Beyond just Pac, the South and the West always rode together and supported each other. There were a lot of connections. Master P lived in Richmond at some point and had family there. Spice 1 was born in Texas and had family here. E40 went to school in Grambling. DOC connected with Dre early. Plus the fact that alot of Bay and South artist were all signed with Jive. (other labels weren't really feeling em)
@@dapog it means nothing it's people from the south all over the us same with people from the west and the Midwest look at luda for prime example he's Midwest
@@theetruth8626 I know there's ppl from the south all over the US. Even Midwest ppl privates from the south. My point was alot of early rap artists from the West Coast had direct ties to the south and they often were also label mates. It created a bond between the regions and their music. Even Midwest ppl originated from the south. Cities like Chicago n Cleveland showed love to the south as well. The point of my comment was to help explain why the South had so much love for Tupac.
@@thetunkmaster lmao stop it thats why u have rappers like polo g and youngboy trying to imulate PAC just like 50 cent and the game did before🙅💯🔥 PAC still has major influence imagine rn
No matter where u from u felt his words. No matter how big Pac got he never forgot the streets and he was really puttin people on game through his music. His music is timeless cause it's real life. I'm from G.A. and all my homies to this day do not listen to anybody Pac didn't like.
Pac was too real to rate JayZ. Pac wasn’t just about talent. Dude was next level… There’s a reason Pac is still remembered this deeply Because he spoke to peoples hearts He spoke on real issues He put his image and life on the line Biggy and Jay had the talent but not the heart Not the character Not the conviction Not the vision Not the charisma Not the crossover talent to movies and beyond Pac was on another level People think Pac couldn’t easily play with words like Jay or Big Pac wanted people to hear exactly what he meant No metaphors and bs Straight to the gut
@deadre dadon That's what most people dont understand. Talent gets you in, and business savy keeps you there. It's a reason why only a select few become moguls in the industry.
A lot of us pick sides in the south the east was very negative about what was real hip hop but the west embrace us I know my whole neighborhood was on that bad boy killer stuff just cause pac said it
What’s dope is that song blew up in NYC and people in NY loved Pimps part the most even though we didn’t understand everything he was saying and after that we started checking for UGK and it put a lot of money in their pockets.
@@theetruth8626cap he went gold and then platinum. Boosie is a god in the south and I don’t even think he ever went gold and platinum. The Midwest and south was on pac from day one seen it with my own eyes
Y'all wasn't bumping his earlier albums look at his records sells y'all started bumping him when he started screaming thuglife and y'all want to be thugs even if u didn't live that life
@@theetruth8626What that mean? Man everybody was bumping I get around!! Record sales ain't the point!! Its percentages!! And Tupac wasn't as big as the time. Besides Thug life was probably his best album so you make no sense!!😅😅
@@itspokernotpitypat4619record sales is the point. That's the only thing that proves the facts See y'all wanna run around all the facts to sell your version.
Which was because pac didn’t like big and jay let big diss pac on his record which still biggie is a grown Man U can’t hold jay accountable for what biggie said onna record
People just don’t realize the power 2pac had. No one has reached that height. Rappers, fans, gangsters, dboyz. Soldiers man… powerful dude! His voice carried power and he had all our attention
Lol jay-z career barely started as what we know it at an older age than when Pac died. Thats the difference. Jay needed 25 more years in the game to come close to Pac's impact.
Jay-Z was out in 1989 but yea you're right..he didn't really take off until 96. He was on a bunch of remixes and guest appearances before that. He was on Hi Five "she playing hard to get" (ski remix), Big L first album, changing faces and so many more other artist music before reasonable doubt came out. Pac knew who Jay-Z was and he mentioned Jay being on Jaz "Hawaiian Sophie" video.
Ok Check the numbers Pac needed to create drama with an entire city before he got hot. Alot of yall so called fans didn’t even want to hear his first album since we wanna talk about who started where. Pac was featured in a movie and his music couldn’t even make the soundtrack lol
There wasn't a beef.... how do you beef with someone you've never met? The only reason Jays name came out of Pacs mouth is because of Jays friendship with Big "guilty by association".
I love the respect SHORT DOG have by not cursing on CLUB SHAY ! And we know SHORT use the language . Big ups became DAME DASH came on and Cursing like he was at home ! Smh
Imagine being a grown man with that much admiration and loyalty for another man that you don't know. Reminds me of 95 percent of people nowadays when it comes to athletes, rappers etc. Pathetic. People have more love for these characters /personalities than their own real family smh. What it screams is I don't have a father or at least one I'm proud of. Disgusting!
Wasnt EAST/West Pac said that MULTIPLE times on record and interviews and even had A One Nation album with people from the east coast and the Outlawz from the east cost that was all a media narrative
Was 2pac better than Jay Z? Yes imo! For the people who saying Jay Z wouldn’t be Jay z if 2pac was alive, are fooling themselves. Jay still can rap and has the body of work. If he would have beef with 2pac and lost, he still would have been successful. He lost to Nas and he still more successful than Nas. Jay was bound to make it. I honestly feel like his popularity boosted more when he hook up with the beehive aka Beyoncé. Her fans became his fans and it was nothing stopping him after that!
I wouldn't say he lost to Nas. He dropped a diss so cold that his mom made his apologize for it! Not to mention that Jay career took off even further after Ether meanwhile Nas and his career went on a rapid decline.
The more I hear all these stories about rappers I grew up respecting the more I realize what a bunch of clowns they were. Going to let another man who isn't your blood dictate who you do business with and then have the nerve and audacity to go do business with that very same person anyway!
What's wild is if C was alive now, he may have changed his thoughts. Bun B and Talib Kweli are homies. Don't tell me he wouldn't fux with Kweli in 2022.....
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Mann your interviews the best
I’m not and I’m from the south pac brought his problems if they shot him ride or be quiet
The whole south was riding wit 2pac facts
The Hot Boyz was JayZ fans
@@LilSuperOG No Limit bit Tupacs entire style
And West too
@@MrRahson Thats cap
@@MrRahson y'all low key hated Pac
Thats how we felt!we didn’t want to mess with nobody Pac didn’t want to mess with 😂😂
People so in love with PAC they couldn’t see his mistakes and flaws
Y'all are lgbtq followers that's why Y'all bow down to pac that much 🤣🤣
@@sinceremarks8529 which is why they the most delusional fruitcakes
Pac was like your homie from next door
That's how "yall" felt!
Everyone in Cali still loves Tupac and hold it down for him 💯
Everyone everywhere lol
Beyond just Pac, the South and the West always rode together and supported each other. There were a lot of connections. Master P lived in Richmond at some point and had family there. Spice 1 was born in Texas and had family here. E40 went to school in Grambling. DOC connected with Dre early. Plus the fact that alot of Bay and South artist were all signed with Jive. (other labels weren't really feeling em)
Facts & most of the people from the west were born in the south or have relatives down south & vice versa
That's means nothing
@@theetruth8626 what?
@@dapog it means nothing it's people from the south all over the us same with people from the west and the Midwest look at luda for prime example he's Midwest
@@theetruth8626 I know there's ppl from the south all over the US. Even Midwest ppl privates from the south. My point was alot of early rap artists from the West Coast had direct ties to the south and they often were also label mates. It created a bond between the regions and their music. Even Midwest ppl originated from the south. Cities like Chicago n Cleveland showed love to the south as well. The point of my comment was to help explain why the South had so much love for Tupac.
It shows how much influence 2pac had over everybody
Not everybody, just some people who can't think for themselves.
@@thetunkmaster lmao stop it thats why u have rappers like polo g and youngboy trying to imulate PAC just like 50 cent and the game did before🙅💯🔥 PAC still has major influence imagine rn
Over Texans maybe a lot of People seen pac as he was.
@@aa-jx5zz How did 50 and Game imulate pac when they were really in the street life and pac simply rapped about it. Why because they got shot?
@@akeemMagic01 really in the streets just stop right there everyone ol boy was a male stripper💯😆
The South was riding with Pac. Big Pimpin helped Jay-Z in the South.
Facts
Facts 💯
And it helped UGK nationally
Facts
Big time, and Jay knew that!
No matter where u from u felt his words. No matter how big Pac got he never forgot the streets and he was really puttin people on game through his music. His music is timeless cause it's real life. I'm from G.A. and all my homies to this day do not listen to anybody Pac didn't like.
For those who don't know, the chain Short is wearing is a *Oak Tree* for *Oakland*
RIP 2PAC
F 2pac
@Timmy Ggz Tv your mama go drilled by Pac and swallowed
@@rigger49er yeah that was trash lol we still doing ya mama jokes?
@@javonbatiste5984 mama jokes never go out of style
@@rigger49er Smh so in love with PAC u bring out a corny yo mama joke
2pac forever!
Pac was too real to rate JayZ.
Pac wasn’t just about talent.
Dude was next level…
There’s a reason Pac is still remembered this deeply
Because he spoke to peoples hearts
He spoke on real issues
He put his image and life on the line
Biggy and Jay had the talent but not the heart
Not the character
Not the conviction
Not the vision
Not the charisma
Not the crossover talent to movies and beyond
Pac was on another level
People think Pac couldn’t easily play with words like Jay or Big
Pac wanted people to hear exactly what he meant
No metaphors and bs
Straight to the gut
Pac was everything feminine as fraud 🤣💯
@Timmy Ggz Tvyou made a comment saying rest in peace Tupac can't play both sides Tommy
Well stated
@deadre dadon That's what most people dont understand. Talent gets you in, and business savy keeps you there. It's a reason why only a select few become moguls in the industry.
@Timmy Ggz Tv Go outside get some fresh air
All of us from the south was rocking Pac all day!!!
A lot of us pick sides in the south the east was very negative about what was real hip hop but the west embrace us I know my whole neighborhood was on that bad boy killer stuff just cause pac said it
Right. But in many ways, it was NY against everybody else so they deserved the pushback.
This ain't true the West was hating too. It's documented y'all just got a complex with NY
Too $hort keeping it classy
Texas was riding with Pac, and we always had our own motion.
What’s dope is that song blew up in NYC and people in NY loved Pimps part the most even though we didn’t understand everything he was saying and after that we started checking for UGK and it put a lot of money in their pockets.
No
Im from tha south we knew what he was sayn iout tha gate
I'm from Brooklyn that's cap.
Long Live Pac
PAC is the GOAT rapper. Impacted the genre like non other.
That's your opinion. Your entitled to it. But that's certainly not factual.
@@randallsimon585 it’s facts
@@Cochise313 then you obviously don't know the definition or difference between fact and opinion.🤷🏾♂️
@@randallsimon585 it’s facts
@@Cochise313 it's a fact that you don't know what an opinion is🤦🏾♂️
People on the west coast must not know Houston love 'Pac so much we was only rocking with 'Pac and whoever was on his side during that time period
Stop lying look at Pac earlier albums sells the south wasn't buying his albums until later when all the b.s start happening
@@theetruth8626cap he went gold and then platinum. Boosie is a god in the south and I don’t even think he ever went gold and platinum. The Midwest and south was on pac from day one seen it with my own eyes
Pac was a legend in the south and we was loyal to Pac..
Y'all wasn't bumping his earlier albums look at his records sells y'all started bumping him when he started screaming thuglife and y'all want to be thugs even if u didn't live that life
@@theetruth8626 I can’t speak for everyone else but I been down since digital underground..
Till this day move to Texas and I Stay hearing people playing pac in their cars
@@theetruth8626What that mean? Man everybody was bumping I get around!! Record sales ain't the point!! Its percentages!! And Tupac wasn't as big as the time. Besides Thug life was probably his best album so you make no sense!!😅😅
@@itspokernotpitypat4619record sales is the point. That's the only thing that proves the facts See y'all wanna run around all the facts to sell your version.
Tupac didn't like Jay-Z
@deadre dadon Bruh you on EVERY comment 😂😂😂😂
Pac was hating
Pac didn't like JZ because he was riding with his boy Biggie and he was dissing back at Pac
@@theetruth8626 what did he say?
@@joejett5084 listen to Brooklyn finest on reasonable doubt
Dope interview
That’s how it went. Everybody PAC ain’t like we ain’t like.
‘Cause y’all can’t think for yourselves lol
But Pac didn’t like Jay.
Which was because pac didn’t like big and jay let big diss pac on his record which still biggie is a grown Man U can’t hold jay accountable for what biggie said onna record
@Joe R
So what Jay Z did his thang
F pac.
Blue rags anyway
Yea it really ended up hurting jays career that Pac didn't like him.... Lmao
And some people didn't like Pac so what
The fact that the candles were so close to the Jordan's had me nervous the whole time.
Say UNK get a interview with Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf.. Gulfport Mississippi in the HOUSE!!
Facts 💯
So we gonna just pretend that the thumbnail is PimpC and not big boi from outkast smh
But why is there a pic of Big Boi from OutKast in the thumbnail😂😂
Production gotta do better
Frfr
How you dislike someone because you think they not cool with a person you never even met?!
Man what?! 💀😂😂😂
He didnt just think he didnt like him...he specifically said F**K JAY-Z clearly on record!!!
People just don’t realize the power 2pac had. No one has reached that height. Rappers, fans, gangsters, dboyz. Soldiers man… powerful dude! His voice carried power and he had all our attention
R U STILL DOWN???
@deadre dadon …… 🌽 🌽 🌽
I will always love him.
Riding Dirty better than any album that Jay Z made
Big Boi from outkast on thumbnail old heads always get rappers mixed up sad
This crazy😂
The South & The West always rode with each other. I love Jay & Pac though
Can we get Bun B on here?
Respect 2 the south
For standing with Tupac
Lol jay-z career barely started as what we know it at an older age than when Pac died. Thats the difference. Jay needed 25 more years in the game to come close to Pac's impact.
Well we know who won in the end 🤷🏾♂️
@@TheNyion912 bro 🖕🏽
@@TheNyion912 Won what?lol Cause Legacy wise it aint CLOSE🤷🏾♂️
Jay-Z was out in 1989 but yea you're right..he didn't really take off until 96. He was on a bunch of remixes and guest appearances before that. He was on Hi Five "she playing hard to get" (ski remix), Big L first album, changing faces and so many more other artist music before reasonable doubt came out. Pac knew who Jay-Z was and he mentioned Jay being on Jaz "Hawaiian Sophie" video.
Ok
Check the numbers
Pac needed to create drama with an entire city before he got hot.
Alot of yall so called fans didn’t even want to hear his first album since we wanna talk about who started where.
Pac was featured in a movie and his music couldn’t even make the soundtrack lol
Is Timmy Dangs still open?
I think most real ones was on Pac's side. I'd like for Short to explain those details of the JayZ and Pac beef
There wasn't a beef.... how do you beef with someone you've never met? The only reason Jays name came out of Pacs mouth is because of Jays friendship with Big "guilty by association".
@@aikenstodd Listen to the beginning Skit in Makaveli
@@TheLakers81 having words and having beef are two completely things
Pac dissed Jay because of his Biggie affiliation. That’s all. It wasn’t deep.
Bomb First -2pac go listen
It was all good just a week ago 🔥
I love the respect SHORT DOG have by not cursing on CLUB SHAY ! And we know SHORT use the language . Big ups became DAME DASH came on and Cursing like he was at home ! Smh
He still ends up cursing during the end of the interview probably once the drink started kicking in
Adults curse
Short-dawg speaking facts mayne
Why do they have big boi from outkast in the thumbnail
I don't think that's big boi.. look like dude from D 12 to me.but I said same thing at 1st
@@OGKUSHOGKUSH That's Big Boi. And the shirt says Big Boi
Imagine being a grown man with that much admiration and loyalty for another man that you don't know. Reminds me of 95 percent of people nowadays when it comes to athletes, rappers etc. Pathetic. People have more love for these characters /personalities than their own real family smh. What it screams is I don't have a father or at least one I'm proud of. Disgusting!
Your analysis of the situation is way off. Pac was a revolutionary with a panther mentality so people heard his words and followed him as such.
It screams loyalty something you probably don't know about...
@Joe R what dawg? You make no sense you sound feminine
Just a question, whats your religion?
@@rigger49er
He died kicking a Crip
Who rocked his snot box.
That's love
Short dogs in the house... 510 ❤
I didn't like the entire East coast when I was a kid because 2Pac LOL.
Why is big boi in the thumbnail 😂😂
He didn’t
South Sideeeee
Who is that in the middle?
That's real. Buck Gazeeeey
I have heard sooo many sides to that big pimping story
Yo big brother they can't touch you with the interviews 💯
_Ugh! Now, whatcha'll know about them Texas boys_ ?
2Pac the King
Funny thing is Pac was born in NY. All that east west shhh was because of Suge
No because fake pac was 🐑
Wasnt EAST/West Pac said that MULTIPLE times on record and interviews and even had A One Nation album with people from the east coast and the Outlawz from the east cost that was all a media narrative
TUPAC RIFA SIEMPRE
One love ❤
Pac should've never messed with a crip to begin with 💯
The South is still riding for Pac 🫡
Anybody that thinks jay z is better than 2pac Need a slap
The name “club Shay Shay” still don’t sit right with me me lol but it’s always some interesting content on here!
That was 👍🏾
bring bun b!
Did he even know Pac
Bro watch the video
Was 2pac better than Jay Z? Yes imo! For the people who saying Jay Z wouldn’t be Jay z if 2pac was alive, are fooling themselves. Jay still can rap and has the body of work. If he would have beef with 2pac and lost, he still would have been successful. He lost to Nas and he still more successful than Nas. Jay was bound to make it. I honestly feel like his popularity boosted more when he hook up with the beehive aka Beyoncé. Her fans became his fans and it was nothing stopping him after that!
Jay z was already on top before beyonce😭
@@rapartist9309 💯
@@rapartist9309 I never said he wasn’t on top. Reading is fundamental. I CLEARLY said it boosted his popularity and gain him more fans.
I think after big passing is when he ascended to the top. But that's just my opinion.
I wouldn't say he lost to Nas. He dropped a diss so cold that his mom made his apologize for it! Not to mention that Jay career took off even further after Ether meanwhile Nas and his career went on a rapid decline.
MAKAVELI the DON … OUTLAWZ
Ether exposed him for all time
The more I hear all these stories about rappers I grew up respecting the more I realize what a bunch of clowns they were. Going to let another man who isn't your blood dictate who you do business with and then have the nerve and audacity to go do business with that very same person anyway!
Big boi?
❤❤❤❤❤❤
I just came to the comments just to see people hate on Jay-Z 😂. Bc it's funny.
Jay-Z always gonna do it his way that's why he on the level he at now ...y'all can keep playing the good guy game
Jay found balance though. He was half/half
Dinner with Pac
What's wild is if C was alive now, he may have changed his thoughts. Bun B and Talib Kweli are homies. Don't tell me he wouldn't fux with Kweli in 2022.....
2:30 suspect behavior
This is another reason why 2pac was more respected than piggy
Lol Thts not what bun said so too short buddy u shld ask this to be deleted or talk to bun asap lol
Bun b did say that
Made JZ come with a come with another verse
no one cared about nyc rap outside of the east coast. Snoop/Tupac/Dre were more popular across country.
This is old.
2pac’s way of thinking was very immature.
He was young what you expected? If he was alive he would have probably squashed all that bs.
Yes. Very. The most influential rapper ever. Good and bad. I'd say more bad than good. Sad to say.
Let's Go, Brandon shows your level of maturity 🤣🤣
👍🏾
If pac ain't like ya then I don't like ya
Yes that really hurt jays career. I dont know how Jay ever got past that.😂🤣😂🤣🤣 He probably didn't go on to be successful at all.😭😭😭😭😭
Sounds silly af
Jay Z is a fake gangsta
Jay is a corny sellout
Why is Big Boi in the thumbnail.. 🤨 Highly doubt it was Uncle Shay’s fault though. 😂