Pierre Boulez, Pli selon pli (Don) - Ensemble intercontemporain - Matthias Pintscher
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- Pli selon pli (1/5)
Portrait de Mallarmé pour soprano et orchestre
Don
Marisol Montalvo, soprano
Orchestre du Conservatoire de Paris
Ensemble intercontemporain
Matthias Pintscher, direction
Enregistré en direct le 3 février 2015 à la Philharmonie de Paris, Grande Salle - Philharmonie 1
This piece was a great discovery for me when I was a kid. I still think it's one of the greatest - and most original - mid-century works.
agree, heard it at 15 and it altered how I played the piano...I never fully embraced postmodernist composition afterwards
AI nowadays can compose music as forgettable as this. You will never know if it's a Boulez or a Huawei.
Pli selon Pli, à chaque nouvelle écoute, mon plaisir est plus grand encore qu'à la précédente !
Great piece,
Great performance,
Great conductor and composer
Higgs Boson82 and great venue. Thanks !
Quelle chance de pouvoir entendre cela sur TH-cam.
Décidément ce site est capable du pire et du meilleur !
R.I.P Pierre Boulez, it was great having you in this world...
Obviously the work of a brilliant mind. This is one of the greatest examples of music in bits and pieces. It is most entertaining while it is being performed but you cannot remember a single phrase once you leave the hall. The 20th century saw a lot of music like that. It is music that delights the mind and avoids the heart.
I don't feel it avoids the heart. It certainly doesn't touch my heart like Debussy or Shubert but it still moves me. It's music that gives me the 'creeps' - disconcerting but yet beautiful. Surreal, like I'm walking through one of my own dream landscapes where everything almost, but doesn't quite make sense.
@@pietrodandrea722 I guess haunted houses need music too.
@@stephenjablonsky1941 . 😅
I find it to be beautiful music. A bit long for my attention span. Half an hour is about all I can take. If there is theme and variation material to be followed here I certainly don't have the ears to hear it. Maybe some people can. I don't know.
It's good elevator music for factories. Also, good background sound when cleaning toilets and mopping floors.
Subliminal message 38 seconds in makes me want to buy every recording Ensemble InterContemporain has made with Boulez
and-hopefully-destroy them.
I love the chords at the beginning so mysterious yet beautiful.
It became usual to play excerpts of Pli selon Pli, an exceptional encounter between a symbolic, hermetic poet Mallarmé, indeed a cery great Franch poet, and the symbolic and hermetic language of Pierre Boulez. It is an encounter at the very top of the art., and one of the great masterworks of the French music in the second part of the XX° Century,.together with "Espaces acoiustiques" of Gérard Grisey.
"Hermetic" Indeed.
Beautiful performance !
How can we tell?
Beautiful performance of forgettable music.
Merci.je découvre ce grand chef d'orchestre qui va être honoré et mieux reconnu si j'ai bien compris.moi retraitée.malentendante.
Um respeito absoluto à voz é o que se ouve aqui. Como Boulez conseguiu isso? Num equilíbrio perfeito entre os sons e o mistério que emana dos acordes dissonantes. Coisa de gênio!!!1
Uma obra fascinante, como o próprio Mallarmé a desejaria e pensava ser. Uma das obras mais incríveis de boulez e uma de minhas favoritas do seu repertório.
awesome
I was a student of Maestro Boulez in 1963 at Harvard. Years later I painted a picture entitled Pli Selon Pli which I gave him and it hung in his Paris apartment for years. Where it is now is anyone's guess.
wholesome story
Copied from Joan Peysers book, "To Boulez and Beyond" pg. 235 and 236:
The first movement begins with the opening line of the Mallarme poem
"Don du Poeme"
"Je t'apporte l'enfant d'une nuit d'Idumee"
(I bring you the child of an Idumaean night).
Wallace Fowlie, a Mallarme scholar, writes that "from the title we know the gift is a poem but the image signifies it is a dismal birth. The poem is inadequate and the birth is covered with blood. The poem is disinherited as soon as it is created and is thus compared to the child of Edom, which was the country of Esau, the brother disinherited in favor of Jacob." That is surely an accurate metaphor for the way Boulez viewed the birth and savage assault on his Idea.
Voilà, that says it all: the motivation is not what could be called a civilized one, it is barbaric. And that is what the work represents.
vraiment, soldat?
I love this piece, but my girlfriend calls it “Please Do Not Play.”
Concordo com ela
Your girlfriend's pretty funny. Play it anyway.
When my girlfriend is horny and I don't want to have sex, I play this over dinner.
so good...
Eu que sou leigo não estudo bulhufas, mas não se pode negar que é uma apresentação muito rica
An odd piece - the soloist (Marisol Montalvo) has quite a sparse part, and the orchestra only occasionally plays at the same time as she sings.
Also an odd ensemble - it has woodwind, brass, and percussion sections like a large orchestra, but about a quarter to a third as many strings; the violin section is particularly small .
And Marisol Montalvo has an amazing set of lungs, as the saying goes.
Is this the 1962 version or the 1989 one?
What, you mean you can't tell?
It's 1989 version.
The 1899 one
Sounds like Debussy adopting Webernian colours.
9:02 this chord!
Brilliant sense of imagination and sound construction.
Where's the monster in that terror film scene? It's behind the curtain? Under the wood floor?
0:54
"What does it mean to say that a large-scale work like Mr. Boulez's
29-year-old "Pli Selon Pli" shrinks to insignificance in comparison with
almost any Schubert song or Chopin prelude? Nothing, really. In the
second half of the 20th century, we demand a different kind of genius of
our geniuses. Mr. Boulez's works serve his listeners most usefully by
isolating them momentarily from the human feelings that an "Erlkönig",
let alone a "Winterreise", can force to the surface. The excerpts from
"Pli Selon Pli" that Mr. Boulez conducted at Carnegie Hall confronted
the listener in no such embarrassing manner: they dealt with the
Mallarme texts antiseptically, like a rubber-gloved dental technician.
This sort of expressively uncontaminated art is a thing of its time and
therefore in a sense legitimate. It may be described as the 'great'
music of a century in its death throes" -Donal Henahan, former music critic New York Times
""What does it mean to say that a large-scale work like Mr. Boulez's
29-year-old "Pli Selon Pli" shrinks to insignificance in comparison with
almost any Schubert song or Chopin prelude?"
That you're an idiot.
@@hughpugh6286 Yes.
Boulez's sound arrangement (not music) will be forgotten in less than a century though. It was a thing of its time now in its death throes.
tuuuuut,pîîîîîp,blonk,.....crouiiic : du Boulez quoi !!! Toujours aussi...comment dire.....pénible (?) (soyons courtois).Aux amateurs , je peux recommander les...travaux dans ma rue : toute sorte de sons (moteur,marteau piqueur,grue,bétonneuse,etc) : au moins aussi passionnant (et gratuit !!!)
C'est une honte !
Les détracteurs font toujours la démonstration de leur manque flagrant d'imagination.
C'est très laid
Tu es partout, incroyable, comment on peut perdre sa vie à ce point à essayer de dénigrer un personnage, ça devient maladif.
Je suis l’œil de Boulez, dans sa tombe.
Quelle argumentation !!!
comme ta mère
We wait and we wait and we wait that something is going to happen, but nothing happen, this music is stuck in its inability to move or take shape or carry some life or express anything interesting, nothing but vacuity and boredom, just an annoying noise. This music is a failure, worse an imposture ...
Great for you. For us that enjoy the piece, there are Lots of great things happening and to pay attention to. Hopefully one day you will see something on the piece. Even if you don't, hopefully your "hate" towards it leads into interesting aesthetic questions about arts and thus the value of the piece doesn't become a failure at all for you. :)
Peace bro
+dou40006 The piece is unfolding all the time - hence it's title.
So you don't like it?
+John Appleseed what to be liked in this sonic misery ?
dou40006 certainly not your subjective opinions that are addressed in a derogatory way....on every Boulez video
Ne jamais laisser un comptable composer car sinon l'auditeur paye la facture avec ses tympans.
N'importe quoi !!!