Moving Over to the Kase K9 System Without Scrapping Your Existing Filters
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 มิ.ย. 2021
- Over a year ago I dropped and shattered my Lee Polariser Filter, which caused to me to consider whether to move over to a different system, but in doing so I didn't want to scrap all of my existing Lee filters.
In this video I explain why I moved onto the Kase System, my thoughts on it, and how effective it is in supporting my existing Lee filters.
Thanks! This was exactly the info I was looking for! 😊
Well done explaining the K9 system!! Thank you!
My pleasure! Many thanks for viewing and commenting.
Thanks Mark this has answered many questions I had as, like many others who’ve commented, I’m thinking of changing from Lee but would still like to use my existing Lee filters.
Very informative and honest review, many thanks.
Many thanks for viewing Huw, and for your comments.
Brilliant. Super helpful. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Very helpful. Thanks.
Many thanks
I think you must surely be right in your comments about how laying the adapter ring inside the holder recess to make sure it's seated under those little lugs or lips that seem to act as the only retainers on one side when the holder thumb screw is fully tightened.
I immediately looked at my newly acquired kit (I've only had it a few hours!) and found that it may be a bit easier if screwing the adapter onto the lens (or step-up ring) first with the camera lens facing upwards, and then, again, carefully and with a couple of fingers under the lip/lug side, place the holder with the arrow head-lug side (now seen from above as the side with the red CPL rotation wheel) slightly UNDER the rim of the adapter.
Then - with the holder tightening screw fully withdrawn - gently slide the holder over the other side and let it fall into place so that you hear a gentle but audible snap or click as it finds the correct position in the recess. [**Red tensioning screw must be fully withdrawn to its anti-clockwise limit or the holder just won't fall into place easily.] You can then immediately test whether the holder rotates smoothly to make sure it is properly seated and tighten the holder securing thumbscrew ready for the next phase of the setup. If nothing else, at least this method provokes that final test to bed the connection fair and true.
I appreciate very much when a presenter looks more carefully and deeply at the functioning of these wonderful gadgets we don't seem to be able to get tired of inquiring after, rather than some kind of shallow show and tell. I like what I've seen with this Kase system and it clearly has advantages, not least in that it can be utilised on a whole range of lenses in my kit with a single purchase at reasonable cost (if you've got the bank account). Stepped up on the wide angles, it is claimed that the system avoids vignetting, even down to 14mm. While that remains to be seen on my setup, meantime what you have shown provides the kind of insight that makes watching way too much TH-cam for good health and happiness more like a worthwhile pursuit.
Congratulations on having that insight yourself in offering what viewers and photographers might need to see, hear, and talk about. If it's true that the kind of photography you produce tells us something about you, it must also be true that what you talk about photography also shows what sort of person you are. In that case, you sir, are one of OUR best ambassadors! Sorry! No money, no honey!
Many thanks Dee for viewing and the kind comments. Once you know of the slight issue you soon get the hang of attaching the holder, even when the camera might be on a tripod.
Well done! Thank you
Many thanks Jim
What a brilliant review and just what I was looking for. As a long term Lee user I feel they are slipping behind on design and practical use. The resin grads are difficult to keep clean and I've heard that the nano coating on both Nisi and Kase filters are far superior to Lee in repelling water and reducing smears which I find a frequent problem in our climate in the UK. I feel I've fumbled around with Lee too long, and need to make my photography a little simpler, so the easy way of just using the polariser. really appeals. Great work and worthy of a subscription on this alone.
Many thanks John for viewing, your comments and subscription. Glad it was of some use.
Terrific summary and review of the K9 system! I recently purchased the K9 system as an alternative to the Lee system as well. I was never comfortable with the Lee CPL concept of the forward mount, as you point out, so I have always used a screw on CPL to the lens and then I add the Lee adapter. It's a very clunky system especially when changing lenses so I moved onto the Kase K9.
On my first outing with the K9, I made the mistake of not having the holder properly attached as you pointed out. Let's just say that I now have 4 littler "little stoppers" as the holder popped off my lens and landed on the rocks at my feet. So now I find myself deciding whether I should buy another Little Stopper, buy a Kase version of a 6 stop rectangular, or reassess the entire system as the round magnetic Wolverine Kase system intrigues me and I find myself using my GND filter less and less.
I have not yet done a side by side comparison, but while using the CPL that is included with the K9 system, I felt as though the polarizing effect from it seemed to be less intense than my screw on B&W CPL. I was wondering if you noticed any difference in the polarizing effect when you made the switch? I'm not sure if the CPL in the K9 system is the same as the one they include in the round magnetic Wolverine system, but now Im hesitant to invest in that system without being certain the polarizer is up to the task.
Hi "Uncle Greg", many thanks for viewing and for your comments.
I feel you pain with breaking your Little Stopper, they're not cheap items to replace. I can also understand your thoughts on moving to circular magnetic filters. Like you I find myself using my GND filters less, with the exception of the reverse grad that I mentioned in the video. I find I'm now using this for many of my sunrise/sunset shots where I'm shooting into the light. But it all depends on the type of shots you take as to whether this type of filter is of any use.
Regarding comparing the Kase CPL and my old Lee, I've not been able to do a direct comparison, due to my Lee now being shattered; but I can't say that I've noticed any degradation since going onto the Kase. In fact I think I find it a little easier with the Kase to judge when the Polariser has made a difference, especially when shooting in woodland. I would often find, with the Lee, that I would spin the filter round and round and not be able to discern any change. This might be because the Lee CPL, being forward of the lens, might be affected slightly due to stray light. I don't know for sure. All I can say is that I've been very happy with the Kase CPL. Unfortunately I've no experience of the B&W CPL, my old screw on CPL was a Hoya Pro 1, and again I'm more than happy with how the Kase stacks up.
Your best solution would obviously be to test out the filters, either at a stockist, or from an Internet provider that has a no quibble returns policy. I appreciate though that this isn't always feasible, depending where you are.
Good luck; sorry I can't be of more help.
@@MarkLindstrom Thanks for your input, Mark. Cheers.
I moved from Lee to the Kase K9 system last year for the ease of adjusting the polariser in the holder. I held onto my Lee grads and Little/ Big stoppers, however i managed to kill both the little and big stoppers when i dropped both of them onto rocks within seconds of each other. So i will be getting the Kase versions to replace them. Kase say they make the ND filters in rectangular form for ease of putting in/ removing from holders that the square ones suffer from. Also i have noticed that kase sell 100mm square ND filters in the USA, but not in the uk from what i have seen. The only issue i have with the Kase holder is the rails. I have noticed that the rails are quite narrow and only just grab onto the filters, unlike the Lee holder which are wider and hold onto the filters by a few mm or more each side.
but there is one other thing, with the K9 kits, they come with a pouch for all of it, holder and adaptors to, so they are all protected, and accessed with the same pouch, not two separate ones, like lee have, one for the filters, one for the holder system.
Thanks! This was the video I was looking for. I have a number of older Lee 100x100mm solid ND filters, and it appears they will work on this K9 filter holder by turning them around, so the gasket on the back of the filter is on the front, where it can't interfere with the filter holder gasket. Now, the only question I still have is will the Lee 100x100mm ND filters on these filter holders vignette on my new Sony FE 14mm f1.8 GM lens (with special K9 adapter)? I am worried the gaskets on the Lee filters will cause some vignette. The Kase filters have no gaskets, so they should not be a problem, but I don't want to replace all my Lee ND filters.
Many thanks for viewing and for your comments. Unfortunately I’m unable to give you a definitive answer as I don’t have any direct knowledge of your lens nor using anything wider than my 16mm lens. That said I would ask this; have you experienced any vignetting with the Lee set up? If not I would suspect that you shouldn’t get it with the Kase set up. But much might depend on how many rails you use. I don’t think the fact that the gasket will be towards the front will be an issue as the rails will extend further to the front, especially if you have the three rails fitted. Also I’ve found that the Kase adapter is slightly shallower than the Lee’s. Sorry I can’t offer anything more concrete for you.
What has happened to Mark? Nothing for 2 years?
i am here because lee doesnt have an adapter for sony 14 gm