Never, in all my years of listening to /watching Joe Rogan's podcast have I heard Joe be so quiet because he is so genuinely interested in what this man has to share.
@Tobirama Senju The problems are much more widespread. I have too many friends who have done contracting work down South. The issue is the government does not care enough to start executing these dogs in the street for everyone to see. You want change for Mexico? It starts with the executing of people like El Chapo, and others who think they are above the law. You want to cut the head off the snake? You have to get your hands dirty. It honestly would need to be like the movie Sicario and Sicario 2. You need to go completely cold blooded to end the cycle.
@Tobirama Senju I pray for you and your family bro my best friends cousin was killed in Mexico 6 years ago by the Juarez cartel held him for ransom and just ended up killing him after 2 days it's a sad and fucked up situation for alot of innocent people in Mexico and your right white people dont care and never will but there time will come oh there time will come..stay strong my brother and hope you get ur fam outta that horrible situation 💯💯
Cuz this guy can't stop telling long wonded stories lol I like Hari's content but his delivery is a bit much sometimes. The first time he was on Joe got so pissed cuz he literally couldn't get a word in.
Joe was silent cause he trying to keep up with this fucking guy talking so fast. He is suuuuuuuper annoying to listen too. Just get to the fucking point ffs.
Hi Joe, my name is Eduardo Frayre Escobedo, Marisela’s second oldest son. Thank you for showing my mom’s story, as sad as it is, people need to know what really happened and your show tells the story very close to what happened because back in the day when this was recent, the press and media told a bunch of lies.
god bless your mom and sister bro. seen the documentary on netflix. fuck cartels! my people are from mexico city and im sick of these fucks. rest in peace my cousin cesar aka spy from east side longo
I think ending it there, added to the shock. AT LEAST HER STORY WAS TOLD, unlike the other uncountable that died without ever leaving a trace of existence.
For a concise telling of the drug war leading to the condition of present day Mexico (as related to sicarios, etc), Don Winslow just released the third chapter in his VERY well researched drug war saga starting with POWER OF THE DOG going to THE CARTEL and most last week's THE BORDER.
This is the unknown story of hundreds of thonsands of women in Mexico, nos only inChihuahua, but also in other 10 States in México! Every day! This doesn´t go on the news..
obeythesociety yea and now they are complacent with it. It's sad and folks there see that lifestyle as glamorous and cool when it's not. They need discipline and respect for themselves. The Mexicans from last century wouldn't put up with this.
United we stand divided we fall yeah what’s crazy is that people glorify that lifestyle. Certain states have tried to arm the people to stop the cartels but the government gets in the way.
@@unitedwestanddividedwefall3521 ......hmmmm....... so what about France Poland Russia Belgium in ww2. Under Nazi Rule. What about Chine under japanese rule. You do realize there is a point where life simply becomes survival and not living right?
@New Keys ..........or because the reality that a bullet to the head awaits that as soon as your head goes.down to sleep the first day you fight against it. Alotta wannabe revolutionaries on here not realizing the realities of living in a wartorn land.
This is one of the most disheartening, most depressing, and most demoralizing stories I've heard in all the years I have looked into stories that aren't publicized.
if only the story had ended there. After Marisela's killing one of her sons kept investigating, for that Marisela's family business was burned down and her remaining sons received very real death threats for them and their kids, they had to escape and request asylum to the US. Hope I was making this up, look at her documentary. People think about 3rd world countries as places filled with cowards and lazy people, but they don't understand how big, rich and powerful the organizations that traffick Drugs to America and Europe are, they own everything down there and if you decide to confront them they'll destroy everything you love. Even the famous story of Alejo Garza, an elderly man who single handedly had a gun fight to save his ranch from the Cartel and killed several cartel enforcers has a sad twist, when you realize that he gave his life fighting but at the end the cartel took over the ranch from his family. Or there you have the Lebanon mormons who for years fought back the cartel and recently had a truck full of their children burned, or the Self defense groups in the state of Michoacan that were successful when the police was overrunnes by the cartels, but currently are facing a gruesome extermination process at the hands of the mobsters because they don't have money to support their defense, nothing compares to the money the drug game provides, and these animals will kill and destroy everything that stands in the way of the millions of dollars they can make, if they are in a good mood they,ll buy everything and everyone and if they can't buy they'll just take it. It has been more then a decade of open war in the streets of Mexico to prohibit drug trafficking, Younger generations of kids see the cartels as the real power and the only way to escape poverty, most of them come from broken families destroyed by this very war, more deviant, more twisted and violent each day. You destroy a cartel here and a new one with better weapons and training pops up over there, and no one seems to understand that there is a bigger game in place, that even the big banks have been caught red handed willingly laundering cartel money.
I heard about a cartel boss (or someone high up) the other day that chopped up a 6 year old girl alive starting at the feet in front of her parents because the dad did something insignificant. I've personally never heard of anything so disturbing in my whole life. Mexican cartels are beyond wrong in the head.
I was born in EL Paso TX and have lived here for most of my adult life. The Local news have never covered this story. This is the first I am hearing of this story. Not ABC , NBC, or CBS local affiliate. I had a cousin who born and lived in Juarez. He was killed at a park , playing soccer. We were told that he was killed when he refused to give up his soccer ball to Gang members. No one was ever charged and the cops never investigated his death. Now I understand why. It upset me when people say drugs are a victimless crime. Tell that to that poor lady.
My cousin married a black guy, went to Mexico for honeymoon. Apparently cartels shot his head off. My family said the police didnt do anything. RIP Jeff
As a mother to a daughter every hair on my body is standing on end here, I’ve never seen joe so quiet listening to a guest, probably thinking about his own daughters. God bless all these mothers I feel so privileged to have my simple but safe life . I’m so angry that she was shot I’ve burst into tears
@@SaltySouthTexan Liberals are globalist traitors. This is part of reason they lost the election, even with more votes. This country doesn't listen to them. Ever wonder why the suicide capitals of this country are Seattle, Portland, and San Francisco? Liberals are crazy idiots, that's why.
If you live in America and you ever complain about anything, please watch this video and realize how good you have it. My heart goes out to people that live in countries where this kind of thing happens regularly and I am beyond grateful that I live in a time and place where this isn’t even in my radar!!
The Killer of Marisela Escobedo was never arrested, they framed another guy to take the fall and got killed in jailed. The killer of Ruby ( Marisela daughter) never served jailed time for the murder. He died in a firefight with the military ( cartel related and nothing to do with the murder of Ruby). The one accused of killing Maricela is/was serving time in Texas, USA. One of the sons of Marisela saw the killer which was the Brother of Ruby Killer.
Not everywhere, Juarez, Guerrero, and other places are very known for their violence, even Mexicans don't go there, I can't imagine being a tourist and ending up there.
@@josepabloceniceros3483 There are certain areas in Mexico most people avoid, things that are basic knowledge to us. Don't travel to chihuahua at night, don't visit cities cartels are fighting for, stay out certain areas when the sun goes down, etc. People who are already there are mostly stuck there because of work, family, etc. But most mexicans living elsewhere know it's better to just avoid those places. And then you have people thinking all of Mexico is in the same situation as the bad areas but it's not, at least not all of the time
That was an amazing story. She's a warrior on this Earth and she's a warrior in heaven. In the end we all die sadly there's going to be a few that will continue on living after death but in a very bad way. God please protect the innocent. Amen
Mr Hari's memory is purely amazing. Well researched passionate and informative man. I saw a movie about this lady seeking justice for her murdered daughter and finding many other women but were to afraid to seek it also. Truly sad.
I’m from chihuahua, the Zetas who were working with the Juarez Cartel were the ones responsible for all the senseless murders. They both also employed a super large street gang called the Barrio Azteca. The barrio azteca were the ones killing and reaping women, they did it because they had the protection of the Zetas and the Juarez cartel. In 2012 Juarez hired a former military officer named Julián Leyzaola. He analyzed what was going on and it is believed he let El Chapo and the Sinaloa Cartel take over Juarez because he believed the Barrio Azteca (which was employed by Zetas and Juarez cartel) where the ones responsible for all the women being murdered. Well wouldn’t you know it, after a couple of months working in Juarez and after a couple of assassination attempts on his life. Juarez drastically reduced in murders and women becoming missing. With the Sinaloa cartels presence and police working with the Sinaloa cartel things became ok, not perfect but drastically better. Well now that he is no longer police chief in Juarez and now that the state and police are back to working with the Juarez cartel and Barrio Azteca shit is going back to how it used to be. There is a documentary called Mexico’s Bravest Man (2016) it’s on Amazon video but I’m sure you can also find it on TH-cam. It tells the story of Julián Leyzaola and how he helped clean up Tijuana and later Juarez. This documentary exposes all the corruption the Mexican government tries to sweep under the rug.
@@jlujan486 Im willing to bet people use drugs in Mexico and South America also, but as you say, crossing a border (and illegality) marks theb price up expenentially.
I grew up in Juarez in the 1990s. Best place to be during that time. Once the 2000s started the drug wars started and most people that could, left. I left in 1998. I wish the 1990s Juarez could return beautiful city during that decade.
Joe Rogan has mastered the art of sitting there and letting somebody tell a story without being interrupted. It's actually amazing to be able to listen without constant questions etc..
Mexico is a strange place, it hasn’t had a war in over a hundred years yet there is always violence, from the massacres in the 1800s and early 1900s to the Tlatelolco massacre, The Corpus Christi massacre, the rise of the cartels and there remnants still killing each other today. A never ending cycle of brutal violence.
@@James-ty3ef Then its you vs the rest of the western population because those of us with brains know casualties aren't how you decide winners. The objective was to prevent Vietnam from going Commie...... Well Vietnam went Commie. Can't even use FB over there. You're welcome for the quick lesson. #dobetter
Just came from juarez oh man you turn on the tv they show the bodies dead on live tv the streets smell bad but i like how good people treat you they are very kind even tho they live in danger all the time
Most people you run into on a day to day are good people. They may have some bad mannerisms like being too pushy, but it's because their environment has shaped them that way. There are, however, some real bad elements there. When Law and Order doesn't exist, the worst of humanity often comes out in the open. Just a shame because from what I heard and what I remember when I was really young, Juarez was so beautiful to visit. Now it's viewed so terribly.
We hear of stories of crime daily here in the US. Most are gang-related, or petty crimes (in comparison) and we’re terrified (understandably). Then we hear stories like Marisela’s and we realize how truly terrifying it is to live in many parts of Mexico and how bad others have to live their daily lives. We also hear about courageous and brave stories daily. Then we hear about what Marisela did, went through and endured to seek justice for not only her daughter but thousands of others also. It’s incredible, inspiring, heart warming and yet at the same time just down right scary how a mother went up against a corrupt and cowardly government just so that they can do their job. That’s more than devotion, more than courage and more than anger. That’s love. Her story is more than tragic, yes. It’s also proof that there are incredible, honest, hard-working and courageous people in Mexico that are purposely falsely viewed by many of us. Marisela is also a reminder that they too deserve to live as we do, as best we can. Truly courageous woman, Marisela was.
When I was young and perusing liveleak, I came across a video of Mexican cartel members being decapitated via chainsaw by rival cartel. I knew at that moment I would never be visiting Mexico.
@@monicarobles5532 Don't go back but you can't be mad at some "white people" for wanting to make sure the type of people involved with those sorts of videos can't just freely go wherever the fuck they want.
Have you seen them hacking arms and legs off of live people with machetes then beheading them once arm and legless, fuckin ruthless people this is what massive amounts of stimulants and money does to a community!?
Jesus, Sicario 3 just wrote itself here. That is an incredible story with highs and lows and gives huge insight into how luck we are to be in the U.S. great capture Rogan! Thank Mr. Hari for sharing.
@@regulusmine2336 I don't think you watched the entire clip. Hari is blaming the CIA for basically funding the creation of one of the most ruthless cartels (Los Zetas). They were all apart of the Mexican Military and trained US dollars, to become an anti-drug task force. They later flipped sides and became traffickers. Los Zetas used their training and resources to wage war against other cartels to gain control of their territory.
Dude.. Hari simply telling this story deserves an academy award, let alone making a movie not the Escobedo story... RIP Queen... your bravery in a place like Juarez leads me speechless
I’ve followed the drug war for YEARS and this is the first person on ANYTHING who really noted the root of the Zetas. Also noteworthy, the drug cartels ALL went in search of their own US trained and armed paramilitary groups afterward and it was NO problem. We have a school - it WAS called the School of the Americas - in Fort Benning, Georgia where we train latin american paramilitary. It’s insane.
I lost my brother to the Juarez violence. I,m grateful I was able to come over here because over there life is more expensive and more shitty.. It is not balance at all.
el CHAMBA Making a movie is a good way to tell her story to the world so these problems can gain more attentions so that they can hopefully pressure the corrupt state to change an daddress these problems.
@@thenoicemango1827 name one time that a movie started a movement for some cause where people didn't just hop on a bandwagon and just forgot about it. people will be entertained and even moved for a short time and then go back to living their lives. Shit, you weren't inspired enough with this podcast to get up and make a change? No. Youd rather watch a movie cause it's a tragic story that's being exploited for profit. The fucked mentality of bored first world people.
If you can’t deal with listening to bad things, you’ll never be able to deal with bad things and newsflash we all deal with bad things multiple times throughout life. Some worse than others, but you can’t be so soft that stories you can hear about in newspapers will somehow hurt you.
Matthew o'riordan I agree. The cold truth is that things won’t get better until humans wisen up until then things will get worse. Enjoy your meals, your water, get some exercise and rest well.
Particularly terrifying to hear this since I went there as a dumb young kid with some buddies. Went to a hole in the wall bar. After being stared at for 2 hours, we left looking over our shoulders. I thank God nothing bad happened to us while we were screwing around in Juarez. We were so naïve. I'd never go there again.
Im from juarez but I was born with el Paso, Juarez is just a fucking hell, I still have nightmares from where I lived. Good thing I'm not there anymore
I was born in Juarez I grew up in the 2000s Soon I’ll be back to Juarez after years No matter how bad it was My best memories and experiences were there I love Juarez and I’m proud of being Juarense despite of all the bad things
WoW.... never in my wildest dreams I would hear a story like this. Never have I heard Joe Rogan so quite in my life. Such a horrific horrible story. ...a true tragedy
@@karloslowry9043 What? i thought he was an amazing story teller, and he didnt start multiple stories and never end them, he told ONE story... from start to finish, and in an incredibly dramatic way, i think you are either too high to follow it or just a bit dumb.
I work in downtown Juárez, the city is divided by different organizations is inevitable, there's so much demand, but things where handle so much differently in the past, before the war was declared against the cartels
One of the saddest stories of my state (there are more stories like that ocurring here in México). I remember this story back in those days where Juárez was one of the most violent cities in the World (2008-2015), were horrible times when you're just a kid. If you're interesed (people of U.S.) you can watch de documentary: "Las tres muertes de Marisela Escobedo".
I worked for the DA during the drug war in Juarez, one of my university teachers was one of the judges that let Sergio go, that's not exactly how the story went, but the thing is there are a lot of structural problems in Mexico, Mexico was a soft dictatorship up until the 2000's so there were no institutions really, governments just did whatever the president wanted or the governor or the city major wanted, so the cartels grew and grew, until something like Juarez happens, hundreds of druggies with ak's start arriving to town to kill off everyone they suspect works for the local cartel, they kill cops, lawyers, doctors, soldiers, bureaucrats, and the state has no real way to stop them, they get arrested, they get a good lawyer, all the evidence you had against them is not enough, eyewitnesses back up, evidence is stolen or 'lost', so you take them to a judge and you have nothing, and then you have 300 folders on your desk to investigate, no one can handle that, if you're lucky you would get 1 or 2 detectives in your office, we were putting in 12 hour a day shifts and it wasn't enough, and everyday you would have more and more files in your desk from new crimes being committed, local police would arrest people, you'd have no evidence other than the cop telling you they did it and the judge would let them go, this went on for months, the system crashed very fast and the politicians were doing nothing but giving speeches as always, I don't blame the judges or the cops or the army, it was a system failure caused by the remains of that soft dictatorship where the governor thinks he can control everything but doesn't even go out on the street and spends the budget on marketing because the idiot thinks he can become president. that is the mess in Mexico.
After hearing about this woman for the first time i am sitting here stunned about this womans courage: BRAVEHEART should be here nickname. this is the type of person i would want to take a picture with and wait hours and hour in a line to get her signature. where ever she is i hope she and her daughter and all the other victims rest in peace. Greetings from Europe
I live in El Paso, Tx and while I haven't personally encountered actions like these, I know plenty of people who have had family members killed because of mistaken identity. The violence doesn't leak over to this side, but, there have been plenty of times where Juarez was unsafe for anyone. Having heard the clips about legalizing drugs in Switzerland and what happened to Billie Holiday, I think we here in the states should legalize all drugs. We should follow the Swiss and Portuguese examples. What we are doing now isn't working, has never worked, and never will work.
To blame the united states only is a little short cited. Mexico doesn't have the greatest track record with justice before we started mucking around there because of the drug war. The corruption in Mexico is very very deep.
"short cited" "Mexico doesn't...before we started" "corruption in Mexico is very very deep" You're an idiot who can barely form sentences. You do NOT know what you are talking about. Please stop speaking
@@Jason-sg1uo I voice dictated my response from my phone that's why it sounds disjointed. Mexico has a deep history a political violence and corruption well before marijuana was even illegal in United States. That's a fact.
@@Jason-sg1uo Please enlighten all the JRE podcast listeners about the glorious people's Paradise known as Mexico. Make sure you mention the sparkling human rights record of the secret police that were disbanded and the 1980s. Don't talk about the long history of suppressing peasant revolts in the south or the death of student activists. The United States certainly doesn't help Mexico with our stupid war drugs. But, to pretend the Mexican governments structures are not corrupt to the core is laughable. The DEA who spends millions of dollars on drug interdiction in Mexico has admitted that there are virtually no uncorrupted cops. The DEA must choose between the least corrupted cops when running anti-drug operations.
@@Widemouth1832 This is a cheap tactic to try and downplay the influence of the U.S. You're critical of Mexicos history but conveniently go easy on Americas role in all this. Hell even Ronald Reagan said that marijuana is the most dangerous substance in use in America. Our own government will feed us bullshit and you don't think they'd be even harsher on a foreign populace?
i wanted to add what i know to this - it isnt much - i cant help but feel its related; im from san antonio, but during the timeframe johann spoke of (and a bit earlier) i was living in LA - and making frequent drives back to SA as part of my involvement in the family business - and i would stay at a motel in el paso situated between the border and fort bliss army base. every single time i stayed there, i watched and heard double rotor helicopters go back and forth between juarez and the army base -low and without lights. sometimes it was just a few helicopters, and sometimes that shit lasted all night...
Im proud to live in america, my parents are from mexico and from my mothers side shes from a small town and its basically the wild west down there.. Kids aren't going to school because a cartel can come into that same small town and own it for as long as they like.. Its sad that people are suffering period. The further we can keep the cartels from the us the better I pray mexico is in a better place someday because there are a lot of good people down there living in fear at the moment
You should Juarez is not that crazy My family from US comes over every year multiple times to visit And they always have fun here even though US media always says not to come to Juarez due the violence
Zetas didn't start as a cartel, they were the armed wing of the Gulf Cartel, and by proxy the Sinaloa Cartel. they didn't defect from those leaders until the later 2000's when Heriberto Lazcano finally decided they could handle their own drug business while simultaneously ridding their former leaders of their muscle which was they themselves. it was the cause of a extreme wave of violence around 2010-2012
@@alphijr they were Zetas all along but that's just a name. What I'm saying is they didnt begin as a cartel. They were just enforcers, bodyguards and trigger men when needed for the CDG and Sinaloa Cartel. It took them over about a decade to become their own bosses i.e. their own cartel. It's fairly common place these armed wing groups for cartels develop an image that people began to think they're cartels themselves. The Nuevo Leon "Anthrax" group is an example and maybe "La Sombra" as well. And the sense it makes is for the sake of getting information right.
@@alphijr Like what shotgun said. They broke apart. Los Zetas had reigned supreme, special force commandos trained by IDF. They are broken apart now from losing the war with Sinaloa Cartel Federation. CDS (Cartel Del Sinaloa) were allies with Juarez Cartel. Sinaloa Cartel had the Mexican Government and Military help fracture Los Zetas. As of now Los Zetas are in smaller groups fighting each other. Old School Zetas fighting against CDN (A renegade group who broke apart) and Gulf Cartel. So right now CJNG which only took 9 years became first most powerful cartel to ever grow rapidly in history. This group broke apart with Sinaloa Cartel and is at war with them right now. Leader is El Mencho who has ruthless ways with enemies. Sinaloa Cartel is still the top but CJNG rivals them and possibly might surpass them. And now remnants of New Cartel Del Juarez allied themselves to CJNG. More waves of violence in Mexico going to drop records high now.
@@B-Rai87 military, but I guess you could say police as well. They did joint operations with Mexican police forces before going AWOL from the military. And Maxi pretty much explained the entire situation with clarity. CJNG is predicted to be the next top dog in the Mexican theatre of the war on drugs. The infighting going on with CDS between El Mayo (2nd in command to El Chapo prior to capture) and Los Chapitos (el Chapos two sons) has fractured and splintered the organization to the point they're losing hold on some of the most sought after border corridors. Because of it we may even see the end of what's generally agreed upon as the oldest criminal organization in Mexico, The Gulf Cartel. They'd only been holding on because of backing in the form of funding and man power from Sinaloa.
Marisela was a brave woman ,the love she had for her daughter had no limit ,if her daughter would had listen to her both of them would of still be alive ,for the young females hopefully they see the Netflix documentary and learn to listen to their mom and the dad too 95%of the time ,moms and pops just want the best for their kids ,listen to them don’t make the same mistake ruby made and lose their life and destroy her mothers and got her killed as well just for the dumb choices she made and didn’t want to listen to her mom until it was too late,but maybe that had to happen like that cause she woke up so many people the movement she made and kept going after her passing it made all those people stronger and became angry and not scare anymore ,so something good came out of that,her voice reach so many places and a lot of people that can make a diference ,sometimes bad things need to happen so good things and a better future can happen ,so new laws can be pass,so it wakes up people ,that’s what we need ,we keep falling for the lies they tell us when are we gona stand up and say enough before it’s too late ,once they can fully control us is gona be too late to say anything or think of standing up,before we give them the right to control our body’s and brain we must take a stand .
I used to be ignorant to thinking the wall was just wrong. It was more so the way trump was ignorant and his poor choice of words about Mexicans. But the thing is even though the idea of the wall is almost impossible because of the costs to build it and the fact that some terrain wouldn’t allow for a wall to go through it I think the idea of having stricter border security is fair. People and drugs are trafficked because of the stupid cartels. People were outraged when they found out families were being kept in immigration camps but they didn’t bother informing themselves on why. Turns out they were trying to prevent the trafficking of women and children by doing DNA tests and making sure that those claiming to be related were actually related. So wanting to have stricter borders is the best for both sides
Back in the early 80s when I was making trips to Mexico it was already well understood that the cartels would chop your head off...or your baby sisters. My friend getting held hostage and murdered there is what made me decide on a new life.
This is fascinating. How lucky for these two to follow their own rainbows. The stories they tell upon their return are magical yet terrifying and we could get involved if we, us underwhelmed and less hopeful people, wanted to.
Lived in ciudad chihuahua while this was going on. I played pro basketball there. Crazy place but also very interesting. There are bands of apple farmers who are fairly wealthy who have been semi funded by the the military to help track and kill those cartel bastards and keep the streets safe. By far the most eye opening place I’ve ever been to. As bad as it is, the states is beautiful full of amazing people who will risk it all to help you out just a shame that such good people get neglected down there by their own government.
There wasn't 40 murders in el paso last year you liar. I live in el paso. I demand you show your sources. Half or more than half of the murders that were committed here were from soldiers stationed at fort bliss.
@@jackdaniel5229 oh ok lol, the crazy thing is el paso is one of the poorest cities in America but crime is very low compared to other cities it's size🤔
Never, in all my years of listening to /watching Joe Rogan's podcast have I heard Joe be so quiet because he is so genuinely interested in what this man has to share.
@the SUBMARINES its not about dmt so he doesn't know what to say
@Tobirama Senju The problems are much more widespread. I have too many friends who have done contracting work down South. The issue is the government does not care enough to start executing these dogs in the street for everyone to see. You want change for Mexico? It starts with the executing of people like El Chapo, and others who think they are above the law. You want to cut the head off the snake? You have to get your hands dirty. It honestly would need to be like the movie Sicario and Sicario 2. You need to go completely cold blooded to end the cycle.
Layne ThePain I am weak lmao
Dont blame god for donnie drumpf,you sir are a devil worshiper and dont even know it,he's the anti christ.
@Tobirama Senju I pray for you and your family bro my best friends cousin was killed in Mexico 6 years ago by the Juarez cartel held him for ransom and just ended up killing him after 2 days it's a sad and fucked up situation for alot of innocent people in Mexico and your right white people dont care and never will but there time will come oh there time will come..stay strong my brother and hope you get ur fam outta that horrible situation 💯💯
I never saw Joe stay silent and just listen like this. Ever.
There's some crazy shit happening in Mexico that would give Nightmares their own Nightmares.
slade i have.
Cuz this guy can't stop telling long wonded stories lol I like Hari's content but his delivery is a bit much sometimes. The first time he was on Joe got so pissed cuz he literally couldn't get a word in.
shame init.
Joe was silent cause he trying to keep up with this fucking guy talking so fast. He is suuuuuuuper annoying to listen too. Just get to the fucking point ffs.
Hi Joe, my name is Eduardo Frayre Escobedo, Marisela’s second oldest son. Thank you for showing my mom’s story, as sad as it is, people need to know what really happened and your show tells the story very close to what happened because back in the day when this was recent, the press and media told a bunch of lies.
Damn bro fr?
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You on here lying fam. Her child would not be able to speak a inch of English. I followed this woman’s story, corny smh
@@eddiefriday1632 hey bro I hope you're well,from England 👍
god bless your mom and sister bro. seen the documentary on netflix. fuck cartels! my people are from mexico city and im sick of these fucks. rest in peace my cousin cesar aka spy from east side longo
Bruh, how you gonna end it right there.
Right?
Lmao word
Worst edit ever
@@robertacheson5976 I can hear it in Comic Book Guys voice
I know, right??
I think ending it there, added to the shock. AT LEAST HER STORY WAS TOLD, unlike the other uncountable that died without ever leaving a trace of existence.
For a concise telling of the drug war leading to the condition of present day Mexico (as related to sicarios, etc), Don Winslow just released the third chapter in his VERY well researched drug war saga starting with POWER OF THE DOG going to THE CARTEL and most last week's THE BORDER.
Deep.
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Yeah, we don't need a border wall. Let the cartels poor in baby!!
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Walking thousands of miles on foot and fighting. She's a hero that nobody knows about.
Truth. Much respect from a combat veteran and more importantly I’m a dad of 2 precious daughters
@@bradgonzalez8733 thank you for your service. I hope you along with your family have a great life.
This is the unknown story of hundreds of thonsands of women in Mexico, nos only inChihuahua, but also in other 10 States in México! Every day! This doesn´t go on the news..
And for what cost?
@Austin King somehow i know you'll never amount to anything in life
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Thanks for the post
Silverado Kid good kid !
Damn thank you!
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Silverado Kid you sir, are amazing
Everyday life in Mexico, there’s thousands and thousands of stories like this. It’s sad to see so many injustices.
obeythesociety yea and now they are complacent with it. It's sad and folks there see that lifestyle as glamorous and cool when it's not. They need discipline and respect for themselves. The Mexicans from last century wouldn't put up with this.
United we stand divided we fall yeah what’s crazy is that people glorify that lifestyle. Certain states have tried to arm the people to stop the cartels but the government gets in the way.
I agree. It's very sad. They might as well die trying to make Mexico a better place. Such lost beauty.
@@unitedwestanddividedwefall3521 ......hmmmm....... so what about France Poland Russia Belgium in ww2. Under Nazi Rule.
What about Chine under japanese rule.
You do realize there is a point where life simply becomes survival and not living right?
@New Keys ..........or because the reality that a bullet to the head awaits that as soon as your head goes.down to sleep the first day you fight against it.
Alotta wannabe revolutionaries on here not realizing the realities of living in a wartorn land.
This is one of the most disheartening, most depressing, and most demoralizing stories I've heard in all the years I have looked into stories that aren't publicized.
@@NX8234 Thanks. I moisturize.
@@Roman__King haha good one, u ratioed him
if only the story had ended there. After Marisela's killing one of her sons kept investigating, for that Marisela's family business was burned down and her remaining sons received very real death threats for them and their kids, they had to escape and request asylum to the US. Hope I was making this up, look at her documentary. People think about 3rd world countries as places filled with cowards and lazy people, but they don't understand how big, rich and powerful the organizations that traffick Drugs to America and Europe are, they own everything down there and if you decide to confront them they'll destroy everything you love. Even the famous story of Alejo Garza, an elderly man who single handedly had a gun fight to save his ranch from the Cartel and killed several cartel enforcers has a sad twist, when you realize that he gave his life fighting but at the end the cartel took over the ranch from his family. Or there you have the Lebanon mormons who for years fought back the cartel and recently had a truck full of their children burned, or the Self defense groups in the state of Michoacan that were successful when the police was overrunnes by the cartels, but currently are facing a gruesome extermination process at the hands of the mobsters because they don't have money to support their defense, nothing compares to the money the drug game provides, and these animals will kill and destroy everything that stands in the way of the millions of dollars they can make, if they are in a good mood they,ll buy everything and everyone and if they can't buy they'll just take it. It has been more then a decade of open war in the streets of Mexico to prohibit drug trafficking, Younger generations of kids see the cartels as the real power and the only way to escape poverty, most of them come from broken families destroyed by this very war, more deviant, more twisted and violent each day. You destroy a cartel here and a new one with better weapons and training pops up over there, and no one seems to understand that there is a bigger game in place, that even the big banks have been caught red handed willingly laundering cartel money.
@@samaten1386 Puts into perspective why immigration has been life or death for some who live in corrupt countries.
I heard about a cartel boss (or someone high up) the other day that chopped up a 6 year old girl alive starting at the feet in front of her parents because the dad did something insignificant.
I've personally never heard of anything so disturbing in my whole life. Mexican cartels are beyond wrong in the head.
I was born in EL Paso TX and have lived here for most of my adult life. The Local news have never covered this story. This is the first I am hearing of this story. Not ABC , NBC, or CBS local affiliate. I had a cousin who born and lived in Juarez. He was killed at a park , playing soccer. We were told that he was killed when he refused to give up his soccer ball to Gang members. No one was ever charged and the cops never investigated his death. Now I understand why. It upset me when people say drugs are a victimless crime. Tell that to that poor lady.
Drug use is a victimless crime.
My family lives in El Paso, some are from Juarez, I remember going there all my life with no worries until 2000
My cousin married a black guy, went to Mexico for honeymoon. Apparently cartels shot his head off. My family said the police didnt do anything. RIP Jeff
@@MeanLaQueefa exactly the same situation here.
😂😂 my boy said ⚽️🤚😵
6 minutes in I forgot joe was even there
thats bc when the guest is talking about other human lives at stake he gives them respect and doesnt interrupt bc that IS the story of the cast...
As a mother to a daughter every hair on my body is standing on end here, I’ve never seen joe so quiet listening to a guest, probably thinking about his own daughters. God bless all these mothers I feel so privileged to have my simple but safe life . I’m so angry that she was shot I’ve burst into tears
Every hair on ur body stand up even ur ass hair....lmfao
@@alexgudino9410 hahaha stfu 🤡
@@alexgudino9410 come on man she's pouring out here & you make it hella weird
Living on the South Texas border these stories are a everyday thing.
I’m right there with you And yes, it is an everyday thing that the MSM won’t report
Krs Martinez dont brag
@@SaltySouthTexan Liberals are globalist traitors. This is part of reason they lost the election, even with more votes. This country doesn't listen to them. Ever wonder why the suicide capitals of this country are Seattle, Portland, and San Francisco? Liberals are crazy idiots, that's why.
How much is the yayo out there I heard lowlow
Angel Guzman a k 20 000
If you live in America and you ever complain about anything, please watch this video and realize how good you have it. My heart goes out to people that live in countries where this kind of thing happens regularly and I am beyond grateful that I live in a time and place where this isn’t even in my radar!!
Weird how I'm poor and I live in America and I don't sell drugs and behead people.
@@thiscommentwillbedeletedso5211Poverty is vastly different in Mexico than in the U.S.
There is nothing more powerful than mother’s love.
A gun apparently
How about a mother's rage
A gun
A cartels bullet surely destroyed that quick.
The Killer of Marisela Escobedo was never arrested, they framed another guy to take the fall and got killed in jailed. The killer of Ruby ( Marisela daughter) never served jailed time for the murder. He died in a firefight with the military ( cartel related and nothing to do with the murder of Ruby).
The one accused of killing Maricela is/was serving time in Texas, USA. One of the sons of Marisela saw the killer which was the Brother of Ruby Killer.
Sadly this happens and worst stories on a daily anywhere in Mexico!
1min of silence for all the fallen innocent people!
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Not everywhere, Juarez, Guerrero, and other places are very known for their violence, even Mexicans don't go there, I can't imagine being a tourist and ending up there.
TheEtherny “even mexicans don’t go there” lol what?
@@josepabloceniceros3483 There are certain areas in Mexico most people avoid, things that are basic knowledge to us. Don't travel to chihuahua at night, don't visit cities cartels are fighting for, stay out certain areas when the sun goes down, etc. People who are already there are mostly stuck there because of work, family, etc. But most mexicans living elsewhere know it's better to just avoid those places. And then you have people thinking all of Mexico is in the same situation as the bad areas but it's not, at least not all of the time
Jose pablo Ceniceros
I’m Mexican, we don’t go there lol.
There are some places we just avoid.
That was an amazing story. She's a warrior on this Earth and she's a warrior in heaven. In the end we all die sadly there's going to be a few that will continue on living after death but in a very bad way. God please protect the innocent. Amen
Well, this is horrifying.
It's always our fault never theirs. Build the fucking wall.
Building a wall isn’t going to do anything but divide us “hockey nazi”
@@hando88 you deserve a visit
@@hando88 they never explain why "it's out fault". fuck them. me or you didn't do shit.
@@apolonioretana8775 that's the whole point.
I watched this documentary on Netflix it’s ending was heartbreaking that woman was a brave soul Rest In Peace
@@mdstate829 the three deaths of marisela escobedo
Mr Hari's memory is purely amazing. Well researched passionate and informative man. I saw a movie about this lady seeking justice for her murdered daughter and finding many other women but were to afraid to seek it also. Truly sad.
I’m from chihuahua, the Zetas who were working with the Juarez Cartel were the ones responsible for all the senseless murders. They both also employed a super large street gang called the Barrio Azteca. The barrio azteca were the ones killing and reaping women, they did it because they had the protection of the Zetas and the Juarez cartel.
In 2012 Juarez hired a former military officer named Julián Leyzaola. He analyzed what was going on and it is believed he let El Chapo and the Sinaloa Cartel take over Juarez because he believed the Barrio Azteca (which was employed by Zetas and Juarez cartel) where the ones responsible for all the women being murdered.
Well wouldn’t you know it, after a couple of months working in Juarez and after a couple of assassination attempts on his life. Juarez drastically reduced in murders and women becoming missing. With the Sinaloa cartels presence and police working with the Sinaloa cartel things became ok, not perfect but drastically better.
Well now that he is no longer police chief in Juarez and now that the state and police are back to working with the Juarez cartel and Barrio Azteca shit is going back to how it used to be.
There is a documentary called Mexico’s Bravest Man (2016) it’s on Amazon video but I’m sure you can also find it on TH-cam. It tells the story of Julián Leyzaola and how he helped clean up Tijuana and later Juarez. This documentary exposes all the corruption the Mexican government tries to sweep under the rug.
IM SORRY BUT LETS BE HONEST THESE CARTELS ARE BASICALLY USA AGENCIES.
As long as there people needing drugs in the states there will be people in Mexico to get them across and make a 90% profit
What a great comment golden boy, send us the pics you took with the hookers lol
@@jlujan486
Im willing to bet people use drugs in Mexico and South America also, but as you say, crossing a border (and illegality) marks theb price up expenentially.
Yup
I grew up in Juarez in the 1990s. Best place to be during that time. Once the 2000s started the drug wars started and most people that could, left. I left in 1998. I wish the 1990s Juarez could return beautiful city during that decade.
It used to be decent. You could cross the border have dinner and take a break from the heat. It's not the same.
Afirma.. Feliz Anho desde Juarez con balazos en todos lados!
The Mercado was fun. The Strip. The Pronaf. Barrio Chavena
90s Juarez was fun and cheap
Mi Jefito grew up in the 80’s in Juarez
Joe Rogan has mastered the art of sitting there and letting somebody tell a story without being interrupted. It's actually amazing to be able to listen without constant questions etc..
This story is insane.
And this is not even that crazy of a story for cartel standards.
I knew the ending as soon as he started the story.
this is all old news he will not mention the new owner of mexico EL MENCHO... And i dont blame him...
There's thousands of these stories
absolutely crazy how someone could just do that to that poor woman
This is why I love this podcast, people get to share stories like this that won’t get published on any news network
Its been a year and I still think about this...
Originally from Laredo, and his details about the Zetas are accurate AF. Crazy ass shootouts in the summer of 2005.
Mexico is a strange place, it hasn’t had a war in over a hundred years yet there is always violence, from the massacres in the 1800s and early 1900s to the Tlatelolco massacre, The Corpus Christi massacre, the rise of the cartels and there remnants still killing each other today. A never ending cycle of brutal violence.
Bryan Pullingoose 57,000 vs 2 million civilian casualties on both sides, 1.1 million NVA and VC killed. I call that winning son.
This is the real Montezuma’s Revenge
@@James-ty3ef
Then its you vs the rest of the western population because those of us with brains know casualties aren't how you decide winners.
The objective was to prevent Vietnam from going Commie...... Well Vietnam went Commie. Can't even use FB over there. You're welcome for the quick lesson. #dobetter
Well, not 400 years ago they were rolling human heads down pyramids so they've just kept doing what they've always done lol
Genetic memory, the Aztecs were brutal
I called my grandmother yesterday. She said last month there were 150 killed.
Good God, sir@
Just came from juarez oh man you turn on the tv they show the bodies dead on live tv the streets smell bad but i like how good people treat you they are very kind even tho they live in danger all the time
TH C they do that to scare the people from juarez.
Most people you run into on a day to day are good people. They may have some bad mannerisms like being too pushy, but it's because their environment has shaped them that way. There are, however, some real bad elements there. When Law and Order doesn't exist, the worst of humanity often comes out in the open. Just a shame because from what I heard and what I remember when I was really young, Juarez was so beautiful to visit. Now it's viewed so terribly.
“ Los buenos somos más “
Media always shows the bad side but thousands of people in Juarez are kind, friendly, generous and humble
We hear of stories of crime daily here in the US. Most are gang-related, or petty crimes (in comparison) and we’re terrified (understandably). Then we hear stories like Marisela’s and we realize how truly terrifying it is to live in many parts of Mexico and how bad others have to live their daily lives. We also hear about courageous and brave stories daily. Then we hear about what Marisela did, went through and endured to seek justice for not only her daughter but thousands of others also. It’s incredible, inspiring, heart warming and yet at the same time just down right scary how a mother went up against a corrupt and cowardly government just so that they can do their job. That’s more than devotion, more than courage and more than anger. That’s love. Her story is more than tragic, yes. It’s also proof that there are incredible, honest, hard-working and courageous people in Mexico that are purposely falsely viewed by many of us. Marisela is also a reminder that they too deserve to live as we do, as best we can. Truly courageous woman, Marisela was.
That's crazy man, hey have you smoked dmt man?
*MAAAAAN*
Joey Cantu this comment never gets old! Lmaoooooooooo
Joey Cantu “That’s crazy... Ronda Rousey is so dominant though”.
Basers
Joey Cantu lmao
I just cried.. long time since i cried, but hearing she got shot on Xmas eve trying to solve some shit..made me mad and sad
When I was young and perusing liveleak, I came across a video of Mexican cartel members being decapitated via chainsaw by rival cartel. I knew at that moment I would never be visiting Mexico.
Lil Chromosome and white people tell us to go back.
Word
@@monicarobles5532 😂😂🤦♂️
@@monicarobles5532 Don't go back but you can't be mad at some "white people" for wanting to make sure the type of people involved with those sorts of videos can't just freely go wherever the fuck they want.
Have you seen them hacking arms and legs off of live people with machetes then beheading them once arm and legless, fuckin ruthless people this is what massive amounts of stimulants and money does to a community!?
Jesus, Sicario 3 just wrote itself here. That is an incredible story with highs and lows and gives huge insight into how luck we are to be in the U.S. great capture Rogan! Thank Mr. Hari for sharing.
Sicario is the most ficticious drug related movie there is
It's not America's fault. Stop blaming Americans. It's Mexicans killing Mexicans. They're responsible.
@@regulusmine2336 I don't think you watched the entire clip. Hari is blaming the CIA for basically funding the creation of one of the most ruthless cartels (Los Zetas).
They were all apart of the Mexican Military and trained US dollars, to become an anti-drug task force. They later flipped sides and became traffickers. Los Zetas used their training and resources to wage war against other cartels to gain control of their territory.
@@ishe570 , OK thanks. So,... still....they're choices. Not CIA ''s fault either.
right... build the wall so we don't turn into mexico
Dude.. Hari simply telling this story deserves an academy award, let alone making a movie not the Escobedo story... RIP Queen... your bravery in a place like Juarez leads me speechless
I can't even explain to myself what horror I just heard from this man right now.
That ending of the story tho, damn.
yeah.
I was expecting that ending, I just didn't expect the shooter to be to open and casual about it.
This story is so fascinating I always come back to this when my notifications brings it up.
Netflix has a movie on her story now !!!
Name
@@Neger-Mussert go to search and type marisela..
Does it talk about the zetas cartel too or does it have a feminist agenda where it just talks about “machismo”
@@Neger-Mussert the 3 deaths of marisela escobedo
I’ve followed the drug war for YEARS and this is the first person on ANYTHING who really noted the root of the Zetas. Also noteworthy, the drug cartels ALL went in search of their own US trained and armed paramilitary groups afterward and it was NO problem. We have a school - it WAS called the School of the Americas - in Fort Benning, Georgia where we train latin american paramilitary. It’s insane.
I love you
I kept thinking my phone was skipping but this guy just likes to stop mid sentence
I think his emotions got him a few times.
That’s called PTSD.
Emotions. He’s almost reliving that moment.
@Daniel Hertzler nope he's most likely thinking about what he's been through.
@@imposterblockade1826 It is a real technique. Putting a pause helps you gather your thoughts. It also draws you in
I love this mans voice. Quintessentially British.
@Rand McNally He sounds flexible?
What iss quintessentially mean
@@delightk it kinda means the true authentic accent most of us English have...but actually MOST English people do not speak like this at all......
@@davejones4799 thank u
He has a slight north American twist to his accent though, on some words he says the t as a d
Mexico=Gotham city. Mexico needs a Batman
They have one. Its zorro
@@carlosgonzalez6464 Batzorro or El ZorroBat
lol
And we need a wall.
Batmanuel
I lost my brother to the Juarez violence. I,m grateful I was able to come over here because over there life is more expensive and more shitty.. It is not balance at all.
Good for you man. Hope your brother is in a better peaceful place
I’m sorry for your loss, man
There's a documetary in Netflix about this specific case, if anyone wanna hear more about it.
Whats it called?
@@alexontiveros6243 The Three Deaths of Marisela Escobedo
Wow such a sad ending to a great build up, that woman deserves a movie.
Everything is just a means for entertainment to you isn't it
el CHAMBA Making a movie is a good way to tell her story to the world so these problems can gain more attentions so that they can hopefully pressure the corrupt state to change an daddress these problems.
@@thenoicemango1827 name one time that a movie started a movement for some cause where people didn't just hop on a bandwagon and just forgot about it. people will be entertained and even moved for a short time and then go back to living their lives. Shit, you weren't inspired enough with this podcast to get up and make a change? No. Youd rather watch a movie cause it's a tragic story that's being exploited for profit. The fucked mentality of bored first world people.
el CHAMBA Stop being such a bitch. www.raindance.org/the-power-of-cinema-10-films-that-changed-the-world/
On Netflix right now.
What's crazy is that there is literally nothing you can do about these situations due to all the corruption
I dont know how Joe deals with listening to all this stuff. No wonder he got no hair.
What luxery to bury your head in the sand
You become immune to it.
If you can’t deal with listening to bad things, you’ll never be able to deal with bad things and newsflash we all deal with bad things multiple times throughout life. Some worse than others, but you can’t be so soft that stories you can hear about in newspapers will somehow hurt you.
Matthew o'riordan
I agree. The cold truth is that things won’t get better until humans wisen up until then things will get worse. Enjoy your meals, your water, get some exercise and rest well.
Why all you niggas so mad lmao
Most important interview you've ever done!!!
This is the first Joe Rogan clip that made me cry
Really happy how didn’t interrupt this guy like he does so many times
This guy had some interesting stories and I love Joe putting this out there for everyone to see.
Anybody else from El Paso, Tx?
yuppp
Ne El paso
Omar Aguirre nah bro lucky cafe
chingen su madre pochos
viva Juarez!
Mom was stationed there in the 90s, out of all the places I've been to in TX, it wasn't my favorite, now I see shit is getting real down there.
yo soy de Cd. Juarez y esto es totalmente verdadero.
como esa historia hay muchas aqui.
Particularly terrifying to hear this since I went there as a dumb young kid with some buddies. Went to a hole in the wall bar. After being stared at for 2 hours, we left looking over our shoulders. I thank God nothing bad happened to us while we were screwing around in Juarez. We were so naïve. I'd never go there again.
Im from juarez but I was born with el Paso, Juarez is just a fucking hell, I still have nightmares from where I lived. Good thing I'm not there anymore
I was born in Juarez I grew up in the 2000s
Soon I’ll be back to Juarez after years
No matter how bad it was
My best memories and experiences were there
I love Juarez and I’m proud of being Juarense despite of all the bad things
WoW.... never in my wildest dreams I would hear a story like this. Never have I heard Joe Rogan so quite in my life. Such a horrific horrible story. ...a true tragedy
that ended rather quickly.
This man has PTSD from this, no doubt.
They "defected"... yeah exactly. Everything according to plan.
He started a story and told 5 other story's on the way.
You say that like it's a bad thing
@@carlosmagallanes2594 it is to hard to keep track about what hes on because he never finished the first story.
I’m also horrible at story telling. Sometimes I don’t even finish the original story or get to the point. I’m the worst
@@xlnuniex at least you know you do it 😀
@@karloslowry9043 What? i thought he was an amazing story teller, and he didnt start multiple stories and never end them, he told ONE story... from start to finish, and in an incredibly dramatic way, i think you are either too high to follow it or just a bit dumb.
I work in downtown Juárez, the city is divided by different organizations is inevitable, there's so much demand, but things where handle so much differently in the past, before the war was declared against the cartels
I bet you also worked at Knight Transportation. 🤔
Juarez use to be such a fun place in my teens, hop over from El Paso to buy cigarettes and drink. Sad to see what has become of fun border town.
I’ve never noticed Joe so quiet
One of the saddest stories of my state (there are more stories like that ocurring here in México). I remember this story back in those days where Juárez was one of the most violent cities in the World (2008-2015), were horrible times when you're just a kid. If you're interesed (people of U.S.) you can watch de documentary: "Las tres muertes de Marisela Escobedo".
Wrong about the US training Mexican soldiers at Fort Bragg. The GAFE commandos were trained in Guatemala, most of them.
No they were trained inside a volcano
True
That is a tragic story 😢 I can’t believe how close they are to the usa
i was not prepared for that ending
I worked for the DA during the drug war in Juarez, one of my university teachers was one of the judges that let Sergio go, that's not exactly how the story went, but the thing is there are a lot of structural problems in Mexico, Mexico was a soft dictatorship up until the 2000's so there were no institutions really, governments just did whatever the president wanted or the governor or the city major wanted, so the cartels grew and grew, until something like Juarez happens, hundreds of druggies with ak's start arriving to town to kill off everyone they suspect works for the local cartel, they kill cops, lawyers, doctors, soldiers, bureaucrats, and the state has no real way to stop them, they get arrested, they get a good lawyer, all the evidence you had against them is not enough, eyewitnesses back up, evidence is stolen or 'lost', so you take them to a judge and you have nothing, and then you have 300 folders on your desk to investigate, no one can handle that, if you're lucky you would get 1 or 2 detectives in your office, we were putting in 12 hour a day shifts and it wasn't enough, and everyday you would have more and more files in your desk from new crimes being committed, local police would arrest people, you'd have no evidence other than the cop telling you they did it and the judge would let them go, this went on for months, the system crashed very fast and the politicians were doing nothing but giving speeches as always, I don't blame the judges or the cops or the army, it was a system failure caused by the remains of that soft dictatorship where the governor thinks he can control everything but doesn't even go out on the street and spends the budget on marketing because the idiot thinks he can become president. that is the mess in Mexico.
They are definitely to blame. There is good and evil. And when the good people bow to evil, they too become...
After hearing about this woman for the first time i am sitting here stunned about this womans courage: BRAVEHEART should be here nickname. this is the type of person i would want to take a picture with and wait hours and hour in a line to get her signature. where ever she is i hope she and her daughter and all the other victims rest in peace. Greetings from Europe
"The three deaths of Maricela Escobedo Netflix"
I live in El Paso, Tx and while I haven't personally encountered actions like these, I know plenty of people who have had family members killed because of mistaken identity. The violence doesn't leak over to this side, but, there have been plenty of times where Juarez was unsafe for anyone. Having heard the clips about legalizing drugs in Switzerland and what happened to Billie Holiday, I think we here in the states should legalize all drugs. We should follow the Swiss and Portuguese examples. What we are doing now isn't working, has never worked, and never will work.
Ayay
@@JoeSavie What's your solution? Oh,
wait, nothing.
Ivan Esquilin Jr. US don’t want that there’s no money in that
To blame the united states only is a little short cited. Mexico doesn't have the greatest track record with justice before we started mucking around there because of the drug war. The corruption in Mexico is very very deep.
"short cited"
"Mexico doesn't...before we started"
"corruption in Mexico is very very deep"
You're an idiot who can barely form sentences. You do NOT know what you are talking about. Please stop speaking
@@Jason-sg1uo I voice dictated my response from my phone that's why it sounds disjointed. Mexico has a deep history a political violence and corruption well before marijuana was even illegal in United States. That's a fact.
@@Jason-sg1uo Please enlighten all the JRE podcast listeners about the glorious people's Paradise known as Mexico. Make sure you mention the sparkling human rights record of the secret police that were disbanded and the 1980s. Don't talk about the long history of suppressing peasant revolts in the south or the death of student activists. The United States certainly doesn't help Mexico with our stupid war drugs. But, to pretend the Mexican governments structures are not corrupt to the core is laughable. The DEA who spends millions of dollars on drug interdiction in Mexico has admitted that there are virtually no uncorrupted cops. The DEA must choose between the least corrupted cops when running anti-drug operations.
Ummm there is no before the USA started meddling. USA was meddling from the begging, both countries are fucked.
@@Widemouth1832 This is a cheap tactic to try and downplay the influence of the U.S. You're critical of Mexicos history but conveniently go easy on Americas role in all this. Hell even Ronald Reagan said that marijuana is the most dangerous substance in use in America. Our own government will feed us bullshit and you don't think they'd be even harsher on a foreign populace?
Growing up in El Paso I am not surprised to hear this at all. Heartbroken, but not surprised.
That mother was a hero wow. I have to watch the whole podcast now
Why can’t I find the full episode of this!?! 🤬
This was one of the best JREs
That's exactly how it is down there.
Stories like this are why we need to end the war on drugs.
J.R. has the most interesting guest/interviews on the internet. Sleep and work and family time keep me from watching all day. 💯
i wanted to add what i know to this - it isnt much - i cant help but feel its related;
im from san antonio, but during the timeframe johann spoke of (and a bit earlier) i was living in LA - and making frequent drives back to SA as part of my involvement in the family business - and i would stay at a motel in el paso situated between the border and fort bliss army base. every single time i stayed there, i watched and heard double rotor helicopters go back and forth between juarez and the army base -low and without lights. sometimes it was just a few helicopters, and sometimes that shit lasted all night...
Im proud to live in america, my parents are from mexico and from my mothers side shes from a small town and its basically the wild west down there.. Kids aren't going to school because a cartel can come into that same small town and own it for as long as they like.. Its sad that people are suffering period. The further we can keep the cartels from the us the better
I pray mexico is in a better place someday because there are a lot of good people down there living in fear at the moment
my mom is from juarez, my uncle still lives there. last i visited was 2005 . it used to be fun visiting but i wouldnt go now these days
You should
Juarez is not that crazy
My family from US comes over every year multiple times to visit
And they always have fun here even though US media always says not to come to Juarez due the violence
for the first 20 secs of the video i thought my laptop was constantly buffering lmao
Charles Bowden's book Down by the river explored much of the same subject nearly a quarter of a century ago. Different generation, same result.
As someone that’s from Laredo and has lived there almost all his life.....I approve this message 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Zetas didn't start as a cartel, they were the armed wing of the Gulf Cartel, and by proxy the Sinaloa Cartel. they didn't defect from those leaders until the later 2000's when Heriberto Lazcano finally decided they could handle their own drug business while simultaneously ridding their former leaders of their muscle which was they themselves. it was the cause of a extreme wave of violence around 2010-2012
The Zetas were always a cartel. What’s sense does it make to point to a time they weren’t zetas yet?
@@alphijr they were Zetas all along but that's just a name. What I'm saying is they didnt begin as a cartel. They were just enforcers, bodyguards and trigger men when needed for the CDG and Sinaloa Cartel. It took them over about a decade to become their own bosses i.e. their own cartel. It's fairly common place these armed wing groups for cartels develop an image that people began to think they're cartels themselves. The Nuevo Leon "Anthrax" group is an example and maybe "La Sombra" as well. And the sense it makes is for the sake of getting information right.
@@alphijr Like what shotgun said. They broke apart. Los Zetas had reigned supreme, special force commandos trained by IDF. They are broken apart now from losing the war with Sinaloa Cartel Federation. CDS (Cartel Del Sinaloa) were allies with Juarez Cartel. Sinaloa Cartel had the Mexican Government and Military help fracture Los Zetas.
As of now Los Zetas are in smaller groups fighting each other. Old School Zetas fighting against CDN (A renegade group who broke apart) and Gulf Cartel.
So right now CJNG which only took 9 years became first most powerful cartel to ever grow rapidly in history. This group broke apart with Sinaloa Cartel and is at war with them right now. Leader is El Mencho who has ruthless ways with enemies. Sinaloa Cartel is still the top but CJNG rivals them and possibly might surpass them. And now remnants of New Cartel Del Juarez allied themselves to CJNG. More waves of violence in Mexico going to drop records high now.
I thought they part of the Mexican Police..
@@B-Rai87 military, but I guess you could say police as well. They did joint operations with Mexican police forces before going AWOL from the military. And Maxi pretty much explained the entire situation with clarity. CJNG is predicted to be the next top dog in the Mexican theatre of the war on drugs. The infighting going on with CDS between El Mayo (2nd in command to El Chapo prior to capture) and Los Chapitos (el Chapos two sons) has fractured and splintered the organization to the point they're losing hold on some of the most sought after border corridors. Because of it we may even see the end of what's generally agreed upon as the oldest criminal organization in Mexico, The Gulf Cartel. They'd only been holding on because of backing in the form of funding and man power from Sinaloa.
Marisela was a brave woman ,the love she had for her daughter had no limit ,if her daughter would had listen to her both of them would of still be alive ,for the young females hopefully they see the Netflix documentary and learn to listen to their mom and the dad too 95%of the time ,moms and pops just want the best for their kids ,listen to them don’t make the same mistake ruby made and lose their life and destroy her mothers and got her killed as well just for the dumb choices she made and didn’t want to listen to her mom until it was too late,but maybe that had to happen like that cause she woke up so many people the movement she made and kept going after her passing it made all those people stronger and became angry and not scare anymore ,so something good came out of that,her voice reach so many places and a lot of people that can make a diference ,sometimes bad things need to happen so good things and a better future can happen ,so new laws can be pass,so it wakes up people ,that’s what we need ,we keep falling for the lies they tell us when are we gona stand up and say enough before it’s too late ,once they can fully control us is gona be too late to say anything or think of standing up,before we give them the right to control our body’s and brain we must take a stand .
As someone who is from Juárez, this doesn't surprise me at all.
Joe was very open boarders... I have heard him change recently, and I think this guy did it.
I used to be ignorant to thinking the wall was just wrong. It was more so the way trump was ignorant and his poor choice of words about Mexicans. But the thing is even though the idea of the wall is almost impossible because of the costs to build it and the fact that some terrain wouldn’t allow for a wall to go through it I think the idea of having stricter border security is fair. People and drugs are trafficked because of the stupid cartels. People were outraged when they found out families were being kept in immigration camps but they didn’t bother informing themselves on why. Turns out they were trying to prevent the trafficking of women and children by doing DNA tests and making sure that those claiming to be related were actually related. So wanting to have stricter borders is the best for both sides
Back in the early 80s when I was making trips to Mexico it was already well understood that the cartels would chop your head off...or your baby sisters. My friend getting held hostage and murdered there is what made me decide on a new life.
I think theres a documentary of this on Netflix now for anyone interested
So you're telling me Sicario is actually a documentary?
The whole situation in Mexico is just sad....it's scary
Makes an extraterrestrial straight from ATL wonder.
This is fascinating. How lucky for these two to follow their own rainbows. The stories they tell upon their return are magical yet terrifying and we could get involved if we, us underwhelmed and less hopeful people, wanted to.
Lived in ciudad chihuahua while this was going on. I played pro basketball there. Crazy place but also very interesting. There are bands of apple farmers who are fairly wealthy who have been semi funded by the the military to help track and kill those cartel bastards and keep the streets safe. By far the most eye opening place I’ve ever been to. As bad as it is, the states is beautiful full of amazing people who will risk it all to help you out just a shame that such good people get neglected down there by their own government.
Was nearly certain my WiFi was lagging while this guy was speaking😂
Shout out to all the people in Mexico who live in places like this but still have hope. 🙏🏽
Thank you for that do me a favor next time someone u know glorifies any sort of gang or criminal organization point them out to this video👍
@@Champ2103 That's pretty much narcocorrido music? People love the hell out of it?
He's so all over the place while explaining stories.
Over 700 murders last year in Juarez... just 23 in El Paso
There wasn't 40 murders in el paso last year you liar. I live in el paso. I demand you show your sources. Half or more than half of the murders that were committed here were from soldiers stationed at fort bliss.
Just 20 last year in my entire country
@@mikecosta7591 My bad it was 23, I was looking at something else
@@jackdaniel5229 oh ok lol, the crazy thing is el paso is one of the poorest cities in America but crime is very low compared to other cities it's size🤔