I'm glad you made this video, I can recall when I was homeless and faced with many things in Life until $75,000 biweekly began rolling in and my Life went from A homeless nobody to a different person with good things to offer!!!!!!❤️
Peter, I'm happy to say that I've started using SSE in my own classes, and it's been fantastic. The other day, it led one student to realize her position on a certain issue wasn't at all compatible with some of the values she actually holds dear. It was amazing watching someone question themselves and undergo honest-to-god personal growth right in front of my eyes. Thanks for the inspiration!
My husband's company no longer even entertains hiring Ivy League applicants because of how brainwashed they are now. It's no longer seen as an asset - and they have some amazingly brilliant people working there.
Maybe the greatest joy of my life is that every week I interview applicants and I get to say something like- “I asked you why I should hire you. Not how much time and money you wasted on a worthless degree.” Then after they express astonishment I generally say- “Going forward in job interview you should maybe keep your degree to yourself. Bringing it up doesn’t help you.” And yes I have kids. But saying those things may still be my greatest joy.
Choosing anything using anything but merit and content of character is a form of discrimination to a group that’s the irony of DEI it’s inherently discriminatory in the name of being inclusive!
DEI was never meant to actually be inclusive. It has always been a radical tactic to punish the "enemies of the people" (which in the current period is mainly competent straight White men). It is a deliberate strategy to "centre the margins", which is a thoroughly Queer concept and when applied to the axis of competence leads only to failure as you promote incompetence and demote competence.
@@Gumbatron01 thanks for sharing. I just took a bong rip before I read your statements and decided to plug it into ChatGPT for shits and giggles. I have had a pleasant conversation with it and it has helped me shape my own views on DEI in a more concise & constructive manner.
Great episode, Peter. I laughed heartily more than once. When you asked about about merit over lived experience, I was hoping that would switch over to an inquiry of how enduring certain lived experience is itself a form of merit, and that's exactly where you took it, and what ensued from there was top-tier. Absolutely impressed with you and the participants.
A key problem is that the primary motivation for most support departments is to keep themselves relevant. Thus come policies, enforcement mechanisms, organisational kpi's etc.
@@whatoh3407 Go see an ear nise and throat specialist then because your ears don't seem to be working. You may be suffering from 'Only-hear-what-suits -my -postion' disease.
But it wasn't "skin color" though right? DEI isn't about including people based on life experience, it's about including people based on skin color. I didn't find the defining of merit to help with that.
I love hearing someone claim to be a student of MLK. It's obvious that she would be an outcast in the DEI Industrial Complex, it's also very illustrative of the state of that group of people. She needs to be further platformed. I would love to know more about her ideas.
was it Thomas sowell that talked about how many black students flunk out of MIT and harvard, wasting many tens of thousands of dollars and time, as opposed to going to schools better matched to them academically where they could have prospered greatly? it seems cruel to set someone up to fail, and evil when you're doing it because of their skin color. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I think one of the big issues as brought up in this is what is merit. Merit to get into a school is normally grades and nothing else but there are times when for a sports team someone has merit that will get them in for playing on the team even though their grade merit isn't as high as others. I think that is fine. When it comes to a job merit to me it isn't just about how good your grades are or what school you went to but all your experience as a person and it also depends on what job you are being hired to do. I scored I think around 1450 in 6th grade on SAT. I got kicked out of 7th grade and started home schooling. I started going to community college at 16. At 18 I took SAT again and got around 1500-1550. I went to college and learned nothing but got a degree (computer science). One of my first classes in college my professor told me to sit in the back of the class because I was coding video games (first game I coded was when I was 10) and he was like I know this class is pointless for you but don't distract others behind you. I helped other people pass classes in the degree and told them find another major this isn't for you. I took a lot of classes outside my major for fun and interest (1 class away from getting minor in religion due to taking a 200 level class instead of the 1 more 300 I needed for the minor) I finished college and spent 4 months (originally planned for 6 months but had to leave due to political problems) in an African country doing humanitarian aid work for fun. I then came back and got a job and have been doing it ever since but getting bored with it and have thought about going back to college for a new degree or just trying to start my own business for other things. After all my years of coding I understand that merit can mean more than just getting good grades (it is always good to sometimes have someone looking at the code from a different angle which leads to new things) but it should still be based on merit not "positive" discrimination due to sex or race.
It's probably not such a big deal in the hard sciences, but have worked with and was part of the hiring process of people who went to ivy league schools and underimpressed.
It's important to stick closely with the initial claim. "Best" is a single thing. I heard nothing about why merit isn't the single best metric, only that there should also be other considerations.
Life experiences as merit, IMHO, may not be very helpful when I am confronted with a Calculus problem of evaluating an improper integral and I need to have an understanding of differentiation, integration and limits to do so. 🧐
Crazy that the DEI lady didn’t know what merit is. if it’s on a resume it’s merit based. Now is there some flexibility in merit to take into account disadvantaged individuals. Yea, that might be where DEI fits in but it doesn’t. Too much focus on characteristics that don’t appear on resumes
"should they X or Y?"... this depends on the goals. if the goal is to "give people a college experience".. then sure, have the policies. if the goal is "create a space for the smartest and most capable people we can attract while offering a worthwhile degree that will help the student in their future career"... probably not. outside of context, there is no should or shouldn't. is _policy_ the best way to achieve _goal_... would be a stronger way to understand the participants. as is, the participants have different goals, and therefore a different stance on the policy. "should you eat cake?" vs "is cake the best way to celebrate a birthday?" floating vs contextualized. you probably shouldn't eat cake for breakfast unless your goal is to get diabetese. this is different than your 'factual claims' like "most DEI programs do X".. which don't require a context, it's just a perception of a claim of fact. so.. "should" questions probably benefit from context "evaluate the truthfulness of this statement" questions probably don't require context. and yes, I know you're making statements, but functionally it's a question of 'how do you feel about this' is being asked. :-)
In the first 10 seconds, I learned that criterion is singular and criteria is plural.
Hit 200k today. I'm really grateful for all the knowledge and nuggets you had thrown my way over the last months.
Started with 14k in June 2024
I'm glad you made this video, I can recall when I was homeless and faced with many things in Life until $75,000 biweekly began rolling in and my Life went from A homeless nobody to a different person with good things to offer!!!!!!❤️
HOW !! I know it's possible , I would appreciate if you show me how to go about it .
It's Roberta Ann Caudill doing she changed my life. A BROKER- like her is what you need.
700 000 $ et pourtant on compte toujours sur Roberta Ann Caudill, c'est le genre de personne dont on a besoin dans sa vie pour être honnête❤️❤️❤️>>>>
😱Sounds familiar, I have heard her name on several occasions.. and both her success stories in the wall Street journal
I love the use of Robin D'angeloing as a verb. We need to make that common parlance.
Peter, I'm happy to say that I've started using SSE in my own classes, and it's been fantastic. The other day, it led one student to realize her position on a certain issue wasn't at all compatible with some of the values she actually holds dear. It was amazing watching someone question themselves and undergo honest-to-god personal growth right in front of my eyes. Thanks for the inspiration!
My husband's company no longer even entertains hiring Ivy League applicants because of how brainwashed they are now. It's no longer seen as an asset - and they have some amazingly brilliant people working there.
Maybe the greatest joy of my life is that every week I interview applicants and I get to say something like-
“I asked you why I should hire you. Not how much time and money you wasted on a worthless degree.”
Then after they express astonishment I generally say-
“Going forward in job interview you should maybe keep your degree to yourself. Bringing it up doesn’t help you.”
And yes I have kids. But saying those things may still be my greatest joy.
As someone who lacks merit and skills, I think merit should have nothing to do with getting a good job like a doctor.
I thank you.
Love this channel, Peter.
Your work is important!
Choosing anything using anything but merit and content of character is a form of discrimination to a group that’s the irony of DEI it’s inherently discriminatory in the name of being inclusive!
DEI was never meant to actually be inclusive. It has always been a radical tactic to punish the "enemies of the people" (which in the current period is mainly competent straight White men). It is a deliberate strategy to "centre the margins", which is a thoroughly Queer concept and when applied to the axis of competence leads only to failure as you promote incompetence and demote competence.
@@Gumbatron01 thanks for sharing. I just took a bong rip before I read your statements and decided to plug it into ChatGPT for shits and giggles. I have had a pleasant conversation with it and it has helped me shape my own views on DEI in a more concise & constructive manner.
Very interesting group of people. I’d like to hear more from them!
Great episode, Peter. I laughed heartily more than once. When you asked about about merit over lived experience, I was hoping that would switch over to an inquiry of how enduring certain lived experience is itself a form of merit, and that's exactly where you took it, and what ensued from there was top-tier. Absolutely impressed with you and the participants.
A key problem is that the primary motivation for most support departments is to keep themselves relevant. Thus come policies, enforcement mechanisms, organisational kpi's etc.
That's why we need something instead like a "task force" rather than a "department".
I can't believe some people think DEI is important, but then again, they were eating Tide Pods.
You can't believe godless people would hurt others to advantage themselves? Do you live on earth?
I don't ever hear you pricks complain about Nepo babies? Or legacy admissions, and I know exactly why lol hilarious.
@@rationalbacon5872 seek professional help
@@whatoh3407 Go see an ear nise and throat specialist then because your ears don't seem to be working. You may be suffering from 'Only-hear-what-suits -my -postion' disease.
@@mr.mclibtard5015 I'd seek professional help but unfortunately the professionals are all DEI hires
WOW!I hope that Lady stays strong on her ways...
You were spot on when saying how important it is to define merit.
But it wasn't "skin color" though right? DEI isn't about including people based on life experience, it's about including people based on skin color. I didn't find the defining of merit to help with that.
@@deadgolfer6345It's motte and bailey.
It’s just like the trans issue. Race based hiring simultaneously isn’t happening, but it’s also crucial to maintain fairness and inclusion
13:42 academic success if a life experience…
Oh I love Chloe! What great people to explore this issue with!
I love hearing someone claim to be a student of MLK. It's obvious that she would be an outcast in the DEI Industrial Complex, it's also very illustrative of the state of that group of people. She needs to be further platformed. I would love to know more about her ideas.
Another great session!
These people are insane. Claiming the moral highground while also being tolerant of murder, and supporting it in some instances.
The guy that is against DEI said it very well, it's not about if you should only consider merit, it's about what you consider AS merit.
Selecting only on sat/ivy league attendance etc. is not merit. Merit is the entirety of a person's background.
Chloe is great.
was it Thomas sowell that talked about how many black students flunk out of MIT and harvard, wasting many tens of thousands of dollars and time, as opposed to going to schools better matched to them academically where they could have prospered greatly? it seems cruel to set someone up to fail, and evil when you're doing it because of their skin color. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
👋 Meritocracy 4 da Win! 🏆
Would love intros on who the people are
Chloe Valdary!
I think one of the big issues as brought up in this is what is merit. Merit to get into a school is normally grades and nothing else but there are times when for a sports team someone has merit that will get them in for playing on the team even though their grade merit isn't as high as others. I think that is fine. When it comes to a job merit to me it isn't just about how good your grades are or what school you went to but all your experience as a person and it also depends on what job you are being hired to do.
I scored I think around 1450 in 6th grade on SAT. I got kicked out of 7th grade and started home schooling. I started going to community college at 16. At 18 I took SAT again and got around 1500-1550. I went to college and learned nothing but got a degree (computer science). One of my first classes in college my professor told me to sit in the back of the class because I was coding video games (first game I coded was when I was 10) and he was like I know this class is pointless for you but don't distract others behind you. I helped other people pass classes in the degree and told them find another major this isn't for you. I took a lot of classes outside my major for fun and interest (1 class away from getting minor in religion due to taking a 200 level class instead of the 1 more 300 I needed for the minor) I finished college and spent 4 months (originally planned for 6 months but had to leave due to political problems) in an African country doing humanitarian aid work for fun. I then came back and got a job and have been doing it ever since but getting bored with it and have thought about going back to college for a new degree or just trying to start my own business for other things.
After all my years of coding I understand that merit can mean more than just getting good grades (it is always good to sometimes have someone looking at the code from a different angle which leads to new things) but it should still be based on merit not "positive" discrimination due to sex or race.
Imagine having an Alaskan fisherman playing with these people…
It's probably not such a big deal in the hard sciences, but have worked with and was part of the hiring process of people who went to ivy league schools and underimpressed.
Equity requires holding some people down and given to others, whether deserved or not.
It's important to stick closely with the initial claim. "Best" is a single thing. I heard nothing about why merit isn't the single best metric, only that there should also be other considerations.
Microprocessor design does not care about your life experience.
Just wanted to let you know you're still gracing PSU's halls I have you on in their gym. Making sure my screen is enlarged and on lol 😂
Life experiences as merit, IMHO, may not be very helpful when I am confronted with a Calculus problem of evaluating an improper integral and I need to have an understanding of differentiation, integration and limits to do so. 🧐
It's not meritocratic if some people start with a huge head start as opposed to others.
How about some life saving surgery from a DEI surgeon or a long haul flight with a DEI pilot.
These guests are two academics and a student or grad student. Who are they, exactly? One apparently has a recently-published book, even.
You need to be specific. What does DEI do that's harmful. What does merit mean grades, SAT? Who had the most merit, Washington or Einstein?
Crazy that the DEI lady didn’t know what merit is. if it’s on a resume it’s merit based. Now is there some flexibility in merit to take into account disadvantaged individuals. Yea, that might be where DEI fits in but it doesn’t. Too much focus on characteristics that don’t appear on resumes
Who are these people? Maybe give us some information about them?
Why is DEI not forced onto the football field in the NFL?
Cause they want to win😅
Hi Peter tehe! 🎉
merit and test scores are not the same. Merit can be much broader.
Sure but doesn't DEI reward skin color?
@@deadgolfer6345 I didn't make a comment on DEI. I made a comment on merit. I like merit.
"should they X or Y?"... this depends on the goals. if the goal is to "give people a college experience".. then sure, have the policies. if the goal is "create a space for the smartest and most capable people we can attract while offering a worthwhile degree that will help the student in their future career"... probably not.
outside of context, there is no should or shouldn't.
is _policy_ the best way to achieve _goal_... would be a stronger way to understand the participants.
as is, the participants have different goals, and therefore a different stance on the policy.
"should you eat cake?" vs "is cake the best way to celebrate a birthday?" floating vs contextualized. you probably shouldn't eat cake for breakfast unless your goal is to get diabetese.
this is different than your 'factual claims' like "most DEI programs do X".. which don't require a context, it's just a perception of a claim of fact.
so.. "should" questions probably benefit from context
"evaluate the truthfulness of this statement" questions probably don't require context.
and yes, I know you're making statements, but functionally it's a question of 'how do you feel about this' is being asked. :-)
The neutral guy seems awfully twitchy.
Could be his personality but I’m going out on a limb here
@ I was thinking mental or chemical
Fluffy bunch. Seemed there was a decent amount of guarded or flowery language.
DEI is racism. To argue against that is silly
This stuff is boring guys. You need better guests. They won't come on? Then figure out how to get them on.
Is this even relevant anymore?
Yes.
All of these people are dumb and should be fired (including Peter).
Good one kid
Peter quit! Got fed up and resigned.