EVERYONE Please read this Im about to say: You want to know what a real truther is? This man is one of the great examples of a truther. A truther actually goes out into the field and does the HARD WORK!! Love all of these guys channels!! They Rock!! I would love and honor to stand on their side on a portrait with these guys that actually took their time to go to Antartica and do the work. Beautiful work from Critical Think, Conspiracy Toonz, Dave Mckeegan, Will Duffy and the Flat Earthers (Austin Witsit, Jeranism, Lisbeth). Everyone deserves respect for their contributions. THAK YOU!! THANK YOU!! 😊👍👍👍
The documentary was recorded by and will be produced by Jonathan Mariande, one of the four flat-earthers on the trip. Flat-earthers will be having a hard time calling it a hit piece.
For Emma M: Union Glacier appears to be in an intraplate fold zone in a post-Gondwana sedimentary basin. There are volcanic provinces there, including on the other side of the Peninsula, but that doesn't seem to be one of them. The ice moves because it's sliding off the mountains and out to sea, turning into the Ronne Ice Shelf, under its own weight.
I crunched some numbers considering varying elevations just to be sure elevation doesn't add too much of an error. Any elevation less than 1,000 meters above sea level will have a difference in "g" value of up to 0.003 meters/sec² from the sea level value according to some quick use of good old newtonian mechanics. That means elevation differentials won't be a significant factor. I just wanted to point this out. *EDIT:* A difference in "g" of 0.003 meters/sec² can result in a difference of around 0.3 grams.
Here's my method. Mass of Earth = 5.97x10^22 kg G = 6.67x10^(-11) m³/kg/s² g = G(Me)/r² You can tinker with "r" to vary the elevation and get the corresponding value for "g".
@@JSSTyger These are the equations I use. Search "Effective Gravitational Acceleration at Altitude" on this page walter.bislins.ch/bloge/index.asp?page=Earth+Gravity+Calculator
Traceability refers to the governing body that covers instrument calibration. In the US, that's the National Institute of Standards and Technology. He wants to know that your scales have been recently calibrated in order to validate the measurements. Repeatability refers to the ability to repeat a measurement and get results within the tolerance of the instrument. Since you're taking differential measurements, calibration isn't so critical.
@DaveF-dw6mb ok thanks. Traceability is not relevant in my experiment as I measure relative weights, not absolute. I calibrate the scales at home location.
@@CriticalThink Someone may even want to know what "Class" are your calibration weights or how precise are your weights. If you want to get picky, you should always compare measurement using the same calibration weight. If the weights of the two weights are close enough to each other and considering the accuracy of the scale, it might not matter.
@@DaveF-dw6mb Actually it doesn't matter. I've done this experiment using my phone and a couple of power bricks as my calibration weight. Yes, I always use the same calibration weight in a series of measurements.
Ballpark estimate: 1kg of steel weights displaces about 150mg of air (room temperature, so maybe a bit more in antarctica). The air pressure effects on the measurement would be a fraction of that, via buoyancy. So it might be detectable if you have five significant digits, just.
World record level of difference in air pressure is 25% (from tropical cyclone to siberian high). So a maximum of 37mg, realistically much lower due to low humidity and no extreme pressures.
10:48 Why add barometric pressure etc. So true. And what we see in the graph is a curve that conforms very, very closely to what is predicted for a rotating spheroid. There is no doubt the physical measurements of natural phenomena conform to the expected results. How do Flat Earthers account for this natural phenomenon on their Flat Earth? And I might add, for any daring to answer that question, to answer it you will need a _model_ that can be analyzed numerically, measurably. So be careful what you say.
Here's why the weight drops due to latitude. When we talk about centrifugal force, the "r" value that we use is the perpendicular distance from the Earth's axis to a point on the surface. I can't draw a diagram on a TH-cam comment but you can use geometry to deduce that r = Rcos(Θ) where "R" is the radius of the Earth and "Θ" is the angle from the equator (degrees latitude from the equator). Now we use the formula for centrifugal acceleration, a = v²/r, where "v" is the tangential velocity. Tangential velocity is based on a rotation of 2πr in 24 hours. So v = (2πr)/(24hrs) and v² = 4π²r²/(576hr²). Sooooo....a = 4π²r/(576hr²) = 4π²Rcos(Θ)/(576hr²). At a maximum, this "a" value can be 0.03 meters/sec² at the equator. It can be derived by setting Θ = 0. This "a" value will manifest as a reduction of "g" due to centrifugal acceleration being in direct opposition of gravitational acceleration.
It's not only the centrifugal force - although that's by far most of it. Because it is spinning, the earth bulges a bit at the equator. Therefore, when you are at the equator not only do you experience more centrifugal force - but you are also farther away from the earth's center of mass. Therefore, gravity is slightly less. Not much but it does contribute.
Don't you need to resolve the axisward and equatorward components of gravity, subtract that acceleration from the axisward component and then recombine them to get the measured weight per unit mass?
Just looked on flight radar going back to the 16th and looked at the time it took for that freighter from the moment it starts taking off to the time when it’s starts to Bank left to the time when it’s flying straight again and it matches the times in the video you took.
Ah, but what about Jupiter? Jupiter was at opposition! Did you take into account the gravitational pull of Jupiter? (I'd show the calculated value but you know how they are about digits in comments.)
I have weighed a 500g weight in one room in my flat on a level surface and it weighed 500g . I took it into a nother room and it weighed less I repeated it 3 times and got the same results so the 500g weight test can be to sensitive but you do not need to go to other countries to prove this you can have different densitys ie, hot or cold or less dens air or more dens air will have a great impact on the measurements.
I don't see your results here. Do you have the numbers, or photos? Did you predict what it would weigh in the other room? Did you isolate the independent variable that caused your difference? You mentioned density, but that's just a speculation on your part.
There is No Flat Earth World map that's Not a projection of the Globe with distance scale that matches known Navigation. There is No Flat Earth Model that can be used to make accurate predictions without constant contradictions. There is No experiment that can be repeated, where the variables are accounted for, that demonstrates the Earth is flat, Not a globe. The FE has been 100% falsified, so, why are you still lying?
Okay, now try it in every room, get it as level as you can each time, and then take it to a different altitude and/or latitude and repeat that, e.g. on every table in a restaurant or outside every room door in a hotel or every ten paces along the marina wall somewhere, and compare the mean and standard deviation of your results for each location to the calculated changes. If you get 9.81 N / kg plus or minus 0.001 N / kg everywhere, that's one result. If you get 9.87 N / kg plus or minus 1.35 N / kg everywhere, your scale or your method sucks. If you get lower weight at lower latitude and at higher altitude, that's a very different result from having the same range of weight measurements at every location.
@cyal8er02 no, that's not correct. We were there to observe and record the 24 hour sun. Mission accomplished. The live feed was just a bonus. There was never any promise of a live feed. I don't know who told you that. It's false.
@CriticalThink why the hell would we believe the word of someone when we go by evidence... that's what we were expecting, a video with the 24hr goals was put up on candice owens podcast page on rumble.. so you're trying to tell me that was not what was agreed to? We dont blindly believe anyone thats why the video was supposed to prove it.. but they were not even "there" 24hrs before the video was deleted. Frauds all of em.
@@cyal8er02 There is half a dozen Antarctic based that have live feeds to external cameras. So, there is Many 24+hour Sun video's, and you are just denying evidence to Lie. Why are you a liar?
Dude watch the 24hr long form 360 video and watch any vehicle arrive or leave camp2. They travel a long long long way away. And then there is Wills drone that he fly a mile up. Your desperation is showing.
Did you really put “an article” where you meant to say “in Antarctica”? Is this the level of care you would use if you were entrusted with making the same measurements as CT?
@Anthonypoddam here's what you and a few of your flat earth buddies could do. ...take part in one of the yacht races that goes around Antarctica. ...You and your buddies can ground your vessel on Antarctica and go searching for your dome and/or ice wall. Chop, chop, get busy.
It all adds up to me. I have also been to Antarctica way back in 2001 and saw the same thing as do another 100,000 people a year. Doesn't add up? No, you didn't get to see the results you wanted. It is what it is......come to terms with it.
This trip has been documented magnitudes more than your average family vacation. So if these guys didn’t go to Antarctica, then no family has ever been to Disneyworld.
@Pops-i4o - You are so negative about this trip and are commenting everywhere. If you don't believe the trip, why don't YOU go and film it and prove them wrong? Unless you can or have done the experiment yourself, you have no right to be calling out others. This is something you can do yourself. There are 1000's of crying Flatties who I'm sure would fund your trip. What are you waiting for?
Some very nice photos mate
So good to see you back home C T... What you have done for the case of reality is beyond compare.... Great job👍👍
EVERYONE Please read this Im about to say: You want to know what a real truther is? This man is one of the great examples of a truther. A truther actually goes out into the field and does the HARD WORK!! Love all of these guys channels!! They Rock!! I would love and honor to stand on their side on a portrait with these guys that actually took their time to go to Antartica and do the work. Beautiful work from Critical Think, Conspiracy Toonz, Dave Mckeegan, Will Duffy and the Flat Earthers (Austin Witsit, Jeranism, Lisbeth). Everyone deserves respect for their contributions. THAK YOU!! THANK YOU!! 😊👍👍👍
"A truther actually goes out into the field and does the HARD WORK!! "
Yep.
The documentary was recorded by and will be produced by Jonathan Mariande, one of the four flat-earthers on the trip. Flat-earthers will be having a hard time calling it a hit piece.
A hard time calling it a hit piece... It will be easy for them, nothing will change, just call it fake, and he's a shill, not hard at all.
For Emma M: Union Glacier appears to be in an intraplate fold zone in a post-Gondwana sedimentary basin.
There are volcanic provinces there, including on the other side of the Peninsula, but that doesn't seem to be one of them.
The ice moves because it's sliding off the mountains and out to sea, turning into the Ronne Ice Shelf, under its own weight.
It must've felt so surreal to be there, a one in a lifetime experience for sure! Wish I could've been too.
I crunched some numbers considering varying elevations just to be sure elevation doesn't add too much of an error. Any elevation less than 1,000 meters above sea level will have a difference in "g" value of up to 0.003 meters/sec² from the sea level value according to some quick use of good old newtonian mechanics. That means elevation differentials won't be a significant factor. I just wanted to point this out.
*EDIT:* A difference in "g" of 0.003 meters/sec² can result in a difference of around 0.3 grams.
@JSSTyger so going by the WGS84 model the elevation differences are measurable, and the measurements match this.
Here's my method.
Mass of Earth = 5.97x10^22 kg
G = 6.67x10^(-11) m³/kg/s²
g = G(Me)/r²
You can tinker with "r" to vary the elevation and get the corresponding value for "g".
@@CriticalThink I edited my original comment.
@@JSSTyger These are the equations I use. Search "Effective Gravitational Acceleration at Altitude" on this page walter.bislins.ch/bloge/index.asp?page=Earth+Gravity+Calculator
Flerfers: have you done your measurements with the scale? What does your model predict? What does reality do?
Food to see that you made it back CT. Also, wonderful photos.
Wow. Did not expect a violation of McToon's second flerf law. Congratulations!
Jeran has not posted any video or pictures. When he saw the sun lighting the sky south of Punta Arenas he knew it was game over.
he did release parts of his gopro videos on mega
Traceability refers to the governing body that covers instrument calibration. In the US, that's the National Institute of Standards and Technology. He wants to know that your scales have been recently calibrated in order to validate the measurements.
Repeatability refers to the ability to repeat a measurement and get results within the tolerance of the instrument.
Since you're taking differential measurements, calibration isn't so critical.
@DaveF-dw6mb ok thanks. Traceability is not relevant in my experiment as I measure relative weights, not absolute. I calibrate the scales at home location.
@@DaveF-dw6mb repeatability, I got that in droves
@@CriticalThink Someone may even want to know what "Class" are your calibration weights or how precise are your weights. If you want to get picky, you should always compare measurement using the same calibration weight. If the weights of the two weights are close enough to each other and considering the accuracy of the scale, it might not matter.
@@DaveF-dw6mb Actually it doesn't matter. I've done this experiment using my phone and a couple of power bricks as my calibration weight. Yes, I always use the same calibration weight in a series of measurements.
Ballpark estimate: 1kg of steel weights displaces about 150mg of air (room temperature, so maybe a bit more in antarctica). The air pressure effects on the measurement would be a fraction of that, via buoyancy. So it might be detectable if you have five significant digits, just.
World record level of difference in air pressure is 25% (from tropical cyclone to siberian high). So a maximum of 37mg, realistically much lower due to low humidity and no extreme pressures.
Excellent work Mr CT!
42:24 the freighter is an Ilyushin-76 TD
Was hoping the whole trip would be over shadowed by Witsit riding one of them mountain bikes down a kilometer deep Crevasse 😷😷
10:48 Why add barometric pressure etc. So true. And what we see in the graph is a curve that conforms very, very closely to what is predicted for a rotating spheroid. There is no doubt the physical measurements of natural phenomena conform to the expected results. How do Flat Earthers account for this natural phenomenon on their Flat Earth? And I might add, for any daring to answer that question, to answer it you will need a _model_ that can be analyzed numerically, measurably. So be careful what you say.
Here's why the weight drops due to latitude. When we talk about centrifugal force, the "r" value that we use is the perpendicular distance from the Earth's axis to a point on the surface. I can't draw a diagram on a TH-cam comment but you can use geometry to deduce that r = Rcos(Θ) where "R" is the radius of the Earth and "Θ" is the angle from the equator (degrees latitude from the equator). Now we use the formula for centrifugal acceleration, a = v²/r, where "v" is the tangential velocity. Tangential velocity is based on a rotation of 2πr in 24 hours. So v = (2πr)/(24hrs) and v² = 4π²r²/(576hr²). Sooooo....a = 4π²r/(576hr²) = 4π²Rcos(Θ)/(576hr²). At a maximum, this "a" value can be 0.03 meters/sec² at the equator. It can be derived by setting Θ = 0. This "a" value will manifest as a reduction of "g" due to centrifugal acceleration being in direct opposition of gravitational acceleration.
It's not only the centrifugal force - although that's by far most of it. Because it is spinning, the earth bulges a bit at the equator. Therefore, when you are at the equator not only do you experience more centrifugal force - but you are also farther away from the earth's center of mass. Therefore, gravity is slightly less. Not much but it does contribute.
Don't you need to resolve the axisward and equatorward components of gravity, subtract that acceleration from the axisward component and then recombine them to get the measured weight per unit mass?
The only things flerfers say is "nuh-huh". As always, no reasoning, no explanations, no evidence, no nothing.
where is the video from antarctica showing the scale readings pls ct
Do the folks in antartica test the ice on a regular basis, to ensure no new cravasis emerge around camps?
Just looked on flight radar going back to the 16th and looked at the time it took for that freighter from the moment it starts taking off to the time when it’s starts to Bank left to the time when it’s flying straight again and it matches the times in the video you took.
Can you make a sun dial with the scale on the equatorial plane, to show what the 24-hour sun in Antarctica is like in Australia?
Ah, but what about Jupiter? Jupiter was at opposition! Did you take into account the gravitational pull of Jupiter?
(I'd show the calculated value but you know how they are about digits in comments.)
You might need to check the battery on your smoke detector. I hear a beep once in awhile.
Edit: I just heard it mentioned in your stream.
I have weighed a 500g weight in one room in my flat on a level surface and it weighed 500g . I took it into a nother room and it weighed less I repeated it 3 times and got the same results so the 500g weight test can be to sensitive but you do not need to go to other countries to prove this you can have different densitys ie, hot or cold or less dens air or more dens air will have a great impact on the measurements.
I don't see your results here. Do you have the numbers, or photos? Did you predict what it would weigh in the other room? Did you isolate the independent variable that caused your difference? You mentioned density, but that's just a speculation on your part.
Quite obvious you don't seek the truth, the opposite of your channel name.
I can almost guarantee you that the other room is not level. Did you check level with a proper levelometer type device?
There is No Flat Earth World map that's Not a projection of the Globe with distance scale that matches known Navigation.
There is No Flat Earth Model that can be used to make accurate predictions without constant contradictions.
There is No experiment that can be repeated, where the variables are accounted for, that demonstrates the Earth is flat, Not a globe.
The FE has been 100% falsified, so, why are you still lying?
Okay, now try it in every room, get it as level as you can each time, and then take it to a different altitude and/or latitude and repeat that, e.g. on every table in a restaurant or outside every room door in a hotel or every ten paces along the marina wall somewhere, and compare the mean and standard deviation of your results for each location to the calculated changes. If you get 9.81 N / kg plus or minus 0.001 N / kg everywhere, that's one result. If you get 9.87 N / kg plus or minus 1.35 N / kg everywhere, your scale or your method sucks. If you get lower weight at lower latitude and at higher altitude, that's a very different result from having the same range of weight measurements at every location.
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So no 24hr long live video?
24hr long live video for what?
@CriticalThink the whole point to the trip was so we would have a live 24hr eyes on the sun. It was started and then deleted.
@cyal8er02 no, that's not correct. We were there to observe and record the 24 hour sun. Mission accomplished. The live feed was just a bonus. There was never any promise of a live feed. I don't know who told you that. It's false.
@CriticalThink why the hell would we believe the word of someone when we go by evidence... that's what we were expecting, a video with the 24hr goals was put up on candice owens podcast page on rumble.. so you're trying to tell me that was not what was agreed to? We dont blindly believe anyone thats why the video was supposed to prove it.. but they were not even "there" 24hrs before the video was deleted. Frauds all of em.
@@cyal8er02 There is half a dozen Antarctic based that have live feeds to external cameras. So, there is Many 24+hour Sun video's, and you are just denying evidence to Lie. Why are you a liar?
Is the group photo cut and paste?
No it isn't... What's wrong with you?
Jenna, you're insane and need professional help!
And make one for Antarctica too, to show the difference.
Nobody's saying you weren't an article but maybe a studio
@@Anthonypoddam did you see a studio anywhere??? I was there and I didn't.
Dude watch the 24hr long form 360 video and watch any vehicle arrive or leave camp2. They travel a long long long way away. And then there is Wills drone that he fly a mile up.
Your desperation is showing.
Flerf tears. Poor deluded sap.
Did you really put “an article” where you meant to say “in Antarctica”? Is this the level of care you would use if you were entrusted with making the same measurements as CT?
@Anthonypoddam here's what you and a few of your flat earth buddies could do.
...take part in one of the yacht races that goes around Antarctica.
...You and your buddies can ground your vessel on Antarctica and go searching for your dome and/or ice wall. Chop, chop, get busy.
If you thought you could get away with this it's too funny!!!!!!!!
@@Anthonypoddam get away with what!!!!!!!
Flerf tears. Poor deluded sap.
Cry harder
You know things are not adding up.Hope you can answer much questions?????????????????
@@Anthonypoddam what doesn't add up exactly???????!!!!
Maybe you can expand on that. Things not adding up? Which things ?
Flerf tears. Poor deluded sap.
It all adds up to me. I have also been to Antarctica way back in 2001 and saw the same thing as do another 100,000 people a year. Doesn't add up? No, you didn't get to see the results you wanted. It is what it is......come to terms with it.
This trip has been documented magnitudes more than your average family vacation. So if these guys didn’t go to Antarctica, then no family has ever been to Disneyworld.
How long you plan on milking this dead horse
How long do you plan to be a science denying idiot? 😂😂
FE is a dead horse yes we all know.
@Pops-i4o what's your problem dude? Why are flat Earthers such horrible people?
@Pops-i4o - You are so negative about this trip and are commenting everywhere. If you don't believe the trip, why don't YOU go and film it and prove them wrong?
Unless you can or have done the experiment yourself, you have no right to be calling out others. This is something you can do yourself. There are 1000's of crying Flatties who I'm sure would fund your trip. What are you waiting for?
How long do you plan on denying reality and trolling for a living?