When I was very young in the business I got to work with Don Kernodle a few times who was at the very end of his career, doing just 1 or 2 matches per year in his hometown where he was still a local legend. He was the first person I ever heard who thanked his opponent and in particular who thanked the heels for putting him over and it always stuck with me. After that, I tried to always remember to thank people for the match, ESPECIALLY when we were going over. He'd been a huge star in this area and it made an impression on me that he showed the people he worked who had done virtually nothing of note by comparison so much respect.
0:52 you’re responsible for one of the most influential indie wrestling organizations in existence, are responsible for thousands of classic matches and shows held under that banner, you’ve trained endless amounts of wrestlers in a way not possible until that point. You’ve had trading cards, been in video games. Forget the super jrs, Mike
Does the merchandise rule apply to corporate wrestlers? Like for example if a talent came from somewhere like AEW or NJPW to WWE, but they haven’t had their first match yet, can they still have their merch on sale behind the arena stands before the show starts?
Hey Mike cool vid another question I have back when theses wrestling terms or traditions where more common was there a certain way that a wrestler had to ask the promoter prior to the event on how much they were getting paid? Or was it straight up? And also did wrestlers negotiate there pay based on there skill level?
Great questions. Every territory had different practices. The way it was done out of Roy Shire’s office was different from Bob Armstrong’s office. Some paid flat fees, some paid each wrestler a percentage of the gate, based on how high up the card they were advertised.
Honestly, the merch one is also practical from both a psychological and practical aspect, too. In a practical sense, I'd imagine, you wouldn't want to risk crowding up the audience as they're getting to their seats, and psychologically, I'd think if you were trying to get people to buy your specific merch before the show, it could feel like you're more desperate for the dollar. I know as a fan if someone is trying to get me to buy their shirt before I've even seen them wrestle, I'd be wary of giving them my dollar. Although obviously this doesn't apply to, say, a company merch stand that is selling one of your shirts anyway and has specific people manning it.
I know a number of indies that have more of a communal merch table. It those situations, get your merch on the table. Maybe don't go out to the table until after a match (unless you're an established star for the company). But a full merch table makes the promotion look good.
My mentor is super old school (and I carry that mentality, even as a journeyman) and I've never had merch (I wrestle as a heel) to sell or autographs to make side money. I've also never heard of or seen the "heel cut." With this concept all but extinct, and suggestions for heels to bring in a little more revenue than the booking fee?
Never heard of the heel cut but it makes sense. Showingass should be something utilized because it's another tool to get your opponent over. As a heel, one should look to get humiliated if it helps the babyface and progresses the story. Obviously there are ways to do this besides tripping over the rope while getting in the ring. This is where one should use their imagination, neat concept.
The “heel cut” basically vanished by the turn of the millennium. I think the Flair Flop is an easy example of an idea originally meant to make the heel seem foolish.
With regards to showing ass as Dennis Condrey put it - We make them happy cause we make them laugh then we make them mad cause we made them quit laughing (once they start getting heat on the babyfaces)
Wonder if JR sold his 2nd degree burns to the next town when Kane doused him in gasoline and set him on fire 😭😂. What about the 100 feet car drop triple h had?😂
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This is very kind, thank you ever so much, Nate!
When I was very young in the business I got to work with Don Kernodle a few times who was at the very end of his career, doing just 1 or 2 matches per year in his hometown where he was still a local legend. He was the first person I ever heard who thanked his opponent and in particular who thanked the heels for putting him over and it always stuck with me. After that, I tried to always remember to thank people for the match, ESPECIALLY when we were going over. He'd been a huge star in this area and it made an impression on me that he showed the people he worked who had done virtually nothing of note by comparison so much respect.
0:52 you’re responsible for one of the most influential indie wrestling organizations in existence, are responsible for thousands of classic matches and shows held under that banner, you’ve trained endless amounts of wrestlers in a way not possible until that point. You’ve had trading cards, been in video games. Forget the super jrs, Mike
I am genuinely flattered by your words, thank you for that. It does mean a lot
@@TilWeMakeIt its not just kind words or a compliment because it’s the truth. You did that. You’re THAT guy, Mike. Don’t forget it
@@XxXxTwofirstnames69420xXxXx 🙏
8:51 1 milk drinking Olympic machine popped into my head so quickly at the explanation
Does the merchandise rule apply to corporate wrestlers? Like for example if a talent came from somewhere like AEW or NJPW to WWE, but they haven’t had their first match yet, can they still have their merch on sale behind the arena stands before the show starts?
I have heard of most of these. I just started and I'm still in beginning classes.
Right on Tommy! Which ones were new to you?
@@TilWeMakeIt keeping money in the boots is new and definitely sounds like something from way back in the old days of wrestling.
@@TommyTiger619 You ain't kidding! Where are you taking your beginner level classes?
@@TilWeMakeIt I am taking classes at pro wrestling revolution in San Jose, CA.
Hey Mike cool vid another question I have back when theses wrestling terms or traditions where more common was there a certain way that a wrestler had to ask the promoter prior to the event on how much they were getting paid? Or was it straight up? And also did wrestlers negotiate there pay based on there skill level?
Great questions. Every territory had different practices. The way it was done out of Roy Shire’s office was different from Bob Armstrong’s office. Some paid flat fees, some paid each wrestler a percentage of the gate, based on how high up the card they were advertised.
Honestly, the merch one is also practical from both a psychological and practical aspect, too. In a practical sense, I'd imagine, you wouldn't want to risk crowding up the audience as they're getting to their seats, and psychologically, I'd think if you were trying to get people to buy your specific merch before the show, it could feel like you're more desperate for the dollar. I know as a fan if someone is trying to get me to buy their shirt before I've even seen them wrestle, I'd be wary of giving them my dollar. Although obviously this doesn't apply to, say, a company merch stand that is selling one of your shirts anyway and has specific people manning it.
Right, I do think this applies differently at the corporate level than it does at the independent level.
I know a number of indies that have more of a communal merch table. It those situations, get your merch on the table. Maybe don't go out to the table until after a match (unless you're an established star for the company). But a full merch table makes the promotion look good.
My mentor is super old school (and I carry that mentality, even as a journeyman) and I've never had merch (I wrestle as a heel) to sell or autographs to make side money. I've also never heard of or seen the "heel cut." With this concept all but extinct, and suggestions for heels to bring in a little more revenue than the booking fee?
Never heard of the heel cut but it makes sense.
Showingass should be something utilized because it's another tool to get your opponent over. As a heel, one should look to get humiliated if it helps the babyface and progresses the story. Obviously there are ways to do this besides tripping over the rope while getting in the ring. This is where one should use their imagination, neat concept.
The “heel cut” basically vanished by the turn of the millennium.
I think the Flair Flop is an easy example of an idea originally meant to make the heel seem foolish.
What is your opinion on workers telling other workers their real names? Some guys tell but i just use their ring name incase fans are around.
I think the context matters. In the locker room is one thing, if there’s a risk of fans overhearing…that’s a very different thing
is becoming a mentor for me without knowing me😂
With regards to showing ass as Dennis Condrey put it - We make them happy cause we make them laugh then we make them mad cause we made them quit laughing (once they start getting heat on the babyfaces)
I have never heard that before- thanks for sharing it, Mike!
likeapalooza baby!!!
Hello . You know any pro wrestling near Mississippi
I can't say I do. You might need to look to Alabama or Louisiana.
Listening to you and the low low priced paid service has completely changed the way I work!
I'm glad to hear this - thank you!
I've never heard showing ass before, but the first person I thought of was William Regal
I think I like Dominik Mysterio so much is because hes willing to "Show Ass" and thats very unusual in today WWE!
Tips! Lol
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Well thank you kindly, Camada!
George South has spoken several times about Ric Flair tipping him after a match
Was this from his Jim Crockett days?
Bobby Lashley tipped my buddy $100 because he threw him into the ring post .
What's wrong with the screen??
Wonder if JR sold his 2nd degree burns to the next town when Kane doused him in gasoline and set him on fire 😭😂. What about the 100 feet car drop triple h had?😂
I heard that Roddy Piper would always tip the job guys he worked with.
Yes! I heard the same of Curt Hennig
Don’t forget to tip the jobbers!
im sorry but who are you3
Google is your friend! 🙃
Never mention in the intro to any video that you failed to make your goal. That's shooting your business - yourself- in the foot.
I appreciate the feedback, Mike - thanks!