16:45 Enjoying the conversation so far. I suspect that anyone who has appreciated art as it is presented in galleries, museums, books, or similar mediums has wondered what art truly is-especially in the modern era, where what is deemed ‘Art’ often elicits a wide range of reactions, from elation and intrigue to confusion, irritation, and even anger. Both laypeople and artists alike frequently find themselves grappling with an array of rationales and emotions in response to contemporary work. For me, Art-with a capital ‘A’-can be defined simply as the marriage of form and beauty. This union occurs through the artist’s skill, which is applied in the act of creation. Without form, there is no tangible work to see, hear, or touch; art without form remains an unmanifested idea. Without beauty, there is no possibility for appreciation, no potential to elevate the mind. The greater the artist’s skill, the greater the resulting work of Art can be, as mastery deepens this marriage of beauty and form. Put another way, Art is the union of matter and mind within the inanimate; it is an expression of humanity’s capacity for goodness.
Jeff's podcast has not gotten repetitious, I always look forward to his interviews! This interview was very inciteful and I enjoyed the indepth description of Jeff's process. Thank you, Quang!
1:34 - It’s fascinating to hear both Jeff and Quang discuss how they each approach organising their paintings. There’s a quote attributed to Fechin that really encapsulates this organisational aspect of painting-and, indeed, of all art forms. It strikes me that there isn’t a single ‘right’ way to structure the painting process. What matters is having an organised way of seeing, whether through shape, value, anatomical forms, or other methods and being able to apply them as needed or desired. Quang’s description of Jeff’s ‘consumerist still life’ as an ‘equalisation’ painting illustrates how he categorises certain paintings by that particular organisational approach. Here’s the Fechin quote: “To me, technique should be unlimited... [with] constant growth in ability and understanding. It must never be mere virtuosity but an endless accumulation of qualities and wisdom... First comes the initial idea for a work - what the artist desires to portray, to bring into concrete manifestation. In order to fulfill this task, [they] must begin to build, to organise.”
Quang and Jeff: Thanks very much for this podcast. I learned a lot and listening to you guys discuss all the topics you covered was so enjoyable. It's great that you summarized the podcast and list the progression and timing of the topics that were covered.
Two of my favorite painters. I love that Jeff is brutally honest and speaks with confidence and conviction in everything he says. I love his paintings. 28 colors on the palette😮. I thought I had a lot at 18. Loved hearing about his whole process and about getting bored preplanning I could totally relate. I get bored of everything including myself lol Great to hear that you guys have the same struggles as everyone else but no one wants to talk about it on social media so thanks for being honest. I love seeing artist that are stellar without huge ego! Thank you Quang and Jeff
This is the first of your interviews I have seen. All appropriate buttons have been pushed. A complete truck-load of things were presented that made me think a great deal. Thanks for that. I consider expressionistic/abstract works as design rather than art & that if one feels that is the only way to express oneself, then either the mastery of the craft of mark-making is lacking or the creativity/imagination of the creator needs to be developed & nurtured to a higher degree. Also, I define art as having no 'practical' use. Whether they are books, music or paintings, they are just that, having no practical, extrinsic, use to anyone, but of invaluable intrinsic importance. People nowadays seem to look down on the word craft. However, it is the progression towards mastery of the mark-making that is the craft & how one uses that learned skill, what they create with that growing proficiency, is where it (possibly) becomes art. You & Jeffery touched on furniture design & construction a number of times. This is a craft. The resulting items may be beautiful, but they also yield a very practical result. All the ceramics from Ancient Greece or the Ming Dynasty were created beautifully, but that isn't why they were made; they had a need & these items filled that need. I would urge you to check out two other 'tubers: Paul Sellers has been perfecting his craft for dozens of years in the field if cabinetry (using all hand tools). Also, look at Leo Sampson's restoration of the sailing vessel Tally Ho, a wooden boat built in 1910. Another master craftsman. I think that's long enough for now. I'm going to binge all of your other interviews as well as Jeff's. This was a balm for my soul. Keep up the great work & I am looking forward to your next offering. I wish you well.
How can your website not have any customer support option or other business information. It is required. that along with other regulatory measures ( I know I had an online business) it doesn’t even have a way to delete/suspend your account/profile. I would advise caution, in the event anything goes wrong you will have 0 recourse to try and rectify it…
Such a great interview. Jeff is a great teacher. His class has changed my artistic life. He’s very supportive and down to earth.
The colors vibrate next to each other!😊
Enjoyable to hear to good painters talking together.
16:45 Enjoying the conversation so far. I suspect that anyone who has appreciated art as it is presented in galleries, museums, books, or similar mediums has wondered what art truly is-especially in the modern era, where what is deemed ‘Art’ often elicits a wide range of reactions, from elation and intrigue to confusion, irritation, and even anger. Both laypeople and artists alike frequently find themselves grappling with an array of rationales and emotions in response to contemporary work.
For me, Art-with a capital ‘A’-can be defined simply as the marriage of form and beauty. This union occurs through the artist’s skill, which is applied in the act of creation. Without form, there is no tangible work to see, hear, or touch; art without form remains an unmanifested idea. Without beauty, there is no possibility for appreciation, no potential to elevate the mind. The greater the artist’s skill, the greater the resulting work of Art can be, as mastery deepens this marriage of beauty and form. Put another way, Art is the union of matter and mind within the inanimate; it is an expression of humanity’s capacity for goodness.
Jeff's podcast has not gotten repetitious, I always look forward to his interviews! This interview was very inciteful and I enjoyed the indepth description of Jeff's process. Thank you, Quang!
This is gold!!!
1:34 - It’s fascinating to hear both Jeff and Quang discuss how they each approach organising their paintings. There’s a quote attributed to Fechin that really encapsulates this organisational aspect of painting-and, indeed, of all art forms. It strikes me that there isn’t a single ‘right’ way to structure the painting process. What matters is having an organised way of seeing, whether through shape, value, anatomical forms, or other methods and being able to apply them as needed or desired. Quang’s description of Jeff’s ‘consumerist still life’ as an ‘equalisation’ painting illustrates how he categorises certain paintings by that particular organisational approach.
Here’s the Fechin quote:
“To me, technique should be unlimited... [with] constant growth in ability and understanding. It must never be mere virtuosity but an endless accumulation of qualities and wisdom... First comes the initial idea for a work - what the artist desires to portray, to bring into concrete manifestation. In order to fulfill this task, [they] must begin to build, to organise.”
Quang and Jeff: Thanks very much for this podcast. I learned a lot and listening to you guys discuss all the topics you covered was so enjoyable. It's great that you summarized the podcast and list the progression and timing of the topics that were covered.
Two of my favorite painters. I love that Jeff is brutally honest and speaks with confidence and conviction in everything he says. I love his paintings. 28 colors on the palette😮. I thought I had a lot at 18. Loved hearing about his whole process and about getting bored preplanning I could totally relate. I get bored of everything including myself lol
Great to hear that you guys have the same struggles as everyone else but no one wants to talk about it on social media so thanks for being honest. I love seeing artist that are stellar without huge ego! Thank you Quang and Jeff
This is the first of your interviews I have seen. All appropriate buttons have been pushed. A complete truck-load of things were presented that made me think a great deal. Thanks for that.
I consider expressionistic/abstract works as design rather than art & that if one feels that is the only way to express oneself, then either the mastery of the craft of mark-making is lacking or the creativity/imagination of the creator needs to be developed & nurtured to a higher degree.
Also, I define art as having no 'practical' use. Whether they are books, music or paintings, they are just that, having no practical, extrinsic, use to anyone, but of invaluable intrinsic importance. People nowadays seem to look down on the word craft. However, it is the progression towards mastery of the mark-making that is the craft & how one uses that learned skill, what they create with that growing proficiency, is where it (possibly) becomes art.
You & Jeffery touched on furniture design & construction a number of times. This is a craft. The resulting items may be beautiful, but they also yield a very practical result. All the ceramics from Ancient Greece or the Ming Dynasty were created beautifully, but that isn't why they were made; they had a need & these items filled that need. I would urge you to check out two other 'tubers: Paul Sellers has been perfecting his craft for dozens of years in the field if cabinetry (using all hand tools). Also, look at Leo Sampson's restoration of the sailing vessel Tally Ho, a wooden boat built in 1910. Another master craftsman.
I think that's long enough for now. I'm going to binge all of your other interviews as well as Jeff's. This was a balm for my soul. Keep up the great work & I am looking forward to your next offering. I wish you well.
How can your website not have any customer support option or other business information. It is required. that along with other regulatory measures ( I know I had an online business) it doesn’t even have a way to delete/suspend your account/profile. I would advise caution, in the event anything goes wrong you will have 0 recourse to try and rectify it…