CBR600 Reverse Trike Part 7
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The gas tank location is perfectly fine. People have been riding motorbikes with their jewels right onto the gasoline tank for more than a century and kids are still being conceived. Most cars have the tank right under the back seats and kids are still being conceived. Simply try to install the battery and some other heavy stuff on the other side, so you'll be ok with the weights from left to right
I liked your response so much I deleted mine :)
Amen, I was about to say to put it under the steering column lol
I guess we shouldn't tell the scaredy cats about the F1 cars that had front engine and had the drive shaft pass right through the driver's legs, with their ass sitting probably less than 3 cm away from it. :D
I was thinking more about weight distribution being thrown off and affecting the handling.
I agree there is nothing wrong with the tank location; however I would consider other options. I would mount it over the rear wheel.
Unlike a motorcycle in the event of a bad accident, the driver will be hard pressed to get away from the fuel. Also there is no firewall like in a car to separate the occupants and give them those precious seconds to take off restrains and exit the vehicle.
Dude welds a pressure-tested aluminum tank with tig after having not done tig for a number of years, and pulls it off like it's nothing. If that's not an indication of how good of a welder this guy is, then I don't know what is.
As someone who has tried to TIG weld and pretty much failed because I can't get both my hands and feet to work together, I would say you are doing a great job. The more you use that new machine you will get better. Like I have said before, forget the haters. They are just jealous that they can't do the things you are doing in that small shop.
I agree. Could you imagine if he had a huge shop what he could do. RBW is a guy everyone should support. He has the best work ethic I have ever seen, did I mention the dude's skill. One of a kind.
@@brianrhubbard Yeah I have a 40x50 shop and don't build half as many cool things as he has.
@@Iann128 We gotta make a pact. If you or I ever hit the lottery and give this guy a million dollars I bet you another million that he wears the same clothes but will have a bad ass shop.
Well he was using a finger trigger great upgrade so no need for foot pedal failure you might want to buy one
@@noidontthinksolol well something are definitely different from the states and europe with tools and any type of trigger like pedal or hand trigger is an upgrade because the other tig welder that don't have those features you have to strike the tip to get it to start.
as a rather new to the game fabricator, i very much enjoy you videos they inspire me to learn more. thank you for the inspiration and keep doing what you are doing
Since you installed the radiator at an angle you might be able to put a shroud around it to force airflow over the increased surface area. I like the gas tank a lot. It would be cool if you now made an aluminum battery/electronic component box for the other side to even out weight distribution and to make it sort of look like it matches also.
Thanks for the consistent uploads dude. 👍
Could also double as a shifter and/or switch gear console..
Gold
Long as the radiator has a Shroud around it to force in air an angle actually gives it more surface area .
Or a good fan with over 1000 cfm would do just fine.
True but a cool shroud could double as a spoiler if you add one ontop too
You should install an idle fan on the rad if you are worried about airflow, or just a fan or two.
Awesome,
Thank you, PRIME WELD!!!
THANK YOU FOR HELPING THIS GUY OUT!!!
Tank is awesome. Not any worse than a motorcycle where you're hugging the tank. Would be cool to see a similar shaped box on the other side with a shifter mounted and hand brake.
For leak tests, pressurize the tank as you have done, then submerge the tank in a tub of water. No bubbles = no holes.
About the comments on your exhaust, a correctly flowing 4 into 1 header will make optimum power up in the powerband and would be nice to have on a high revving 600. The easiest solution is a quality after market collector header and turn it upside down and run the system over the top. Go karts have done this but there probably isn’t room here and might look f-d up. Your 4 into 2 is fine, don’t worry about it. It just sacrifices top-end power.
The tank is fine, lots of enduro Karts had fuel tanks on the sides. You could use part of that room on the right (drivers right) for a aluminum electrics box. Looking good.
I am happy to see this project is back
Hi Chis real nice build on those headers keep up the great builds and be safe and well out there.
that exhaust looks so sick
Awesome work, gaz tank is fine there, also dirtbikes now are placing the tank under the seat. Keep it up
I am happy u finaly working on this beast
size, shape and location of the gas tank are absolutely fine ... remember that on every bike you are pretty much lying on the gas tank ... the problem with it is that at half the tank without any inside baffle or gas tank foam you will kill the engine when braking or cornering sharp left ...
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Do I remember correctly, somebody makes fuel tank foam that can be stuffed through the filler hole in several chunks.
@@ridermak4111 yeah the foam is the easier solution as an afterthought but multiple channels with one way hinged baffles build in are more effective and take less volume then foam ... i mean baffles like in race fuel cells or oil pans ...
Nice tank glad you got ac/dc tig. Only 3 settings you need to worry about is balance (leave it in the middle) one way melts the tungsten more but keeps it clean the other way melts the alloy more but the tungsten will become dirty quicker I put mine slightly positive bias . Then the amps seems like you have that sorted . And finally post flow which is useful if you don’t have a pedal you can regulate the amps with the trigger leave it at about 6 seconds and as it drops off add wire then hit the trigger to heat again. Longest message ever!
Congratulations on that amazing welder
Best thing you can add to your welder is a bench mount torch hanger. Make one that will hold multiple tools. Drills/Mig and Tig/Air tools and anything else you use. This can save you the cost of new ones and keep down time at a minimum.
glad to see it back in the shop
Chris- on remounting your exhaust/headers; hang the engine exhaust port end, but do not tighten it down- install all the pieces and work back to the engine. That way all the "strain" will be taken from the parts. What has happened is that the engine exhaust flanges are not quite seated as they were when you tacked it all up. You have had it all on after you finish welded it also, so your manifold is not likely your fitment problem. Sometimes you have to trust that you do know more than the dumb ole metal! Props for the new welder; my Lincoln (the only reason this "no welding" sack passed at all!) cost nearly twice that. I'm too broke to fix that ow, but I was impressed with your first up efforts at aluminum. A minor suggestion; when you visualize the parts , like the fuel tank, think about bending as many of the facets into larger panels- it will leave fewer inches of welding (or in my case leaking) to do and to finish off if needed. Do what you do- I have popcorn, and my popper stands ever ready to pop more popcorn!
Hi, I'm French and I'm your TH-cam channel and I love your job, I'm starting a welding training boilermaker, you motivate me a lot and thank you for your content🙏😉
I’m so happy you finally got a Tig.. I bought mine from watching This old Tony... can’t wait to see how you progress!
I was thinking 2 big intakes for airflow off those triangles above the engine on either side would look menacing and provide great flow... great work and to those of us who don't, you DO NOT suck at welding
Man this build is so sweet one of my new favorite builds
Nice job with the tank exhaust looks good too
Love the fuel cell! Looks great, out of the way. Only thing I would change is adding a low sloped section for the pickup.
Now we all want to know the Reason Chris...
Joking Great Job! Love the B Reel!!
Should the tanks have baffles to help the fuel from sloshing around?
Yes, it should have baffles to stop sloshing and also reinforce the tank, but "too late".
I'd get some gas tank foam and stuff in there to keep it from sloshing, since it's already sealed. Should work great, racers of all kinds have been using it for years.
@@drew657 Good idea.
its not a full on race bike so its not that big of a deal if it was a full on race bike it would be stupid not to have baffles and a fuel mat.
@@phalanx3803 he could easily starve the carbs just turning sharply tho..
Finally the reverse trike 🙏
Thanks for the update. I hope you get recognized for your work man, keep it up
"we're not driving cross country"
Well not with that attitude you won't 😂😂
Lol
The gas tank looks great....glad to see you didn’t use two tanks.... now the other side can be a battery box with extra space to hide wiring & electronics....just a thought
I used to own the same tarp shed but it flew away one morning but great video 👍
Excellent, finally getting along with the trike. Good to see! Great work, it’s coming along good. Good luck with all the controls and throttle. It’s killing me on my trike build right now.
I’m using a heavy duty push pull cable to a handle for the shifter. Throttle is giving me issues. Love to see your fix on that. Keep at it we are rooting for ya.
You never cease to amaze me man.
Great job, I have a tig200. I bought it a year and a half ago. I have welded about 3". I ordered a huge supply of tungsten for the next time I try it haha.
That gas tank looks like a perfect spot for a cup holder to set on top of it !!!!
Headers are going to be very restrictive at the collector's also I would highly recommend purging the inside when welding to eliminate sugering
Blow through is the problem by not purging the pipes... making the inside more restrictive... Surging happens when the TIG aint set up properly
@@scottbowler6780 BS, sugering will happen on the inside of the tube and has nothing to do with setup and everything to do with oxidation which is why you need to purge the tubing while welding. The restriction is from 2 tubes of the same size merging into a one tube the same size as the 2.
John McRae, you’re 100% correct. The stainless will sugar on the inside of it’s not purged. It has to have gas coverage on both sides. I also agree with the length of the runners, and the collector/merge pipe is going to be problematic. Will it work? Sure, but not up to it’s potential, and there’s a 100% chance of the stainless welds failing far sooner than they should without purging. I love this guy though, and I appreciate his passion, but he’s still learning as he goes along.
@@georgegeorge7847 my only intention is to inform Chris not criticize.
John McRae, I know, and I agree with you. I was just saying you’re right in what you said. Chris is going to go on to do great things.
Wow tidy job, love those headers.
I've been waiting to see this beast all finished up. On another note,all these views with only 4K likes? Come on people,it literally takes one second to hit the like button, it really does help these guys out for us to like and subscribe. If you support the videos and channels you watch,a simple like and subscribe is the least you can do,get it done you ingrates.
Your a awesome welder! Love your builds, so cool!
uhh, little late but wouldn't fuel tank baffles be a good idea?
Fuel tank foam stuffed through the filler neck is a reasonable solution
Could fill it with sponge baffle.
What they said lol
With the tank being more long than wide, side to side slosh isn't much of an issue. With that shape of a tank, it'll only really be a problem with accel/decel. I'm sure he's fine without surge baffles or foam.
Soon time for you to get a real shop, albeit I like the feel of keeping it real. Great work.
Awesome upload dude! The tank and headers look amazing. If you create a dummy (matching) tank for the right side, you’d have some storage for the battery, maybe a small reserve (or container) fuel tank, tools/gloves/glasses, etc... Keep doing what you do!
Nice tig welding after such short time!
Was that a shout out I just heard for This Old Tony?
Great job, well done Chris! 👍😁
those gas tank welds look sick
You really need to start installing BAFFLES in your tanks!!! also I would rubber mount that as Aluminum tanks tend to crack from vibration!
For correct tuning of the exhaust cylinders 1-3 and 2-4 should be mated together to equalize exhaust pulses.
I think you’re gonna have a lot of fun with rhat TIG setup. Can’t wait to see what you make
Damn bro u got 3 streetbike powered projects.nice keep it up
Interesting choice for a gas tank location, I was thinking over the wheel was where you'd put it, where you chose is just fine. I'm surprised to didn't put baffles in the tank to keep the fuel from sloshing around as much.
4 cylinders on a go cart!🤩
Genius! Can't wait to see it finished! Great job bro
You should have incorporated cup holder into the front of the gas tank...lol. you should put in another tank because you're gonna find you like driving it and you will take it farther than you expect right now. Don't worry about tank placement. If you were riding a motorcycle, you would be hugging your tank anyway. God work son!
Collected observations on reverse trikes. I have been fascinated for years by these and have seen many design details that don’t make sense. The biggest one that bothers me is tires. If it doesn’t have a very tricky and expensive tilting mechanism in the front end, and most don’t, car tires make sense, bike tires make no sense, wear out very quickly, and don’t provide nearly the grip that a sports car tire would.
Steering geometry is all car, no bike and requires an understanding of caster, camber, toe-in, Ackermann principle and maybe more I’m leaving out.
Chain drive is an advantage to the home fabricator as it allows a very wide swing arm and tire/wheel via a jackshaft moving the drive sprocket out and the bonus of easier final drive ratio solutions.
There’s a bright green single seat in Canada that is still my favorite. TH-cam search reverse trikes and you’ll find it.
Anyway, just my thoughts, and I’m really looking forward to this one. 😎🤜🤛
Awesome project, loving the series 👍 Please look at the differences between pressure testing with gas (air) and fluid, just from a safety perspective if things go wrong 😉 Stay safe and keep the builds coming...
Gas tank looks good and the location is ok. My need a sump pickup area so you can always have fuel to where you need it
Pretty crazy what u can make with a welder n some time, looks amazing n ur skills with metal work is beyond my tiny brain
This is very cool project!!! Thx for sharing
Just an idea brother....make your electronics box on the other side that mimics the gas tank. Might get a little weight balance that way 😉 Great place for power/accessory switches keeping everything dry and serviceable in one location.
Excelente video como todos los demás, muy buenos proyectos 👍👍👍Saludos desde Costa Rica 🇨🇷🇨🇷🇨🇷
Just like always! Another, top notch video! I'm subscribed to over a hundred different channels. rather B welding is my favorite! I'm all ready looking forward to seeing your next video! Awesome!
14:27 That light flares😍😍
You might want to consider rubber mounting that tank. Aluminum work hardens from the vibrations and cracks, usually right next to the mounting tab welds.
That's some beautiful work - but you need to go back and do it again. A/ you need baffles in the tank for strength and surge control and B/ you must put a firewall between you and the tank.
Could make a tank that fits the shape of the top of frame above the radiator. But that tank is dope too.
I cant remember if I commented this already in a previous video but you should look up online about sheer points when building a roll cage. I'm not sure how much you worry about safety. sheer points are an integral part of building any roll cage. its basically lining up your roll cage so that if a tube comes into your main hoop it lines up with a tube on the opposite side of that main hoop. It isn't specifically meant for tubes connecting to the main hoop it applies to all tubes that come to an intersection. I see alot of tubes intersecting on your builds and there are alot of sheer points. just something to think about. Love your builds man keep up the good work
I bought one of those welders last year! I love it! Works great, I did swap out the pedal with one from USA Weld. I think the “fabricator series” TH-cam guy (Justin?) has a review and recommends what pedal part number works.oh wait.. looks like they got rid of that crap pedal that they used to come with! Forget what I said.. you have the good pedal! Also 6061 has a positive review of that welder. Got mine on Amazon last year for $775 delivered.
I had a 68 ford truck with a gas tank in the cab, behind the seat. I moved it, to the box. I would put another bar beside the tank, were its exposed. Otherwise, I think your fine. In the German, ME 163 Jet Fighter, they squeezed the pilot between two gas tanks. The funny thing was, the jet fuel ignited when in contact with fabric. The pilots were none to happy.
Looks great I think that's a good spot for
The gas tank no different than a motorcycle
If you'll alternate where you weld as you weld I think you'll find that you won't see as much distortion as you encountered. Spot weld one side then do the side opposite. Move a few degrees, spot, move 180 degrees, spot and so on. Doing long runs on one side without numerous tack welds will result in it pulling towards the weld. Watch your time lapse of the collector welds and you can see the top of the collectors pulling back towards your head as you welded the wedges on the inner curve.
Your builds are awesome man!! Keep it up!!
This old Tony is awesome.
Man!!! I wish I could buy this...looks amazing man !!
Finally back on reverse trike realy happy to see that
tip for finding leaks in a tank pressurize it with air then dunk it in a tub of water and you will see the bubbles. it much easier and less tedious then spraying it all over with soapy water.
not laughing at your misfortunes but the ending clip of your welding had me rolling. lmao!
Buying that tig welder is the best move you made bud.🤟👍 your build quality just went up dude keep up the great fabricating dude
Should also check out some of 5150s videos
Super job. Looks nice.
Easy fix for the tank, just use the foam blocks they make for fuel cells in race cars. Throw a few in the tank WOLA! No sloshy sloshy fuel.
Always a pleasure
I’ve been looking forward to this build it’s going to be so awesome
Dude u kick ass even if it’s ur first time or not.
Great work looks perfect! I would recommend to backpurge everytime you do tickvelding, just make yourself some samples to see the difference, greetings from Germany
Congrats on your new equipment. Just be careful.
The one and only time I ever used tig, even with a proper helmet, I got the worst case of flash burn I have ever had.
1:46 Rather B unboxing - now that's a channel I'll sub too
Awesome job brother!
I like the videos, but might need a bigger playlist for your music. (good style, it fits your work well)
Cool Reverse Trike Build. I've followed most of you builds.
Go on with this project, it looks fantastic, congratulations for the good job :D
everyone on TH-cam: ToT taught me welding
Sweet welding Machine.
Finally, another episode of the Reverse Trike. :))))
The mounting brackets on the tank are a stress riser. Might want to put some rubber washers on both sides. My motorcycle has an aluminum tank and it is completely isolated by rubber mounts.
Gas tank location is great.
Did you consider a twin tank setup wrapped around the back of the seat and around the driver. Would give more space for fuel and would balance the reverse trike out when she's fuel of juice ready to fly
Chris Perfect work