Harvey, Chiesa, Endo, gomez before Konate injury barely got any mins under slot his treatment of these players is not fair he needs to know he's not in Dutch league
So if a manager doesn't rate a player or players he is being unfair on them, that is what a top manager diez, he selects players he believes will work within his system, as a club we have struggled with average squad players, Quansa, Jones, Kostas, Elliott, Robertson this season, that is huge chunk of our squad, City dominated because they had quality in debth, we dont.
It would be a shame if Elliott was sold specially with no serious midfielder brought in...Endo is another underrated player, which Slot doesn't seem to have much love for!!!
He was good last season and played well in some big games but you can tell he's a limited player but he should be use more to close out games But an upgrade definitely needed.
@daratheprofessional1827 He's not a limited player. He is a different player. He could easily be used to rotate any of the 3 main mindfielders. But Slot hardly uses him. I swear if Gravenbach is injured things might go south pretty quickly.
Slot treatment of certain players is Unacceptable. The way he treats Elliot, Chiesa, endo and Gomez is not good yet he keeps giving Chances to the likes Nunez, Jones Etc.
Look at Feyernord if he doesn't like a player you don't see them again. He wants players who put in a certain level in training and players who doe as he says.
Going back to last night. I just felt that the players weren't on the same wavelength. Also MS looked tired all game. The fact that we lost the game, well that might be a blessing in disguise considering the game against Forest!!!!
Agree we need signings. But why would a top player come to LFC when Slot won’t play much of the top talent he has currently.? He has been praised for his man mgmt but Klopp rotated far more IMO.
I'd be fine selling Jones or Elliot if it meant getting Rayan Cherki. He could partner with Szobo at the attacking MF spot. Selling Darwin now and buying Omar Marmoush in the off season. That would make us really tough in the front 4 going forward. Loan out Danns next year for experience then sell Jota after next year and bring in Jaden Danns to back up Marmoush.
Got to remember we’ve got an early kick off Saturday! So these lads you’re referring to about not getting game time, will more than likely start! So would make no sense to play them Thursday night cause they’d not be able to start Saturday.. slot did the right thing! I’d rather have the big guns sat at home Saturday and ready for a must win game on Tuesday at forest!
I thought Chiesa and Elliott were certainties for game time last night. What is Slot's problem or is it like Endo he just doesn't want to play them, even when the team is struggling.
I also read that and a deal for Ben Doak, 20 million plus ten in add ons. If Salah,Virgil,Trent and probably Nunez and Diaz and I read Clarkson and Bajcetic if the price is right. Next season John W Henry will need to buy a new team. I wonder if all these sales are for funds toward the RedSox rebuild. Their fans are as pi**ed of with FSG as we are.
Harvey Elliot is not quick enough and gives the ball away too much. He's a cup player or back up,that's it. I agree with Arne Slot....if he doesn't play him he doesn't trust him. We need quick midfielders like Gravenberch who can get back.
In Arne I trust so wouldn`t question his decisions why Elliott is not playing. Maybe his work rate is not enough, or injured again. But from my perspective both Jones and him are weak to win the PL. I would rotate Salah with Elliott some games, because I remember last year the Team was better when Salah was injured and after his return started the downfall.
Maybe he is not getting playing time because they want to sell him? Damn. That would pathetic from the club (but really, from FSG we can expect everything).
I think hughes and edwards have a policy of getting of all our youth players and now harvey elliot is on that list it feels like we are being asset stripped..
I'm sorry but Eliott doesnt have the defensive workrate and success of a modern midfielder. He tries and all he gets is an early yellow card. Dude can't defend. If you're not as talented as DeBreuyne or Odegard, it's gonna be hard to get the minutes. I see him as an attacker, so he is in the run against Salah and Chiesa.
We are told we don't need to sign anyone new as our squad is good and now we are looking at selling more of our players? What are we doing by decimating the squad again? This is just crazy! I thought Slot had valued Harvey at the start of the season as a good player for the team? Can't they see that we don't even have enough good players for rotation and they are all tired. Are we really playing at throw the titles away? And I thought Marmoush had said he wanted to play alongside Salah? He's not too clever if he goes to City.
Not arsed about personal accolades. Just the trophies & medals that come at the end of the season. Let Isaac have the player of the month. Last two games, you have to question the managers decisions on his management of the substitutes & the players who are making no impact Salah, Jones 🤷♂️ I get the leaving Salah on for the 90 ad he can get you a goal, but he is gona end up knackered & no good to anyone if his minutes aren't managed.
Liverpools income to wages ratio is 63%, new FFP rules next season teams can spend max 70%. There are more teams in worst situations, but any talk of contracts new signing must be with this in mind, eg Newcastle richest club in world by owner, they have to sell to buy, they are not buying whoever they want even though they can afford to, same for every club. We have 7% to play with, every contract every new buy has to be seriously scrutinised and negotiated,
Elliot would be a starter in most any other club especially in the EPL but look at the competition in this Liverpool side. I really hope this is just talk etc. I've this vision of himself Bradley, Kellegher and a few more of the younger players being a dominant backbone of the side in the not to distant future. On the goalkeeper situation, I have this notion that Becker is off to Saudi this summer and Kellegher becomes NO 1 and the new Georgian lad becomes backup and cup competition keeper???
It's not only that Harvey give us something different, he can play multiple positions, very talented at just 21 years of age, is english and a Liverpool fan. What more can we want than young and very talented boy that loves Liverpool? Please don't sell him!
If you honestly believe that Elliott or Jones are anyway near good enough to play for Liverpool then god help us. The only reason they are still there is because the owners won't spend money.
I Love Harvey! He didn't get enough chances to stay on the bench that often. From Player Side i can Unterstand to think about a loan move. Not selling or Option to buy. I think Borussia Dortmund can be a good fit, because nuri Sahin is playing a little bit Like Klopp and Harvey could fill their (upcoming) gaps on the Wing (If malen left Dortmund) and could Play alongside Brandt as an eight.
He's a good kid. However is he good enough ? I'm undecided to be honest. I certainly wouldn't sell him but perhaps the player himself wishes to leave, if so, we have to acknowledge that. I don't see him as a regular starter at this point.
Chiesa has been on a 4 month training camp. Slot too scared to take off Moe. 5-0 up vs West Ham Chiesa still on the bench 🤦♂️ No faith in Alison with the ball at his feet. Team was playing better with Kelleher
Disagree on Nunez as he has been given chances for 3 seasons and not performed but Elliot hasn't been given many chance, however when he has he played well.
Liverpool want to keep selling their talented youngsters, not signing new players, and letting older players contracts run out. Club sounds like it is being run perfectly...This is becoming a joke that is pushing me to question how much longer I can support the ownership/front office.
FSG should get the wallet out for marmuoush this window, hed settle a lot quicker with mo at the club and we cant let one of our rivals snap him up, iv only watched highlights but from what iv seen he looks the real deal his numbers this season are up there. We should give them 60mil and leave him till end of season and give us a chance to get similar fee for darwin.
He had enough chances under Klopp obviously Slot does not fancy him I happen to think Slot is right to light weight for the middle of midfield an not good enough for the forward births
If Liverpool had won against United and Spurs, Salah would have won the player of the Month. I will give it to Isak. He's been great recently, helping Newcastle unbeaten 5 wins.
It’s more of disappointment that they didn’t even bother with Omar. Liverpool standing in mud. With an exhausted and injured team. And Man City can still just go buy players while charges are just hanging around.
Elliott is a really good player Jürgen Said He One of his regrets. He thinks he should Played him more last season I think it’s ridiculous talk to get rid of him. Always done well for the team.
Jones is my baller but gotdamn! Sometimes his games frustrates me. Takes an extra touch when he doesn’t need to and killed two really good chances yesterday holding tha ball too long. At one point we had a clear in on goal and he held it then went backwards. Couldda broke my tv at that point smh
I think he does understand but yet again we are ten days into the transfer window and still no sign of any new players. What was the point of hiring Hughes if he does nothing?
If Slot is serious about improving the team then Sell Jones, Nunez and Ben Doak. Harvey is a great player, he’s always wanting to impress and nick a goal. Slot is damaging his confidence in my opinion.
I dont get your comment about not trusting Elliot or Chiesa. Clearly if the manager did not trust them they would not be on the bench. Obviously there must have been a reason that you are I cannot compute as to why they did not come on. But by just saying that its because Slot did not bring him on because he did not trust them is just lazy analysis.
Because December was the month in which he broke a record in by one acrion, that means he should be player or the month ahead of a player who outperformed him in Isak? 😂 Give me strength
The wheels are coming off aren't they? EVERY time pundits start talking about us thrashing United and winning "Quadruples" it all starts to unravel. Lose v Forest again draw with Brentford and lose to City and we are right back in a fight - and at the moment playing as we have in the last two games are you backing us to win? And the "owners" just do not get it do they? Sell to buy........so sell the best talent we have.
That is shocking regarding Harvey . Hes a top young quality
no he's not!just because we all want him to be that doesn't mean he is
I really don't want us to sell Harvey he's a really talented young player and I have loads of respect for him.
Szobo makes the difference.not Elliott or Johnes….
I have to absolutely agree 👍
Sure, FSG, let's weaken the squad even further. Great idea
The lack of rotation will cost us
Spot on!
The senior squad is a little thin everywhere. It is not that I am against selling individuals necessarily, but we are in a "buy to sell" situation.
Do NOT sell Harvey!
Harvey, Chiesa, Endo, gomez before Konate injury barely got any mins under slot his treatment of these players is not fair he needs to know he's not in Dutch league
So if a manager doesn't rate a player or players he is being unfair on them, that is what a top manager diez, he selects players he believes will work within his system, as a club we have struggled with average squad players, Quansa, Jones, Kostas, Elliott, Robertson this season, that is huge chunk of our squad, City dominated because they had quality in debth, we dont.
It would be a shame if Elliott was sold specially with no serious midfielder brought in...Endo is another underrated player, which Slot doesn't seem to have much love for!!!
Endo's skills are very modest! He only passes and in slow defense! You just have to look at his statistics!
he's relying on salah and gravenbech I believe
@@Judge-70Was he not one of the players of the season last season?
He was good last season and played well in some big games but you can tell he's a limited player but he should be use more to close out games But an upgrade definitely needed.
@daratheprofessional1827 He's not a limited player. He is a different player. He could easily be used to rotate any of the 3 main mindfielders. But Slot hardly uses him.
I swear if Gravenbach is injured things might go south pretty quickly.
That's the nice thing about Klopp. He gave every squad player a chance.
Elliot not first team quality . Brighton would be his leval, a good move for him.
Lol you're kidding right?
@@gravitraxa-team8969Definitely not and 5 others agree .!!!!
@tomwhite4736 forgive me, 5 other random people agree with you, how offside of me
@@gravitraxa-team8969 It's now 6!!!!
I would deffo use him for a swap deal for some of their players.
They have some good ones we can make use of.
Arne Slot got to be careful not to burn out he's top players. We have enough young talent that could have played last night
Day 9 of commenting "Where's the money, John?" Until we sign someone
Your getting boring
That's going to take a lot of determination to comment every day until the next summer transfer window.
Next summer window? Try next decade😂
@andrewsummers8334 Maybe learn to spell before commenting on others. It's "you're" - (you are) not "your". Back to School lad!
To the summer transfer window & beyond
Doesnt play one game and gets linked out these media outlet's need to get off our nuts.
LFC is not showing the same love that Harvey shows to the club
Stop benching Diaz when he is in form!
Slot treatment of certain players is Unacceptable. The way he treats Elliot, Chiesa, endo and Gomez is not good yet he keeps giving Chances to the likes Nunez, Jones Etc.
Look at Feyernord if he doesn't like a player you don't see them again. He wants players who put in a certain level in training and players who doe as he says.
I agree mate , I don’t like that side of slot
Unfortunately I would say even feynoord are More ambitious than us FSG are so cheap so he has to work with what he got @@Ruscococo1
@@Finstar13 he is ruthless that is how he gets success.
Be quiet. Nonsense
Too bad that he doesn't get many games under Slot. I think it is the best for his development to play somewhere else. I wish him luck.
Sell Jones n keep Harvey
Agree
Sell them both & darwin
Agree 100%
Add Jota Gomez Quansah to the list they ain’t good enough a!
@jeffv4999 I'd keep Gomez but agree on others
Going back to last night. I just felt that the players weren't on the same wavelength. Also MS looked tired all game. The fact that we lost the game, well that might be a blessing in disguise considering the game against Forest!!!!
Agree we need signings. But why would a top player come to LFC when Slot won’t play much of the top talent he has currently.? He has been praised for his man mgmt but Klopp rotated far more IMO.
I'd be fine selling Jones or Elliot if it meant getting Rayan Cherki. He could partner with Szobo at the attacking MF spot. Selling Darwin now and buying Omar Marmoush in the off season. That would make us really tough in the front 4 going forward. Loan out Danns next year for experience then sell Jota after next year and bring in Jaden Danns to back up Marmoush.
Got to remember we’ve got an early kick off Saturday! So these lads you’re referring to about not getting game time, will more than likely start! So would make no sense to play them Thursday night cause they’d not be able to start Saturday.. slot did the right thing! I’d rather have the big guns sat at home Saturday and ready for a must win game on Tuesday at forest!
Salah being snubbed for Player of the Month IS……IS ANTI-MOHAMED SALAH!!!
I thought Chiesa and Elliott were certainties for game time last night. What is Slot's problem or is it like Endo he just doesn't want to play them, even when the team is struggling.
I also read that and a deal for Ben Doak, 20 million plus ten in add ons. If Salah,Virgil,Trent and probably Nunez and Diaz and I read Clarkson and Bajcetic if the price is right. Next season John W Henry will need to buy a new team. I wonder if all these sales are for funds toward the RedSox rebuild. Their fans are as pi**ed of with FSG as we are.
Salah 🏹 should've won player of the month
Harvey Elliot is not quick enough and gives the ball away too much.
He's a cup player or back up,that's it.
I agree with Arne Slot....if he doesn't play him he doesn't trust him.
We need quick midfielders like Gravenberch who can get back.
In Arne I trust so wouldn`t question his decisions why Elliott is not playing. Maybe his work rate is not enough, or injured again. But from my perspective both Jones and him are weak to win the PL. I would rotate Salah with Elliott some games, because I remember last year the Team was better when Salah was injured and after his return started the downfall.
How elliot didn't play last night has me worried about slot
I really hope we dont sell Harvey he links up well with Mo. Sell Nunez.
Maybe he is not getting playing time because they want to sell him? Damn. That would pathetic from the club (but really, from FSG we can expect everything).
I think hughes and edwards have a policy of getting of all our youth players and now harvey elliot is on that list it feels like we are being asset stripped..
I like him he good lad plays well when get the chance
I'm sorry but Eliott doesnt have the defensive workrate and success of a modern midfielder. He tries and all he gets is an early yellow card. Dude can't defend. If you're not as talented as DeBreuyne or Odegard, it's gonna be hard to get the minutes. I see him as an attacker, so he is in the run against Salah and Chiesa.
We are told we don't need to sign anyone new as our squad is good and now we are looking at selling more of our players? What are we doing by decimating the squad again? This is just crazy! I thought Slot had valued Harvey at the start of the season as a good player for the team? Can't they see that we don't even have enough good players for rotation and they are all tired. Are we really playing at throw the titles away? And I thought Marmoush had said he wanted to play alongside Salah? He's not too clever if he goes to City.
did marmoush say that
Maybe Salah will join City on a free
Not arsed about personal accolades. Just the trophies & medals that come at the end of the season. Let Isaac have the player of the month.
Last two games, you have to question the managers decisions on his management of the substitutes & the players who are making no impact Salah, Jones 🤷♂️
I get the leaving Salah on for the 90 ad he can get you a goal, but he is gona end up knackered & no good to anyone if his minutes aren't managed.
He is my favourite player and deserves to play he is better than Jones in my opinion. When he gets on pitch he plays great, Slot get ur act together
Liverpools income to wages ratio is 63%, new FFP rules next season teams can spend max 70%. There are more teams in worst situations, but any talk of contracts new signing must be with this in mind, eg Newcastle richest club in world by owner, they have to sell to buy, they are not buying whoever they want even though they can afford to, same for every club. We have 7% to play with, every contract every new buy has to be seriously scrutinised and negotiated,
This figure is way too high..I think the figure should be set at 50% max..This would bring fees and wages down which have got out of hand..
Elliot would be a starter in most any other club especially in the EPL but look at the competition in this Liverpool side.
I really hope this is just talk etc. I've this vision of himself Bradley, Kellegher and a few more of the younger players being a dominant backbone of the side in the not to distant future.
On the goalkeeper situation, I have this notion that Becker is off to Saudi this summer and Kellegher becomes NO 1 and the new Georgian lad becomes backup and cup competition keeper???
Ae need to keep elliott. I don't understand why he hardly gets game time. He's a brilliant player and definitely better than jones
It's not only that Harvey give us something different, he can play multiple positions, very talented at just 21 years of age, is english and a Liverpool fan. What more can we want than young and very talented boy that loves Liverpool? Please don't sell him!
If you honestly believe that Elliott or Jones are anyway near good enough to play for Liverpool then god help us. The only reason they are still there is because the owners won't spend money.
Get rid of Darwin and splash the cash on isak. Who else would you bring in ?
Guehi
I will be utterely shocked if Harvey goes, we need him and I hope for more game time for him
I Love Harvey!
He didn't get enough chances to stay on the bench that often. From Player Side i can Unterstand to think about a loan move. Not selling or Option to buy. I think Borussia Dortmund can be a good fit, because nuri Sahin is playing a little bit Like Klopp and Harvey could fill their (upcoming) gaps on the Wing (If malen left Dortmund) and could Play alongside Brandt as an eight.
For many reasons we cannot sell Harvey not least because he’s home grown and we don’t have enough of them in the squad
Chiesa to Napoli if khvaratskhelia goes to psg.
He’s going to be gutted as he loves liverpool. If Elliot is sold that’s definitely down to slot
He's a good kid. However is he good enough ? I'm undecided to be honest. I certainly wouldn't sell him but perhaps the player himself wishes to leave, if so, we have to acknowledge that. I don't see him as a regular starter at this point.
Chiesa has been on a 4 month training camp. Slot too scared to take off Moe. 5-0 up vs West Ham Chiesa still on the bench 🤦♂️ No faith in Alison with the ball at his feet. Team was playing better with Kelleher
Completely agree, we need to get kelleher back in goal, as Allison has my nerves gone every time he has the ball at his feet.
Not enough rotating among the midfielders is the only issue that can cost Liverpool the title and Champions league success
Elliott and Nunez are our players and neither should be sold. Slot must use them more.
Disagree on Nunez as he has been given chances for 3 seasons and not performed but Elliot hasn't been given many chance, however when he has he played well.
He is injury prone now might as well get decent money whilst we can
Lads this is ridiculous elliot came on against united and as I remember got a bad knock was hobbling around maybe he was not 100percent
Liverpool want to keep selling their talented youngsters, not signing new players, and letting older players contracts run out. Club sounds like it is being run perfectly...This is becoming a joke that is pushing me to question how much longer I can support the ownership/front office.
Said last night in live chat i thought elliot would want to leave if he not getting minutes. Would rather sell jones than elliot
True what's the point you got players n not using them
Lets just sell whole Liverpool squad. We are just a supermarket😂
Every window they come and want someone in Liverpool
Harvey is going nowhere he’s our lad
FSG should get the wallet out for marmuoush this window, hed settle a lot quicker with mo at the club and we cant let one of our rivals snap him up, iv only watched highlights but from what iv seen he looks the real deal his numbers this season are up there. We should give them 60mil and leave him till end of season and give us a chance to get similar fee for darwin.
Umm people say Liverpool will not sign any player's.....is that true
We need CBs one that can play LB
Harvey is 5 times better than Curtis. But he is too slow for me. If I were Richard Hughes, I would sell them both.
Shame if they sell Harvey, what is happening at our club ❤
He had enough chances under Klopp obviously Slot does not fancy him I happen to think Slot is right to light weight for the middle of midfield an not good enough for the forward births
On the ninth day of January my true love said to me, no signings and a partridge in a pair tree 🙈
Maybe Mr Slot has a few more slots for Dutch players ?
Slot is tiring the players he likes.. he needs to used the team...
Can’t believe Elliot is being over looked for jones
Day 1 : Scouse Elon is on route John
This is the time of year that Salah historically stops scoring and Liverpool fall away.
If Liverpool had won against United and Spurs, Salah would have won the player of the Month. I will give it to Isak. He's been great recently, helping Newcastle unbeaten 5 wins.
You'd probably find a story that we're signing Reus. This is just sensationalism
It’s more of disappointment that they didn’t even bother with Omar. Liverpool standing in mud. With an exhausted and injured team. And Man City can still just go buy players while charges are just hanging around.
That’s not a shock to me as we are becoming a selling club, not a buying club
slot should rotate more klopp believed in him he should be given game time
Elliott is a really good player Jürgen Said He One of his regrets. He thinks he should Played him more last season I think it’s ridiculous talk to get rid of him. Always done well for the team.
Jones is my baller but gotdamn! Sometimes his games frustrates me. Takes an extra touch when he doesn’t need to and killed two really good chances yesterday holding tha ball too long. At one point we had a clear in on goal and he held it then went backwards. Couldda broke my tv at that point smh
We're getting to the bare bones now with injuries,selling players?
FSG need to go I am sick of the way we are being ran.
The manager did say you will see of my football ,in the new year. I was expecting us step up. Looks like we are stepping down.
I'm beginning to suspect slot does not understand the Premier league needs rotation
I think he does understand but yet again we are ten days into the transfer window and still no sign of any new players. What was the point of hiring Hughes if he does nothing?
Now that we talking about kvarastkhelia Man City will go and get him like they trying to do with Mamouse
Liverpool only sell and never buy soon enoughg we wont have a squad.
we need to sell Quansah, and Gomez, then we get a good defender
This is where the season get de railed …
£60m for Elliot but don’t want him to be sold
Elliot is class keep him do not sell him fsg been cheap
It’s an open season on Liverpool youngsters.
He should be starting over Jones
If Slot is serious about improving the team then Sell Jones, Nunez and Ben Doak. Harvey is a great player, he’s always wanting to impress and nick a goal. Slot is damaging his confidence in my opinion.
Jones must go
I dont get your comment about not trusting Elliot or Chiesa. Clearly if the manager did not trust them they would not be on the bench. Obviously there must have been a reason that you are I cannot compute as to why they did not come on. But by just saying that its because Slot did not bring him on because he did not trust them is just lazy analysis.
Told u we need to sell a top player before we bring in a senior player
That's the season over for Liverpool, they still might finish top 4.
It's beyond me why Elliot is not playing
Maybe the manager just doesn't fancy him
Because December was the month in which he broke a record in by one acrion, that means he should be player or the month ahead of a player who outperformed him in Isak? 😂 Give me strength
The wheels are coming off aren't they?
EVERY time pundits start talking about us thrashing United and winning "Quadruples" it all starts to unravel.
Lose v Forest again draw with Brentford and lose to City and we are right back in a fight - and at the moment playing as we have in the last two games are you backing us to win?
And the "owners" just do not get it do they? Sell to buy........so sell the best talent we have.
Stupid idea to sell harvey. get rid of Darwin, and get some new requits.