Yes!👏😂 Kris yes please do more of this style of comedic-snarky-truth product reviews. Loving it! And I personally hate the concept of electronic device paywalls, i.e. like my duke 890r upgrades. F#*k them! ;)
If this Cardo unit works like a satellite phone in range, then by all means charge people a subscription. But yeah, you wont fool us Cardo with your new subscraption service.
If , like me , you have no sound to your helmet , whatever the source , apart from the engine , what would be the best kit to get and how expensive would that be please ? Leave snarky out ! I would like to hear a Satnav , my pillion , my phone and , if the price was reasonable , a nearby friend .
Fodsports fx6 is a good budget set £65 U.K. does all that. That’ll link to one rider or pillion. Links to phone, good voice recognition for text, calls etc. Great battery too
@@MotoJournoKris we’re in the realm of malinformation ( true, but causes inconvenience to the authority ) now. They say this with mis & disinformation needs to be cleansed from the internet. Since the pandemic the government has revealed itself as the biggest purveyor of this. Look forward to them cancelling censoring themselves off the internet.
Why buy a subscription service if it works out more expensive. What happens if you have a subscription and the unit fails? Do you get a new one? This just does not make sense. Just go with some other brand. Buy a product that has all the features you need. I'm sure Cardo will be backtracking this idea from what I've seen so far on this subject. The latest Cardo comms kit will hang on your every word... but only if you stump for a subscription Intercom trailblazers Cardo are introducing the first subscription-based helmet comms system in a step that’s already proving controversial. Their new unit is called the Packtalk Custom and has the same engine as the existing Packtalk Neo, but you’ll need to pay an annual or monthly subscription if you want it to do everything a Packtalk Neo does. The Packtalk Custom has downgraded speakers, and costs £68 less than the Neo. So far, so normal. The big difference is Cardo has switched off a bunch of the Neo’s features when creating the Packtalk Custom. And if people want to switch those features back on it’ll cost them an extra annual or monthly subscription. In reality, by the time you’ve paid for six months you’ll have paid as much as an annual sub would have cost. So for £254 you get a Mesh-only intercom that will only use its Bluetooth capability to connect to your phone. Pay for a Silver subscription package and you’ll get to share your music with another Cardo’d-up rider, a selection of audio profiles and a speed dial function that lets you easily call your favourite people. That’ll cost another €2.99 a month, or €19.99 for the year. Upgrading to a Gold sub opens up the Bluetooth intercom function, which is the only way to hook up with non-Cardo riders. You’ll also now be able to connect two phones to your comms unit. This sub will be €4.99 a month or €29.99 for the year. The top package, Platinum, gives people what Cardo describes as “all the bells and whistles”. This means you’ll get the Cardo Natural Voice function that makes the unit respond to your voice commands, as well as a battery-saving Eco mode. For that, you’ll be stumping an extra €6.99 a month or €39.99 for the year. The Gold and Platinum packs also include all the features from the lower-tier packages. At current prices and Euro-pound exchange rates buying a Packtalk Custom and two annual Platinum subscriptions would add up to £324. As things stand, for £322 you could buy the Neo with all the features unlocked and also have the superior JBL speakers. The move to a subs model echoes what’s happening elsewhere in the car and motorcycle industries and Cardo say it has “unlocked the power of personalisation”. Cardo chief executive officer Alon Lumbroso is quoted in the release as saying: “We’re extremely proud to continue to drive the industry forward with new trailblazing innovations and industry-firsts like the Packtalk Custom.” The response on social media to Cardo’s announcement, however, suggests others in the industry may wish to take stock before heading off down the trail blazed by Cardo. Here at Sportsbikeshop we know from experience with In&Motion airbags how much hostility there is among many riders towards the idea of paying for tech on a subscription basis - and it seems Cardo are copping some flak of their own now. Cardo posted a video on their Facebook page, explaining the essentials of the Packtalk Custom on Friday 10 March, and inviting questions about it. The 11 responses in the first six hours were overwhelmingly negative about the subs idea. One response gives a fair flavour of the backlash: “While I love my Cardo, I'll move to another com platform rather than be held hostage with a subscription.” We guess only time will tell whether Cardo have played a blinder or made a bit of a blunder. By Tony Hoare Sportsbike shop 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 Check out spicy110 th-cam.com/video/q1ZUZPRbVIg/w-d-xo.html
I'd rather just pull over and wait for my partner to catch up. It's free to yell at someone. Another thing, we'll be drinking Malk in the future. Nothing as fancy as cockroach milk.
It's disappointing to see this but it seems to be the way of the future. Maybe this product is sent out to convince you to spend more on the expensive model? It still stinks. Electrical goods typically got cheaper and better as time went on but not anymore (gpu's anyone?). You may as well spend more money again and get a Forcite helmet with all these features baked in.
Tell me about it! So many of the electronics now seem to be getting more expensive, and where inexpensive options exist often they are heavily neutered, so you're not really getting a bargain.
Yes!👏😂 Kris yes please do more of this style of comedic-snarky-truth product reviews. Loving it! And I personally hate the concept of electronic device paywalls, i.e. like my duke 890r upgrades. F#*k them! ;)
Yea I'm not a fan, and looking at other industries, once implemented it tends to get much worse.
can't wait to pay a monthly sub to unlock my bike's other two cylinders
I swear we are heading that direction!
If this Cardo unit works like a satellite phone in range, then by all means charge people a subscription. But yeah, you wont fool us Cardo with your new subscraption service.
Something like that would be pretty cool to roll into what Cardo offers, and definitely add a lot more value.
If , like me , you have no sound to your helmet , whatever the source , apart from the engine , what would be the best kit to get and how expensive would that be please ? Leave snarky out !
I would like to hear a Satnav , my pillion , my phone and , if the price was reasonable , a nearby friend .
Fodsports fx6 is a good budget set £65 U.K. does all that. That’ll link to one rider or pillion. Links to phone, good voice recognition for text, calls etc. Great battery too
Anyone heard the Orwellian mantra “You will own nothing and be happy.”
Just go down that rabbit hole and this will make perfect sense.
They are still claiming that was disinformation, despite having it live on their own socials to this day.
@@MotoJournoKris we’re in the realm of malinformation ( true, but causes inconvenience to the authority ) now. They say this with mis & disinformation needs to be cleansed from the internet. Since the pandemic the government has revealed itself as the biggest purveyor of this. Look forward to them cancelling censoring themselves off the internet.
Why buy a subscription service if it works out more expensive.
What happens if you have a subscription and the unit fails? Do you get a new one?
This just does not make sense.
Just go with some other brand.
Buy a product that has all the features you need.
I'm sure Cardo will be backtracking this idea from what I've seen so far on this subject.
The latest Cardo comms kit will hang on your every word... but only if you stump for a subscription
Intercom trailblazers Cardo are introducing the first subscription-based helmet comms system in a step that’s already proving controversial.
Their new unit is called the Packtalk Custom and has the same engine as the existing Packtalk Neo, but you’ll need to pay an annual or monthly subscription if you want it to do everything a Packtalk Neo does.
The Packtalk Custom has downgraded speakers, and costs £68 less than the Neo.
So far, so normal.
The big difference is Cardo has switched off a bunch of the Neo’s features when creating the Packtalk Custom.
And if people want to switch those features back on it’ll cost them an extra annual or monthly subscription. In reality, by the time you’ve paid for six months you’ll have paid as much as an annual sub would have cost.
So for £254 you get a Mesh-only intercom that will only use its Bluetooth capability to connect to your phone.
Pay for a Silver subscription package and you’ll get to share your music with another Cardo’d-up rider, a selection of audio profiles and a speed dial function that lets you easily call your favourite people. That’ll cost another €2.99 a month, or €19.99 for the year.
Upgrading to a Gold sub opens up the Bluetooth intercom function, which is the only way to hook up with non-Cardo riders. You’ll also now be able to connect two phones to your comms unit. This sub will be €4.99 a month or €29.99 for the year.
The top package, Platinum, gives people what Cardo describes as “all the bells and whistles”. This means you’ll get the Cardo Natural Voice function that makes the unit respond to your voice commands, as well as a battery-saving Eco mode. For that, you’ll be stumping an extra €6.99 a month or €39.99 for the year.
The Gold and Platinum packs also include all the features from the lower-tier packages.
At current prices and Euro-pound exchange rates buying a Packtalk Custom and two annual Platinum subscriptions would add up to £324.
As things stand, for £322 you could buy the Neo with all the features unlocked and also have the superior JBL speakers.
The move to a subs model echoes what’s happening elsewhere in the car and motorcycle industries and Cardo say it has “unlocked the power of personalisation”.
Cardo chief executive officer Alon Lumbroso is quoted in the release as saying: “We’re extremely proud to continue to drive the industry forward with new trailblazing innovations and industry-firsts like the Packtalk Custom.”
The response on social media to Cardo’s announcement, however, suggests others in the industry may wish to take stock before heading off down the trail blazed by Cardo.
Here at Sportsbikeshop we know from experience with In&Motion airbags how much hostility there is among many riders towards the idea of paying for tech on a subscription basis - and it seems Cardo are copping some flak of their own now.
Cardo posted a video on their Facebook page, explaining the essentials of the Packtalk Custom on Friday 10 March, and inviting questions about it.
The 11 responses in the first six hours were overwhelmingly negative about the subs idea. One response gives a fair flavour of the backlash: “While I love my Cardo, I'll move to another com platform rather than be held hostage with a subscription.”
We guess only time will tell whether Cardo have played a blinder or made a bit of a blunder.
By Tony Hoare
Sportsbike shop
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If subscription services weren’t worse for the consumer they wouldn’t be so popular with companies
I'd rather just pull over and wait for my partner to catch up. It's free to yell at someone.
Another thing, we'll be drinking Malk in the future. Nothing as fancy as cockroach milk.
Haha that's true and definitely prevents any arguments. Gotta keep up the Vitamin R with the Malk.
@MotoJournoKris just put it in H and away you go.
It's disappointing to see this but it seems to be the way of the future. Maybe this product is sent out to convince you to spend more on the expensive model? It still stinks. Electrical goods typically got cheaper and better as time went on but not anymore (gpu's anyone?). You may as well spend more money again and get a Forcite helmet with all these features baked in.
Tell me about it! So many of the electronics now seem to be getting more expensive, and where inexpensive options exist often they are heavily neutered, so you're not really getting a bargain.
I hope they sell almost none of these units and they end up losing money on this stupid idea.
Yea I'm not a huge fan, seems a bit predatory.