Step 1: Bus all your drums to a drum bus. Step 2: Spend plenty of time on the balance. Step 3: Use a stock EQ to tame any ringing. Step 4: EQ and compress the drum bus. Step 5: EQ and compress individual tracks.
@@Kidraver555 WHAT?! It was a 13 minute video that changed anybodys life who watched it! He gave reassuring and helpful advice and insights in a concerned and timely manner. Ive watched several videos that explain, nearly to a T, this exact same process. It is a phenomenal technique, which improved my speed, cpu usage and most importantly sound! Between this video, and this one --> th-cam.com/video/TqKROW94UuA/w-d-xo.html my drum mixing was revolutionized. You're complaining about FREELY offered knowledge
Ok. I’m a 38 year professional musician Sideman. Played on over 100 albums. Played in 14 countries. Now, in lockdown, I’m recording at home. Mixing drums. I have no fucking clue what I’m doing despite years of playing. This was the best explanation....concise, quick, articulate, entertaining and exactly what I needed. I wish you could hear what you showed me dude.
I love how you explained a bus channel in a way some of us might not already know what it is. Thanks for being helpful to a beginner. Most other videos are too far ahead to understand for a beginner.
I heard the ringing on the snare and was like "sheesh that is not sounding too hot...bit of a dissonant/hollow ringing..." and as I was asking myself "wait is he not gonna catch this?" I ate my words midway through that question when I realized you were setting it up on purpose for the next step and integrating it into a proper EQ lesson! Superb! Anyway great tutorial for sure. Simple, effective, and not encouraging cooking acoustic drums so much with plugins that they start to sound like a software kit! And a great point about the drums being 1 instrument/performance taboot!
Just watched this. Opened up my DAW, removed the trillion plugins on my current track's drums, rebalanced the tracks, added EQ and compression, BAM! They sounded more lively and punchy than ever. Your approach makes so much sense yet I still needed to hear it. This will definitely help me going forward. Thanks so much for sharing!
I need to respond to this, I've been around the music for 50 years and I truly respect your concept of the drums are ONE INSTRUMENT and your video is well beyond your years. I mix drums beginning with the overheads and MIX down to each drum with compression and effects to isolate each drum and each attack. I,m not saying it's right, I am saying it has afforded me a career in recording. Dale Burie, 'Tater Patch Recording Studio
Love it. There's lots of ways to do creative work, aren't there? You tell three guitarists to play an E chord, and you'll get three different voicing. None wrong. I love it.
Oh my god... found your tutorials yesterday but I wish I found them 20 years ago.. Sending of stuff to be mixed by a "pro"and have to wait for it to come back like 3 months later. Non of that anymore! Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge, I am going to watch all the other vids on your channel. Thank you so much again!!
Video release date: Oct 31, 2018. And it's just as helpful and relevant on June 3, 2021. Thanks, again, Joe, for your help, and your great presentation and instruction.
Thanks Joe! Can't express how grateful I am of your teachings and videos'. I grew up in a Professional recording studio here in San Jose, CA (CA) that was owned by Gradie and Jeannine O'Neal. Watching the whole recording process since I was 12 years old but, never did I think that at 45 years old, now I'm getting into Writing, Recording, Mixing my own music. I'm more of a singer/songwriter for myself of Mexican romantic music and just to get my Ideas/ Demos I've Only used Impact. I searched for the best drum sounds on the loops sounds and created my own 16 channel Impact Pad and made it a Default for my using of genre. On the other hand, I have an acoustic Drum kit that I bought 3 years ago and because of your videos I've been super encourage to just lay down real drums. Each day I'd get your email with teachings and even though I've seen your videos before, I always learn something new. I had bought the Audix mic kit and I also use WA 14 for Over heads and the good ol' 57 for the snare. Drums Mapex Armory 6-piece Studioease Fast Tom Shell Pack - Rainforest Burst and I had also replaced all the heads with what I've seen growing up which was REMO Ambassador Pinstrip heads. I'm no drummer but, I don't take each day that passes lightly, I've been studying really hard about micing technics, and gain staging and now mixing. This year I made it my goal to learn all I can about drums, recording micing, mixing, tuning and ect....... taking notes and applying them. I thank you again and God Bless you for all that you do.
Sir is on point. I started my audio training in actual studio locations & I’m so grateful for it. NOT saying that is the “be-all, end-all” but it did help give me a foundation w/regard to mixing. I usually start w/a simple volume & pan mix, bus stuff out & just LISTEN. An engineer’s most EFFECTIVE tools are not plug-ins, it is their EARS! Good luck & much success to EVERYONE out there in musicland in 2022. Bless up. 🙏🏽
1-2024 7 years before you made this video, Graham Cochran got me started in this. Now I have built my 10x10 Studio, good equipment, learned guitar, Sound design, music Theory, learned some piano, electronic Analog/Digital recording with all Studio One DAW just now starting learning How to mix the Tons of Drums (TT-EZ2. XLN, IKMM 3.5 MAX & BFD3) starting in 5 Steps. ALL SMILES Can NOT Thank YOU Enough
OK, I'm now searching my jam room for hidden cameras! I was making the same mistakes you described in the beginning of the video. Thanks for teaching the "bus" technique. It totally fixed my mixes and I use that technique on other instruments too. Gamechanger for the "learn as you go hobbyist"
Great vid Joe... I think checking phase should be step one. Starting off with a thin drum sound because of phase issues could prove to be the first step down the rabbit hole
I just watched the video and I kept waiting for him to address that. If your double mic'ing a kick or snare, phase check is a must. I could dive deeper, but at least start there.
Hi Joe, i actually tried this method today. I have to say it sounds just more natural with less processing than before. Especially when i work with live-tracks it seems to fit way better to the feel i want to create. Thanks a lot
Awesome video, glad I watched it! If I may suggest a step 6, it's to add some light saturation on the drum bus. It doesn't need to be distorted, but if someone has never done that, it might blow your mind with how much better it can make it sound.
@ 9:38 - this is the best 5-7 seconds of any of your tutorials. You keep us engaged and intrigued, thanks for your style, it's insanely helpful for people like me with ADHD
Currently in school for firefighting but i do a LOT of music.. you remind me so much of one of my favorite instructors! Look, mannerisms, teaching style, energy.. it’s crazy. I’m subbing cuz why not?!
best mixing tip ever. I was getting good until I saw your approach to the drums. Now everything I mix is fast and sounds excellent. You are the master of youtube gurus.
nice joe, specially the last line which you said {prove right or prove wrong, either way we become better} hope there will be people who understand the gravity of this line, and respect your level of insight.
Just took a quick scan through a few comments. Lotta unhappy people out there it seems. But I actually just dropped in to say "Thank you" To Mr. Gilder! I've learned much from him in my journeys.
Thank you for this - I've never mixed drums before and was definitely feeling intimated / not knowing where to start - feel much better about cracking on and giving it a go now!
Greetings from Florida. Quite impressive. You should have mentioned that even though you had 5 "plugins", the plugins you used are technically part of all mixers so I don't even count them as plugins. Goes to show the power of properly recording drums at the source and a great understanding of frequency cleanup. Bravo sir bravo!
Thank you! This was very VERY helpful for someone like me who is just getting into tracking remotely...this one video has elevated my mixes a huge amount!
I've been doing this a while... and I'm impressed with this video. Couldn't agree more... and well articulated. Might want to have mentioned what those settings on the drum bus compressor mean (attack/release) but that's a whole other kettle of fish...
Mono compatibility is one of my things that I realised screwed my mixes and i did correct it . Phase issues can kill good mix . Nice video on the drums
This was a great video thanks! I like how not only did you talk about the concepts but you went in there and show off how to identify culprits that were causing problems and how you took care of them. One thing i noticed these days is its harder to find videos doing this stuff on analog gear.
Many thanks, tried it straight away, worked really well to get a solid working drum mix up in a matter of minutes. I always seem to spend more time on drums than anything else in a mix and this will help a massive amount.
Thats a great video! I also love the simplistic concept of using 4-6 mics (where your overheads cover the toms and cymbals) for that more live feel. Thanks for sharing.
I would only say that I use eq’s on every track at least to cut subs on the mics that don’t need it... e g overheads giving a lot of dirt in the 0-200 range. Or cut them even more if you want them to give super crispy cymbals sound...
Definitely gonna try this method when I'm back up and running. Like you said, most guys will spend an hour per drum mic before they even get to setting up a drum buss. Crazy thing is, they'll mix each individual drum, then turn around and start dropping samples/replacements lol
I'd like to think I have been mixing drums correctly the whole time, but I'm not too proud to admit I learned a few things here as well. Thanks for the video Joe!
bus drums, bus kick, bus snare, bus toms, bus overheads, bus rooms, this can help a lot get things faster, especially when (re)mixing the song after a longer while, exporting stems etc. also tip regarding saturation, use additive EQ which simultaneously saturates (such as for ex. Wavesfactory Spectre), because when you want some frequency to be heard more, you usually want to color it a little too to be even more noticeable ;)
Thank you for such a wonderful and effective lesson! I gave these steps a whirl, and I got a really nice sounding natural drum sound. I realized how much unnecessary tweaking I was doing (I had fun at it still:)) before, but hey, we learn and improve all the time. Good one!!
Great explanation, it would be fun to see your ideas for mixing electronic drums like 808 (for low), kick drum (for punch) and bass guitar (for groove) to hear them cut through the mix in there own space.
Awesome video thanks. I'm just getting started and your explanation was super clear. Weird that I clicked on yours when I had the whole "duplicating a track" question and voila, you answered it. Thanks Joe!
you are very good sir, Thank you. I have recently been given a project that is all live and the drums messed me up a bit. I'm used to mixing rap from loops or drum machines so this was VERY helpful .
I agree with M about checking phase first but I think this is a great video and helped tremendously. I managed to get a great kit sound with just a bit of eq on kick and snare and a bit of reverb and buss compression!! Helps to have a good drummer that can tune the kit.
You have a great way of keeping the big picture in mind, which is how is it going to sound in the mix. The biggest time killer is looking at one kick or overhead and going crazy with it before hearing its contribution to the submix or bus. I wish I would have watched this first before any other drum mix tutorial. I agree the drum kit should be considered as a single instrument or musician, as in reality, so you can treat it as such when doing the main mix. Separating out the kick and snare alone is going to detract from a natural band sound, and usually that is what I prefer. If it sounds to convoluted or pre-fabricated, it loses the factor that is most engaging- sounding like a real drumkit played by a real person.
Very very very good tutorial. No tracks with 11 plugins or 15 or 32. No necessary. The most important is a good recording the instrument. This is a tip more important. Thankssss
Hey Joe!!Glad I decided to check this out today man,took a little break from working on a project to review my overall approach to the drum bus before getting into it and found that coincidentally what you were focusing in on as far as treating all the individual kit components as part of an "integrated whole"(something that when you get into one-shots/samples etc rather than working with live drum mics tracks is easy to forget about) is something I just started thinking more in terms of myself..as always great video,much thanks again!!
Thank you for this. I posted a drum cover video two days ago. Saw this video yesterday. I am new to all this, and I am that guy who spends way too many hours fooling with individual tracks because I am flying by the seat of my pants learning as I go. So I remixed my song using your tips and It sounds so much better now. But, you can't replace videos on TH-cam posts. So I guess I'll know better for the next one! Thank you.
7:00 Fabfilter pro-q has a great feature called spectrum grab which listens and labels every significant resonant frequency. Gives you back that 3 minutes spent finding the perfect point and still missing it by a few hz. I'm a house producer but these tips were still very helpful. Right on m8
My first time doing this, first video that popped up when I searched this topic. Works good enough for me! I don’t have real drums tho only 3 virtual ones
Less is more. This video is the best in the tube. You help me a lot and remember me then every little change in a single track introduce a big quantity of probably annoying things in a complessive drum sound. Thanks, you’re video really help and tech me, but must of all let me understand that always in every field of work less is more.
I've looked so many mixing tutorials etc but you put all in a nutshell and it really helped me alot 🐱🏍 this vid cleared my mind that i dont need to do pucnh of shiiit to my mix. less is better it seems 🐐 Thank you
I like this approach, people are so stuck on individual mics when it comes to mix drums ... One of the biggest drum mixing mistakes I used to do was to do drastic low cut on the overheads ... It took me years to realize it was killing the body of my snare
@@pete3816 Subjectivity is a given. Cheap bullshit insults are not. I have done over 3,400 live shows for everybody from David Bowie to garage bands, mixed records, consulted on mixes for records and the checks cleared and everybody clapped. Call me in 20 years with your CV. Unless it just says "internet troll". I already got that part. : )
Thanks so much for the info Joe! I was about to try and throw money at my boxy drum issue by buying a new set of drum mics; I already had my shopping cart ready to hit purchase and I thought I should educate myself a bit more and see if there was anything I could do with the equipment I already have instead. Your vid absolutely helped save me money. Really appreciate it!
Great stuff. Solid Tips Sir. For fun and Xtra added funk, I add a BMP sync'd Multi delay across the buss and dial in a few %. Outstanding! Also, time your reverbs and predelays to the track bpm to ensure the tightest sound. (BPM calculator). Predelay can raise the apparent level of reverb without needing to actually add more. Timing the compression attack/decay also works well.
Great video. After over 25 years of playing I finally have home mics, Laptop, Kit, and audio interface set up!!!! Wohooo! It's pretty exciting. I've done some recording and I love the sound that the kit has flat with no EQ, so this video on how to optimise that, which is great. I'll have a toy around and see what "improvements" can be made! thanks for the video. I'll check out the phasing video you have done also as I see people referencing that as a prime concern for recording the old tubs. cheers, oh and happy new year!
Step 1: Bus all your drums to a drum bus.
Step 2: Spend plenty of time on the balance.
Step 3: Use a stock EQ to tame any ringing.
Step 4: EQ and compress the drum bus.
Step 5: EQ and compress individual tracks.
@Lazy Monk lol you should know what do you need to do in ur mix
step 5 is optional
Step 6: Go try it!
I wish joey would not go into psychology so much and keep the vids short.
@@Kidraver555 WHAT?! It was a 13 minute video that changed anybodys life who watched it! He gave reassuring and helpful advice and insights in a concerned and timely manner. Ive watched several videos that explain, nearly to a T, this exact same process. It is a phenomenal technique, which improved my speed, cpu usage and most importantly sound! Between this video, and this one --> th-cam.com/video/TqKROW94UuA/w-d-xo.html my drum mixing was revolutionized. You're complaining about FREELY offered knowledge
Ok. I’m a 38 year professional musician
Sideman.
Played on over 100 albums. Played in 14 countries.
Now, in lockdown, I’m recording at home. Mixing drums. I have no fucking clue what I’m doing despite years of playing.
This was the best explanation....concise, quick, articulate, entertaining and exactly what I needed.
I wish you could hear what you showed me dude.
Thanks Wayne!
No need to use foul language. Music is a language and is a reflection of our inner self. Think about it. Peace man.
@@citizenworld8094 just let him say things how he wanna say it man. This is a yt comment section not the music in itself.
@@citizenworld8094
Go live under a rock, that man's a legend he can say whatever he wants.
Same response, but..... I'm 51 years old. Fully agree. And the final advice, go and try it..!!
One of the best drum mix tutorials I have ever seen. Good to see someone showing that you don't need 100s of plug ins!
To the person watching this : Congrats on the new Drum set-up!!
Hehehe me too haha
@Kylo Quincy oh fucking great! 1, thats illegal, 2, this is clearly fake for anyone reading this :)
I love how you explained a bus channel in a way some of us might not already know what it is. Thanks for being helpful to a beginner. Most other videos are too far ahead to understand for a beginner.
I heard the ringing on the snare and was like "sheesh that is not sounding too hot...bit of a dissonant/hollow ringing..." and as I was asking myself "wait is he not gonna catch this?" I ate my words midway through that question when I realized you were setting it up on purpose for the next step and integrating it into a proper EQ lesson! Superb! Anyway great tutorial for sure. Simple, effective, and not encouraging cooking acoustic drums so much with plugins that they start to sound like a software kit! And a great point about the drums being 1 instrument/performance taboot!
Good for you, geoff.
@@chipgaasche4933 lmaoo
Just watched this. Opened up my DAW, removed the trillion plugins on my current track's drums, rebalanced the tracks, added EQ and compression, BAM! They sounded more lively and punchy than ever.
Your approach makes so much sense yet I still needed to hear it. This will definitely help me going forward. Thanks so much for sharing!
This is awesome. As someone who is new to mixing, this helps me TREMENDOUSLY.
"grasshoppa".... that deserves a like it self alone
I need to respond to this, I've been around the music for 50 years and I truly respect your concept of the drums are ONE INSTRUMENT and your video is well beyond your years.
I mix drums beginning with the overheads and MIX down to each drum with compression and effects to isolate each drum and each attack. I,m not saying it's right, I am saying it has afforded me a career in recording.
Dale Burie, 'Tater Patch Recording Studio
Love it. There's lots of ways to do creative work, aren't there? You tell three guitarists to play an E chord, and you'll get three different voicing. None wrong. I love it.
Oh my god... found your tutorials yesterday but I wish I found them 20 years ago.. Sending of stuff to be mixed by a "pro"and have to wait for it to come back like 3 months later. Non of that anymore! Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge, I am going to watch all the other vids on your channel. Thank you so much again!!
Let me mix and master it for you in the meantime🙏
This is a real gamechanger for me. I love these no nonsense, 80/20 style videos.
yow that eq on that snare was clean asf!!
I'm with Joe. A sound technician friend of mine once told me many years ago that the less you change things, the better the overall sound.
Video release date: Oct 31, 2018.
And it's just as helpful and relevant on June 3, 2021.
Thanks, again, Joe, for your help, and your great presentation and instruction.
If you ever decide to quit making music...go, become an actor. You've got such a nice, warm voice and you are so entertaining!!
Thanks Joe! Can't express how grateful I am of your teachings and videos'. I grew up in a Professional recording studio here in San Jose, CA (CA) that was owned by Gradie and Jeannine O'Neal. Watching the whole recording process since I was 12 years old but, never did I think that at 45 years old, now I'm getting into Writing, Recording, Mixing my own music. I'm more of a singer/songwriter for myself of Mexican romantic music and just to get my Ideas/ Demos I've Only used Impact. I searched for the best drum sounds on the loops sounds and created my own 16 channel Impact Pad and made it a Default for my using of genre. On the other hand, I have an acoustic Drum kit that I bought 3 years ago and because of your videos I've been super encourage to just lay down real drums. Each day I'd get your email with teachings and even though I've seen your videos before, I always learn something new. I had bought the Audix mic kit and I also use WA 14 for Over heads and the good ol' 57 for the snare. Drums Mapex Armory 6-piece Studioease Fast Tom Shell Pack - Rainforest Burst and I had also replaced all the heads with what I've seen growing up which was REMO Ambassador Pinstrip heads. I'm no drummer but, I don't take each day that passes lightly, I've been studying really hard about micing technics, and gain staging and now mixing. This year I made it my goal to learn all I can about drums, recording micing, mixing, tuning and ect....... taking notes and applying them. I thank you again and God Bless you for all that you do.
Sir is on point. I started my audio training in actual studio locations & I’m so grateful for it. NOT saying that is the “be-all, end-all” but it did help give me a foundation w/regard to mixing. I usually start w/a simple volume & pan mix, bus stuff out & just LISTEN. An engineer’s most EFFECTIVE tools are not plug-ins, it is their EARS! Good luck & much success to EVERYONE out there in musicland in 2022. Bless up. 🙏🏽
After 2 years of production I’m just starting learn it’s all about the subtlety. Thanks Joe
YOUR THE GOAT BRO. I LOVE TEACHERS WHO CAN MAKE COMPLEX THINGS SIMPLIFIED !!
That's called understanding. If you can't explain any complex thing simply to a person then ya don't know shit.
1-2024 7 years before you made this video, Graham Cochran got me started in this. Now I have built my 10x10 Studio, good equipment, learned guitar, Sound design, music Theory, learned some piano, electronic Analog/Digital recording with all Studio One DAW just now starting learning How to mix the Tons of Drums (TT-EZ2. XLN, IKMM 3.5 MAX & BFD3) starting in 5 Steps. ALL SMILES Can NOT Thank YOU Enough
OK, I'm now searching my jam room for hidden cameras! I was making the same mistakes you described in the beginning of the video. Thanks for teaching the "bus" technique. It totally fixed my mixes and I use that technique on other instruments too. Gamechanger for the "learn as you go hobbyist"
Great vid Joe... I think checking phase should be step one. Starting off with a thin drum sound because of phase issues could prove to be the first step down the rabbit hole
I concur ... call it Step Zero. :)
Haze Anderson 🤣👍
Absolutely. I talk about that in my 5-step mix guide. Super important, but also boring. :)
@@HomeStudioCorner Your videos are never boring! awsome stuff Joe
I just watched the video and I kept waiting for him to address that. If your double mic'ing a kick or snare, phase check is a must. I could dive deeper, but at least start there.
Love it. The necessity for parallel processing VS food group processing is very important.
Hi Joe, i actually tried this method today. I have to say it sounds just more natural with less processing than before. Especially when i work with live-tracks it seems to fit way better to the feel i want to create.
Thanks a lot
Awesome video, glad I watched it! If I may suggest a step 6, it's to add some light saturation on the drum bus. It doesn't need to be distorted, but if someone has never done that, it might blow your mind with how much better it can make it sound.
@ 9:38 - this is the best 5-7 seconds of any of your tutorials. You keep us engaged and intrigued, thanks for your style, it's insanely helpful for people like me with ADHD
Currently in school for firefighting but i do a LOT of music.. you remind me so much of one of my favorite instructors! Look, mannerisms, teaching style, energy.. it’s crazy. I’m subbing cuz why not?!
This is one of the best audio tutorials I've ever seen. THANK YOU
I've been watching tutorials for years and this is the first tutorial i'm seeing the tutor has a notebook. Now this is a Professional tutorial !
Worked instantly. No fuss, no BS. Great advice.
best mixing tip ever. I was getting good until I saw your approach to the drums. Now everything I mix is fast and sounds excellent. You are the master of youtube gurus.
ONE OF MY MOST FAVORITE TEACHERS THANK YOU SENSI
Thank you! The concept of starting with the bus before tweaking individual mics is SO helpful unto itself.
nice joe, specially the last line which you said {prove right or prove wrong, either way we become better}
hope there will be people who understand the gravity of this line, and respect your level of insight.
That was one of the most effective uses of EQ I’ve ever seen on the snare ring. You did that perfectly.
Great technique. This approach to drums and the overall mix has improved my mix quality, speed and enjoyment.
Loved it!!! It's nice to see your vids again, you we're missed. Don't get lost again please.
Haha. Thanks.
Just took a quick scan through a few comments. Lotta unhappy people out there it seems. But I actually just dropped in to say "Thank you" To Mr. Gilder! I've learned much from him in my journeys.
Thank you for this - I've never mixed drums before and was definitely feeling intimated / not knowing where to start - feel much better about cracking on and giving it a go now!
So groovy, and so simply stated. We need more teachers like you. Thank you.
This was kinda eye-opening in many things, i made a lot of mistakes before, now you cleared it up for me. Thank you! Subscribed!
This guy gets the psychology of an amateur mixer so well. Thanks!!
You’re a natural teacher.
This was very good. No nonsense, east to follow advice which showed me I am on the right lines. Thanks.
Greetings from Florida. Quite impressive. You should have mentioned that even though you had 5 "plugins", the plugins you used are technically part of all mixers so I don't even count them as plugins. Goes to show the power of properly recording drums at the source and a great understanding of frequency cleanup. Bravo sir bravo!
Thank you! This was very VERY helpful for someone like me who is just getting into tracking remotely...this one video has elevated my mixes a huge amount!
Thanks teacher. This is BLESSING from the end of the earth to the ends of the earth.
I love your videos idk why but your way of teaching makes mixing incredibly more fun and thought provoking
I've been doing this a while... and I'm impressed with this video. Couldn't agree more... and well articulated. Might want to have mentioned what those settings on the drum bus compressor mean (attack/release) but that's a whole other kettle of fish...
Mono compatibility is one of my things that I realised screwed my mixes and i did correct it . Phase issues can kill good mix . Nice video on the drums
Really well explained in a short interval of time. Really helps a lot specially for us starters to get going!! Thanks a lot man!!
This was a great video thanks! I like how not only did you talk about the concepts but you went in there and show off how to identify culprits that were causing problems and how you took care of them. One thing i noticed these days is its harder to find videos doing this stuff on analog gear.
have you also done something like this but mix in mono?
One of the least blown out guys on youtube. Thanks, guy
Thanks a lot Joe ! Your videos are really really great ! Cheers from France !
So nice to see such a pro using studio one! 😁😁
Many thanks, tried it straight away, worked really well to get a solid working drum mix up in a matter of minutes. I always seem to spend more time on drums than anything else in a mix and this will help a massive amount.
Where was this video 4 years ago. The thing that changed it for me was learning to start with the over head mics.
Thats a great video! I also love the simplistic concept of using 4-6 mics (where your overheads cover the toms and cymbals) for that more live feel. Thanks for sharing.
If no one will say I will, this guy has a great voice.
You’ve just described the way I mix drums for a long time!! Great lesson! Simplicity is the key!
I would only say that I use eq’s on every track at least to cut subs on the mics that don’t need it... e g overheads giving a lot of dirt in the 0-200 range. Or cut them even more if you want them to give super crispy cymbals sound...
I’ve been taking my mixes to my car a lot lately especially to mix drums. Works perfectly
Excellent guide, thanks! As a drummer who is just starting to learn recording, I appreciate this simple and practical approach.
Simple , Informative , and straight to the point. I really like your approach. Great video.
Definitely gonna try this method when I'm back up and running. Like you said, most guys will spend an hour per drum mic before they even get to setting up a drum buss. Crazy thing is, they'll mix each individual drum, then turn around and start dropping samples/replacements lol
Hi Joe, TQ . You are a genuine man. Appreciate it.
THE ONLY TH-camR I BELIEVE, WHO CAN CHANGE MY LIFE IS YOU. THANKS JOE SIR
Brilliant! I'm literally going back to my studio to try this now!
I'd like to think I have been mixing drums correctly the whole time, but I'm not too proud to admit I learned a few things here as well. Thanks for the video Joe!
bus drums,
bus kick,
bus snare,
bus toms,
bus overheads,
bus rooms,
this can help a lot get things faster, especially when (re)mixing the song after a longer while, exporting stems etc.
also tip regarding saturation, use additive EQ which simultaneously saturates (such as for ex. Wavesfactory Spectre), because when you want some frequency to be heard more, you usually want to color it a little too to be even more noticeable ;)
Thank you for such a wonderful and effective lesson! I gave these steps a whirl, and I got a really nice sounding natural drum sound. I realized how much unnecessary tweaking I was doing (I had fun at it still:)) before, but hey, we learn and improve all the time.
Good one!!
Best drum mixing video I have watched! Thank you.
Great explanation, it would be fun to see your ideas for mixing electronic drums like 808 (for low), kick drum (for punch) and bass guitar (for groove) to hear them cut through the mix in there own space.
Awesome video thanks. I'm just getting started and your explanation was super clear. Weird that I clicked on yours when I had the whole "duplicating a track" question and voila, you answered it. Thanks Joe!
you are very good sir, Thank you. I have recently been given a project that is all live and the drums messed me up a bit. I'm used to mixing rap from loops or drum machines so this was VERY helpful .
I agree with M about checking phase first but I think this is a great video and helped tremendously. I managed to get a great kit sound with just a bit of eq on kick and snare and a bit of reverb and buss compression!! Helps to have a good drummer that can tune the kit.
Great Video. I've been recording drums for 25 years and I endorse your less-is-more approach, particular corrective eq. Very well done, Sir.
You are very good at presenting your ideas in an inspiring manner.
You have a great way of keeping the big picture in mind, which is how is it going to sound in the mix. The biggest time killer is looking at one kick or overhead and going crazy with it before hearing its contribution to the submix or bus. I wish I would have watched this first before any other drum mix tutorial. I agree the drum kit should be considered as a single instrument or musician, as in reality, so you can treat it as such when doing the main mix. Separating out the kick and snare alone is going to detract from a natural band sound, and usually that is what I prefer. If it sounds to convoluted or pre-fabricated, it loses the factor that is most engaging- sounding like a real drumkit played by a real person.
Very very very good tutorial. No tracks with 11 plugins or 15 or 32. No necessary. The most important is a good recording the instrument. This is a tip more important. Thankssss
Hey Joe!!Glad I decided to check this out today man,took a little break from working on a project to review my overall approach to the drum bus before getting into it and found that coincidentally what you were focusing in on as far as treating all the individual kit components as part of an "integrated whole"(something that when you get into one-shots/samples etc rather than working with live drum mics tracks is easy to forget about) is something I just started thinking more in terms of myself..as always great video,much thanks again!!
Thank you very much. This helped a lot. You save lives, Joe!
Thank you for this. I posted a drum cover video two days ago. Saw this video yesterday. I am new to all this, and I am that guy who spends way too many hours fooling with individual tracks because I am flying by the seat of my pants learning as I go. So I remixed my song using your tips and It sounds so much better now. But, you can't replace videos on TH-cam posts. So I guess I'll know better for the next one! Thank you.
my favorite how to mix channel😁😄
7:00 Fabfilter pro-q has a great feature called spectrum grab which listens and labels every significant resonant frequency. Gives you back that 3 minutes spent finding the perfect point and still missing it by a few hz.
I'm a house producer but these tips were still very helpful. Right on m8
wow, thank you. So great. This video is a game changer in my home studio ...
love your delivery! THANK YOU
My first time doing this, first video that popped up when I searched this topic. Works good enough for me! I don’t have real drums tho only 3 virtual ones
Simple. Straightforward. Insightful. Really helpful. Subscribed. Thank you!
Less is more. This video is the best in the tube. You help me a lot and remember me then every little change in a single track introduce a big quantity of probably annoying things in a complessive drum sound. Thanks, you’re video really help and tech me, but must of all let me understand that always in every field of work less is more.
Tutorial is straightforward. I tried it, drums simply sounds better. Thanks.
I've looked so many mixing tutorials etc but you put all in a nutshell and it really helped me alot 🐱🏍 this vid cleared my mind that i dont need to do pucnh of shiiit to my mix.
less is better it seems 🐐 Thank you
I like this approach, people are so stuck on individual mics when it comes to mix drums ...
One of the biggest drum mixing mistakes I used to do was to do drastic low cut on the overheads ... It took me years to realize it was killing the body of my snare
Thanks, man! You seem likeable as well as knowledgeable.
Good luck with your channel!
I learned how to mix drums at the CLE Agora (the real one on E.24th) in the '70s and I've never had a bad drum mix since.
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@@pete3816 Oh, I can't wait to hear this. Or do you just sling random shit at people on internet forums? : )
@@pete3816 It's about results. Mine work. Your opinion either way is pretty much negligible. Honest. : )
@@pete3816 Subjectivity is a given. Cheap bullshit insults are not. I have done over 3,400 live shows for everybody from David Bowie to garage bands, mixed records, consulted on mixes for records and the checks cleared and everybody clapped. Call me in 20 years with your CV. Unless it just says "internet troll". I already got that part. : )
Loved your work and teaching im a studio one user
Thanks so much for the info Joe! I was about to try and throw money at my boxy drum issue by buying a new set of drum mics; I already had my shopping cart ready to hit purchase and I thought I should educate myself a bit more and see if there was anything I could do with the equipment I already have instead. Your vid absolutely helped save me money. Really appreciate it!
Great stuff. Solid Tips Sir. For fun and Xtra added funk, I add a BMP sync'd Multi delay across the buss and dial in a few %. Outstanding! Also, time your reverbs and predelays to the track bpm to ensure the tightest sound. (BPM calculator). Predelay can raise the apparent level of reverb without needing to actually add more. Timing the compression attack/decay also works well.
Great video. After over 25 years of playing I finally have home mics, Laptop, Kit, and audio interface set up!!!! Wohooo! It's pretty exciting. I've done some recording and I love the sound that the kit has flat with no EQ, so this video on how to optimise that, which is great. I'll have a toy around and see what "improvements" can be made! thanks for the video. I'll check out the phasing video you have done also as I see people referencing that as a prime concern for recording the old tubs. cheers, oh and happy new year!
Thanks for the tutorial, it helped a lot. Practice makes perfection but your advices help the process. Cheers!