The majority of elite rowers open their backs later. I am not an elite rower and recently changed from opening the back earlier like the rowers in the video to opening later. I get extra speed by opening the back later.
Eric reminds me my time 30 some years ago...! I have same body type and rowing style as he has. Unfortunately I don't have any video just few medals. His rowing is really good, You can find always something to fail, you can't be perfect, that is the reason why we do trainings and practices! Thank you for the video and keep up the good job Eric!! Somebody from Peter Kolbe era
Brilliant, very carefully edited to enable all of us to get some really useful ideas to implement next time on the water. Thank you for taking the time to share you skill with us.
Although an old video now.......this is IMO a VERY good summary of the points raised.....if you scull as good as shown here......all you have to do is train, train, train, and you critics will get as good.!!! Look how the boats run and it looks effortless as it should.
there are many different ways to move a single scull. Look at any olympic final and they all scull very differently. This is a very german style i.e. the opening up early..in crews boats as long as everyone is doing the same thing it matters far less. This is not the standard technique for many nations but it is how a lot of germans row also how a lot of athletes with greater elbow to shoulder strength compared % wise to knee to hip ratio (i.e. upper body strength)
I am a 59 yr old English guy struggling with knee issues since my teens. Next month I am starting a learning to row course. I have no great strength but have always had good rythum and timing. This video is inspirational...so elegant...so graceful. I will picture it in my mind whenever I can one I get started.
Great video and useful notes. The most difficult for non-elite rowers (such as I am) is to take out the bad habits acquired while training with a no-so-good technique. As I said before, great and instructive video.
I was stroking a double once briefly when I used to splash and the bow man absolutely drenched afterwards. He made sure it was the worst three hours of my life😫
Learn your team mates it is a water sport. Most rowers don't have enough back splash. It could be a bit to much on your side, but starting from there is not bad
I love all these NON-champions commenting 'poor technique' Lol Not every stroke is going to be spot on perfect even for Olympic gold medalists. But keep criticizing it's hilarious
@rdominadomina The problem is, you just can't keep your head on a straight horizontal line if you "catch with the back" as they all purposedly do in this video. This said, the first sculler (by far the best here) is nicely horizontal after the initial lifting (and also sends the boat away very nicely). PS if you like, search for the Athens 2004 finals and look at Juri Jaanson or the French 2x for examples of what you want to do
the widening of the angles is different from the British technique. Here you say widen the angles simultaneously, but where my coaches have always told me to widen first the leg angles and then the back.
I think it is a great video. I would like to say to all the people criticizing, what are your qualifications and experiences to allow yourselves to comment to alleged errors that you see in these rowing techniques? As last the best athletes are the ones who get the best scores not necessarily the ones with the most beautiful techniques.
Agree. I would be very glad to see the video's of the people with the critic. There always will be improvement/development point left (luckily), but this looks rather neat.
I must keep my back straighter than he shows as I suffer from arthritic pains in my back.I am 72 years old My back would kill me if I did not My best is 6535 meters in 30.06 minutes at level 8 rowing machine
Tell the rower if you know him, he needs to concentrate on taking the stroke in three parts, drive with the legs, then power it with the body then arms in, keep spinning the hands dont pause at the catch, make sure he keeps his back straight throughout the stroke. The more straight lines your body is in the stronger it is, and tell him to stretch his hamstrings, a lot
This is a different style of rowing that is commonly taught in the US. Both the Adam a DDR style developed in German emphasize simultaneous activity of legs and trunk during the stroke.
Stern will always dip as sculler's weight moves to front chocks. Not a fault unless amplified by back lifted before catch, further driving the stern down. Can be minimized by boat design eg fuller stern volume or extra stern length from trim if regulation limits total length.
Obviously rowing at a very high level, however could be more dynamic at the back end with a more "elastic" extension in the early drive phase, and a focus on staying in the stroke with his body longer whilst his legs drive. A very physical style of rowing that has it's limits, but great none the less.
I think we both agree that the Ger 8+ and 4x rows well. They might look like they're pulling to you, but if that's just how you're describing them then that's fine by me.
Sorry for calling you in Xeno, Entschuldigung... it's just that Mueller 1996 is my absolute model for sculling ;^) together with Lange 1989 and Jaanson 2004. All people who know how to hang on the leg drive and keep the pull horizontal, although Lange's use of the back has probably been the inspiration for the *mis*use so many Germans seem to do today (IMHO of course)
i agree with NFLDColin, but as reefbreak69, i believe this is the result of german scull technique, although all this rowing technique must be apllied also when the stroke is high not in relatively low stroke training. at the end the final result is´t all that matters.
this is also why my back start to strain, always reminds me to make my legs take the load more and then my back feels like it has to work less to do to make the boat go....
Back is a little curved on recovery and that's why u are opening your back up early on the drive. Sit up taller and make sure to get legs down 90% before opening up the back
Does it say he was the world champion on the 1x? TheOzzass' judgement was right. He won the U23's on a 4x, which might explain why he rows like that ;)
perhaps... burying blades too deep (as seen by strain getting them out at the finish = slower back end) this only appears to be a problem in the 1st clip bad posture (hamstrings?) the back 'should' be fully over before 1/2 slide, definitely before 3/4 similarly, the back appears to open too soon in the drive late square = slightly rushed front end, having to 'grab' at the water. Again this gets better throughout the video
The technique of the first boy is overall very good, but (this is meant to be constructive critisism!!) maybe sit up a little straighter. Something that would make it alot easier is making your core and lower back stronger, but something that instantly helps is looking straight ahead of you instead of looking at your feet. One more thing, don’t forget the order. Maybe straighten your arms a bit later and make sure your back comes first. Before anyone attacks me with the comments saying “lol are you an olympic rower or what, do better yourself” etc i would like to say that i am far from an olympic rower, but i do have alot of experience and i only want to help.
I would recommend a more straight back,more usage of your uper body and your brush should go faster into the water(that is the most important).Also,you have to push faster your hands so you can slow as much as you can for bigger catch.
great video. I do have a question though.. After a rowing session my neck hurts for three days.. what do I do wrong? would appreciate your feedback very much.
I find that the Germans tend to open up with their backs too early, combining the leg drive and "lean back". This is evident in the video. By doing so, it appears that much of the leg drive is wasted.
not too bad except: he doesn't get any backsplash which means he is missing water on each stroke he opens up with his upperbody before his legs are completely down just some minor pointers to work on haha
Wenn der Titel "excellent rowing technique" ist... das oeffnet die Tuere fuer Kommentare. There is a lack of body preparation and therefore the timing of blade entry is off. The rowers are prematurely using their upper body. There is a lack of relaxation. Heck, I just saw that "theSculler" mentioned me below. Look I don't want to come across harsh with my comments but I am growing tired of people thinking that Tufte or Synek, or Hacker have great technique, they are just fast, hard working.
That's kinda wrong.. At catch position your back should be straight we bend it a little but he is curling his back,, it disbalances... The boat if he were on quads the whole balance of the boat would be upside down btw awesome video ;)
It would be nice if you didn't display the wrong technique for what to do with your head, that just confuses me while I'm rowing and makes me want to do what you showed us not to!
yeah, good call. Clearly the Germans need to figure their technique out, because currently their men's eight and men's quad just aren't moving well. Maybe you should email their coaches and let them know, because hey, they're not pushing..... Maybe you should demonstrate how they could improve?
hah ok i guess u are right but i dont think its fair many people on youtube do not row for university / high level teams, (they are all high school etc) yet correct him b/c it is their first year etc lol
The first athlete is very good, but his recovery is not allowing the boat to work 100% efficiently, the 2nd athlete is also very good but not allowing the boat to run fully and is missing the catch point slightly. Don't get me wrong they are great technicians, but not perfect
The back is opening up to soon and the arms are brought in to early
Yeah the part: Both angles should widen simultaniously is just wrong. Leg first, then back
@@mernisch8307 Exactly, when you open your bakc to soon you essentially shorten your stroke without putting extra power in te stroke
He is world champion, what are you?
Yes…world champ….but comment point is….he could be an even better world champ!!??
The majority of elite rowers open their backs later. I am not an elite rower and recently changed from opening the back earlier like the rowers in the video to opening later. I get extra speed by opening the back later.
Thanks for posting I always appreciate someone taking the time to offer advice and guidance
Eric reminds me my time 30 some years ago...! I have same body type and rowing style as he has. Unfortunately I don't have any video just few medals. His rowing is really good, You can find always something to fail, you can't be perfect, that is the reason why we do trainings and practices! Thank you for the video and keep up the good job Eric!! Somebody from Peter Kolbe era
Brilliant, very carefully edited to enable all of us to get some really useful ideas to implement next time on the water. Thank you for taking the time to share you skill with us.
Although an old video now.......this is IMO a VERY good summary of the points raised.....if you scull as good as shown here......all you have to do is train, train, train, and you critics will get as good.!!! Look how the boats run and it looks effortless as it should.
there are many different ways to move a single scull. Look at any olympic final and they all scull very differently. This is a very german style i.e. the opening up early..in crews boats as long as everyone is doing the same thing it matters far less. This is not the standard technique for many nations but it is how a lot of germans row also how a lot of athletes with greater elbow to shoulder strength compared % wise to knee to hip ratio (i.e. upper body strength)
I am a 59 yr old English guy struggling with knee issues since my teens. Next month I am starting a learning to row course. I have no great strength but have always had good rythum and timing. This video is inspirational...so elegant...so graceful. I will picture it in my mind whenever I can one I get started.
Great video and useful notes.
The most difficult for non-elite rowers (such as I am) is to take out the bad habits acquired while training with a no-so-good technique.
As I said before, great and instructive video.
Team-mates killing you when you splash them. So relatable v.v
I was stroking a double once briefly when I used to splash and the bow man absolutely drenched afterwards. He made sure it was the worst three hours of my life😫
Learn your team mates it is a water sport. Most rowers don't have enough back splash. It could be a bit to much on your side, but starting from there is not bad
I love all these NON-champions commenting 'poor technique' Lol Not every stroke is going to be spot on perfect even for Olympic gold medalists. But keep criticizing it's hilarious
when you say his technique is excellent you open yourself up to a lot of criticism. that's how the internet works
Yes, I'm happy for him and now I'm going to row with him ;-)
That is great !!!
excellent rowing technique *opens back at the catch*
I am a beginner so I quite appreciate watching technique of another. 2 more lesson and they'set me loose. thanks for posting.
Excellente vidéo; la prise de vue, les rameurs (superbes), le montage, les commentaires.... vraiment j'apprécie beaucoup !
To the people that think there is only one rowing style, you might consider the different strokes proposed Gringko, Adams, Rosenberg, et al.
@rdominadomina The problem is, you just can't keep your head on a straight horizontal line if you "catch with the back" as they all purposedly do in this video. This said, the first sculler (by far the best here) is nicely horizontal after the initial lifting (and also sends the boat away very nicely). PS if you like, search for the Athens 2004 finals and look at Juri Jaanson or the French 2x for examples of what you want to do
the widening of the angles is different from the British technique. Here you say widen the angles simultaneously, but where my coaches have always told me to widen first the leg angles and then the back.
I still think this is great stuff…3 years later!!!
I think it is a great video. I would like to say to all the people criticizing, what are your qualifications and experiences to allow yourselves to comment to alleged errors that you see in these rowing techniques? As last the best athletes are the ones who get the best scores not necessarily the ones with the most beautiful techniques.
Agree. I would be very glad to see the video's of the people with the critic. There always will be improvement/development point left (luckily), but this looks rather neat.
Super sculling video, I could watch Eric all day!! How I miss rowing when it is as good as this!!
I must keep my back straighter than he shows as I suffer from arthritic pains in my back.I am 72 years old My back would kill me if I did not
My best is 6535 meters in 30.06 minutes at level 8 rowing machine
Tell the rower if you know him, he needs to concentrate on taking the stroke in three parts, drive with the legs, then power it with the body then arms in, keep spinning the hands dont pause at the catch, make sure he keeps his back straight throughout the stroke. The more straight lines your body is in the stronger it is, and tell him to stretch his hamstrings, a lot
Great advice for this world champion, he needs your wise words to guide him.
This is a different style of rowing that is commonly taught in the US. Both the Adam a DDR style developed in German emphasize simultaneous activity of legs and trunk during the stroke.
Excellent technique video; bonus: on screen comments! 8/2023
Stern will always dip as sculler's weight moves to front chocks. Not a fault unless amplified by back lifted before catch, further driving the stern down. Can be minimized by boat design eg fuller stern volume or extra stern length from trim if regulation limits total length.
Would like to see the stern side on . both moving the boat well. need better posture. last clip, stern lifting at the catch 👍👍👍👍👍👍
Heute sitzt der Bub im Deutschlandachter :)
Viel Erfolg weiterhin!
Obviously rowing at a very high level, however could be more dynamic at the back end with a more "elastic" extension in the early drive phase, and a focus on staying in the stroke with his body longer whilst his legs drive. A very physical style of rowing that has it's limits, but great none the less.
Thanks Eric.
He's opening early: by the time his legs are straight he's already leaning back as far as he'll go.
Jeff Austin his body is coming down before his legs finish
I think we both agree that the Ger 8+ and 4x rows well. They might look like they're pulling to you, but if that's just how you're describing them then that's fine by me.
Excellent rower in not easy water
Sorry for calling you in Xeno, Entschuldigung... it's just that Mueller 1996 is my absolute model for sculling ;^) together with Lange 1989 and Jaanson 2004. All people who know how to hang on the leg drive and keep the pull horizontal, although Lange's use of the back has probably been the inspiration for the *mis*use so many Germans seem to do today (IMHO of course)
I just started rowing 2 month ago. great video. keep it coming!
This video is really helpful, hope i can row as good as Eric some day.
2:32 He starts the drive before his blade is submerged. This decreases the max power he can produce
Beautiful to watch.
These rowers are from Germany, Hamburg
They have different trainer. Depending on where they are rowing squad.
i agree with NFLDColin, but as reefbreak69, i believe this is the result of german scull technique, although all this rowing technique must be apllied also when the stroke is high not in relatively low stroke training. at the end the final result is´t all that matters.
this is also why my back start to strain, always reminds me to make my legs take the load more and then my back feels like it has to work less to do to make the boat go....
Back is a little curved on recovery and that's why u are opening your back up early on the drive. Sit up taller and make sure to get legs down 90% before opening up the back
Olympic champion mate. Whatever hes doing works thats all that matters
strong and direct at the catch
Different style to us. Leave it at that.
Does it say he was the world champion on the 1x? TheOzzass' judgement was right. He won the U23's on a 4x, which might explain why he rows like that ;)
perhaps...
burying blades too deep (as seen by strain getting them out at the finish = slower back end) this only appears to be a problem in the 1st clip
bad posture (hamstrings?)
the back 'should' be fully over before 1/2 slide, definitely before 3/4
similarly, the back appears to open too soon in the drive
late square = slightly rushed front end, having to 'grab' at the water. Again this gets better throughout the video
The technique of the first boy is overall very good, but (this is meant to be constructive critisism!!) maybe sit up a little straighter. Something that would make it alot easier is making your core and lower back stronger, but something that instantly helps is looking straight ahead of you instead of looking at your feet. One more thing, don’t forget the order. Maybe straighten your arms a bit later and make sure your back comes first.
Before anyone attacks me with the comments saying “lol are you an olympic rower or what, do better yourself” etc i would like to say that i am far from an olympic rower, but i do have alot of experience and i only want to help.
coolest little video - loved it. Kinda sexy watching the last part - THE CATCH...!! Great video.
I love the Carl Doughlas
I dont get why more people dont use these boats
just starting rowing..this was a great help!!
Cool
yes, but change a few things to all couple of years
What difference do you see?
i don't see any backsplash,although im not sure its part of sculling
its peretty good, too bad that in a race no one cares about technique
Mzahaka1313
Definitely...
I would recommend a more straight back,more usage of your uper body and your brush should go faster into the water(that is the most important).Also,you have to push faster your hands so you can slow as much as you can for bigger catch.
he needs to get his arms out straight in front of him before he goes back up the slide
He is world champion, what are you?
@@dakotalake9084 lol why u so triggered this video is literally saying "rate my technique "
great video. I do have a question though.. After a rowing session my neck hurts for three days.. what do I do wrong?
would appreciate your feedback very much.
+Jeremy Unterweger just relax your shoulders and neck while rowing. there shouldnt be any strain in your neck
What does it mean to open up?
I find that the Germans tend to open up with their backs too early, combining the leg drive and "lean back". This is evident in the video. By doing so, it appears that much of the leg drive is wasted.
Body is moving before legs engage.
thx for this great video!
This is Eric Johannesen... fucking world Champion on the u23 level. None of you have the right to criticize him and tell him his form sucks.
not too bad except:
he doesn't get any backsplash which means he is missing water on each stroke
he opens up with his upperbody before his legs are completely down
just some minor pointers to work on haha
that is the german style of rowing
Putting your oar too late in the water. Maybe you should practice to feel like your oar fall in the water before being in maximum lenght
Um dia eu chego lá ...
fantastic
like he is starting too use his back before his legs are all the way down
where are you from? And who's your coach
Thanks, algorithm
Is it just me or is that Magnus Carlsen demonstrating the scull technique?
the Garmans certainly have another rowing technique then us Norwegians..
Wenn der Titel "excellent rowing technique" ist... das oeffnet die Tuere fuer Kommentare. There is a lack of body preparation and therefore the timing of blade entry is off. The rowers are prematurely using their upper body. There is a lack of relaxation. Heck, I just saw that "theSculler" mentioned me below. Look I don't want to come across harsh with my comments but I am growing tired of people thinking that Tufte or Synek, or Hacker have great technique, they are just fast, hard working.
belle technique !
That's kinda wrong.. At catch position your back should be straight we bend it a little but he is curling his back,, it disbalances... The boat if he were on quads the whole balance of the boat would be upside down btw awesome video ;)
he seems like he can't hold his body rock until half slide, he is opening up his body before his legs are down.
It would be nice if you didn't display the wrong technique for what to do with your head, that just confuses me while I'm rowing and makes me want to do what you showed us not to!
it looks to me like your pinching your arms at the catch aswell your left hand should be just infront and below your right looks good though
The hands need to come out quicker
yeah, good call. Clearly the Germans need to figure their technique out, because currently their men's eight and men's quad just aren't moving well. Maybe you should email their coaches and let them know, because hey, they're not pushing..... Maybe you should demonstrate how they could improve?
A bit more back swing and a faster return would be good
Great stuff johanessen, really excellent maybe a stronger finish? Stiill great!
It's not really that helpful and there are some errors with regards technique
good boat run but do more core work so you can row with a straight back
He is world champion, what are you?
MMM... he use the back in the atack... use hands! not the back!! my english is bad.. sorry!
hah ok i guess u are right but i dont think its fair many people on youtube do not row for university / high level teams, (they are all high school etc) yet correct him b/c it is their first year etc lol
Sorry, but I had a hard time reading the captions, contrast issues.
back opens too early on nearly all the scullers in this vid, some need to sit up taller at the catch.
Yes that's true
The first athlete is very good, but his recovery is not allowing the boat to work 100% efficiently, the 2nd athlete is also very good but not allowing the boat to run fully and is missing the catch point slightly. Don't get me wrong they are great technicians, but not perfect
I agree wit you
On the first rower
he is digging his blades too far into the water
prise de l'appui et creation de cette derniere avec elevation des epaules!? on apprend pas cela dans les ecoles d'aviron!!!!!!!
hijo el primer video la cabeza esta mal la preparacion de la pala tbm sakale eso y te Creo ;)
He should be just a bit straighter
R O W I N G
No disrespect, however looking at videos of the German Mens 8+ and 4x, there's a lot of pull and no push.
Mener du the germans Vemund?