Good amount of work! Looks like good work too. In mine, I'll probably add a fan to it eventually if I see it getting that hot. My mppt is laid out horizontally on the surface, which the booklet says not to do, but I'm guessing it's because of heat dissipation, so I'll just add a fan. I needed to save room above, so with my design it needed to be flat.
Props to you! That looks like it took a TON of strategic planning. Looks great and I am sure your kids will appreciate being able to run all the things!
Laurie you’re funny…. The board that I am assembling is the computer system that is going to control our solar panels. I guess I should have explained that a little better. As I’m writing this, I’m thinking that maybe I should put out another video to explain what’s going on. Someone else mentioned that I never circled back to see what those blue things were in the parking lot. Lol 😂 whoops
Remember every termination as resistance and losses also with solar panels that could be an issue on cloudy days one thing to note redundancy and protection is okay but if you haven’t selected fuses and things like that such that one blows before the others it may just be a bit hard to find out what needs replacing
Thanks Rob! When you get ready to do yours, let me know. There are a couple things that I have learned and would do different. I’m excited to see progress on Daddy’s wreck! 😊
J'aime beaucoup votre ingéniosité en matière d'énergie. Bon il va falloir penser à réguler la consommation en général sur le bateau lorsque vous serez en mer, parceque là, la priorité c'est la sécurité donc d'abord assurer le bon fonctionnement des équipement de navigation avant une partie de playstation ou de Xbox ou de nintendo 😁😁😉😉. Sinon oui bien ventiller les lieux d'énergie, l'électricité est la première cause d'incendie sur les voiliers. Bises à toute votre famille et les animaux de ma Bretagne Française. 😘😘😍😍🥰🥰
Hello, Yes, we plan to conserve energy when sailing. However, we hope to generate enough power with Solar to keep the batteries charged. We would much rather be swimming or exploring than playing xbox. Cheers, Corey
yes the load relay can be used to switch on a fan. in fact it can be programmed to use it's internal temperature of the controller as the switch point. it has worked well for 3+ years for me. yonwill want to connect all the controllers on to a network with a Victron Venus OS device. this can either be victron sourced or a Raspberry PI. ( see off grid garage u tube channel ). According to ABCY wiring standards the panels themselves don't need to be fused.
Hi Brian, Thanks for taking time to answer my questions! I'm happy to hear you have used a fan with the MPPTS. We have been using Victron Connect with the phone app for our other Victron Devices. I'm not sure if Victron Venus is different... But I've always wanted to play around with a Raspberry pie, so I'll check out the Off Grid Garage channel. I guess I misunderstood the ABCY about the fusing... Either way, I bought the fuses and might as well install them. Thanks for your help! If you think of anything else I may need to know, please reach out. Cheers- Corey
@@SaltyEscape th-cam.com/video/eHwjE_hDVS4/w-d-xo.html Here is PYS video on the subject of fuses for solar. The way to think about this is instantaneous power delivery. What happens if you short the solar panels output together? And the answer is that the panels heat up a little more but basically generate almost no power. And many panels are shipped like this. Now.. more fuses is not quite better as a fuse.. by design.. is a restive lossy link and their installation represents a whole additional failure point for the design. The way you have it wired the per controller breakers are needed because you drop wire guage from the battery wire after the bus bar. The wire from the batteries to the solar will need a high current breaker to protect it - installed within 175mm of the battery(s) primary terminal. I'm guessing 200A @ 5m so 3|0 or 4|0.. because you are wanting to scavenge every joule you can. -- Re networking everything.. having a single configuration point for all the systems is wonderful. And wiring it all together means that the all the controllers know what each other one is doing and change mode together, use one battery temperature reading. You still need the per controler voltage sence lines, but they are small guage.
If your putting up new solar panels keeping them cool is vital to maintaining peak power and extended operating life. Strictly speaking hybrid PVT panels with liquid cooling to the backs have vastly improved and extended performance.
Hi Clive! That sounds like very “cool” technology 😉😉. We have already purchased our panels. We will be installing 4 - 340 watt Panasonic panels and 4 - 110 watt flexible panels. We are so happy that we decided to purchase the panels a year ago because now they are either unavailable or 2-3 times the price. 😬 Cheers- Corey
Just remember don't disconnect batteries from charge controllers if panels are still connected it tends let the magical smoke out. Panels disconnect first and connect last is the rule.
You definitely want forced air cooling (computer fans) to cool the mppt’s , power out linearly goes down when they heat up and it doesn’t look like you have a ton of airflow there The load output is definitely a possibility, but you may just run them off the busbars with a temp sensor so they are independent from the mppt’s Computer fans draw very little amps and assist creating more output from the mppt’s as they keep them cooler
Hi Rene and Joline! Thank you so much for taking time to answer my questions! I actually feel A bit foolish… I hadn’t even considered attaching the computer fans to the bus bars. Obviously that option makes the most sense. I’m going to go ahead and buy the equipment I will need and start the installation for the fans. That space does have a vent to the exterior because the lead acid batteries were previously housed in that space. When I build a door to finish off that cabinet I’ll be sure to incorporate ventilation in my design! Are you guys still making videos? Thank you so much again! Corey
I think we’re ‘between’ video’s 😉 about a year ago we bought a lagoon 42 in Croatia and our now back on Bonaire on our way to the San blas, sailing got in the way and as we already visited and filmed most places we were the last 12 months we took a break , I think we’ll start again soon !
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Hey Guys! Hope you enjoy the video! We had a lot of fun making this one, as well as the new brain project!
Good morning from "Down Under", Western Australia
Thanks for waking up so early!
Good amount of work! Looks like good work too. In mine, I'll probably add a fan to it eventually if I see it getting that hot. My mppt is laid out horizontally on the surface, which the booklet says not to do, but I'm guessing it's because of heat dissipation, so I'll just add a fan. I needed to save room above, so with my design it needed to be flat.
Wow....its almost like I knew this video was coming, or you made it because of our last convo. Either way, I'm taking credit #SelfFive
Lol. 🧐
Props to you! That looks like it took a TON of strategic planning. Looks great and I am sure your kids will appreciate being able to run all the things!
Thanks guys! Behind the scenes there were multiple trial and errors. We’re excited to see you guys out on the water!
Not sure what you were even doing but it looked nice hope it works as you expect. Keep up the good job. I'll bet you saved a lot of money.
Laurie you’re funny…. The board that I am assembling is the computer system that is going to control our solar panels. I guess I should have explained that a little better. As I’m writing this, I’m thinking that maybe I should put out another video to explain what’s going on. Someone else mentioned that I never circled back to see what those blue things were in the parking lot. Lol 😂 whoops
Remember every termination as resistance and losses also with solar panels that could be an issue on cloudy days one thing to note redundancy and protection is okay but if you haven’t selected fuses and things like that such that one blows before the others it may just be a bit hard to find out what needs replacing
Thanks
Thanks
Very interesting video. Great job!
Thanks guys!
Nice job! I wish I could work as fast as the two of you! 😁
Lol. I wish I could work as fast as the video shows us working
dude! Awesome job!!! Wanna come do mine?? Lol.
That will work out great!!
Btw, the little fan , is a great idea!!
Thanks Rob! When you get ready to do yours, let me know. There are a couple things that I have learned and would do different. I’m excited to see progress on Daddy’s wreck! 😊
Looks great. I’ve looked at the load switch never did it but it should work great
Thanks Barratt! Another viewer suggested I just use the bus bars on my board… That would be much easier!
Good morning from NZ. 😁
Good Morning Jono! Thanks for including us in your morning.
you guys are doing a fantastic job with this refit. What are you working backgrounds? Trade? Career?
Thank you! We put a lot of care and thought into our Refit. We both work in healthcare. We've always been handy. :)
Flux Capacitor looks great!
Lol. Thanks Lance. I doubt I can get the boat up to 88 mph! 😂
Good video but you never explained what the big blue things in the yard were.
Lol. I know 🤦♂️
J'aime beaucoup votre ingéniosité en matière d'énergie. Bon il va falloir penser à réguler la consommation en général sur le bateau lorsque vous serez en mer, parceque là, la priorité c'est la sécurité donc d'abord assurer le bon fonctionnement des équipement de navigation avant une partie de playstation ou de Xbox ou de nintendo 😁😁😉😉. Sinon oui bien ventiller les lieux d'énergie, l'électricité est la première cause d'incendie sur les voiliers. Bises à toute votre famille et les animaux de ma Bretagne Française. 😘😘😍😍🥰🥰
Hello, Yes, we plan to conserve energy when sailing. However, we hope to generate enough power with Solar to keep the batteries charged. We would much rather be swimming or exploring than playing xbox. Cheers, Corey
yes the load relay can be used to switch on a fan. in fact it can be programmed to use it's internal temperature of the controller as the switch point. it has worked well for 3+ years for me.
yonwill want to connect all the controllers on to a network with a Victron Venus OS device. this can either be victron sourced or a Raspberry PI. ( see off grid garage u tube channel ).
According to ABCY wiring standards the panels themselves don't need to be fused.
Hi Brian, Thanks for taking time to answer my questions! I'm happy to hear you have used a fan with the MPPTS. We have been using Victron Connect with the phone app for our other Victron Devices. I'm not sure if Victron Venus is different... But I've always wanted to play around with a Raspberry pie, so I'll check out the Off Grid Garage channel.
I guess I misunderstood the ABCY about the fusing... Either way, I bought the fuses and might as well install them. Thanks for your help! If you think of anything else I may need to know, please reach out. Cheers- Corey
@@SaltyEscape
th-cam.com/video/eHwjE_hDVS4/w-d-xo.html
Here is PYS video on the subject of fuses for solar.
The way to think about this is instantaneous power delivery. What happens if you short the solar panels output together? And the answer is that the panels heat up a little more but basically generate almost no power.
And many panels are shipped like this.
Now.. more fuses is not quite better as a fuse.. by design.. is a restive lossy link and their installation represents a whole additional failure point for the design.
The way you have it wired the per controller breakers are needed because you drop wire guage from the battery wire after the bus bar.
The wire from the batteries to the solar will need a high current breaker to protect it - installed within 175mm of the battery(s) primary terminal. I'm guessing 200A @ 5m so 3|0 or 4|0.. because you are wanting to scavenge every joule you can.
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Re networking everything.. having a single configuration point for all the systems is wonderful. And wiring it all together means that the all the controllers know what each other one is doing and change mode together, use one battery temperature reading.
You still need the per controler voltage sence lines, but they are small guage.
@@SaltyEscape
Yet a lot of people do fuse them🤔 so escalate the search to someone who designs the stuff and sets the standards. ie Dr Nigel Calder...
If your putting up new solar panels keeping them cool is vital to maintaining peak power and extended operating life.
Strictly speaking hybrid PVT panels with liquid cooling to the backs have vastly improved and extended performance.
Hi Clive! That sounds like very “cool” technology 😉😉. We have already purchased our panels. We will be installing 4 - 340 watt Panasonic panels and 4 - 110 watt flexible panels. We are so happy that we decided to purchase the panels a year ago because now they are either unavailable or 2-3 times the price. 😬
Cheers- Corey
Just remember don't disconnect batteries from charge controllers if panels are still connected it tends let the magical smoke out.
Panels disconnect first and connect last is the rule.
THANK YOU!! I did not know this…. You definitely want to keep the smoke inside. 😉
You definitely want forced air cooling (computer fans) to cool the mppt’s , power out linearly goes down when they heat up and it doesn’t look like you have a ton of airflow there
The load output is definitely a possibility, but you may just run them off the busbars with a temp sensor so they are independent from the mppt’s
Computer fans draw very little amps and assist creating more output from the mppt’s as they keep them cooler
Hi Rene and Joline! Thank you so much for taking time to answer my questions! I actually feel A bit foolish… I hadn’t even considered attaching the computer fans to the bus bars. Obviously that option makes the most sense. I’m going to go ahead and buy the equipment I will need and start the installation for the fans. That space does have a vent to the exterior because the lead acid batteries were previously housed in that space. When I build a door to finish off that cabinet I’ll be sure to incorporate ventilation in my design!
Are you guys still making videos?
Thank you so much again!
Corey
I think we’re ‘between’ video’s 😉 about a year ago we bought a lagoon 42 in Croatia and our now back on Bonaire on our way to the San blas, sailing got in the way and as we already visited and filmed most places we were the last 12 months we took a break , I think we’ll start again soon !
I'll take a guess at the blue things..... Solar arch!!! So exciting!!!
Sounds like a guess from experience. We tell all… tonight!! 😊
As a former Navy sailor I feel that I should beg you to stop saying "starBOARD", it's pronounced "STAR-berd"
😆 ok, I’ll work on that.