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it;s like saab listens and gets feedback from the crims then doesnt address any of it and then the problems never get solved and crims end up just shooting cops all the time in a few weeks because there is no change
Yeah he's a nice guy with no ill intent, but he's clearly doing something wrong, he was Chief of Police during the darkest days of NoPixel, when the PD almost destroyed the server. He also permad his character, coming back straight in using 90% of the meta of his dead character, like how? Yeah he has a lot of PD experience, but I think he should be allowing fresh minds to take the reigns, maybe play a clueless cadet, or go do crim, staying at the top , AGAIN, is just going to lead to the same issue as 3.0, which nobody wants
sorry but this is why saab is a horrible leader for pd. the guy that put spike strips like that gets a "i like the idea next time just make a square" yet johnson was fired for saying he didnt remember saying something in a situation that didn't matter to rp or the server. this sets a future precedent. no wonder pd is already down a shitty route.
He said make a W next time and lets be real moonmoon aka lenny and Mayor Dab is an admin doubt shit would happen to em with blows cause he gets away with stupid shit as funny as it is
@@geedorah7529 no later in the vid he says it would ok to make a square around the crim. and im 100% for cops doing stupid shit that is funny that doesn't END rp for crims immediately. for instance, as a cop you want to tease/taunt crims by constantly tackling them, repeatedly tazing them, even constantly calling out "going for cuffs" but not actually using the mechanic. all that is funny and malding for crims. but the moment you spam cuff 3 times, if they even break the 1st 3, the next one ENDS the rp. lets be honest about the lenny hawk spike strips. what was the need. it is nearly impossible to rescue a crim in cuffs right now. i don't even know if i have seen it in 4.0 yet. so why even bother crossing that line?
In real life police would have opened fire the moment they began to use their vehicles in a threatening manor by wrecklessly driving in the grass & circling the officers, putting their lives in danger. Not to mention they would have immediately secured the suspect inside of one of their vehicles, to keep them out of harms way and to ensure they don't run off in all the chaos. Instead of doing all that, they realized that it's just a game and decided to make as much content out of it as they could. You can't unironically claim one side is in the wrong when the other side is blatantly not valuing their lives.
@@gamingman4275 i don't think you want to go to the in real life argument. i always view the people that bring that up as dumb as fuck. you go by the laws and rules of los santos. you want to start bringing up dumb shit we can go there too.
btw maple lied in this meeting, guy said he got the attempted murder drop to a assault with a deadly for a guilty plea but that isnt what happend 💀the charges were change because of ramee and tuggz, not because of a guilty plea, he got the guilty plea because X didnt wanna go to court, the ego goes crazy and the integrity💀💀💀
not only that, if it werent for ramee and tuggz she would have sent him away for almost 200 months. She did the math wrong and added 50 minutes to his scentence
in about 24 hours i've seen lenny push a non violent guy off a like, 30 meter tall pipe, shoot an unarmed fleeing suspect, and today tower defend with spike strips. The guy's like cornwood (or X for that matter), immune due to ooc clout, which wouldn't be that big of a deal if they weren't firing cops for doing normal police work.
Slacks the Captain this is good police RP. Saab the Head Admin needs to step in and did by saying that wasn’t good then clearly making a joke. But yeah that spike strip shit by an ADMIN is wild and so dumb. Maple then immediately lying should get him canned from “integrity” Management continues to be the major issue with NP.
instructing your cops to "bully them" seems problematic... a bully is a tyrant. maybe he simply meant be aggressive rather than to actually take advantage of the weak... so probably shouldn't tell them to take advantage of the weak.
I find some of these problems so strange, like the devs started from scratch with 4.0 without any feedback from 3.0. Weren't the spikes time delay + temporary on 3.0 so you had to time it to hit a moving vehicle then it would retract? Why is cuffing not a quicktime event for cops too? That would be a good balance to the 3 strikes rule before they instacuff. I could go on and on, but all I hear is yapping and no constructive suggestions.
Bruh this is going to ruin RP for everyone now because the crims are going to escalate this shii and it's not going to be a joke when cops are getting gunned down while fixing their cars
Never watched Johnson, but bro they fired DEN and Johnson and have hawks, ruth and maple, among other shitty cops. jeez. PP or SOZE high ranking now pls thanks. it ruins crim/cop interations.
Yea Johnson deserved to be fire he should get a suspension to I guess he’s the only one whose ever done anything wrong (didn’t say anything about getting a different charge when pleading guilty)
He shouldn’t have attempted murder of a government employee it should have been assault with a deadly weapon at first they could not have proved intent to kill yes he hit them with a deadly weapon doesn’t mean that he was trying to to kill them but harm them yes but it’s called assault with a deadly weapon for a reason
@@mikephillips1043 so if PD hits a suspect with a baton and they get a brain bleed and die the PD was attempting to murder them? Lol, how does that PD boot leather taste?
@@msytdc1577 sometimes yes depending on context. If the cop is chasing down a crim no. If a cop has someone in custody behind mrpd and does it yes. Context friend.
I'm a bit confused on where is this in terms of Ramee? Since when they weren't At All cooperative to knock back charges etc. they said that it is how it is because they didn't catch the main-suspect who was the driver... aka Ramee and he was voice id'd by cops which I would imagine is the reason they would even Have a Main-Suspect that they didn't catch. Didn't give basically anything (in terms of knocking time down or documents) to him as he was a lawyer in the cells and there was like the whole pd sorting it out. So I was thinking it doesn't make any sense if they don't rp here that they suspect Ramee being involved and it being a big deal.. They did say the driver was the not caught main-suspect. Then now he isn't even mentioned in the whole going this over like he wouldn't have been their main-target.. So did something happen in between or is this just bad pd rp where everyone knows and acts like Ramee is ofc a criminal but it isn't investigated/talked openly like they then should? If they act like it then they should talk about it
Voice Id cannot be used for warrants, which means that it's basically useless. They don't even need to entertain the idea as all ramee needs to do is deny the accusation and it's case closed, and tbh, rightfully so. Voice id is not a valid form of id, especially not when you get ppl like myth doing fake voices of other ppl on the server
voice ID is fail RP, thats why they arent pushing charges against Ramee. imagine how boring it would be to play on the server if despite being in disguise and masked up with a voice changer, all it takes is a lazy cop who recognizes your voice to get you put in jail?
@@lewischristie2285 well yes I know cops shouldn't even voice id crims while crims can crims, but we all know how it really goes. Cops voice id and afterwards either makes some wardrobe excuse of seeing using the same one at some random day, whatever lie they can think or it is vaquely rp'd like with Ramee in here. Like can they explain why the driver was their Main-suspect to catch? Ofcourse not. NP cops are just famously bad with id'ing (everything really) and that's why crims still change their voice even if masked. In 3.0 it got into tattoo id's and whatever so petty ones that you can think of. Even with changing voice id'ing. It isn't enough to charge, but if they do play it like it would be enough for suscipion then just rp it out or don't rp it out at all, but don't do that vaque hunch rp'ing that they cannot really back up. Like the driver was our main-suspect. Just reminds me when Ramee one time was lawyer to X and asked from Cornwood how do they know it was JP since the perpetrator was fully masked and in black and they caught JP later having changed clothing. Then Cornwood just said they had seen him in the first outfit a day before, Ramee says yes but the guy was masked how do you know who it is when everyone walks in all black with masks all the time. Esfand didn't really have an answer but just wouldn't budge on it because they wanted to charge him. They cut a lot of time and all that but didn't just admit that yeah we actually made a mistake or not even admit but be like ok I see your point what if we keep like the most minimal charge and time-served. They just constantly voice id, it is what it is. If they talk about main-suspect you have started to rp it out so don't stop now.. after all of crazy charges have been pushed and not cut back time based on not getting the main-suspect.
Ngl I don’t give a Fine Fuck who get fired and dap points and never really did but in this month there is too many Fups and only 2 officers got consequences for it and fired for it and both were Black that is just disFuckingrespectful in my opinion.❤ I might be wrong who knows but I want it to say it anyway
Crims need to just take the L and move on sometimes just like the cops. Sure you could blame cop for using spikes like that but crims shouldn't be driving around trying to "save" someone surrounded by 10 cops in the first place. Criminals need to understand that if you don't want cops to W chase and tryhard all the time than you shouldn't either. Seems like there is no give and take
Why shouldn't they try to save someone? There are counters against that like tazers and tackles. There is no counters to someone being surrounded by spikes unless they allow crims to just pick them up
@@topgeorge6908 Tazers and tackles don't do much against someone spamming a 1 shot melee weapon on a motorcycle. Just like here he would have taken out 2 cops and gotten away if he didn't get spiked. I just think going into 10 cops to get your boy is awkward RP most of the time.
stupid comment, if its true it is true. I really like to watch both side of a chase. its more fun this way. But you cant deny this fact. Cops are very easy on crims. 75% of crims are just Karins. i would like it to see the cops go harder on crims, so you can see the top crims rise harder to the top. @@Soliel75
Why the comment section triggered? What do they expect they're should be nice on criminals who's been robbing people lmao in rp don't make sense... Y'all need some reality check
This just goes to show the “No Nan Left Behind” mindset will always end up changing the way the cops operate on a server. It almost ruined the cops on ProdigyRP Server. Sometimes they just gotta let the cops win without a NVL fight.
Because spikes don't despawn till you pick them up and if you dont tell PD no thats bad now. Every thing will be surrounded by spikes. PD will abuse anything you let them
so its fine to just put spikes on ground and just dont pick them up cuz they dont despawn by them self at that point thats power gaming but since its pd they dont get shit for it lol
if crims are gonna circle a 95 with 3 vehicles the cops can surround a 95 with spike strips. Take the L for the one guy and move on. Crims not valuing life or freedom. Obviously jail times are not long enough if crims will take the risk of trying to save one of their guys who are already in police custody
it;s like saab listens and gets feedback from the crims then doesnt address any of it and then the problems never get solved and crims end up just shooting cops all the time in a few weeks because there is no change
Sounds accurate
Bro has great RP solo, is totally useless as a pd leader. He's an admin that protects terrible cops, OOC. As you said nothing will change
Hes on a powertrip rn because crims cant do anything yet
yuppers
Yeah he's a nice guy with no ill intent, but he's clearly doing something wrong, he was Chief of Police during the darkest days of NoPixel, when the PD almost destroyed the server. He also permad his character, coming back straight in using 90% of the meta of his dead character, like how?
Yeah he has a lot of PD experience, but I think he should be allowing fresh minds to take the reigns, maybe play a clueless cadet, or go do crim, staying at the top , AGAIN, is just going to lead to the same issue as 3.0, which nobody wants
sorry but this is why saab is a horrible leader for pd. the guy that put spike strips like that gets a "i like the idea next time just make a square" yet johnson was fired for saying he didnt remember saying something in a situation that didn't matter to rp or the server. this sets a future precedent. no wonder pd is already down a shitty route.
He said make a W next time and lets be real moonmoon aka lenny and Mayor Dab is an admin doubt shit would happen to em with blows cause he gets away with stupid shit as funny as it is
@@geedorah7529 no later in the vid he says it would ok to make a square around the crim. and im 100% for cops doing stupid shit that is funny that doesn't END rp for crims immediately. for instance, as a cop you want to tease/taunt crims by constantly tackling them, repeatedly tazing them, even constantly calling out "going for cuffs" but not actually using the mechanic. all that is funny and malding for crims. but the moment you spam cuff 3 times, if they even break the 1st 3, the next one ENDS the rp. lets be honest about the lenny hawk spike strips. what was the need. it is nearly impossible to rescue a crim in cuffs right now. i don't even know if i have seen it in 4.0 yet. so why even bother crossing that line?
Lmao how ironic to x and CG viewers when most of them are NVL
In real life police would have opened fire the moment they began to use their vehicles in a threatening manor by wrecklessly driving in the grass & circling the officers, putting their lives in danger. Not to mention they would have immediately secured the suspect inside of one of their vehicles, to keep them out of harms way and to ensure they don't run off in all the chaos. Instead of doing all that, they realized that it's just a game and decided to make as much content out of it as they could.
You can't unironically claim one side is in the wrong when the other side is blatantly not valuing their lives.
@@gamingman4275 i don't think you want to go to the in real life argument. i always view the people that bring that up as dumb as fuck. you go by the laws and rules of los santos. you want to start bringing up dumb shit we can go there too.
btw maple lied in this meeting, guy said he got the attempted murder drop to a assault with a deadly for a guilty plea but that isnt what happend 💀the charges were change because of ramee and tuggz, not because of a guilty plea, he got the guilty plea because X didnt wanna go to court, the ego goes crazy and the integrity💀💀💀
not only that, if it werent for ramee and tuggz she would have sent him away for almost 200 months. She did the math wrong and added 50 minutes to his scentence
Did Lenny get in trouble for that or was is it the classic "ill look into it"
Classic + not black like the two fired PD
@@ItchyBackside And during Black History Month as well SMH 🚩
@@ItchyBackside what? saab only fired black officers?
They should put that quote on the wall of the reception in mission row pd 😂 “I’ll look in to it”
in about 24 hours i've seen lenny push a non violent guy off a like, 30 meter tall pipe, shoot an unarmed fleeing suspect, and today tower defend with spike strips. The guy's like cornwood (or X for that matter), immune due to ooc clout, which wouldn't be that big of a deal if they weren't firing cops for doing normal police work.
Slacks the Captain this is good police RP. Saab the Head Admin needs to step in and did by saying that wasn’t good then clearly making a joke. But yeah that spike strip shit by an ADMIN is wild and so dumb.
Maple then immediately lying should get him canned from “integrity”
Management continues to be the major issue with NP.
If this was a black person saab would have fired him
Love how they failed to mention jp was in tazed animation when the cops shot him
Or that Lenny was aiming for the tires and the other officer assumed this meant OPEN FIRE on JP.
I think officer maple should be fired over Johnson.
Need that photo with the explicit content sticker on it black and white
Hearing this PD talk tactics makes my head hurt
instructing your cops to "bully them" seems problematic... a bully is a tyrant. maybe he simply meant be aggressive rather than to actually take advantage of the weak... so probably shouldn't tell them to take advantage of the weak.
Free Johnson and Denzel
Power gaming by cops , next time they use barriers spikes and build PD on public place 😔
Its wild to speak to a captain like that 0:21,
I find some of these problems so strange, like the devs started from scratch with 4.0 without any feedback from 3.0. Weren't the spikes time delay + temporary on 3.0 so you had to time it to hit a moving vehicle then it would retract? Why is cuffing not a quicktime event for cops too? That would be a good balance to the 3 strikes rule before they instacuff. I could go on and on, but all I hear is yapping and no constructive suggestions.
Copixel 4.000000000000000H 😂
PD constantly metagames
Yea they meta gamed X with the crowbar in the cells 1000% and if there doing it with that there doing it with everything else
they need to put that Kanye song wolves to that photo it will be hilarious😂😂
Bruh this is going to ruin RP for everyone now because the crims are going to escalate this shii and it's not going to be a joke when cops are getting gunned down while fixing their cars
Why did they take a picture of the house key ❤️
Never watched Johnson, but bro they fired DEN and Johnson and have hawks, ruth and maple, among other shitty cops. jeez. PP or SOZE high ranking now pls thanks. it ruins crim/cop interations.
ABsolUTELY! 😅
Ssaab has a massive ego lol
Yea Johnson deserved to be fire he should get a suspension to I guess he’s the only one whose ever done anything wrong (didn’t say anything about getting a different charge when pleading guilty)
So why did MoonMoon become the Mayor again? Actually stupid af. Now the city doesn't have a real mayor
Charges got dropped down because maple got cooked 😂
Same ooc leader. Same issues. Its clear sabb is the cause of all this. Has been ever since he was made leader 3years ago 😂
Bro think he carti😂
JP IS GOJO
Absolute clowns
He shouldn’t have attempted murder of a government employee it should have been assault with a deadly weapon at first they could not have proved intent to kill yes he hit them with a deadly weapon doesn’t mean that he was trying to to kill them but harm them yes but it’s called assault with a deadly weapon for a reason
Yeah if someone gets shot in the leg and bleeds out as well because a bullet to the leg clearly isnt trying to kill...
@@mikephillips1043 so if PD hits a suspect with a baton and they get a brain bleed and die the PD was attempting to murder them? Lol, how does that PD boot leather taste?
@@msytdc1577 sometimes yes depending on context. If the cop is chasing down a crim no. If a cop has someone in custody behind mrpd and does it yes. Context friend.
@@mikephillips1043 he wasn't shot. It'll be someoen whack him in the leg and they charge w attempt murder
I'm a bit confused on where is this in terms of Ramee? Since when they weren't At All cooperative to knock back charges etc. they said that it is how it is because they didn't catch the main-suspect who was the driver... aka Ramee and he was voice id'd by cops which I would imagine is the reason they would even Have a Main-Suspect that they didn't catch. Didn't give basically anything (in terms of knocking time down or documents) to him as he was a lawyer in the cells and there was like the whole pd sorting it out. So I was thinking it doesn't make any sense if they don't rp here that they suspect Ramee being involved and it being a big deal.. They did say the driver was the not caught main-suspect. Then now he isn't even mentioned in the whole going this over like he wouldn't have been their main-target.. So did something happen in between or is this just bad pd rp where everyone knows and acts like Ramee is ofc a criminal but it isn't investigated/talked openly like they then should? If they act like it then they should talk about it
Voice Id cannot be used for warrants, which means that it's basically useless. They don't even need to entertain the idea as all ramee needs to do is deny the accusation and it's case closed, and tbh, rightfully so. Voice id is not a valid form of id, especially not when you get ppl like myth doing fake voices of other ppl on the server
voice ID is fail RP, thats why they arent pushing charges against Ramee. imagine how boring it would be to play on the server if despite being in disguise and masked up with a voice changer, all it takes is a lazy cop who recognizes your voice to get you put in jail?
@@lewischristie2285 well yes I know cops shouldn't even voice id crims while crims can crims, but we all know how it really goes. Cops voice id and afterwards either makes some wardrobe excuse of seeing using the same one at some random day, whatever lie they can think or it is vaquely rp'd like with Ramee in here. Like can they explain why the driver was their Main-suspect to catch? Ofcourse not. NP cops are just famously bad with id'ing (everything really) and that's why crims still change their voice even if masked. In 3.0 it got into tattoo id's and whatever so petty ones that you can think of. Even with changing voice id'ing. It isn't enough to charge, but if they do play it like it would be enough for suscipion then just rp it out or don't rp it out at all, but don't do that vaque hunch rp'ing that they cannot really back up. Like the driver was our main-suspect.
Just reminds me when Ramee one time was lawyer to X and asked from Cornwood how do they know it was JP since the perpetrator was fully masked and in black and they caught JP later having changed clothing. Then Cornwood just said they had seen him in the first outfit a day before, Ramee says yes but the guy was masked how do you know who it is when everyone walks in all black with masks all the time. Esfand didn't really have an answer but just wouldn't budge on it because they wanted to charge him. They cut a lot of time and all that but didn't just admit that yeah we actually made a mistake or not even admit but be like ok I see your point what if we keep like the most minimal charge and time-served. They just constantly voice id, it is what it is. If they talk about main-suspect you have started to rp it out so don't stop now.. after all of crazy charges have been pushed and not cut back time based on not getting the main-suspect.
He was the main suspect up until Lenny called out that they all gave jp the loot, the call was made to focus him, if the chase got separated
Leon sucks
Ngl I don’t give a Fine Fuck who get fired and dap points and never really did but in this month there is too many Fups and only 2 officers got consequences for it and fired for it and both were Black that is just disFuckingrespectful in my opinion.❤ I might be wrong who knows but I want it to say it anyway
I do know there was someone else who got fired but wh0 know why he got fired and I’m pretty sure it was way before any of this
Crims need to just take the L and move on sometimes just like the cops. Sure you could blame cop for using spikes like that but crims shouldn't be driving around trying to "save" someone surrounded by 10 cops in the first place. Criminals need to understand that if you don't want cops to W chase and tryhard all the time than you shouldn't either. Seems like there is no give and take
Why shouldn't they try to save someone? There are counters against that like tazers and tackles. There is no counters to someone being surrounded by spikes unless they allow crims to just pick them up
@@topgeorge6908 Tazers and tackles don't do much against someone spamming a 1 shot melee weapon on a motorcycle. Just like here he would have taken out 2 cops and gotten away if he didn't get spiked. I just think going into 10 cops to get your boy is awkward RP most of the time.
to be honest pd holds back a hell of a lot of the time. i have seen chases where they could've took mr. K down so many times.
Crims malding again and cannot take L. Classic nothing new
Cop viewer spotted . 💀
stupid comment, if its true it is true. I really like to watch both side of a chase. its more fun this way. But you cant deny this fact. Cops are very easy on crims. 75% of crims are just Karins. i would like it to see the cops go harder on crims, so you can see the top crims rise harder to the top. @@Soliel75
Why the comment section triggered? What do they expect they're should be nice on criminals who's been robbing people lmao in rp don't make sense... Y'all need some reality check
Bro said RP and then said reality check 😂. How about you get some help mate
@@stringone5355 isn't RP base on reality ? How dum can u be 😂 take your meds
@@stringone5355 🤣🤣🤣
@@stringone5355👏😂🤦♂️🤯😂
This just goes to show the “No Nan Left Behind” mindset will always end up changing the way the cops operate on a server. It almost ruined the cops on ProdigyRP Server.
Sometimes they just gotta let the cops win without a NVL fight.
idk why people are mad, i'm a crim viewers and spikes were fine, 200iq moove, good for the pd
Because spikes don't despawn till you pick them up and if you dont tell PD no thats bad now. Every thing will be surrounded by spikes. PD will abuse anything you let them
so its fine to just put spikes on ground and just dont pick them up cuz they dont despawn by them self at that point thats power gaming but since its pd they dont get shit for it lol
It's Gta RP no fortnite mate no need to put 90s with spikes around somebody in cuffs
@@bliznak1419 what's the problem ? Plz explain you make no sens
@@ch.3569 are spikes are supposed to "despawned" in real life ? You make no sens
fines should at least triple now
once bank robberies come out, yeah
Fines and times are enough calm yourself cop Andy
if crims are gonna circle a 95 with 3 vehicles the cops can surround a 95 with spike strips. Take the L for the one guy and move on. Crims not valuing life or freedom. Obviously jail times are not long enough if crims will take the risk of trying to save one of their guys who are already in police custody
Cop Andy jail time and fines are long enough