I always found it interesting when people also claim that "explosions in space" are impossible, because a fireball requires oxygen and the vacuum of space has no oxygen. However, all spaceships have an atmosphere INSIDE them. They need to have a life support system, right? That would contain oxygen. Thus, while "explosions in space" might never be as exaggerated and dramatic as they are portrayed by Hollywood, I think most spaceships COULD potentially explode into a fireball, if they were blasted apart by laserfire.
F.O.E., I love it! Now, I've known from credible people that there really is no sound in space but when I watch Star Wars or Star Trek or any other sci-fi movie or show I've always understood the sounds in those productions were just there for cinematic effect only, guess I stand corrected as well from this point on.
I do wonder what changed Ellison's mind regarding the internet. It would be great to here his more recent thoughts on the internet, and if he finds any value in it now, and to what extent?
I'm still fascinated with the sound in space thing. It's interesting to wonder what would be heard if you were inside a craft or vessel and there was some type of event, exterior to the craft or vessel, that would generally within any atmosphere make what could be defined as a sound. Would it reverberate within the hull and into the cabin? Would there be details in the sounds, or just a thump? ... But sound in the vacuum of space, I dunno; I think those guys are theorizing, and I think they're wrong. Good debate, in any case.
The guy son Apollo 13 indicated hearing a lot of strange noise during and after the explosion on board the craft. Lots of panging and debris smacking into the ship.
I've always interpreted laser beam visualisations and sound in space as displays that computer might put up on futuristic head up display screens or port windows. This is so that characters and therefore you the audience interpret what's happening. At least in the shows and fiction that don't explain it and the tech is advanced enough, so I just handwave it. Some fiction does include explanations of the force feedback in their systems and I do like that. A computer could really substitute fart noises in for spaceship explosions, real cheek flappers for capital ships. Just the mindramblings of a Jamook on the internet.
Blame the Tolkien estate which settled allowing the rights for the TV show to be sold. Hilariously enough Harper Collins settled along with the estate. They are owned by News Corps which owns Fox News which decries "woke" shows like the Rings of Power nightly, even though their conglomerate allowed it.
"sound in space" is an excruciatingly dumb thing to complain about. Yes you dont hear big "whooshes," but forest animals don't spontaneously break into musical numbers whenever a princess walks by either. These are stories, not documentaries.
RIP Harlan Ellison 1934-2018
Looks like Mighty Mik's mamma finally caught up to Ellison.
Sound in space...yoh mama!!!
Harlan answers, at 1:05, whether or not we'll be seeing any postmortem books from him. RIP, Mr. Ellison.
I always found it interesting when people also claim that "explosions in space" are impossible, because a fireball requires oxygen and the vacuum of space has no oxygen. However, all spaceships have an atmosphere INSIDE them. They need to have a life support system, right? That would contain oxygen. Thus, while "explosions in space" might never be as exaggerated and dramatic as they are portrayed by Hollywood, I think most spaceships COULD potentially explode into a fireball, if they were blasted apart by laserfire.
F.O.E., I love it!
Now, I've known from credible people that there really is no sound in space but when I watch Star Wars or Star Trek or any other sci-fi movie or show I've always understood the sounds in those productions were just there for cinematic effect only, guess I stand corrected as well from this point on.
1:14 Jon Scalzi is guilty of that.
"The Android's Dream" comes to mind.
(Early Internet Ellison.)
I have no idea why I am thinking this, but:
Who is John Galt?
Harlan Ellison, of course.
I do wonder what changed Ellison's mind regarding the internet. It would be great to here his more recent thoughts on the internet, and if he finds any value in it now, and to what extent?
He just made a yo mama joke…
I used to love you!!!
I'm still fascinated with the sound in space thing. It's interesting to wonder what would be heard if you were inside a craft or vessel and there was some type of event, exterior to the craft or vessel, that would generally within any atmosphere make what could be defined as a sound. Would it reverberate within the hull and into the cabin? Would there be details in the sounds, or just a thump? ... But sound in the vacuum of space, I dunno; I think those guys are theorizing, and I think they're wrong. Good debate, in any case.
The guy son Apollo 13 indicated hearing a lot of strange noise during and after the explosion on board the craft. Lots of panging and debris smacking into the ship.
I've always interpreted laser beam visualisations and sound in space as displays that computer might put up on futuristic head up display screens or port windows. This is so that characters and therefore you the audience interpret what's happening. At least in the shows and fiction that don't explain it and the tech is advanced enough, so I just handwave it. Some fiction does include explanations of the force feedback in their systems and I do like that. A computer could really substitute fart noises in for spaceship explosions, real cheek flappers for capital ships. Just the mindramblings of a Jamook on the internet.
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The Ring of Power tv series is kind of grave robbing J. R. R. Tolkien; they butchered the magnum opus of one of many great writers of fantasy.
Blame the Tolkien estate which settled allowing the rights for the TV show to be sold. Hilariously enough Harper Collins settled along with the estate. They are owned by News Corps which owns Fox News which decries "woke" shows like the Rings of Power nightly, even though their conglomerate allowed it.
"sound in space" is an excruciatingly dumb thing to complain about. Yes you dont hear big "whooshes," but forest animals don't spontaneously break into musical numbers whenever a princess walks by either.
These are stories, not documentaries.