I haven't been able to stop thinking about this thing! Out of stock everywhere but I got the demo from Perfect Circuit. Had to have this, just bananas!!
So I've had the Oneiroi for about week now, and couple things I have learned, first don't overdrive the inputs as it will sound bad on most things you do, have to pay attention to the input level LED and try and keep it in the green. Second is to make very small subtle changes to the controls for the best results. Initially I was too aggressive with the controls and also did not have good results. Once I calmed down things started to sound really good !
This is an awesome demo video, Ben. You really put a lot of effort, time and skills in it. The result is brilliant! And Oneiroi is brilliant anyway. Before your video I wasn't aware how flexible it actually is. Top!
I got one of the few available last night for the primary purpose of running electric violin through on my euro-violin rack. It has some overlap with the looper buffers on my Chase Bliss Mood2, but in Eurorack with more features and control- thanks so much for the very careful breakdown!
That sounds like a nice pairing. Do you plan on playing the violin just into the FX and looper? Or you work against the oscillator droning? Sequences? Thanks!
@@DivKid I usually treat the violin as flexible oscillator- and sometimes find ways to mutilate the sound sometimes beyond any recognizable form. At this years Electric Strings Summit in Lousiville, I performed an Industrial Techno Piece, where my self-imposed challenge was "live electric violin can be the only sound source".. I used frequency and pitch shifting galore, more buffer effects delays and loops than I can count, and they were in turn enveloped or filtered. I am very excited about seeing how the pitch shifting, reverse playback, resonator and noise added filters work with violin in various forms.
@@DivKid Thanks! A little bit of everything at first till I lock in how it is working best for live performance and lock in a few presets on my rack. I will be pairing it with the Noise Lab tailgater to Pitch CV track violin pitch. Pitch sources for the oscillators with come from that the violin CV chain, any of my sequencers, or a foot keyboard- I have used the Keith McMillen 12 Step for chromatic drone control in the past with great success. Pretty much every feature on the Oneiroi is right up my alley :) I just wish it had a few more audio outputs along the chain :D.
Holy shite! I've not started investing in modular... YET. But this seems like a no-brainer phenomenal addition to nearly any kit. This + nearly any sequencer/controller is nuts! Cheers and best from NYC. 🙂
What amazes me is that despite the shift functions and how much is packed behind this panel, is that it still seems performance friendly! Really smart idea utilizing the buffer for wavetables, albeit the morphing doesn’t seem as smooth I like. Can’t wait to get this in the mail next week!
wavetable offsets don't morph at all, it steps through the 32 waves it makes. The wavetable is definitely a basic implementation compared to say a wavetable oscillator but it is a nice way to get different harmonics and tones to work with against the sine/loops.
That triggerable modulation bus would be a nice module. Multiple outputs that can have different amounts of modulation and CV inputs over the speed and wave form. DIY preferably.
Maybe try to replicate some of what it does with what you have, not that there's much directly related to it, but fun to try and take ideas into other things.
As someone who is currently on vacation in Greece, I'm pretty sure it should be read as "Oniry" (as in "oneiric", meaning "something related to dreams")
Enjoy the vacation in Greece, I can't personally image that word coming up while on holiday in Greece but that's fun. The meanings are slightly varied when you look them up, as for pronunciation ... well this is a Spanish companies product, based on Greek mythology said by an English person so I'm happy I was fairly close. Thanks! :)
Yeah in a case as a contained instrument would be great. But then I start thinking, oh with a headphone out, and 1/4" jack outs, oh and MIDI so it integrates without modular for people ... not sure where that ends.
Hard sync. Great demo. I wasn’t that interested in this module when it was first announced, but the demos coming out have really changed my opinion of it. Might have to find some room in my rack.
Interesting module. Personally I’m not too fond of the shift functions. I’d easily loose track of what settings I have dialed in. Did I leave the filter at LP or HP, at what position is it at in the effects chain? How far did I turn unison? Oh shit, I forgot to press shift before trying to set the oscillator an octave lower. Yes, I understand not having the shift function would add an enormous amount of knobs and switches, but then again, welcome to modular synths. 😉
Yeah I get that, something like a filter in LP or HP things should be fairly obvious like that when you're using it and most of it I'd just set it how I want it and then play around within those behaviours. Definitely get it though and the tuning is a good example, in a performance setting you'd have to just style that out, maybe keep turning lower to dive bomb it down and back up then move into the thing you wanted. "welcome to modular synths" hahaha that sums it all up nicely! :)
Hey very interestingly made video a lot of interesting features you showed on it. and could you make another video only with the capabilities of this device. without side devices. I would like to know if this device has its own clock. can it be done on this device without using another sequencer from 45.39? I am interested in the granularity and is it possible to reduce the granularity even more? greetings bartek
Hello, I can't make another video. As it's a module, it was used in a modular environment to demonstrate what it does. There's no internal clock per say, however the delay times work manually, the looper works by itself without external sync to reset to the start point etc. So with just Oneiroi you could be making, capturing and manipulating sounds without any other modules.
@@DivKid butz it is an amazing device. i don't have moduls yet. i suspect it may be my first and not the last. When you connected the guitar, the range of possibilities for this device opened up for me. i wanted to have it. you made a good advertisement for this instrument.
well said, a bit of TINRS Tuesday, Winter Modular Eloquencer, possible other bits. If there's a specific part in the video I can have a look/listen and point things out, but those two were the main things.
@DivKid well right now I have a brains, quadrantid swarm, shapeshifter, vortex, a manis and a rings clone. Wanting the oneiroi, atlantix and a cizzle and I should have every tool I could want sonically. Also need a Data, and a es9, and a starlab lol Actually what I really need is a winning lottery ticket 😂
At 15:10 when I try to record with Post selected the record button does not light up, if using Echo or Ambience in Post recording it's just a burst of noise, recording in Pre works fine. 😵💫
I saw some talk on the Mod Wiggler forum about it which goes into licensing issues (I think) between the OWL platform that this is based on and VCV. Would be cool to see as it condenses what would otherwise be a lot of patching!
@@DivKid absolutely, I could patch most of that up fairly easily but really convenient to have it all in one module ready to go! Also the ambience with the reverse feature is fairly unique, can't think of another VCV module that does that. The sections with Rings and the guitar looping sounded great 👍
they are not, they're too slow in response for percussive decay envelope type stuff with the filter. Internal modulation will go faster though so you might get what you want out of the modulation on board.
Yeah I wanted some nice percussive bass hits out of that super saw and filter. Definitely a shame, I know it's on their list of things to look at for the future, a firmware update might speed up the CV response.
The Vhikk X and now this let me absolutetly forget about the Solar 42, maybe different beasts, less instruments more tinkering but also going much broader
Sending a timed gate to the record in and another clock division to the sync input didn't lead to tempo synced loops. With some more fiddling with the start, length etc I might have got closer but I got clicks (as I mentioned). Could be variation in the gate/trigs I was using not perfectly lining up but I asked Befaco and they explained this was the intention of the design. However they are working on this for the future. Hope that adds some clarity.
No worries. Your milage may vary and I've had a lot of good things out of the looper. I usually just try to bend them out of their intentions and see what happens and that was a wall I hit. The programmer for the module is pretty active on the Mod Wiggler thread so that's one to watch for developments and putting things across.
I was just going to say Thonk, however they have a bit notice on the page saying it sold out quickly and new stock is coming. Definitely a question to ask Befaco directly or the stores you use as to when they expect stock.
as an English person saying a the word of a Spanish product, said to me in Spanish accented English conversation, based on Greek mythology I think I got close, but good to know. I didn't hear RYE as in eye or REE as in wee at any point with anyone else saying this out loud.
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Wow the wavetable recording stuff is nuts 😊
It's amazing how much they packed into this
Yeah totally crazy how much they packed in and all the extra touches.
@@RedMeansRecordingplease Jeremy, can you make a video on the Onei too?
I just finished building mine, it fricking works! This guide is a lifesaver thanks boss!
@@Jin-Hu he did
I haven't been able to stop thinking about this thing! Out of stock everywhere but I got the demo from Perfect Circuit. Had to have this, just bananas!!
Ordered it directly from Befaco. No problem at all. Befaco rocks!
So impressed with this module since I first saw it. Receiving mine next monday :). And thank you so much for this wonderful manual!
ah cool, thank you. I hope you enjoy it and I'm sure you'll get some great results.
I didnt realise it did so much. Great demo.
Thank you
Well done, Ben - and Befaco. Bravo.
thank you!
I have it now single-handedly one of the best modules in my system, I cant wait to get out gigging with it, this is an exceptional design.
it's great that it's having such an impact.
Easily one of the best, most inspiring modules I’ve ever owned. Thank you for this walkthrough, it really helped get my feet off the ground.
Glad to be helpful and thank you
Such a beautiful Module! Thanks Ben for the detailed insights!
My pleasure thanks!
Before buying this, check if drones are allowed to fly in your area. This thing generates huge amazing drones.
haha
Seen the video while building my Oneiroi kit. Nice guitars chops Ben ✨
Thanks! I really enjoyed those SOS moments with the guitar.
Been looking forward to this demo!
thank you
This is an exceptional detailed look at the Oneiroi's long list of capabilities! I ordered one last night from Thomann in the UK (pre-built).
thanks, happy to be able to do it and share it.
So I've had the Oneiroi for about week now, and couple things I have learned, first don't overdrive the inputs as it will sound bad on most things you do, have to pay attention to the input level LED and try and keep it in the green. Second is to make very small subtle changes to the controls for the best results. Initially I was too aggressive with the controls and also did not have good results. Once I calmed down things started to sound really good !
Really inspiring design, well done Befaco
The resonator is very musical sounding.
This is insanely good!!! Ordered the kit and cant wait. I have so so many applications for this module. Great overview dude!!!!
Thanks Andy!
This is an awesome demo video, Ben. You really put a lot of effort, time and skills in it. The result is brilliant! And Oneiroi is brilliant anyway. Before your video I wasn't aware how flexible it actually is. Top!
Thank you so much, I appreciate that! Definitely putting as much as I can into everything and it's a pleasure to be able to do so.
Got it today and it is really fantastic - props to Befaco for this!
Enjoy it, thanks!
I just bought the diy! It’s going to be a fun ride!
Good luck with the build.
I can't stop using mine, makes me smile every time :D
Great to hear that
What a great bit of kit, just ordered one!
enjoy it!
damn, gonna get it tomorrow, what a module! thanks for this awesome in depth vid!
thank you! Enjoy it.
Hard Sync!! it does so much great video.
thank you
lovely module! thanx also for you DivKid
Fantastic video, mine is on the way...will be watching this great video a few times!
thanks, great to working with Befaco on things like this.
Hard sync! What an awesome video of an awesome module. Thank you Ben
Thank you, appreciate it!
Completely nuts! Deeper than deep.
Oceanic depths.
Cool module, very tempting, sounds good with the lfo modulation
Yeah the on board modulation is nice, as is modulating externally or mixing the two internal and external modulation.
serious review of a serious module, thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
Ordered one today
hope it works out well for you
@@DivKid Your video really sold me.
I got one of the few available last night for the primary purpose of running electric violin through on my euro-violin rack. It has some overlap with the looper buffers on my Chase Bliss Mood2, but in Eurorack with more features and control- thanks so much for the very careful breakdown!
That sounds like a nice pairing. Do you plan on playing the violin just into the FX and looper? Or you work against the oscillator droning? Sequences?
Thanks!
@@DivKid I usually treat the violin as flexible oscillator- and sometimes find ways to mutilate the sound sometimes beyond any recognizable form. At this years Electric Strings Summit in Lousiville, I performed an Industrial Techno Piece, where my self-imposed challenge was "live electric violin can be the only sound source".. I used frequency and pitch shifting galore, more buffer effects delays and loops than I can count, and they were in turn enveloped or filtered.
I am very excited about seeing how the pitch shifting, reverse playback, resonator and noise added filters work with violin in various forms.
@@DivKid Thanks! A little bit of everything at first till I lock in how it is working best for live performance and lock in a few presets on my rack. I will be pairing it with the Noise Lab tailgater to Pitch CV track violin pitch. Pitch sources for the oscillators with come from that the violin CV chain, any of my sequencers, or a foot keyboard- I have used the Keith McMillen 12 Step for chromatic drone control in the past with great success. Pretty much every feature on the Oneiroi is right up my alley :) I just wish it had a few more audio outputs along the chain :D.
Si good demo thanks ❤
Holy shite! I've not started investing in modular... YET. But this seems like a no-brainer phenomenal addition to nearly any kit. This + nearly any sequencer/controller is nuts! Cheers and best from NYC. 🙂
Same here, but I picked this up and a small case and love it. I'm resisting getting into the modular hole so hard, lol.
Thx for this...great job 🎶
Thank you
Beast! Nice job👌🏻
thank you
What amazes me is that despite the shift functions and how much is packed behind this panel, is that it still seems performance friendly! Really smart idea utilizing the buffer for wavetables, albeit the morphing doesn’t seem as smooth I like. Can’t wait to get this in the mail next week!
wavetable offsets don't morph at all, it steps through the 32 waves it makes. The wavetable is definitely a basic implementation compared to say a wavetable oscillator but it is a nice way to get different harmonics and tones to work with against the sine/loops.
@@DivKid I didn’t know that! Thanks!
The interface seems really intuitive and easy to remember. I tried this at Superbooth and I was sold. Waiting for my diy-kit to arrive soon
hope it's a nice build and good results pour out of it.
That triggerable modulation bus would be a nice module. Multiple outputs that can have different amounts of modulation and CV inputs over the speed and wave form. DIY preferably.
This is pretty cool - I have neither space nor budget for more modules right now, but this would be fun to play with.
Maybe try to replicate some of what it does with what you have, not that there's much directly related to it, but fun to try and take ideas into other things.
Great stuff!
Thanks Stu
As someone who is currently on vacation in Greece, I'm pretty sure it should be read as "Oniry" (as in "oneiric", meaning "something related to dreams")
Enjoy the vacation in Greece, I can't personally image that word coming up while on holiday in Greece but that's fun.
The meanings are slightly varied when you look them up, as for pronunciation ... well this is a Spanish companies product, based on Greek mythology said by an English person so I'm happy I was fairly close. Thanks! :)
Looks like quite the beast, they should sell a powered Pod for this as standalone.
Yeah in a case as a contained instrument would be great. But then I start thinking, oh with a headphone out, and 1/4" jack outs, oh and MIDI so it integrates without modular for people ... not sure where that ends.
Hard Sync
This is a very interesting module.
thank you Michael.
It looks rather useful.
indeed
Hard sync. Great demo. I wasn’t that interested in this module when it was first announced, but the demos coming out have really changed my opinion of it. Might have to find some room in my rack.
I think at first (I know when I first saw it) there's a lot to take in to realise what it's doing. It's been rewarding to learn it and get to know it.
Interesting module. Personally I’m not too fond of the shift functions. I’d easily loose track of what settings I have dialed in. Did I leave the filter at LP or HP, at what position is it at in the effects chain? How far did I turn unison? Oh shit, I forgot to press shift before trying to set the oscillator an octave lower. Yes, I understand not having the shift function would add an enormous amount of knobs and switches, but then again, welcome to modular synths. 😉
Yeah I get that, something like a filter in LP or HP things should be fairly obvious like that when you're using it and most of it I'd just set it how I want it and then play around within those behaviours. Definitely get it though and the tuning is a good example, in a performance setting you'd have to just style that out, maybe keep turning lower to dive bomb it down and back up then move into the thing you wanted.
"welcome to modular synths" hahaha that sums it all up nicely! :)
Hey very interestingly made video a lot of interesting features you showed on it. and could you make another video only with the capabilities of this device. without side devices. I would like to know if this device has its own clock. can it be done on this device without using another sequencer from 45.39? I am interested in the granularity and is it possible to reduce the granularity even more?
greetings bartek
Hello, I can't make another video. As it's a module, it was used in a modular environment to demonstrate what it does.
There's no internal clock per say, however the delay times work manually, the looper works by itself without external sync to reset to the start point etc. So with just Oneiroi you could be making, capturing and manipulating sounds without any other modules.
@@DivKid butz it is an amazing device. i don't have moduls yet. i suspect it may be my first and not the last. When you connected the guitar, the range of possibilities for this device opened up for me. i wanted to have it. you made a good advertisement for this instrument.
Hard Sync !!!
thanks
I want one baddd
Crazy
there's something in the water cooler down at Befaco I'm sure :)
I didn’t understood the model when trying it out at Superbooth. Now it’s much clearer. Hard sync.
happy to provide some clarity
If that had been available four years ago it might have saved me 20 or 30 modules and some $$$. Or not.
Yeah trying to replicate all it does with other modules ends up stacking up to a lot of modules, HP and money!
What's the sequencer used in this video? I'm always interested in the supporting actors in your films, as I think they add a lot to the sauce.
well said, a bit of TINRS Tuesday, Winter Modular Eloquencer, possible other bits. If there's a specific part in the video I can have a look/listen and point things out, but those two were the main things.
This and the atlantix are my next 2 acquisitions
Definitely going down the route of contained voices/instruments to build on or augment what you have. Nice!
@DivKid well right now I have a brains, quadrantid swarm, shapeshifter, vortex, a manis and a rings clone. Wanting the oneiroi, atlantix and a cizzle and I should have every tool I could want sonically.
Also need a Data, and a es9, and a starlab lol
Actually what I really need is a winning lottery ticket 😂
🎉
Splendid review, thank you. I assume this module is fully digital, apart from I/O, right?
Yeah it's built on the OWL platform.
I'm starting to like this jivkid fella
jivekid? dance child? never heard of him.
@@DivKid hahah are you knobcon 2024ing? We have drinks to be had
hotel is fully booked, which is of course annoying. Flight options look ok. Not booked anything yet but hoping to.
@@DivKid shit stay on the floor with Juanito and i
At 15:10 when I try to record with Post selected the record button does not light up, if using Echo or Ambience in Post recording it's just a burst of noise, recording in Pre works fine. 😵💫
ok, sorry to hear that. Contact Befaco support if you're having issues with it.
Guessing it's unlikely, but I'd love to see this ported to VCV. I would gladly pay for that as a premium module.
I saw some talk on the Mod Wiggler forum about it which goes into licensing issues (I think) between the OWL platform that this is based on and VCV.
Would be cool to see as it condenses what would otherwise be a lot of patching!
@@DivKid absolutely, I could patch most of that up fairly easily but really convenient to have it all in one module ready to go! Also the ambience with the reverse feature is fairly unique, can't think of another VCV module that does that. The sections with Rings and the guitar looping sounded great 👍
It is coming to VCV (one way or another!), just discussions behind the scenes to sort out the details as Ben says (I'm the VCV dev). Watch this space!
@@EwanHemingwayamazing, thanks! 👌
Well, I think I'd definitely like this module much better than the Moog Labyrinth.
different things for different uses and approaches I suppose. I haven't used the Labyrinth so little to comment from me.
Has anyone used this at the end of chain for live techno patches?
PhuckMe those resonating drums are like instant Skinny Puppy karaoke time!
Pop a mic in this and go to Karaoke town!
👍Nice!
💙⚪❤
You said: The cv-inputs are a bit slewed for technical reasons: Are they responsive enough for some classic enveloppe action on the filter cutoff?
they are not, they're too slow in response for percussive decay envelope type stuff with the filter. Internal modulation will go faster though so you might get what you want out of the modulation on board.
@@DivKid ah that's a pity, I was hoping to get this module to double down on stereo filter duties
Yeah I wanted some nice percussive bass hits out of that super saw and filter. Definitely a shame, I know it's on their list of things to look at for the future, a firmware update might speed up the CV response.
Played around with this module at superbooth. Great sounding unit, but I honestly did not get it completely.
I know when I first saw it I didn't get it, or rather I didn't get the full potential of it immediately. Lots to explore and lots on offer.
Did you get more of it because of this module? I think it's worth exploration for years.
Basically WARP records c1995 in a single DIY module. Mine.
This seems like a miniture version of the Elta Solar 42
The Vhikk X and now this let me absolutetly forget about the Solar 42, maybe different beasts, less instruments more tinkering but also going much broader
Hey!
why is it you couldn't make a loop in sync @49:36 ?
Thanks
Sending a timed gate to the record in and another clock division to the sync input didn't lead to tempo synced loops. With some more fiddling with the start, length etc I might have got closer but I got clicks (as I mentioned). Could be variation in the gate/trigs I was using not perfectly lining up but I asked Befaco and they explained this was the intention of the design. However they are working on this for the future.
Hope that adds some clarity.
@@DivKid thanks a lot, yes that's clear, and unfortunate! Then I'll wait for that fix.
No worries. Your milage may vary and I've had a lot of good things out of the looper. I usually just try to bend them out of their intentions and see what happens and that was a wall I hit.
The programmer for the module is pretty active on the Mod Wiggler thread so that's one to watch for developments and putting things across.
I can't decide betwen Oneiroi and Noise Plethora
for what purpose? They're very different things really.
Anyone know where I can find the DIY kits in stock? I'd really like to build one.
I was just going to say Thonk, however they have a bit notice on the page saying it sold out quickly and new stock is coming. Definitely a question to ask Befaco directly or the stores you use as to when they expect stock.
Back in stock! Thonk
Befaco in latin means "fucking with the beef"
機材より楽器のテクニックより、しょっぱい音楽産業より大事なこと。それは移動と体験だ。移動距離を稼ぐことで得られる地点はある。
this thing sounds like metroid prime to me
Hope you like Metroid Prime :)
@@DivKid very much so, amazing soundtrack. great video showing off a great module!
I think it’s pronounced ON-EYE-RYE or ON-EYE-REE (spanish/castellan)
It’s a Greek word, though? Oh-nee-Roy would be the Greek pronunciation.
as an English person saying a the word of a Spanish product, said to me in Spanish accented English conversation, based on Greek mythology I think I got close, but good to know.
I didn't hear RYE as in eye or REE as in wee at any point with anyone else saying this out loud.
It's Huge but sounds Humongous
it really doesn't feel that huge for what it does. There's dual oscillators bigger!
@@DivKid The Feature Set is outstanding
@@apeirogonmusic the power of digital dsp and a lot of interface and instrument design
@@el_dani It covers so much ground
Hard sync! Befaco is On A Ro(i)lol these days…
haha very good
JESUS CHRIST 😵💫
christ on a bike
@@DivKid learning something new every day ^^
hard sync
hard sync
The DIY kit is insanely affordable and it is literally begging me to build it and dominate each and every drone everywhere forever.