Tig Welding Aluminum Thick and Thin using an HTP Tig Welder
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this weekly video is in response to a lot of questions about HTP tig welders.
Are they good? What is the max thickness of aluminum that an HTP invertig 221 can handle? etc...etc...
So in this video, I got hold of an HTP tig unit and did some welding on .080" thick 3003 aluminum as well as some really thick 6061 bar stock. I used a helium/argon mix for the thick aluminum and it got me over the hump.
"Every time I hear that a little part of me dies" hahaha
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3:29 i would have contaminated my tungsten 20 times already.
BisdremisKostas Me too!
2 years and counting my 221 is still going strong. Just ordered a CK 9 and gas lens parts for snaking my way through a Chump Car rollcage this weekend. IMO I've tended to like the CK torches. Their smaller size, duty ratings, and superflex cables pulled me to the dark side :)
I emailed Jeff the other day and found out the Dual Voltage 221DV version has a power factor of .99 so you can run it on some pretty tiny breakers.
I have the dual voltage 221. I actually bought it over the standard 221 because my 220v circuits are 30 amp and aren't enough for the standard 221. I can go full power at 220 amps on the machine and never trip the 30a breaker. The machine is awesome.
1:10 I work at a chemical plant, and I can tell you with 100% certainty, Acetone goes straight through those little disposable blue gloves bro.
Hi Jody great video I know this is old but when you change the EP and EN amplitude it’s only one that gets changed. If you move say EN to 50% the EP auto adjusts to 100% and vice versa. Also the dynasty 350 is amps you adjust and with the 221 it is the percentage you adjust so it’s different. With the miller you can adjust both EP and EN but not with the HTP. Just wanted to let you know in case folks didn’t understand by the settings you showed. It’s a little misleading. Basically you can be in EN 50% of the time and EP 100% of the time. Great video as always though, thanks for showing.
the tubes were ground like that when I got them. But you are correct . Never grind aluminum on a bench grinder or you get a face full of wheel ...but there are grinding wheels for angle grinders specifically designed for grinding aluminum. Too rough a grind, and it shows up in the weld.
If it was for a structural purpose, I would have preheated to about 200f and also beveled to get more strength, and made larger fillet welds. The print only called for a 1/8" ( 3.2mm) fillet weld all the way around.
oops, thanks for that correction. you are right, I am wearing blue nitrile gloves. late night video narrating makes for some dumb mistakes.
You are the man! Just bought a new machine and your videos are helping me to get used to welding aluminum.The way you
Explain things are easy to understand.you are a big help with the machine settings.Just ordered a lense kit from Weldmongers and looking forward to more videos.I am 78 and still learning.Thank you for all that you do.
there are flap discs made for grinding/sanding aluminum one company that makes them is lehighvalleyabrasives .
also CGW abrasives makes similar flap disc where something in the disc lubricates and prevents loading up
its more like 1.3 amp/thou for aluminum for the first several seconds, but depending on the size of the part, once the parts heats up can change to way less than that. a foot pedal is the way to go for aluminum jobs.
The torch cable held up fine for the 10 inches or so of weld at 220 amps. I wouldn't recommend continuous welding at 220 amps with any air cooled torch but this CK #17 really surprised me. Its not the flex loc torch, just a plain 17 with no valve.
not really needed on mild steel or stainless. and helium has become very expensive
What kind of camera and or lens are you using?Its like I'm standing in the booth with you.I bet the welding students love you and the administration hates you.
It does take a lot of practice but the way you show how it takes a lot less time☺
MOST EXPERIENCED< MOST KNOWLEDGABLE, BEST WELDING VIDS ON TH-cam< JODY IS KICK@SS!! BUY A TIG FINGER & LIKE &SHARE HIS VIDS!
I've had mine coming up on a year now. Great machine and I was pretty happy to find a CK R torch and massive ground clamp in the box. A low profile pedal is nice too.
FYI, the units are italian made by Stel Itl and the insides were very nice when I popped mine open. I've found some interesting tid bits too by looking through their manuals like that VRD system. Holding down stick mode toggles it. My earlier manual missed it.
Sweet work as always Jody :)
I like the torch & foot pedal better on the HTP. both units weld very good.
Hey Jody,
Have you ever thought about doing a review on Fronius TIG/Stick welders?
"And hear that sound?
I´m 55 so whenever I hear that a little part of me die."
I laughed my ass of. xD
Please never sellout!
Hi, & thank you for these tip & tricks, let me ask u, for a first time welder what welding machine do you recommend for someone staring out its a passion & hobby for I welded in school when I was younger now I'm looking to buy one & start welding can you recommend something tnk you for these videos
I'd like to see that shootout too! I'm not sure if it would be fair to compare a $2500 HTP welder against an $1800 Everlast welder though.
Thanks for the review! $2500 is a lot more affordable than the $3500 Miller I had my eye on.
I accomplished welding my first valve cover today, small project 2 aluminum fittings for a brether tank, And I did well for my first time. Thank you for the tipsntrics.
Nicely done!
I've had my 221H for about 6 months now and love it. Had a dynasty 200dx before the HTP and found the HTP to be a far better value and a slightly better machine all around. The Pyrex cup kit I purchased from HTP is also pretty handy.
hi Jody I recently purchased a lotos 200 ac/dc tig welder I have a transom motor mount to build from 3/8 aluminium do u think this machine is capable of doing this work? ?
Nice job Jody. If that last piece that came into the shop was for a structural purpose, would you have torched the aluminum to get it hotter to work? Seems that I remember an old video of yours where you used heat to get the aluminum to not suck all the heat out of your weld.
Is it danger for cancer ? Can you do it without heavy glooves ? Thank you
"I'm 55, and whenever I hear that, a little part of me dies" did not expect that lmao.
Lets see a weld on 1/4 aluminum to 3/4 aluminum t joint with 175 amps no helium and using pre heat to make it possible. That is what is coming up for me... Impossible? Hope not as I got to get this done and only have a Lincoln square wave tig 175 pro. It has to work. If I am not able to get it to work I'm not sure what I am going to do I don't have 3000 plus to throw at a new tig.
yes i have that same thing going on, my gums pulling back away from my teeth and teeth that have whole chunks just breaking out of them. then i just found out today that the 2% thoriated tungstens are radioactive! they didn't teach us old timers that in welding school! we just knew about how not to end up blind by using #12 gold mirrored lens and to drink milk after welding galvanize to neutralize then zinc, you can taste that (metal fever.) they told us too much zinc and you get alzheimer's.
may be, i only spent about 10 minutes w/ it at a welding expo/ miller demo trailer display. it was 110v/220v switchable input,wireless remote foot pedal, about 17" deep, 10" high, 5-6" wide, said dxp on it. better look back in my miller catalog, i'm sure you're correct. thanks. oh and the miller rep. told me the wireless (radio?) foot pedal costs about $1000.00 w/ it's receiver/transmitter assy's.
i wondered about your comment because aluminum is my specialty and i've recently noticed my teeth are deteriorating real badly. had never put those 2 things together but that makes sense, it seems like that would play havoc with fillings that are metal. will be at the dentist next week, gonna ask & see if he's ever heard of this. thank you.
I think if you used a cloth polishing wheel on a grinder with some mothers aluminum polish it should make it shine like chrome when you are done. That is how I do it. Make sure you don't have to weld on it any more though, because man is it a bitch to get the weld to work after you apply it and buff it. LOL
What size tungsten are you using on the 1 inch thick piece. I kept blowing the tip off my 3/32 tungsten welding over 200 amps guess ill get some 1/8 today. Have you tried the G3 tungsten its some kind of special blend. Keeps a better tip than the thor. Try it you might like it
As great as always!
Very good recording by camera
hi there I need advice, I have a pan weld ac/dc 200 machine. want to do aluminium welding with it, on what setting must I start with. first time to do aluminium welding. this welder looks like the east wood ac/dc welder.
thanks freek
That looks like a valve cover for gm in-line 6 250-292 engines. That by any chance from me.hotrod6 from dania beach Florida?
Jody,
Whats the best way to "grind" Aluminum in order to clean it? For instance if I wanted to remove a bad looking weld? Regular angle grinder or something else? Thanks!
Hi, If you're on a budget at all you could do worse than an TIG Welder from R-TECH Welding. I've got one which I bought after teaching myself to weld and its been good.
Thank you, I recently acquired the same machine. I'm learning but so far, I am very impressed.
Any videos using older transformer welders? Aerowave or Syncrowave? Preferably Aerowave ;)
very good job. what is the price your new machine. what link for purchase? thanks
Acetone is not toxic. It's just over dries your skin, nothing more. In some cases acetone even generates inside an organism.
Dear SIr, can you explain what kind off tungstun rod and ciramic cup,,please explain the colour code or numer
lol you had me laughing so hard at the glove part. thank you
Jody you make awesome videos. Thank you for all you do .I have been watching you for years
What thickness of aluminum? Alloy? Looks like .065…
How's the machine? Is it better then the lincoln squarewave tig 200?
know what's better for residue than ACETONE? BUTANE. no joke. and great for cleaning off plastics and 'better' for you too...
On a serious note....
Rule of thumb for TIG on steel was 1 amp/thou right?
Is there a similar one for aluminum?
Jodie if I was to go out now and buy a tig welder what one would u buy if you were only starting to learn tig
And how did that affect your teeth? Am asking this as a serious question, I've never heard of that. Thanks.
Snap!!! Bow chick a wow wow! Hey doc ;)
Why not use naptha, which is the same thing as lighter fluid to clean the glue residue etc. off with.
Hey Jody, any thoughts on AHP Alpha-Tig 200X? Any plan for a review? Seems to get good reviews, but I was holding out for your opinion. I literally take notes when watching your vids, and what you do, I do. I was hoping to know what you thought before I pulled the trigger. Home hobbyist, mostly motorcycle parts. Thanks for any inputs.
That's a great point, to clean before you brush, ha ha.
Could you use nail polish remover if you have no acetone? It's an acetone based one if that helps.
i got a aluminum evaporator can it weld people tell me it can't weld im open to anyone suggestion can it weld or not
Is a TIG welder good for auto body applications where 20 ga. sheetmetal is butt-welded?
Thanks.
I heard HTP is a pretty good company
Hey man thanks for your vids been a massive help
Jody,
I keep watching these videos after I have had a rough time practicing in the shop. Each YEAR they make more sense. Thanks for the help.
Videos on flux core with t-joints & butt joints done in all positions could be useful.
Acetone dissolves latex gloves in an INSTANT. You have to use the blue nitrile gloves (like the ones you're wearing).
orange oil removes the tape residue but is less toxic, and the fumes are not toxic.
I think you have your welders confused. The Diversion is a fixed freq machine.
I hope yu take the same precautions when grinding the thoriated tungsten tips?
I have a TOPWELL ALUTIG 250HD that also has the amplitude feature, I'm curious to know Jody what are the benefits of amplitude? thanks
I have a 221 and like it. For the $, I think it is hard to beat. I really enjoy your videos and have learned a lot from them. I also winced when you snapped the glove. I dont know if the youngsters realize there is a full exam required for welding certification. ;)
Tugten color to aluminum?
Fascinating! Have you ever used, or recommend a clear Pyrex cup? Also, I hear you mention grinding aluminum. I was always told to sand or file, but that aluminum would clog a grinding wheel leading to it grenading. Thoughts? Dad was a 30 year welding shop teacher. I'm just a hobbyist.
i got to try the diversion with the wireless foot pedal, it worked 90 feet from the machine with (obviously) no wire cable. i would think in a multi -machine work site that wireless foot pedals would be a problem, cross communication between different pedals/machines. the diversion did make an excellent aluminum weld. i turned it up to maximum frequency,about 300 i think, it was LOUD but absolutely perfect weld (and quick too).
timm white you must mean dynasty because the diversion is a turd
I looked at an HTP 205 before I went for the much cheaper diversion 165, The HtP is a nice machine and really liked the light weight torch and cable. The diversion has worked out good though plenty for what I need and nice and simple.
I have never been able to fully master aluminum welding maybe the machine did not sit right with me, do you use straight thoriated rod,also I notice you have more of a point than a ball on your rod.. Can you tell me the type of welder it seems a lot smoother tuning than the ones I have used. I plan on watching all your videos thanks.
ferstuck37 all inverters can hold a point you prob use a transformer
I'm rapidly approaching 53, i'm dreading my next check-up...
At the place I work at they would have told me to weld something like this with a spool gun and make it look good. Spool gun is great but at times it is like using a sledge hammer to tune a piano. Am thinking of changing jobs due to the fact they will not allow me to practice other forms of welding process on more delicate / thinner materials. Received prints for a stainless steel pipe job requesting full penetration welds. Again, would not let me use TIG for the root.
Cuál color de electrodo se utiliza para aluminio?
Puedes usar El Azul o El morado
Good vid
Jody, have you tried the brown tipped zirconia 'tungstens' yet? i've been using them for about 2 years and find the advantages of less 'whiskering' on the ball formed when ac welding on aluminum, brass, etc. and if you get in really close with 2% or pure tungsten the aluminum will sometimes accumulate on the electode after about 1 hour. Not so much on the zirconia(zirconium?) Also I'm using the copper lead in/arc start trick and tig finger with great results. Keep up the great uploads & thanks.
Well done video. Informative, nice tips, and excellent tempo. I enjoyed watching.
excellent question. i've had good results with the 60 grit dremel 'barrels' and the 'maroon' scotchbrite discs from cgw and walter abrasives. the 'barrels' are also available for the air and electric pencil grinders too but watch the rpm's as they'll fly apart. i'm using these for cracked and busted aluminum castings and adding boyesen and v-force reeds/blocks to vintage motocross bike cylinders, though for heavy grinding nothing beats the carbide or hss burr tool(watch those sharp chips!).
"Butt seriously" I got it... I am 63... But seriously, liked the video. Thanks!
Hey jody, great video. I do tig work on 316L stainless welding big spirals together. I fit them up by beveling both ends with a land (like a double V groove). I get full penetration but have been running into trouble keeping the other side of the joint clean making it difficult to put down a decent weld. Any tips?
Low freq for the thicker material with the 200DX is a great tip to pass on. I was frustrated welding some 0.125" fittings on 7/8" plate. After I dropped the frequency to 50 Hz, I finally achieved good wetting on the plate and then walked it into the fittings. Thank goodness for the TIG finger and a watercooled torch ;o) Thanks Jody!
Wow thank you, never seen tig weld done up close like that before, looks too easy. I can arc weld, mig weld & braze weld pretty much beginner level but tig looks real special.
Great video Jody. I have a question, Is there any good way that you have found to clean the white powder-like oxidization around the aluminum welds on metal that is pre-polished?
Hello dear i thank you very much for your big work that you offer in TH-cam .
Plesse i need your help of choosing tig Welde
r that cost less and do the work of recumbent trike welding
I have an HTP 221 myself with a water cooled and air cooled torch. Great machine. I have been watching Jody's videos for a couple of years now. I used to work in the coal industry as a welder but I got laid off a year ago. I was blessed enough to have enough money saved at that time to buy this machine. With it and Jody's videos I was able to pass a 6G tig test on 2" carbon steel after just a few weeks of practice. I had never held a tig torch in my life.
the problem i seem to have is the arc just goes to one part of the material and i can't get the heat where i want it to go. what am i doing wrong?
Hi, great video, I have this welder and I love it, I have had a hard time getting 1/2" aluminum to puddle running straight argon. I have read that helium-argon gives a hotter weld that straight argon so how much would you say is due to lowering the frequency and how much due to the gas? I didn't know about the frequency so I will have to give that a try as I was running at a much higher frequency.
Thanks for an awesome video, very nice videoshoot! :)
very clear and good explanation of everyting. even for me as I am from sweden, but everything was very undersundable! :)
Are you looking for an apprentice :)
You have a gift! Watching until I can afford the equip
Isn't the weld he said he's not to sure of called a rosette weld?
So thanks Jody!!! Also I have a couple of tig fingers. I used them on my pipe test. At that point I couldn't walk the cup. They're very useful in the field, because he ain't lying, there are many times when cup walking is not possible. Anyway, I wanted to say with God, a positive attitude, others can find work in a skilled trade like I did. Keep em coming Jody! You do good work!
Hey I really enjoy watching your videos and always learn something from them even being an aluminum welder myself but the only thing I would have to say is having taught welders I noticed that the sequence in which you assemble the the torch head is crucial to determine issues. I always start with the collet body or gas lense first then collet then cup and back cap last so there is no gap when the torch parts mate together
Great video as always. I always wondered why I still get the little black specs at the top of the surface every now and then. Drives me crazy. The weld will look great until it pops up.
Hey Jody you should do a video on the D.O.T certification can't find any videos on it and I want to see how it's done because I will be taking it in a few months.
I didnt know mixing helium and argon would help with the amperage im going to have to try it one day im using a Eastwood 200amps i fabricate t top and the pads are 3/8 thick