How Ukrainian DIY Drones Are Taking Out Russian Tanks | WSJ
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- Since the Ukrainian counteroffensive against Russian forces began, there’s been a dramatic increase in Ukraine’s use of FPV, or first person view drones to execute kamikaze-style attacks on Russian tanks, troop positions and other large-scale weapons. The aim is to operate cheaply and to make the military less dependent on Western weapons.
WSJ gathered dozens of videos from Ukrainian units on the frontlines, to break down how their drone teams execute these attacks on Russia’s military.
0:00 Increase in use of FPV drones
1:01 The kamikaze drone process
2:15 Destroying targets
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It's crazy to see the FPV race quads that I and many others have been building for fun all these years turned into kamikaze weapons. I think everyone in the drone hobby knew it was easily possible, but it's just nuts to see the fuzzy analog DVR footage of it actually hitting targets.
everything is flying can be use for fun, peace and war as well. It's depends by the Human Brain... (sad)
We thank you for your service in developing the technology in its early years.
I’m waiting for the day we see a power loop with a wall ride into a dive hitting a gap in a roof sunlight to hit a tank hiding in a building.
@@ik1mdfthey use it to survive, they donxt have another choice, it's sad in other way and not in using technology the wrong way
What is the best website to check for getting Into drone racing?
Actually using drones makes so much sense. They are like infinitely cheaper than Javelins and just as deadly making them the ultimate weapons.
Javelin are a bit more effective at destroying the tank. Drones can disable tanks easily though.
@@henryg3313 Yes a Javelin works differently than drones and has advantages like being fire and forget (the operator only needs to lock on, launch the missile and its guidance handles the rest) as well as a sophisticated tandem warhead that will defeat Russian explosive reactive armor. That said FPV drones are extremely cheap in comparison to a Javelin and have a ton of versatility.
*It's the first step to full-on Robot Warfare. If we don't do it you can bet RUSSIA and CHINA sure will!!!!*
I believe in the near future they will be banned or something because this is just the beginning and if a count like the US or Russia used thousands of these on a country like Ukraine then war would have been very different. And plus it’s like a mine where you can’t even see it till you’re missing body parts
Drones offer over 1000 fold cost/benefit
1:05 that is chilling…
They way it just cuts out before it directly hit that soldier, it lets your mind to think what was the aftermath
the after math was that he looked like unsuccessful kidney extraction surgery on morticians table
Yeah, that guy was probably blown to bits. I bet his guts were all over that scene. But, he certainly did not feel pain.
I think its okay to hit equipment but hitting personell is cruel. For both sides. I dont think the pilot feels great after diveing that thing into a person...
@@TheDanteVergil All is fair in love and war.
Absolutely legend!
The good part with drones is that they are very good for defense. They can turn any civilian into a warrior.
Civilians shouldn't be warriors. Imagine a country where everyone knows how to make a Molotov Cocktail, a DIY drone or an IED. Doesn't sound safe, does it?
@@JohanManchester no need to imagine, thats Ukraine
@@SirCat07 That makes civilians active targets.
The problem is that civilians don't have the same protection as regular soldiers do, if they use lethal weapons. They're not considered soldiers and won't get prisoner of war privileges. They also loose their civilian privileges in war. Not that the Russians have cared so far though... Either way, it's highly risky as a civilian to take up arms, more so than soldiers. Even though I'm sure many would want to.
@@TheAlienpope Exactly my point. Thanks for clarifying it in a more concise way, as English is not my native language. The government urging the civilians to take up arms is highly irresponsible which has most likely led and will lead to more civilian deaths than otherwise.
The angry birds patch at 0:17 is perfect 😂
They call drone bird
I've never thought, the cheaper it gets, the harder to destroy 😁
Actually, it is the opposite. But the cheaper it gets, the faster it gets replaced. So, yeah. In a certain sense, you are correct.
@@BayuAH In some instances, the cheaper units are more difficult to destroy, simply because the weapons capable of reasonably being used against them just weren't meant for that purpose. Like, a small recon drone. If it's high up, it's going to be extremely difficult to hit it with small arms, so the only thing that can reasonably expect to take it down is probably a missile. But that missile was designed to strike much larger targets like helicopters or manned fixed-wing aircraft, so they're a lot more likely to fail against a smaller, cheaper target.
Welcome to the world of open source technology. Finally it has found its way to the mil tech
Yep, I learned that strategy in playing BAR when players use the Tick rush because their cheap and have too many to destroy fast enough. Really bogs down your weapon systems
zerg rush
What’s really amazing is that these FPV drones without GPS positioning are extremely difficult to fly in manual mode. These pilots must undergo a lot of training to be this precise with them.
You can learn in about 10 hours. I was slow at learning it. So with the motivation of war behide you you proaable could learn that in about 5 or 6 hours.
@@Togher01 You can fly like a beginner in 10 hours and well in 100h. For Mastery you need like 300-1000h from my experience.
@@franciscohompler2773 yes your haven't mastered it it at 10 hours. But if the goal of it is to crash the drone in a tank, 10 hours is probably enough.
@@Togher01 If you want to fly into a tank at 40kmh you need around 100h. I would argue you need accuracy but of course its dependant on the target
These consumer drones really don’t require much learning cost, Lol.
Tanks? Jets? Helicopters? Yeah, they’re all still good and necessary, but this is the future of warfare. A million drone army will be hard to stop! We’re watching the evolution of war, and you can bet our armed forces are paying attention. Thanks WSJ for the great reporting. Well done and of course, Slava Ukraine!
Artillery is still the king of battle. The West keeps convincing themselves that technology will be magic. Afghanistan should have proved this thinking incorrect. But still this magical thinking persists.
The same is said about the converse, though. Iranian-made Shahed-136 drones cost about $20,000 to make, but it takes Ukraine about $500,000 to shoot each one down (they're using NASAMS short- to midrange air defense missiles). Long story short, BOTH sides are having a big drone problem, but Ukraine is unfortunately receiving the brunt of it, due to the Iranian made ones being sent to Russia in huge quantities.
Horses, swords and catapults oh my.
@prim16 Yeah, I have seen so many leopards taken out with these drones. It's crazy. They take out the track and then artillery strike it into oblivion.
Drones are great, but drones carrying nukes are even better, like Poseidon.
it won't be long until there are carrier drones launching smaller recon, strike and kamikaze drones
If you didn’t live under a rock you would know china just released a video of exactly that ☝️ we are doomed
Russia already have that system on bigger drones.
Why though? For range? The current drones Russia is using are easy to move and small
There already is one newly developed by Rheinmetall that can drop 3 FPV drones, the carrier drone itself is acting as an radio relay
The level of creative ingenuity that Ukraine has been using to get the most diverse and utilization out of what they have, is just mind blowing & it motivates me to want to see that happening here in America as well. We could get so much more done if we were willing to operate & tinker with thing's in the way Ukraine has shown they can.
Yeah what a way to scratch a tanks paint wow just wow
@@glifwsattikremlin bot kek
Russians are doing the exact same with drones. Only thing is: Russians have better electronic warfare systems and more drones. Ukraine must negotiate or vanish.
Who do you think is paying for this?!
@@captainamerica3814 the type of creativity is something that can't be bought with money. It's a aspect of their character/society/ingenuity/motivation/and willingness to bend the rules to try & see if new things work. If not, adapt it until it does work . *I wish we could do more of that here in America. That's all.
It's kind of crazy to think that most of the drone footage we see in this video is taken milliseconds before bodies of humans, people that could easily have been our friends, are torn apart into pieces, often still alive enough to feel incredible pain and suffering... I know this is part of war, but I hope we don't lose sight of what is actually going on. I want to be human enough to feel the pain and suffering so many people here feel, without getting so overwhelmed I cannot think rationally. Perhaps impossible, but I'd like to keep trying
Good thing its only orcs!
@@tellyboy17 totally stupid comment. Complex of ''superior race'' ?
@@tellyboy17 I love how you Westerners adopted Nazi ideology of superior race so quickly lol
@@tellyboy17 Ummm.. sweaty, according to a NATO-General (Xi/Xer), the approved terms are "Slavic Untermenschen occupying our rightful Lebensraum", please use this terminology correctly, ok?
@@maxxar92 nope, the correct term is orc and the 4 million cluster shells that have been unlocked will help with the orc infestation of Ukraine
Going to be embarrassing when an Abrams gets taken out by one if these. We're sending about 30 at 10 million each, should have spent 300 million on a drone program.
No Abrams will be taken out, only russia losing with their shovels, almighty Ukraine will win, unless media is lying, which they obviously telling the truth.
Can't fight a war with just drones, that's like having soldiers with no body armor and just more weapons, makes you weak to the weapons you doubled down on
@@mitchellcouchman1444 "only drones" Text book straw man argument. 300 million is a fraction of a larger number. It was a conceptual argument pointing out poor investments.
@@KharlHungus large numbers of drone are already being sent to ukr and have had a massive impact on the war but if they run out of tanks then the effect is dire. Is sending over priced tanks designed for a very different environment a good idea, probably not but these old Abrams don't cost their sticker tag anymore. Saying they are a $10 million dollar tank when as far as I'm aware they are stripped of western era and have already been in service over a decade is America over pricing their contributions. Turbine powered tanks are a bad idea without good logistics and when your opponent can out range you it strains logistics so having a fuel hungry tanks is a bad idea. There's a reason they prefer even old Leos
To my point would more drones be of benefit to Ukr, possibly, what you miss is how many drones are destroyed every day in this war. Turkish drones have been sent and are being lost by the 10s - 100s per day. That's why the Iranian derived 1 use drones are great, they are smaller, as they don't return they have a good range, and are only really detectable at audible and visual range. Making then a very effective drone at low prices.
The $10 million ones are M1A2s which aren't vulnerable to the PG-7 rounds used in most of these videos and are also coming in a year or 2. They'll be getting the M1A1s in the meanwhile which don't have as much protection but still much better than anything the Russians field.
Love the Angry Birds badge 😂 0:17
My first engagement with war drones was when I played C&C Generals Zero Hour with my friends years ago.
At first I didn't even think much about it, but after seeing them in action, it makes more sense now... 🚁🧨
There a SciFi Book where two teams are on a computer game and during their virtual fight, same actions are real on a far away Battlefield.
Young gamers don't know they are piloting real weapons, real troops, on a real War.
the drone killstreak from call of duty modern warfare 2 💀
Battle master tank reporting!
Dude, C&C Generals Zero Hour? That was a gem of a game. It's gotta be one of the best RTS games ever made. So much fun. And to think it came out in 2003 and the factions are US, Islam and China...when you think about it in 2023, 20 years later, those three factions are the ones we see IRL.
Shoutout to all the Japanese OGs for being so ahead of their time in WW2.
Dude… take a second to think about what you wrote. Japanese kamikaze pilots cost lives and caused pain and suffering, and these drones are doing the same. Don’t treat it like a joke or a game.
I was dying when they said they were using tape. Man soldiers are the most creative people ever. When I was in the army that's all we ever did. Because many times we don't have the proper tools or they are going to arrive very late so you learn to improvise a lot with your mind
And probably tape is better than metal brackets or fittings… no radar signature
FPV technologies has evolved so much over the years but can't believe my fave hobby is been used in this manner 😅
1:04 that was brutal
He died a painful death after invading another country 🤷🏽♀️
@@aidancreager4095but that’s a bit overkill don’t you think?
@@joe6398um no
@@joe6398better than slowly bleeding out and dying of a bullet wound. all deaths in war are brutal. there is no easy way out
@@user-hk2vt2ky4k Imagine if that was your brother or your son
In comparation
Leopards 2 also destroyed by drone
And leopards 2 cost are ten times T-90M
Leopard don’t fly like Russia tanks
@@yihuda7459 still the effectiveness now in question.
That is simply not true. There are various estimated costs for both Leopard 2(A4 and A6 variants are given to Ukraine, not the latest most expensive A7) and T90M, but there's no 10 times difference, maybe 2-3 times, depending on the source.
@@shlyupendrenec 1 leopard 2 stock version cost around 11 million USD while T-90M cost around 2.5 M USD.
And thats before inflation. According wikipedia.
Man, just imagine years from now these Russian soldiers will have PTSD like symptoms whenever they hear something similar to drone sounds
"DROOOONNNNEEEEES!"
😂
WSJ will probably never report it, but the Russians are using far more of these FPV drones. Lancet drones take out dozens of tanks/ artillery pieces each month, if not each week. Russian military has improved vastly (at great cost) since February 2022 and is now grinding up the Ukrainian counteroffensive
@@akshittripathi5403Lancet is decent but They're not doing that much more work than fpvs.
Also because of the distance it operates at the lancet has a lower kill percentage.
Because the fpvs operate basically on the front line of they disable a tank it's much harder for the enemy to retrieve the tank and take it safety since follow up strikes happen a lot of the time , while lancet operates at intermediate distances and if they don't take out the equipment on the first hit they're much easier to retrieve and tow to safety .
Good luck from the UK to all Ukrainian FPV pilots ❤ 🇺🇦
Really diy drones work which means more innovators, engineers, designers, and developers needed in Ukraine.
You better get over there then....
Real smart to make videos of it and place it in the open for everyone to learn from.
I live in Bulgaria - yesterday I had an avert for a $10,000 drone that can carry a 15kg payload for 10 hours, its controlled via satellite [presumably starlink]. That means I could load it with bombs, fly it to Ukraine, bomb a tank and fly it home again called a "YANGDA Sky Whale Max Hybrid Heavy Lift Long Endurance VTOL Drone"
The point I am making is - the whole shape of war has changed. Me a random guy with $10k can secretly take part in a war in another country. That is crazy.
That type of drone would be shot down before it can do any type of meaningful damage. The only benefit of these fpv drones is they are small and agile.
It is the same situation like in pearl harbour, a few flies ruined an entire fleets.
3:37 seems like a win even if the drone was destroyed can't imagine that missile is cheap.
A near miss is a collision. A near hit is a miss.
@billyb6001
100 percent correct but people don't understand.
Thanks you sir. I had a argument about this I was out numbered.
Not how it's defined today. Near hit and near miss are synonymous.
@@queueeeee9000 so nearly missing something isn't a near miss?
@@billyb6001 A near-miss is when almost something really bad happens. Say, a truck stalls on a railroad and a train is heading right towards it. At the last second, the truck moves out of the way. That would be a near-miss.
@@queueeeee9000 thats dumb !
0:16 blue angry bird 😂💀
Smart use of diy FPV drones!
For the UI I can tell they are using Betaflight as the OS, also my personal fav.
A professional FPV pilot would be able to jump into an open hatch or window and dodge virtually any missile.
Go Ukraine!
you probably don’t know that Russia is doing the same thing, and in terms of the ratio of drones, forces are not on the side of Ukraine
Yeah I'd fly into the hatch of the tank, fly into the windows of vehicles. You could get 12 pilots flying at the same time. I'd do swarms of drones to maximize the amount of fear.
I was with you until you said that they could Dodge missiles.
@@jerseyshoredroneservices225 FPV drones are too small and maneuverable to be easily hit directly by a missile.
FVP drones are very different from filming drones like DJI and the ones you show on your channel.
Yup, Betaflight. It's crazy to see the FPV race quads that I and many others have been building for fun all these years turned into kamikaze weapons. I think everyone in the drone hobby knew it was easily possible, but it's just nuts to see the fuzzy analog DVR footage of it actually hitting targets. I'm surprised Russia can't easily jam the TX/RX, but maybe their capabilities are truly overblown.
0:17 props to the drone pilot wearing an Angry Birds sticker on his uniform
Now this is a real modern warfare
This reminds me of the drone and c4 trick in Battlefield 2042. I used to think an explosive attached to a regular drone was unrealistic and only worked because of game logic, but it seems it would actually work in real life. Scary to think how gaming tactics could actually work irl. Like with that one Nascaar Driver that used an old race car game trick to boost his speed by driving on the border of the track against the barrier.
Bomb Drone in CoD Warzone is straight reference
Depends on the game. I play stuff that lets you load a Humvee with C4 and absolutely ruin the enemy's day.
I bet some of the new tactics are based off videogames, most military personnel under the age of 30 have played a CoD or Battlefield or any other futuristic War game at least once
Rest assured, it works fine the other way around too,given that NATO tanks are waaay more expensive...
Vladimir: Will you go to victory parade?
Ivan: No tanks
Slava Ukraini!
Russian tanks don’t cost a million dollars - you must be thinking of all the destroyed Leopards!
Is it really penetrate a tank hatch armor?
This is a great idea!
glory to ukraine
Ukraine is always winning
According to western media 😂😂😂😂
Smart!
Improvise,adapt, overcome !! 👍
Necessity is the mother of invention
Can you do a video on the lancet drone I see a lot of videos floating around on the web.
similar to switchblade 600, basically a commercial suicide drone. So more capable than these DIY quad copters but much more expensive
@@chamonix4658 switchblade are more expensive because they have targeting software with AI integrated.
VPN Drones, one DJI drone operator per squad, and mobile electronic warfare equipment are going to be essential in the next full scale war
Красота... мясо разлетается по полям. Держу за вас кулачки из России
Украинское мясо точно так же разлетается от российских дронов, вместе с кулачками. Радоваться этому взаимному убийству славян могут только англосаксы.
Liking these UKR Angry Birds!
It works both ways. Russians also destroying ukrainian tanks with FPV drones.
For people wondering how tanks and armored vehicles will ever overcome the small drone threat, which is a great question, first thing to keep in mind that predicting the future of war is by far the hardest possible thing to do. That’s because the smartest people, of each nation, spend trillions of dollars to best give them the advantage in a future war. Whether it’s Georgia, Indonesia or the United States; top talent spends all its time thinking about this and is a top priority of the government.
Secondly, there is already a solution to this threat coming out of the United States. Lasers. Essentially, lasers have gotten to the point that realistically in a few more years a laser could be installed on every tank, armored vehicle, etc. The lasers are already good to go - just not in mass adoption.
I think the real question is “Will lasers get to the point that anti tank missiles, drones and even tank projectiles themselves could be stopped by them?” They are already on the verge of stopping artillery shells for example.
Lazers have a massive problem, they need super capacitors and a nuclear reactor to run then, they are currently only a naval weapon and I don't see that changing soon
@@mitchellcouchman1444 They are also notorious for being sensitive to jostling/perturbations (plus weather) - Anything military that is going out to large amounts of vehicles has to be ruggedized. Which is easier said than done.
it's not that big of a question. as the drones operate via radio signal, they just have to jam it. a piece of kit as big as a modem could do it effectively. the thing is tho, that it just won't happen. both putin and his generals are braindead and rigid. they can threaten with nukes, but they can't adapt. russia is not prepared for modern warfare, and with all the embargoes i doubt they could get all the chips and semi conductors necessary to mass produce the required equipment, even tho it isn't a big deal at all. putin and the russian military are both had beens.
@@allaci17 you're delusional, they are already jamming many of the drones... Even many of the military ones let alone the little civilian drones
@@mitchellcouchman1444 all the drone attacks in the last few shows how delusional you are. you think the jammed drones did 200M in damages the last few days? :DDDDD EVERY SINGLE vehicle needs a portable transmitter, and there has to be a stationary transmitter every 200-300m in cities to have the border jammed. portable transmitters have a range of about 15m, stationaries about 100-150m.
the angry bird patch 😂 what a cool guy
Honor the heroes of Ukraine. 💙💛 Death to the enemies. SLAVA UKRAINE💪🏻💙💛
Слава героям УКРАИНЫ!💪🏻💙💛
ANGRY BIRDSSSSSSSSSSS 0:16
Ok, now do Russian drones taking out Lepord 2's for balance of perspective
I've yet to see any of this footage on TH-cam/media. You only see one side of the war depending on which continent you live on.
@@ConsensusXred efffect has some videos about it
@@laksamanaagiladitya1093yeah, good channel, found it recently too
might as well play this war in a cs go tournament this is so unreal
Glory to Ukraine!
I knew this was going to happen back when they began making these commercial units. I was worried. Wonder what kind of regulations exist already or may be generated to control this. A hobbyist toy turned weapon of war.
I hear the Ukranians are sending Hornby train sets with grenades attached.
the VR headset costs way more than the drone, but is reusable. that's what i would do. i fly a little dji drone, and am partway into setting up vr.
Until the they start using your radio signal to track your position, we are only at the early stages of drone warfare and they are quickly being nerfed in effectiveness
@@mitchellcouchman1444 meh. it's only wifi, and doesn't reach far - at least on mine, and most of the commercial ones. that's why the ukes have to guide it from so close to the target. by the time the find it, it will be over by then. you apparently have no experience with commercial drones.
@@skip123davis if its short range that further creates issues with use and WiFi is traceable like all forms of signals and jammable which many are experiencing, without a reasonable range their use is very limited
SLAVA UKRAINE 🇺🇦
The explosion plus the lithium polymer definitely boosted the explosion
Someone please answer why some drones are harder to detect bc if their picture quality. Analog vs digital? Please help
I think they’re harder to detect because of the communications signal being harder to intercept, not because of the image quality.
I'm sure Russia appreciates this. It's very detailed. Thanks WSJ!
It's like showing to the military how to reload your gun. They already see everything the same + manuals + shared personal experience notes + shared software. This video is useless for them, because they already know all that and used all of that.
0:17 best shoulder sleave patch ever.
Ooo..koochapeee… that’s what the blue bird say..
War...icon of innovation.
*Now report on the actual facts of the ground campaign!*
How do you cope that Russia is no longer a superpower? Ukraine is gonna leave Russia toothless
I'm going to call it, next 5 years we're going to see the US Military doing a 'hand held drone operator' MOS. The ability to have a squad mate pop up a drone, to scout ahead in real time, and get a birds eye view of enemy fortifications before a push is going to be insane. Imagine you're working on some offensive, and you have direct callout on radio of a $50 dollar drone telling you where the enemy is, how many of them, blah blah blah. Reaper drones no longer need to play surveillance for operations, and can purely build into support. Squad level tactics can even use grenade drones to drop explosives on enemies, or even smokes to disrupt their vision.
When I enlist in the US army next week. It's going to be the #1 thing I'm interested in if it becomes a thing. I'll reclass in an instant if I can do that kind of stuff.
That drone would not be $50 by the time US Military gets it. Probably $50k each
"Reclass in an instant" ... good luck with that.
Good job ! Glory to Ukrainian military forces!
They have an Angry Birds unit patch! Love it!
Mr Steele would hit every target and every tiny gap
Also Ukraine is good at making jet-sky style drones to hit the ships and any objects on water, probably the first country ever to use such devices… Brave people, the situation they are in right now, will make them stronger and stronger, eventually Ukraine will be the main firepower of NATO!
Leopard tanks getting reck also😅
Go on Ukrainians!
0:16 that angry bird patch
Apparently we are not many years off submarine drones, which may make large submarines outdated.
submarine drone that could target sub are a deadly threat but good like finding an enemy sub in the first place in the very vast ocean also it's will be probably hard building sub that goes under water cause of you have to factor in the water pressure and you need to build a sub that is smaller and compact that the enemy sonar couldn't detect but if someone manage to build this kind of drone sub and manage to find ways to locate enemy submarines nuclear submarines would be in potential danger
Destroying an armored vehicle by means of a drone and sinking an attack or missile submarine by drone are different things. Quite possibly for the United States losing a submarine due to a drone attack or not would mean a declaration of war, and going to war with the United States is something that everyone would avoid.
Drone attack is fun, like playing a game with a controller from your room. I would like to join the drone team if I ever go to war.
Same because it would be pretty safe as your far away from the enemy. But I feel it would be pretty demoralizing to watch your drone fly into human beings.
BADASS!!!!
God bless dji drones
🎉GLORY to ukraine and the heroes of Ukraine!! 🇺🇦❤🇯🇲!!🎉
🟦🟨Awesome to watch. Victory to Ukraine! 🔵🟡
Russia is doing the exact same, but slava nograin🇺🇦🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️
To the last Ukrainian! (not long left)
don't forget that KI will in the future will really boost the deadliness of the drones. Right now every drone needs a pilot. What if swarms of them operate on its own. Makes me shiver.
That's "AI" for non Denglisch speakers
Imagine a huge swarm of drones - such as used for celebratory light show displays - being loaded up with explosives and controlled by the same sort of software to coordinate their attack.
swarm robotics, yes this is something militaries around the world have been exploring for a few decades now. Sci-Fi turned reality.
EMP’s will be a lot more popular
@@xubious you are watching too much sci fi
Same the other way around... Lancet drones vs. Leopard tanks...
Drones provide massive cost / benefit over tanks and even artillery. I'm talking well over 1,000 fold cost / benefit over say a 4 million dollar tanks depending on the drone type and method of deployment. i.e. kamikaze vs anti tank grenade dropper. Lesser cost / benefit advantage over artillery, however still significant over a 2 million dollar Howitzer standard piece.
You can't fight a war with these, just like you can't just win a war with artillery, otherwise why are both sides still using tanks? Most tanks are lost to commercial drones or artillery though.
@@mitchellcouchman1444 Artillery, mines, and atgms you mean. Drone kills on tanks are a small fraction of these others.
They do not outperform arty, arty is still the leading cause of death and injury
Notwithstanding that, the cost/benefit for drones case is immense. Ultimately drones could outperform arty as kill all machines. They just have to locate arty and destroy them. As long as they are significantly cheaper, drones will ultimately outperform all battlefield vehicles, except perhaps anti air. However head to head pitted against each other, drones still outperform arty. It would come down to tactics. You just need a drone that can detect and target arty with a large enough warhead. 1000 drones will be cheaper than 1,000 arty pieces. If they both start at the same time against the enemy, drones will win, because they have greater range, so the drones will detect arty, well ahead of arty detecting and destroying drone forces. Yes arty have a greater firing rate and can cause more destruction, however they have to get closer to their target first and in a one on one race, all else being equal, drones have the advantage over arty. i.e. anti arty drones appropriately deployed. When AI vision becomes standard for drones ( as available commercially ), arty will have nowhere to hide. The AI vision tech is already there, but it's being held back. The nature of war will change and arty wont be able to get close to targets with sufficient drones in place to defend against attack. They just need drones specifically designed for arty. Not only that however, once the payload capacity and firing rate of drones is improved, it will be game over for anything on the ground. We are just seeing the beginning of this type of warfare. Anyway my point was with regard to cost/benefit of drones vs tanks and arty and that aspect is very clear.
@@JoeyBlogs007 they are not currently out performing arty in the future im sure but not rn
Great presentation
The "Angry Birds"patch on the uniform sleeve!😂
I dont remember the exact number but I read that Russia already invests something like $3 billion in drone manufacturing and is currently building a factory in Russia to mass produce the iranian Shahed drones.
Ukraine recently announced to invest around $1.08 billion into drones. Ukraine is a poor country but I think they still have to prioritize this issue. Im worried $1 billion isnt enough. Id like to see Ukraine invest at least as much as Russia into drones. Drones will be a major factor in this war and the side with more and better drones will have an advantage.
And to all Ukraine supporters:
Prioritize donating to groups and units that focuse on drones. Thats what I do. Yes humanitarian aid and conventional weapons etc are important too but drones are in my opinion the most important issue in this war.
How about we have a competition that brings the best of Western minds to see who can build the best / most cost-effective military drone, with the winners getting a large award funded by donations, with people like Star Wars actor Mark Hamill and others leading the effort.
Russia converted an old mall into assembly plant for drones. They are using 100s of kamikaze drones per day. Many other plants are operating. Russian drone production and innovation is huge.
Meanwhile western media : "ukranian" lancets are also expertly taking out "Russian" leopard2 tanks. 😂😂😂
Sticking to the current video though: yes, those DIY drones with small grenades are ABSOLUTELY penetrating and destroying that HRS armor on those tanks.
I mean, this war seems very much to be a trial and error by offensive forces. Where attrition or surprise allows movement in certain areas. Surprise is what allowed the initial Russian advances, so too the Kharkiv counteroffensive by Ukraine. Simultaneously, attrition led to Russian victories at Severnodonestk and Soledar, and in Ukraines case taking back Kherson. What these drones seem to do, and we do have visual evidence for this, is make it to where tanks can not only be spotted and attacked by kamikaze drones, but gain visual or laser identification for other drones in the air, like lanclets do, or give artillery the means to target them. Like how Russia's armored columns last winter were halted in Vuhledar and Kreminna, and so too Ukranian columns in the south. So like, pointing out an "oooo, gotcha" to the use of similar Russian advancements in this field begets the effective use these drones have time and time again proven they have against both sides offensive forces. Whether it be for distraction, getting lucky hits in, or overwhelming the force that's attacking with too much at once, let alone the damage these weapons do to infantry, these drones have proven their effectiveness, and use, so far, in spite of their small warhead capacity. What will be interesting will be how one side, or the other, overcomes this new breed of weapon. Or, perhaps, this is just a sign of technology/use of technology outpacing tactics and weapons to break a stalemate. Akin to WW1, in a way.
@@josephhernandez5386 you need to READ the comment carefully and what it pointed to CAREFULLY before typing this looong diatribe.
Also, vuhledar was halted but the equipment not destroyed and later recovered (judging by the full video and bit edited down clip spread by ukr mod).
Kreminna offensive is difficult for armour because of the vast forest belt, and ground troops having perfect cover for air recon. It's not "haulted" . In fact RF pushed back any and all ukr offensive in that area to its initial position and has gained ground in the forest regions in recent months.
RF didn't have any proper air defence (short and medium) in place in South and had vast gaps in radar coverage last year. A problem they have since solved and their EW equipment has been successfully jamming and intercepting smart bombs, drones and missiles so much so that even western analysts and generals have begun whining about how ineffective their weapons have become against RF EW. Russian air defences regularly shoot down ukr drones venturing too far into the frontline..... Yes you hear news of ukr sending drones into Russian territory for PR and distraction from their astronomical losses on frontlines, but how often are those drones ACTUALLY successful???? Not many ..... Once in a week or 2 weeks maybe. Meanwhile RF drones and missiles regularly strike all the way to the lviv region.
Drones have changed the battlefield for sure, especially immediate frontline surveillance against the infantry but the roots of warfare tactics still hold.....trench and artillery warfare still reigns supreme as is evident, air superiority still matters and decent air defence is still important. Drones have merely augmented these aspects and added to their effectiveness.
Hopefully this sad ordeal ends before it gets too hot!
The shells that hit tanks dont cost a lot. Drones with enough power to carry c4 or rpg round or HE are about $1000 actually Plus batteries. Plus parts plus the charge and the payload attachment gear
Stand strong, 🇺🇦Ukraine❤
Stop supporting Nazis. 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺
@@nastynas9610 It really sucks when a fascist regime invades a neighbor and kills civilians without any reason.
@@nastynas9610 Russia started this war so those who value freedom should be supporting Ukraine and hoping to see Russia decisively beaten.
I can only imagine how much motivation I would have if a foreign country wanted to take land on which my family members are buried, as well as everything they are doing to my country and its citizens.
Gott love the trickster reporting here.
As if Russia isnt doing the same thing... except with kills on major Euro-designed elite Leopards....
Yeah its a misleading report.
When in position, on site, russian tanks have a camo net above them and many drones explode in that net, with little or no damage for the tank.
Some 'beautiful explosion' vidéos are failed attacks.
Asymmetrical warfare, good.😊
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Dam! That would hurt.
You are forgetting that Russia has also been using drones against expensive western equipment given to Ukraine. unlike Ukraine Russia makes its own arms
LOL. Russia begged Iran to provide drones. 🤡
@@chas721I don't remember any Russian politicians groveling foreign leaders unlike Zeleboba.
@@Jaqen_Hghar Shoigu is currently in North Korea asking Dear Leader for help. Nothing like begging for ammunition that has been stored in some mountain for the past fifty years.
@@chas721russia has their own developed lancet kamikaze drones
@@chas721 "Russia is asking for help"
Can't provide any proof. Certified clown moment. 🤡 Just like West🤮ern politicians.
what about leopards? how much do they cost?
Can you google it for us?
Ma mind was blowing from that information
This is the Drone War!
The Russians are now the ones with the most effective FPV drones. The Lancet 3 these Ukrainian drones just look puny and are unlikely to do any major damage to a tank.
lancet drones are specifically made so it won't destroy it's target but damage it
@@unskilled822what is bro sayin 💀💀💀
@@lukegilardini578 have you ever heard the concept "a wounded soldier brings more trouble than a dead one"?
drone impact to the ribcage! ouch!
He'll feel that in the morning.
@@Sdakouls3 I don’t think he’s feeling anything now
I just bought myself my own drone to practice .
Just in case for the future.
You can bet the u s government is practicing and training you should too
Ukraine is winning.