Is there a chance that the UCI could follow FIA (F1) and set a limit on team budgets and prices of bikes to keep the bikes truly affordable for the public and level the possibility of success for more teams without stopping the development progress on a more even playing field? Keep up the good work.
The only time the cost of expensive bikes affects you is if you buy one. I compete relatively competitively as an age grouper on a 15 year old bike I paid $635NZD for. I've done a few of the cheap upgrades Ollie describes in his budget TT build vids. Every race there are people who beat me on more expensive equipment but they probably train harder and/or have more talent than me, and there are always alot of people behind me on bikes that cost 15x what I paid. I love my bike, it fits me and its fast, and i get great satisfaction out of going fast on a budget. My son is getting into racing now and struggled with an old mountain bike in triathlons for a few years before I found him quite a nice road bike for $90NZD it needed a good service to work properly which I did myself after watching some gcn vids. Its a 10 speed like mine so he can use my race wheels (alloy rims with gp5000 tyres) for races, he loves it and also beats lots of kids with much more expensive bikes now. Humans are funny, we get jealous of what others have but not how they got it, We like nice things but its mostly consumerism really. We're not poor and could buy more expensive bikes but I find it hard to justify because I really don't think we'd be any faster and I'd rather my competitors were jealous of my FTP than my bike.
I always say the same thing. The ONLY time a bike price impacts anyone is when they actually purchase a bike. How much one spends is a personal choice.
I agree with you that a cap should be placed on equipment used by juniors when competing! My reasoning being that when I was in my cycling prime in the very late 1970's mid 1980's I was "competing" against youngsters that had the best, tubs, wheels, frames etc and were ferried from one event to another by car, whereas I had to cycle up to 20+ miles to start line then cycle back. There was no way I could compete despite my divorced mother trying to buy me the best;, think Peugeot, 501 frame and steel forks for example. Nor was I able to initially buy the right shoes/ clothes. However, despite the adversity I still competed with respectable times and look back with fondness; one of those times, freezing to death on a Dulwich Paragon Xmas 25 in shorts and a top I'd cobbled together. There is an arms race in cycling begining, much like F1, the fact that Red Bull is now a main sponsor will merely fan the flames for "World Domination" and could potentially be to the detriment of cycling, but it may also be the beginning of a renaissance? Let's see!
Back in the early 1960s we all road frames with Reynold's 531 double-butted tubes, and sprints and tubs. There probably wasn't much speed advantage between the best and cheapest components. The common refrain was, "It's the man, not the bike". I remember riding from Bournemouth to Salisbury or Southampton in the early hours of Sunday mornings to ride TTs. Then joining the club run to a country pub to eat my sandwiches and drink a few pints of beer or scrumpy. I miss those days.
In LA, if you left your "lorry" in a significant bike lane for an extended period of time, no one is going to scream at you for 1/2 hr....you'd probably simply come out to find your tires slashed! (I guess the reasoning is: Makes your point, but uses less energy.)
In the early days of Kart racing one of the most competitive groups enforced a rule whereby any racer in the race could purchase any other competitors Kart for a fixed sum. This meant that no-one spent over the odds on the Kart in terms of upgrades as you could be forced to sell the Kart at the end of the race. This ensured the Kart's were ~99% similar and therefor the winner won mostly on ability with a bit of luck thrown in. It stopped over spends and the ever increasing issue of the winners weren't necessarily the best Karter's but the ones with the deepest pockets. It was very successful for many years and had top notch racing.
There was another race category that did the same with cars. I just can't remember it right now, but it's a lot more recent, somewhere around 2010 if I recall correctly. Let me see if I can find it back.
As an older rider who is getting more and more attracted to things like Audax, I feel like now is actually the *best* time in history to get into the sport. While bikes are more expensive, I think the gap between best and worst has shrunk considerably. Mid tier (and even significantly less than mid tier) bikes are *amazing*. General equipment availability is much better. Consider the array of bags, tools, puncture protection, lights, navigation devices, etc. At no time in history have we had it so good. On top of that, the internet provides access to free and surprisingly high quality training information backed up by actual science. We can even go and read the scientific papers to get as much detail as we want without having to spend thousands of pounds to become a member of a scientific library. World famous coaches even sometimes answer questions from random people on internet fora. So while pro road cycling is getting harder to get into, I'll argue that the "sport of cycling" as a whole is getting dramatically more accessible.
Living in Tokyo for almost 10 years now, in terms of stats I don't know what is considered an "incident", but I know there are up to 3 pedestrian deaths per year due to cyclists, and around 3 per day from cars. You also need to know that a user walking while looking at their phone and walking into a cyclist is always by law the cyclists fault. You can literally walk into a parked bicycle and its the cyclists fault. So how many of these "incidents" can be avoided by the cyclist no matter how much attention they are paying is debatable. Also traffic deaths by cars are increasing year on year for the first time in 8 years. But that's fine, its cars, get those cyclists.
I coach a team with 50 kids from 9 to 18 - the most valuable thing for them is time: folks willing to take them out on training rides, skills coaching, etc. The bike is secondary. The best kids are able to efficiently use what gears they have and stay focused for the length of their race - skills only developed from hours on the bike regardless of what that is.
@@paddymurphy-oconnor8255if they are really talented they might already have sponsors even if it’s not a big company I know junior cyclists that get to race high end bikes through support from local bike shops
@@paddymurphy-oconnor8255to succeed in most sports these days you need to be from an upper middle class background. Football is one of the last sports where the top athletes are from predominantly working class backgrounds
next to our ice rink is a cycling school from the belgian cycle federation. Each saterday 10-12 years old show up on miniature carbon racing bikes, some have even electronic shifting. crazy; but some friends of my youngest son (he's 11) even ride to school on electric bikes for a 2 km bike ride. even crazier
Bicycle designers, e.g. Mike Burrows, had to go to a sports car company for aerodynamics tech. I was lucky to be at Motor Industry Research Association when Chris Boardman was in the Climatic Wind Tunnel with Lotus. I had a NDA with MIRA which covered the experience. I was actually working with the company who supplied Engine Management to Triumph Motorcycles as a Vehicle dynamicist. My job was to assess test vehicles' aerodynamic characteristic to model on a chassis dynamometer, rolling road. THE best aerodynamicists are at the Formula One teams. The money is stupid. I don't think a bicycle racing team could afford them. The next level of aerodynamicists are at aircraft design companies. Fast Jets. Eurofighter. Airbus and BAE Systems. Alas for cycle race teams, I have retired. :-)
I’ve been saying the exact same thing about non-alcoholic beers in pubs, they are so expensive and makes you feel there is no in incentive in buying them!
How about this for an idea? Don't ban carbon in junior/amateur/lower tier races, but the bike must be below a certain price - frame + components. Each tier could have a different cap. That way, riders would not be buying so much high end expensive equipment, then manufacturers might reduce the prices of the higher end equipment, to try to sell more of it. Would this work, and would it be a good thing?
And who is going to determine the price of goods? It will require you to buy all stuff at the same shop, because you can have up to 40% differences in price otherwise.
zwift workouts: The Gorby Extreme and The McCarthy Special. If you can finish the gorby extreme you're FTP cannot be set correctly - or at least that's what I'm telling myself :')
Hello all! I'm uncertain where to ask this, so here goes. Are there not going to be any more GCN Training videos? I like them, and have looked forward to them since I have a "dumb" indoor riding setup. I particularly enjoyed the 55 minute Passo Giau POV one that Emma and Hank did.
Cycling needs to put a cap on spending (like many sports) to keep all of the teams competitive. Deep packets will always have an unfair advantage if left unchecked.
Why am I so amused watching you describe Dan's arm movements for the benefit of your podcast listeners in the section based on looking at a photo? It's the small things that make life enjoyable.
👉👉For ALL riders under 18. They should only be allowed to use "Under 18" equipment. "Similar" to Japan's keirin NSJ equipment restrictions. Many years ago, when carbon tube frames first became available. I saw two Midget (8 to 12 years old) riders on Exxon Graftek (24-inch) bikes. They were ONLY available to an Exxon Graftek executive. FAIR????
Took my daughter to Belgium to race the National Kermesse series last year with top 10’s and top 5’s all travelling from Norfolk in a 16 year old Vauxhall Vivaro and then spending nights sleeping in said van in park ups we could find as we had a very small budget, partially funded by me and mum and my daughters part-time job. Other British girls/women, who could afford to were spending weeks if not months in Belgium, plus the occasional training camp to warmer climes which can’t be funded by themselves or their teams which means it must be family investment
For most bike equipment, there are several top tier brands with excellent equipment, and I'd be surprised if variety between top tier equipment was able to change anything about races
A power meter costs less than one out of town trip to a race now, it’s not at all a barrier to pro cycling. Out of town travel is probably the biggest barrier to becoming a pro that you overlooked.
I've got a good workout my coach asked me to do every now and then, it's called the power hour 😅. An hour at sub threshold and then every 2 minutes it's a 20 second over/under geared effort
Zwift workouts: Circus (part of the 12 week Build Me Up training plan is just BRUTAL... having completed the entire plan and getting full stars on every other workout I just couldn't hold those big numbers for love nor money 🥵 😭
The Wringer on Zwift is commonly known as the hardest one, and I agree with the idea that it isn't really possible if you're not cheating the system/yourself
Of course good tech helps, but I rode my first road season as a U17 rider against other guys with all the best tech and coaches available to them while I was on a bike a tenth the price and even won my first CX race on that same road bike (not saying you should ride cross on a road bike 😅)
Agree on the kids racing, Dan will have seen it himself at Wessex Cyclocross League, and it happens at RRs too. Richest parents buy high end kit for their kids, I've seen U10s with carbon everything, deep section wheels and aero helmets! Great if you can afford it, but it's a bit off-putting and completely unnecessary. My kids are on second hand bikes but we look after them well, alloy everything, and they do ok, but most importantly, they love it. British Cycling do have some rules, but they are enough for youngsters. But then again, they aren't interested in grass roots, MTB, road or cross, except for the money it makes them.
#CaptionComp: The Aikido master said, "The bokken, (two-handed wooden sword), must have a splinter". So it was given to Cav., but the splinter made the sprinter drop it.
My knowledge here is limited and dated, but I seem to recall certain car rally-racing categories requiring the car used to be available for purchase, have sold [?] number of cars, and be stock with exception to specific race-safety changes (roll cage, etc). This makes that category accessible by anyone who could afford a car. and make the required safety modifications. Is there any such requirements anywhere in bicycle racing? Example would be your bike has to be a commodity bike and you can only modify seat, stem, handlebars, cranks, and pedals. (ie - fit items)
Caption competition: After his tactic of refusing to follow a straight line in the sprints hasn’t been working lately, Cav demonstrates a new method Jasper Phillipsen can use to win green at next years Tour
On the subject of Pro Race rules v Amateur Race rules. How about, in non Pro Race' rules, Group classes. i.e. Group 1 = carbon, power meters, latest tech., etc. Group 2 = alloy, mech groupset, non carbon wheels, etc. Group 3 = retro/vintage etc., etc., etc. They have this sort of group classes in motorsport, and it seems to work.🤔
#ZwiftWorkout Wout van Aert: VO2 Max Training. I tried to finish it on two different occasions, but failed horribly both times. I seem to remember Sy giving it a shot too, but if memory serves he did it my way 😅
just had a message from Rouvy. There is a group ride this Thursday 6pm with Andrew Feather on Alpe d' Huez (UK time). Now the problem that I have is that I signed up to a race on this exact same route with a 7.05 pm start. so literally just over an hour for the first attempt then a few mins off to grab a snack, pee, get drinks and then start again. Help!!!!
@erlendsteren9466 Thursday hasn't happened yet. Pretty sure that my absolute max effort will still be slower than Andrew just using one leg to pedal whilst clipping the toenails of his other foot
I can get away with not riding fast. Unlike what Dan said about GCN viewer riding fast. I just ride my hardtain mountain bike with 150mm forks, 29x2.6 knobbly tyre blown up to 21psi front and 26psi rear. Or I ride my 160mm rear/170mm front enduro bike with 29x2.5 front/29x2.4 rear blown up to 21psi front and 24psi rear. That is of course if I don't have my 27.5x2.4 rear blown up to 24psi in the rear of my enduro bike.
I dont think the economic race will be the largest factor deciding which kid will get pro-contract, except for that the family must be strong enough to support the kid competing and training. The best kid easily will show true talent on a kilo heavier bike than his richer competitors with professional trainers. I think family makes a much larger difference than economy. We see in many sports how much family is important. In Norway there was a professional footballer, Alf Inge Haaland that married a superstrong sprinter. Their son Erling became the best Norwegian footballer of all time. In cycling the brother of Alexander Kristoff, the son of Vegard Nordhagen and the son of Rune Høydal are going very fast.
So much of the good things in life are exclusively for the rich, so I agree with Dan that juniors at least should be limited to basic equipment so that it can be more inclusive. I could ride 10 miles in 20 minutes, Si, if I could just find a hill long enough!
In the mountain bike world the YT enduro and dh team have the option to run whatever parts the athletes want on their bikes and they can experiment with tyres, suspension etc. I guess individual riders can have individual sponsorships with brands and earn more money.
I’ve always wondered why the winner of the CAPtion competition doesn’t get an actual GCN cap. Just saying! And… why shouldn’t the person pointing this out get a free GCN cap too? 😉 #captioncompetition
Were you aware of this pro cycling "arms race"? 😳 What do you think about it? Get involved down below! 👇
More like a legs race.
Is there a chance that the UCI could follow FIA (F1) and set a limit on team budgets and prices of bikes to keep the bikes truly affordable for the public and level the possibility of success for more teams without stopping the development progress on a more even playing field? Keep up the good work.
Trying to justify the ridiculous cost of bikes by comparing them to cars? Top drawer 'whataboutery'.
9.51 The idea of Dan going for a run wearing just a pair of shoes is somewhat disturbing 😱
Can't call it arms race as the roles of people in question are rather shoulders. You know, the bearers and supporters.
The only time the cost of expensive bikes affects you is if you buy one. I compete relatively competitively as an age grouper on a 15 year old bike I paid $635NZD for. I've done a few of the cheap upgrades Ollie describes in his budget TT build vids. Every race there are people who beat me on more expensive equipment but they probably train harder and/or have more talent than me, and there are always alot of people behind me on bikes that cost 15x what I paid. I love my bike, it fits me and its fast, and i get great satisfaction out of going fast on a budget. My son is getting into racing now and struggled with an old mountain bike in triathlons for a few years before I found him quite a nice road bike for $90NZD it needed a good service to work properly which I did myself after watching some gcn vids. Its a 10 speed like mine so he can use my race wheels (alloy rims with gp5000 tyres) for races, he loves it and also beats lots of kids with much more expensive bikes now. Humans are funny, we get jealous of what others have but not how they got it, We like nice things but its mostly consumerism really. We're not poor and could buy more expensive bikes but I find it hard to justify because I really don't think we'd be any faster and I'd rather my competitors were jealous of my FTP than my bike.
I always say the same thing. The ONLY time a bike price impacts anyone is when they actually purchase a bike. How much one spends is a personal choice.
From a Torontonian cyclist: I doubt you would get an intelligent debate with Doug Ford.
FACTS
You mean Doug Frod.
I agree with you that a cap should be placed on equipment used by juniors when competing! My reasoning being that when I was in my cycling prime in the very late 1970's mid 1980's I was "competing" against youngsters that had the best, tubs, wheels, frames etc and were ferried from one event to another by car, whereas I had to cycle up to 20+ miles to start line then cycle back. There was no way I could compete despite my divorced mother trying to buy me the best;, think Peugeot, 501 frame and steel forks for example. Nor was I able to initially buy the right shoes/ clothes. However, despite the adversity I still competed with respectable times and look back with fondness; one of those times, freezing to death on a Dulwich Paragon Xmas 25 in shorts and a top I'd cobbled together.
There is an arms race in cycling begining, much like F1, the fact that Red Bull is now a main sponsor will merely fan the flames for "World Domination" and could potentially be to the detriment of cycling, but it may also be the beginning of a renaissance? Let's see!
Back in the early 1960s we all road frames with Reynold's 531 double-butted tubes, and sprints and tubs. There probably wasn't much speed advantage between the best and cheapest components. The common refrain was, "It's the man, not the bike". I remember riding from Bournemouth to Salisbury or Southampton in the early hours of Sunday mornings to ride TTs. Then joining the club run to a country pub to eat my sandwiches and drink a few pints of beer or scrumpy. I miss those days.
Good luck having an intelligent conversation with Doug Ford!
There is zero chance of having an intelligent debate with Doug Ford.
Shen -an - doh Ah!!!
#captioncompetition What a shock - Roglic on the floor again
Schadenfreude?
In LA, if you left your "lorry" in a significant bike lane for an extended period of time, no one is going to scream at you for 1/2 hr....you'd probably simply come out to find your tires slashed! (I guess the reasoning is: Makes your point, but uses less energy.)
If I left my Lori out in a bike lane she'd be yelling forever
In the early days of Kart racing one of the most competitive groups enforced a rule whereby any racer in the race could purchase any other competitors Kart for a fixed sum. This meant that no-one spent over the odds on the Kart in terms of upgrades as you could be forced to sell the Kart at the end of the race. This ensured the Kart's were ~99% similar and therefor the winner won mostly on ability with a bit of luck thrown in. It stopped over spends and the ever increasing issue of the winners weren't necessarily the best Karter's but the ones with the deepest pockets. It was very successful for many years and had top notch racing.
There was another race category that did the same with cars. I just can't remember it right now, but it's a lot more recent, somewhere around 2010 if I recall correctly. Let me see if I can find it back.
Found it. 24h Lemons in the US :)
Zwift workouts- the Gorby. I spend all day getting worked up that I have to do it. Then a real sense of achievement for getting through it.
My cousin Lorraine stopped by the Gcn headquarters yesterday, and you even took a photo. Thanks
As an older rider who is getting more and more attracted to things like Audax, I feel like now is actually the *best* time in history to get into the sport. While bikes are more expensive, I think the gap between best and worst has shrunk considerably. Mid tier (and even significantly less than mid tier) bikes are *amazing*. General equipment availability is much better. Consider the array of bags, tools, puncture protection, lights, navigation devices, etc. At no time in history have we had it so good. On top of that, the internet provides access to free and surprisingly high quality training information backed up by actual science. We can even go and read the scientific papers to get as much detail as we want without having to spend thousands of pounds to become a member of a scientific library. World famous coaches even sometimes answer questions from random people on internet fora. So while pro road cycling is getting harder to get into, I'll argue that the "sport of cycling" as a whole is getting dramatically more accessible.
Living in Tokyo for almost 10 years now, in terms of stats I don't know what is considered an "incident", but I know there are up to 3 pedestrian deaths per year due to cyclists, and around 3 per day from cars. You also need to know that a user walking while looking at their phone and walking into a cyclist is always by law the cyclists fault. You can literally walk into a parked bicycle and its the cyclists fault. So how many of these "incidents" can be avoided by the cyclist no matter how much attention they are paying is debatable. Also traffic deaths by cars are increasing year on year for the first time in 8 years. But that's fine, its cars, get those cyclists.
#captioncompetition No matter the sport, Cavendish always drops his rivals.
I coach a team with 50 kids from 9 to 18 - the most valuable thing for them is time: folks willing to take them out on training rides, skills coaching, etc. The bike is secondary. The best kids are able to efficiently use what gears they have and stay focused for the length of their race - skills only developed from hours on the bike regardless of what that is.
#captioncompetition Cav always loves to say Hi-Yah to his fans whenever possible.
Caption: Cav mesmerizes the skeptical Japanese audience with his favorite story about how he landed that big Marlin off the isle of Man coast
I went to a local crit last week in the UK and the one if the juniors turned up on a £8000 Scott foil, things have changed since I started racing 😂
Who is paying for these kid’s bikes? 🤷♂️
@@paddymurphy-oconnor8255 parents mostly but some have part time Jobs/sommerjobb to pay for it like myself
@@paddymurphy-oconnor8255if they are really talented they might already have sponsors even if it’s not a big company I know junior cyclists that get to race high end bikes through support from local bike shops
@@paddymurphy-oconnor8255to succeed in most sports these days you need to be from an upper middle class background.
Football is one of the last sports where the top athletes are from predominantly working class backgrounds
next to our ice rink is a cycling school from the belgian cycle federation. Each saterday 10-12 years old show up on miniature carbon racing bikes, some have even electronic shifting. crazy; but some friends of my youngest son (he's 11) even ride to school on electric bikes for a 2 km bike ride. even crazier
'Damn my hot wrists' - said nobody, ever. 🤣
Bicycle designers, e.g. Mike Burrows, had to go to a sports car company for aerodynamics tech.
I was lucky to be at Motor Industry Research Association when Chris Boardman was in the Climatic Wind Tunnel with Lotus. I had a NDA with MIRA which covered the experience.
I was actually working with the company who supplied Engine Management to Triumph Motorcycles as a Vehicle dynamicist. My job was to assess test vehicles' aerodynamic characteristic to model on a chassis dynamometer, rolling road.
THE best aerodynamicists are at the Formula One teams. The money is stupid. I don't think a bicycle racing team could afford them.
The next level of aerodynamicists are at aircraft design companies. Fast Jets. Eurofighter. Airbus and BAE Systems.
Alas for cycle race teams, I have retired. :-)
#captioncompetition: Cav channels his hidden dragon, Primoz his crouching rider
The last three videos have been absolutely superb. It's hard to find open and relatable content.
Thank you.
Shenandoah (sheh-nhun-dow-uh), we're Americans, you have to put the "uh" at the end.
“Mo-vember” in full effect for Si and Dan… 😂
I’ve been saying the exact same thing about non-alcoholic beers in pubs, they are so expensive and makes you feel there is no in incentive in buying them!
How spooky is that? Both Si & Dan got up late this morning, and neither of them had time to shave.🤪😉😂
Thanks Si , Dan and Isaac , Parlees are amazing ! Did Dr O have any smoky rides ? Lots of wildfires here recently . Be well
#CaptionCompetition: "I feel slow in these pants" - Sir Mark Cavendish probably
When Dan said "what should we come back as, coaches?" May me think coach drivers more like.
Caption:
Cavendish -"Not the ankles! NOT THE ANKLES!"
10 years in on Hack/Bodge and Dan learns "Hey! I should read the captions"
The Gorbie is such a brutal workout on Zwift
How about this for an idea? Don't ban carbon in junior/amateur/lower tier races, but the bike must be below a certain price - frame + components. Each tier could have a different cap. That way, riders would not be buying so much high end expensive equipment, then manufacturers might reduce the prices of the higher end equipment, to try to sell more of it. Would this work, and would it be a good thing?
Aluminium League. All racers must be on alloy frames.
And who is going to determine the price of goods? It will require you to buy all stuff at the same shop, because you can have up to 40% differences in price otherwise.
Time penalties for riders on more expensive bikes.
zwift workouts: The Gorby Extreme and The McCarthy Special.
If you can finish the gorby extreme you're FTP cannot be set correctly - or at least that's what I'm telling myself :')
SST (med) is a less painful way to check 👍
Hello all! I'm uncertain where to ask this, so here goes. Are there not going to be any more GCN Training videos? I like them, and have looked forward to them since I have a "dumb" indoor riding setup. I particularly enjoyed the 55 minute Passo Giau POV one that Emma and Hank did.
#CaptionCompetition Mark cavendish fighting for that 35th stage win
Cycling needs to put a cap on spending (like many sports) to keep all of the teams competitive. Deep packets will always have an unfair advantage if left unchecked.
Caption of the week: cavendish preparing to fight pogacer for beating his record.
Why am I so amused watching you describe Dan's arm movements for the benefit of your podcast listeners in the section based on looking at a photo? It's the small things that make life enjoyable.
👉👉For ALL riders under 18. They should only be allowed to use "Under 18" equipment. "Similar" to Japan's keirin NSJ equipment restrictions.
Many years ago, when carbon tube frames first became available. I saw two Midget (8 to 12 years old) riders on Exxon Graftek (24-inch) bikes.
They were ONLY available to an Exxon Graftek executive. FAIR????
I love it when you both read the same line 😂
Took my daughter to Belgium to race the National Kermesse series last year with top 10’s and top 5’s all travelling from Norfolk in a 16 year old Vauxhall Vivaro and then spending nights sleeping in said van in park ups we could find as we had a very small budget, partially funded by me and mum and my daughters part-time job. Other British girls/women, who could afford to were spending weeks if not months in Belgium, plus the occasional training camp to warmer climes which can’t be funded by themselves or their teams which means it must be family investment
#captioncompetition Mark Cavendish trains for his new career as a Quidditch player
Thanks Eric and Ernie. Fun show.
The Wringer instantly popped into my mind
Shen-an-do-ah...facepalm at Si's total confidence whilst being wrong. ha! ;)
Caption: Mark Cavendish’s audition for Strictly Come Dancing didn’t quite go as planned
For most bike equipment, there are several top tier brands with excellent equipment, and I'd be surprised if variety between top tier equipment was able to change anything about races
Csv 'This is the technique I taught Renshaw to clear a path for me'.
Ha! I just "backed" the kickstarter to recieve 2 sets of the tire pressure sensors... but for my mountain bike and eMTB.
A power meter costs less than one out of town trip to a race now, it’s not at all a barrier to pro cycling. Out of town travel is probably the biggest barrier to becoming a pro that you overlooked.
I've got a good workout my coach asked me to do every now and then, it's called the power hour 😅. An hour at sub threshold and then every 2 minutes it's a 20 second over/under geared effort
Zwift workouts: Circus (part of the 12 week Build Me Up training plan is just BRUTAL... having completed the entire plan and getting full stars on every other workout I just couldn't hold those big numbers for love nor money 🥵 😭
I remember getting a good old fashioned bollocking from a police officer in Belgium for being on my phone whilst cycling!
Si, the unironed sweatshirt is normal but what's with not standing close enough to a razor 😂
I can already see Dan leaving to a pro team in 4 years for 250 grand/year to do team radio... ^^
#captioncompetition Cavendish's training is underway in an arena he just might be able to hold Pogacar back in: upper body strength.
Caption:
Roglic (at the back) thinking:"I understand why Tadej told me it would be fun"
The Wringer on Zwift is commonly known as the hardest one, and I agree with the idea that it isn't really possible if you're not cheating the system/yourself
Of course good tech helps, but I rode my first road season as a U17 rider against other guys with all the best tech and coaches available to them while I was on a bike a tenth the price and even won my first CX race on that same road bike (not saying you should ride cross on a road bike 😅)
I’d say the uber pretzel route is the hardest workout, I’d never zwift for that long to do it.
#captioncontest Mark Caven-dishes out the pain with an attack that knocks his rival’s socks off.
Agree on the kids racing, Dan will have seen it himself at Wessex Cyclocross League, and it happens at RRs too. Richest parents buy high end kit for their kids, I've seen U10s with carbon everything, deep section wheels and aero helmets! Great if you can afford it, but it's a bit off-putting and completely unnecessary. My kids are on second hand bikes but we look after them well, alloy everything, and they do ok, but most importantly, they love it. British Cycling do have some rules, but they are enough for youngsters. But then again, they aren't interested in grass roots, MTB, road or cross, except for the money it makes them.
That was good for my shattered ego after having to abort „the wringer“ on monday. Thanks.
Captioncompetition - Mark Cavendish thinking “retirement must be less painful than this”
Caption: do i have to do this 34 more times?!
#CaptionComp: The Aikido master said, "The bokken, (two-handed wooden sword), must have a splinter". So it was given to Cav., but the splinter made the sprinter drop it.
caption: Cav gets stuck with an after-market aero clothing sponsor from Temu
Caption competition - "...and just like that, Prince William said 'Arise Sir Mark!"
C'mon lads, that bicycle mirror is brutal looking.
My knowledge here is limited and dated, but I seem to recall certain car rally-racing categories requiring the car used to be available for purchase, have sold [?] number of cars, and be stock with exception to specific race-safety changes (roll cage, etc).
This makes that category accessible by anyone who could afford a car. and make the required safety modifications.
Is there any such requirements anywhere in bicycle racing? Example would be your bike has to be a commodity bike and you can only modify seat, stem, handlebars, cranks, and pedals. (ie - fit items)
Caption competition: After his tactic of refusing to follow a straight line in the sprints hasn’t been working lately, Cav demonstrates a new method Jasper Phillipsen can use to win green at next years Tour
#captioncompetition Cav uses the invisible rope move to avoid the leg sweep
On the subject of Pro Race rules v Amateur Race rules. How about, in non Pro Race' rules, Group classes. i.e. Group 1 = carbon, power meters, latest tech., etc. Group 2 = alloy, mech groupset, non carbon wheels, etc. Group 3 = retro/vintage etc., etc., etc. They have this sort of group classes in motorsport, and it seems to work.🤔
#ZwiftWorkout Wout van Aert: VO2 Max Training. I tried to finish it on two different occasions, but failed horribly both times. I seem to remember Sy giving it a shot too, but if memory serves he did it my way 😅
If the sweat band is causing excess heat - that's a win-win: Heat training!
just had a message from Rouvy. There is a group ride this Thursday 6pm with Andrew Feather on Alpe d' Huez (UK time).
Now the problem that I have is that I signed up to a race on this exact same route with a 7.05 pm start. so literally just over an hour for the first attempt then a few mins off to grab a snack, pee, get drinks and then start again.
Help!!!!
Did you go fast? And did you have the option to choose a virtual rimbrake-bike?
@erlendsteren9466 Thursday hasn't happened yet. Pretty sure that my absolute max effort will still be slower than Andrew just using one leg to pedal whilst clipping the toenails of his other foot
@@bikeanddogtripsvirtualcycling I think I could have a fair race with him if he used my old childhood threewheel-bike, and I rode an e-bike.
I can get away with not riding fast. Unlike what Dan said about GCN viewer riding fast. I just ride my hardtain mountain bike with 150mm forks, 29x2.6 knobbly tyre blown up to 21psi front and 26psi rear. Or I ride my 160mm rear/170mm front enduro bike with 29x2.5 front/29x2.4 rear blown up to 21psi front and 24psi rear. That is of course if I don't have my 27.5x2.4 rear blown up to 24psi in the rear of my enduro bike.
#CaptionCompetition 三十六
I dont think the economic race will be the largest factor deciding which kid will get pro-contract, except for that the family must be strong enough to support the kid competing and training. The best kid easily will show true talent on a kilo heavier bike than his richer competitors with professional trainers. I think family makes a much larger difference than economy. We see in many sports how much family is important. In Norway there was a professional footballer, Alf Inge Haaland that married a superstrong sprinter. Their son Erling became the best Norwegian footballer of all time. In cycling the brother of Alexander Kristoff, the son of Vegard Nordhagen and the son of Rune Høydal are going very fast.
Boy, boys, boys,... a lot of silliness here.
Shen-An-Do-Ah
Cav’s latest bib shorts and imaginary shaft business topple the competition 🥴
#CaptionCompetition Cav about to get taught a whole new valuable lesson in getting on the drops.
I thought that it was two holes in the wall, also Dan!
Zwift workout.. the grind finale!
#captioncompetion After conquering cycling Cavendish looks to channel his inner Seagal in order to conquer Hollywood.
Now we know how Mark Cavendish got so good at the Bike Throw!
You both butchered "Shenandoah"
Payback for the way Americans butcher the English language!
Shouldn't it be the Pro- Cycling Legs race ?
So much of the good things in life are exclusively for the rich, so I agree with Dan that juniors at least should be limited to basic equipment so that it can be more inclusive.
I could ride 10 miles in 20 minutes, Si, if I could just find a hill long enough!
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“Oi! Call me the Japanx missile!”
#captioncompetition "As Cavendish knocked his Korean opponent to the ground, the Olympic Committee swiftly awarded him the silver medal"
#Captioncompetition:"I told you I had the most powerful kick in cycling"
On the arms race, hasn't it always been this way. There are always those who can afford better than others and that's not going to stop anytime soon.
In the mountain bike world the YT enduro and dh team have the option to run whatever parts the athletes want on their bikes and they can experiment with tyres, suspension etc. I guess individual riders can have individual sponsorships with brands and earn more money.
If you're feeling particularly ambitious, knock off The McCarthy Special or The Gorby on Zwift
I’ve always wondered why the winner of the CAPtion competition doesn’t get an actual GCN cap. Just saying! And… why shouldn’t the person pointing this out get a free GCN cap too? 😉 #captioncompetition
#captioncompetition Cavendish is training to star in the next Karate Kid movie: The Karate Kid - Cycle On, Cycle Off