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Thanks for providing details and advice like a real coach. I am from India, my 10 year old son is interested in Table Tennis. Kindly make a Playlist for How to Train from Basic Level (From Kid age), basic exercises/ practice at table/ practice without table. How to reach at least national level tournaments... Thanks again for your insightful videos.
Great video! Multiball training and practices can be brutal, especially once you get better since you tend to miss less, also practicing lifting heavy underspin is very demanding. I have had fit friends that are gym rats or practice other sports getting surprised at how tough table tennis training can be
thats one of the coolest things in the sport and what makes TT so very unique. U can play it even without super athletic and even in old age. Of course not in highest class but overall. This sport can do what none others cant and has place for every "kind" of human and thats soo cool.
I am 40 years old, and I need to space out when I do serve training and when I do other things, like multiball training, because my tendons get inflamed if I do a specific thing, lets say, three days in a row. Table tennis puts a lot of force on your tendons, especially in the knees. I run and lift weights just so I can keep my body strong in order to survive the training, which is neurological in nature.
@jackjack-xi7je I've been running my whole life, so my technique and my body is adapted to it, but I agree that it is a big load (high impact). I never had issues with my knees when running because I have a short stridelength which naturally makes you take up a lot of the impact with your calf muscles and a strong arch of the foot. I prefer running on trails and almost never run on pavement.
When the feet get heavy, it becomes harder to move into position to do the shot correctly. That said, there are so many non-professional players that get away with technically incorrect shots. Beauty of the sport I guess. All ages, all styles.
Table tennis is extremely demanding. Even if the rallies are not too long, you still need to have your knees at almost 90 degrees and you have to always have tension in your body. Also, for example my father can easily do a 200km plus bike tour, while most people that claim to be fit can't even do a 40km one, yet he has problems training for more than 3 hours in table tennis. Same with another a bit older guy in my club, 73 years of age, he also bikes a lot, each year like 1000 km I think so he's very fit and he also does half marathons I think and he says stepping around the backhand with the forehand for an entire match is too tiring. People that say it doesn't require fitness have never actually played it on a level where it does. They play ping pong. Of course that's not demanding. But playing football and only passing is also not demanding.
I think it also depend on your resources. if you don't have someone who can feed you balls fast or a robot, fit and not fit doesn't have a huge difference. but when you have those resources, the skill increase difference between you being fit or not fit is huge.
One thing I noticed playing at a very amateur level in Germany. Some of my oppponents are clearly in 100+ kg weight category and have difficulty moving and using their forehand, but their backhand is super spinny (for our level) that I basically cannot block it. I am not sure if it's really the weight that gives this properly or maybe they just play 90% from backhand and it's thus much stronger. But to me it's actually harder to play against such clearly unfit opponents vs. up and coming kids who do more standard table tennis tactics
this isn't uncommon. I had the same experience when I started playing in South Africa. These guys would frequently play with super spinny chinese rubbers and play an incredibly wristy backhand. They just have fantastic co-ordination for these super wristy shots, since that's all they'll play. Once you get better, you'll be able to beat that with positional play, but you also need to remember that these guys are actually quite good. Thing is, that sort of playstyle hits a skill ceiling pretty quickly.
We must play multiple matches in succession sometimes so endurance is needed. Energy is also lost to the mental demand of focusing on serve receive and surviving deuces which go into teen point.
It screams wanting to wear down rubbers until they are worthless 😅 And yes, tacky rubbers wear down easily, which I've discussed in this video and why I don't recomment the average player to play with them: m.th-cam.com/video/G98vT7jk9y4/w-d-xo.html
Not only shape i think also if your fit and awake is very important. In the Netherlands in the local region (Provence), lower levels than you will play a in about a month here (i will see you play at my club, i play there in the third team) you play mostly on the Friday evening. After a hard week of working you can be a little bit tired to play tabletennis competition. So sometimes i play really bad below my level and lost from players which have a lower leven than me. I hope you will have a great time here. See you!
The mistake is thinking that all "sports" need high physical fitness. Not the case. Varying sports need varying degrees of physical fitness- some sports needing specialized training, specialized biomechanics, specialized nutrition and conditioning- that all differ from each other. One kind of conditioning for one sport may ruin your conditioning for others (i.e. running ≠ sprinting ≠ marathon ≠ triathlon). Sure, there can be overlap- but at the highest levels of competition, athletes need to dedicate, unless they are some kind of genetic/talent monster that can be superior at several events at one time. Sport can also refer to games of skill- fishing, hunting (shooting, archery), throwing, etc, that do not require high overall fitness, but rather, very specific biomechanical training. Racket sports, fall in between this category and fitness. Tennis will need more stamina and running than TT, but TT has more fine mechanics, and decision making that needs faster processing. I find that TT is actually very akin to swordfighting, and I find it funny that rackets are called "blades".
Nowadays? Trying to avoid gulping down a pot of Ben & Jerry's after dinner. Before? Much more stuff, but that might be a video topic for another day...
Take long pips, balsa blade and you need to run and move no more. You stand still, block with long pips and sometimes punish some loose balls that your long pips will earn for you. You win 99% of amateur matches, because they need to be pro to defeat long pips. No physical effort, but great efficiency.
Mr Falkenberg has a lot to answer for🥵 One great thing about TT is that you can keep playing beyond your peak and still be competitive and enjoy it - just ask Timo Boll and Ni Xia Lian!! However you do need to be fit!
Unfortunately, I failed to lay down the basics in my youth but I really enjoy trying to improve by following your videos - thanks to you both for making them such fun🎉
I think its physically demanding if you use proper techniques and movement, if you want to just stand still with long pips and take long breaks then its not and also not for the opponent
I can also play football (or soccer you gringos...) being out of shape, but will I perform at CR7 level?? hell no!!! Naysayers just say stuff to get in your head... for any sport it is good to be in shape, I find TT to be really good to incentivate people that are not super active to move more, as you increase level you increase your demand for movement and strength.
99.9% of your viewers doesn't have the skills you have and we struggle against players of all shapes and ages. So how shall a player with decent physics and speed play against someone who hasn't? Often these players are really skilled to read their opponent so I guess this goes along with your other video of disguise the strokes better?
You can't do any of the stuff he shows if you're not in the 1% physically. Go to the gym, do clever exercise, be followed by an athletic preparator. It will make everything easier on the table (and outside it). I would argue that the stuff you do in the gym is more important than the rest
Good serve, receive and 3rd ball are definitely important. It does help to be in decent shape, but other things can balance that out to some extent (such as camouflaging shots well, as you mentioned)
@@OlavKTTT Thanks Olav, I try to move them both in depth and from side to side but they are often very experienced and have excellent reading abilities. I suppose that is one of great things with table tennis that so many players can make up for their, literally, disabilities. A player in a wheel chair can beat a young very fit player. Regarding @BrunoNeureiter comment above, of course being healthy and fit is far more important for most than winning points in table tennis. But this channel is not about health, its about Luk.
Table tennis players are not in shape?? Have you seen legs of Fan zhan dong?? Dude got yew trees instead of legs, amd most top players walk with 8 pack 😂
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Thanks for providing details and advice like a real coach. I am from India, my 10 year old son is interested in Table Tennis. Kindly make a Playlist for How to Train from Basic Level (From Kid age), basic exercises/ practice at table/ practice without table. How to reach at least national level tournaments... Thanks again for your insightful videos.
Holy Shit your movement doing falkenberg looks so smooth and fluid
I'm out of shape and use table tennis practice as my main exercise. It's a shame some use pips and such to avoid the exercise.
At a high level a defensive player probably require better shape than an attacker, players like Joo Se-hyuk or Wang Yang for example.
@@emilboije2507 I'm glad I put the word some in that sentence. It's also quite true, but also quite rare.
lol, some pips players run 10x times as much as nonpips players. can be sooo hard bro
Great video! Multiball training and practices can be brutal, especially once you get better since you tend to miss less, also practicing lifting heavy underspin is very demanding. I have had fit friends that are gym rats or practice other sports getting surprised at how tough table tennis training can be
thats one of the coolest things in the sport and what makes TT so very unique. U can play it even without super athletic and even in old age. Of course not in highest class but overall.
This sport can do what none others cant and has place for every "kind" of human and thats soo cool.
and dont forget the brain muscles that are always working in the sport maybe more then in every other (ball)sport. its soooo nervwrecking
I am 40 years old, and I need to space out when I do serve training and when I do other things, like multiball training, because my tendons get inflamed if I do a specific thing, lets say, three days in a row. Table tennis puts a lot of force on your tendons, especially in the knees. I run and lift weights just so I can keep my body strong in order to survive the training, which is neurological in nature.
Tbh running is probably ruining your knees
@jackjack-xi7je I've been running my whole life, so my technique and my body is adapted to it, but I agree that it is a big load (high impact). I never had issues with my knees when running because I have a short stridelength which naturally makes you take up a lot of the impact with your calf muscles and a strong arch of the foot. I prefer running on trails and almost never run on pavement.
When the feet get heavy, it becomes harder to move into position to do the shot correctly. That said, there are so many non-professional players that get away with technically incorrect shots. Beauty of the sport I guess. All ages, all styles.
Table tennis is extremely demanding. Even if the rallies are not too long, you still need to have your knees at almost 90 degrees and you have to always have tension in your body. Also, for example my father can easily do a 200km plus bike tour, while most people that claim to be fit can't even do a 40km one, yet he has problems training for more than 3 hours in table tennis. Same with another a bit older guy in my club, 73 years of age, he also bikes a lot, each year like 1000 km I think so he's very fit and he also does half marathons I think and he says stepping around the backhand with the forehand for an entire match is too tiring. People that say it doesn't require fitness have never actually played it on a level where it does. They play ping pong. Of course that's not demanding. But playing football and only passing is also not demanding.
I think it also depend on your resources. if you don't have someone who can feed you balls fast or a robot, fit and not fit doesn't have a huge difference. but when you have those resources, the skill increase difference between you being fit or not fit is huge.
Karakasevic! His victory over the Truls is a good example of how TT is and isnt about athleticism.
Absolutely right salute to you what a great explanation
One thing I noticed playing at a very amateur level in Germany. Some of my oppponents are clearly in 100+ kg weight category and have difficulty moving and using their forehand, but their backhand is super spinny (for our level) that I basically cannot block it. I am not sure if it's really the weight that gives this properly or maybe they just play 90% from backhand and it's thus much stronger. But to me it's actually harder to play against such clearly unfit opponents vs. up and coming kids who do more standard table tennis tactics
this isn't uncommon. I had the same experience when I started playing in South Africa. These guys would frequently play with super spinny chinese rubbers and play an incredibly wristy backhand. They just have fantastic co-ordination for these super wristy shots, since that's all they'll play. Once you get better, you'll be able to beat that with positional play, but you also need to remember that these guys are actually quite good. Thing is, that sort of playstyle hits a skill ceiling pretty quickly.
Not to mention that, in my experience, these heavier players have some of the most ridiculous touch I’ve ever seen.
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We must play multiple matches in succession sometimes so endurance is needed. Energy is also lost to the mental demand of focusing on serve receive and surviving deuces which go into teen point.
That white spot on the black rubber screams quality and also exactly why I don't play with tacky stuff.😀
It screams wanting to wear down rubbers until they are worthless 😅
And yes, tacky rubbers wear down easily, which I've discussed in this video and why I don't recomment the average player to play with them: m.th-cam.com/video/G98vT7jk9y4/w-d-xo.html
We must prepare phosic, techmic & mental. Good.
Great video as usual my man
Not only shape i think also if your fit and awake is very important. In the Netherlands in the local region (Provence), lower levels than you will play a in about a month here (i will see you play at my club, i play there in the third team) you play mostly on the Friday evening. After a hard week of working you can be a little bit tired to play tabletennis competition. So sometimes i play really bad below my level and lost from players which have a lower leven than me.
I hope you will have a great time here. See you!
awesome video dude already. insta subbed
Thanks for debunking the myth!!!
The mistake is thinking that all "sports" need high physical fitness. Not the case. Varying sports need varying degrees of physical fitness- some sports needing specialized training, specialized biomechanics, specialized nutrition and conditioning- that all differ from each other. One kind of conditioning for one sport may ruin your conditioning for others (i.e. running ≠ sprinting ≠ marathon ≠ triathlon). Sure, there can be overlap- but at the highest levels of competition, athletes need to dedicate, unless they are some kind of genetic/talent monster that can be superior at several events at one time.
Sport can also refer to games of skill- fishing, hunting (shooting, archery), throwing, etc, that do not require high overall fitness, but rather, very specific biomechanical training. Racket sports, fall in between this category and fitness. Tennis will need more stamina and running than TT, but TT has more fine mechanics, and decision making that needs faster processing.
I find that TT is actually very akin to swordfighting, and I find it funny that rackets are called "blades".
Intresting topic, thanks as usual, Olav. Can you recommend your routine to stay in shape?) Some exercises or smth.
Nowadays? Trying to avoid gulping down a pot of Ben & Jerry's after dinner. Before? Much more stuff, but that might be a video topic for another day...
Take long pips, balsa blade and you need to run and move no more. You stand still, block with long pips and sometimes punish some loose balls that your long pips will earn for you. You win 99% of amateur matches, because they need to be pro to defeat long pips. No physical effort, but great efficiency.
Great video!
Mr Falkenberg has a lot to answer for🥵
One great thing about TT is that you can keep playing beyond your peak and still be competitive and enjoy it - just ask Timo Boll and Ni Xia Lian!! However you do need to be fit!
Yes, exactly my point on how you can stay on top/decent for a long time if you laid down the basics in your younger years.
Unfortunately, I failed to lay down the basics in my youth but I really enjoy trying to improve by following your videos - thanks to you both for making them such fun🎉
What you think about short recieve against half long serve?
When you make counterspin against spinny ball you must spin ball or just press down?
Yes, but some legends like Karakasevic could avoid the peak physical condition purely because of knowledge and talent...
I think its physically demanding if you use proper techniques and movement, if you want to just stand still with long pips and take long breaks then its not and also not for the opponent
I can also play football (or soccer you gringos...) being out of shape, but will I perform at CR7 level?? hell no!!!
Naysayers just say stuff to get in your head... for any sport it is good to be in shape, I find TT to be really good to incentivate people that are not super active to move more, as you increase level you increase your demand for movement and strength.
99.9% of your viewers doesn't have the skills you have and we struggle against players of all shapes and ages. So how shall a player with decent physics and speed play against someone who hasn't?
Often these players are really skilled to read their opponent so I guess this goes along with your other video of disguise the strokes better?
You can't do any of the stuff he shows if you're not in the 1% physically. Go to the gym, do clever exercise, be followed by an athletic preparator. It will make everything easier on the table (and outside it). I would argue that the stuff you do in the gym is more important than the rest
Good serve, receive and 3rd ball are definitely important. It does help to be in decent shape, but other things can balance that out to some extent (such as camouflaging shots well, as you mentioned)
@@OlavKTTT Thanks Olav, I try to move them both in depth and from side to side but they are often very experienced and have excellent reading abilities. I suppose that is one of great things with table tennis that so many players can make up for their, literally, disabilities. A player in a wheel chair can beat a young very fit player.
Regarding @BrunoNeureiter comment above, of course being healthy and fit is far more important for most than winning points in table tennis. But this channel is not about health, its about Luk.
Table tennis players are not in shape?? Have you seen legs of Fan zhan dong?? Dude got yew trees instead of legs, amd most top players walk with 8 pack 😂
If you play against a chopper , u 4 sure better have some good cardio. You’re going to have miserable match win or lose .