*Timestamps:* 00:00 - Intro 00:59 - EF Dawah Panel join 01:45 - Catching up & discussing current events 04:33 - Interesting story about the Kathisma church 10:07 - *Young Welsh (Christian) joins* 11:28 - Is Islam a branch of Christianity? 🕌 15:10 - Islam being the Religion of the Prophets ☪️ 19:30 - Jesus' teachings vs Christianity ⚖️ 31:41 - *Monzur (Christian) joins* 34:46 - Name of God in Christianity vs Islam 🕋 36:20 - Issues with God having a Son ⚠️ 42:14 - *Gemmes (Agnostic) joins* 42:39 - Arguments in favour of Agnosticism 🗣️ 44:08 - Debunking the Arguments 🙅🏻♂️ 47:36 - Analysing Nature of the Necessary Being 🔍 53:15 - Scrutinizing Gemmes' skeptical beliefs 🔬 1:00:22 - Problems with Skepticism & Naturalism ❌ 1:04:14 - Explanation of Theory-Ladeness 💬 1:10:26 - Refuting the claims of Gemmes 👎🏻 1:13:11 - Dawah & Advice to Gemmes 📢 1:28:23 - *Hegoes4show (Agnostic) joins* 1:30:05 - Angel Gabriel's episodes with Prophet Muhammad ﷺ 1:36:44 - Angel Gabriel's 1st episode with Prophet Muhammad ﷺ 1:42:23 - Claim against Prophet Muhammad ﷺ's episode with Angel Gabriel 1:45:18 - Debunking the claim 🙅🏻♂️ 1:50:40 - Refuting the claim of Islam being from Satan ❌ 2:05:40 - Islam identifying & refuting Paganism ☪️ 2:18:35 - Debunking the claim of Idolatry in Islam 👎🏻 2:46:38 - *Frank (Christian) joins* 2:47:18 - Claim about Moses pbuh's story in the Qur'an 2:51:14 - Refutation of Frank's claims 🙅🏻♂️ 3:11:31 - Advice & Dawah to Frank 📢 3:14:59 - Debunking Frank's claims ❌ 3:23:32 - Pastor Jason joins: Audio issues 3:24:49 - *H (Muslim) joins* & appreciates the Panel 3:30:14 - *Isaac (Christian) joins* 3:30:57 - Claims about Child marriage in Islam 3:32:38 - Refutation of Isaac's claims 👎🏻 3:36:48 - Age of Marriage in Christianity vs Islam 👰🏻♂️ 3:54:35 - Wisdom of Age of Marriage in Islam💡 3:58:15 - Closing Remarks & Wrapping Up ✅ MashaAllah ❤️💛💙 Fabulous Stream 👍🏻👌🏻 _May Allah ﷻ bless you all and accept your efforts._ 🤲🏻
I’ve said this before…. Imrān has one of the most analytical and methodical minds active on social media platforms….genuine intelligence exhibited every time.👊
"When the missionaries came to Africa they had the Bible and we had the land. They said 'Let us pray.' We closed our eyes. When we opened them we had the Bible and they had the land." Jomo Kenyatta.
Disclaimer: The making of this video may have resulted in the loss of countless brain cells (credit: Frank Szanto). It took a month worth of crossword puzzles just to recover some of those cells-the rest flat out refused to return to a world where Frank still exists.
If you are finding that your brain cells are dying off at a rapid rate, I suggest you read the Bible instead of the Quran. You will be getting the original story instead of the corrupted version, especially in the case of Exodus, and it is set out in chronological order. It could be that straight thinking promotes neuron regrowth.
@@JesusisaMuslim You are unable to produce rational arguments, so you resort to abuse. The fact is that the Quran contains many retellings of Bible stories - with contradictions. It is not the word of God.
@@frankszanto That's like me saying the Jews reject the New Testament and New Testament copies OT. The fact is that the Qur’an is final revelation. Jesus was not a filthy pig eating trinitarian. Christianity is a 4th century roman pagan cult. Your relying on 4th century Greek manuscripts written by unknown authors.
People like hegoes4show In my opinion try and waste time to spoil the video and to frustrate the panel, the panel showed Amazing patience to this troll like behaviour, many people including me would not entertain someone like this for such a long time. The black stone does not have much significance, Muslims only worship GOD ALMIGHTY AND NOTHING OR NOBODY ELSE. Great to have you back thankyou, your patience is saintly Gentlemen I applaud you.
@yasirmomani5846 I think hegoes4show was subtlety wasting time and trying to spoil the video as well as trying to frustrate the panel, If i was a betting man I would say he probably does make videos against Muslims. Thankyou.
IN GARDEN OF GATSEMANE JESUS CHRIST SET EXAMPLE FOR US HOW WE SHOULD ALIGN OUR WILL TO GOD'S WILL IN TIMES OF TRIALS AND HARDSHIPS,THIS IS WHAT WE CHRISTIANS TAKE FROM WHAT JESUS CHRIST DID!!
@@toxsick27 Why would I be embarrassed? I have pointed out clear contradictions and errors in the Quran, such as those in the six retellings of the Moses story. It is very clear the 3 surahs say that the magicians became Muslims (obviously an embellishment), and 3 say that they didn't. Ijaz was just stonewalling in the face of overwhelming evidence. How does this make me a hypocrite?
Um no frank. It's just your comprehension skills are very bad. Ijaz is definitely a stone wall you can't seem to climb because his foundation is Quran.
@@toxsick27 You should Google some of my academic papers. You will be amazed at what someone with such poor comprehension skills can do. But as for Ijaz and his attempt to spin the meaning, look at Surah 10:83: But NO ONE believed in Moses EXCEPT a few youths of his people, while fearing that Pharaoh and their own chiefs might persecute them. To any literate person, that means the only people who believed Moses were some youths of his people. That excludes those who were not his people, such as Egyptians. And by the way, Surahs 27, 28 and 40 also confirm this.
After I have read the Quran, I realized that all what humanity needs is this heavenly law. “The legislation of Quran will spread all over the world, because it agrees with the mind, logic and wisdom.” - Leo Tolstoy .
The 'Slave Bible' was a highly edited Bible produced in 1807 in London for use by African slaves. Two are held in the United Kingdom, and one is currently on view at the Museum of the Bible in Washington, D.C.
It's so satisfying to watch Dr. Imran and brother Ijaz finally dismantling his claims, his arguments and his basic foundation down to discover the core problem - Frank just can not comprehend what he's reading.
@@myuzairy7324 When exactly did they dismantle my claims? Can you explain why Muhammad told the story, or rather extracts of the Moses story six times? And in spite of their stonewalling, there is a clear contradiction. In Surah 7, 20 and 26, the magicians become Muslims, which is of course an embellishment on the original story in Exodus. And the other three passages in 10, 27 and 28 agree with Exodus. Read them for yourself. And that was just the half of it. There is also the error about when Pharaoh said the male children were to be killed. And how exactly did the Egyptians die? Were they thrown into the sea? And why did Moses' mother put him into the Nile? Muslims can live in denial all they like. The Quran has passages copied from the Bible - with errors. Muhammad was not very good at telling stories.
@@myuzairy7324 I think it is the other way around. Muslims seem to read the Quran without thinking. Take for example the story about Solomon's corpse on a stick in Surah 34. Any thinking person can see this story is nonsense. How could a king die, and no one noticed for months? And is your god one who spends his time playing tricks on the jinn?
1:30:05 - Angel Gabriel's episodes with Prophet Muhammad ﷺ 1:31:50 1:44:10- Claim against Prophet Muhammad ﷺ's episode with Angel Gabriel (Angel not introducing self) 1:45:20, 1:48:14, 1:52:04, b1:53:16, 1:56:50, 2:02:25 2:18:35 - Debunking the claim of Idolatry in Islam 2:22:47, 2:25:00
Frank's heart seems to be made of stone, he has so many double standards it's unbelievable. He will literally throw the Bible under the bus because of his hatred for Islam.
if he were sincere, God will guide him no doubt about that, it is a promise from our Lord. "Allah keeps firm those who believe, with the firm word, in worldly life and in the Hereafter. And Allah sends astray the wrongdoers. And Allah does what He wills." Quran 14-27, However If he were not, it means either he is blinded (for hypocritical way of life, or major sins committed ) and he is left to his own devices .. all this from verse of the Quran: "And whoever defies the Messenger after guidance has become clear to them and follows a path other than that of the believers, We will let them pursue what they have chosen, then burn them in Hell-what an evil end!" Quran 4-115 there plenty statement explaining why some are guided (the sincere ones who look for the truth) and why some are not (the one who defend their traditions, money, jobs (clergies ), and place it above God's path, ) I think Frank has chosen his traditions (forefathers' way) over the truth ( his salvation) which won't help him on that day nor a chance to amend what he has preferred.. the exchange is huge loss : he tries his best to distort the truth despite being shown over and over his errors in his research and assumption. May God guide him, have mercy on him and all of us. Amin
Well thank you for calling me a champion. Do you have anything to say in defense of the contradictions in the Quran which I raised? Can you even tell me why the Quran retells the Moses story seven times - and every time is different?
@@frankszanto Give it up mate....anyone with half a brain can see every time you come on that stream, you get rinsed by the panel...I don't know why you do it...unless you really are a drongo !!
Because of the Intro Choir, I thought I was in a church and entered a Christian podcast by mistake. I even had to double check twice to make sure😅. I am not sure if this is good or bad because.
3:39:04 AGE OF MARRIAGE IN THE BIBLE: The binding of Isaac on the altar in Moriah (Genesis 22:9); Abraham informed of Rebekah's birth (Genesis 22:20-23); and Sarah's death aged 127 (Genesis 23:1-2). Since Isaac was 37 at his mother's death, he was 37 when Rebekah was born. Isaac was 40 when he married Rebekah, Rebekah would be 3 when the marriage took place (because 40-37=3)
During an interview with Angelika Neuwirth, the distinguished Professor of Qur’anic studies, she argued that the Qur’an has never been successfully challenged by anyone, past or present: "No one has succeeded, this is right… I really think that the Qur’an has even brought Western researchers embarrassment, who were not able to clarify how suddenly in an environment where there were not any appreciable written text, appeared the Qur’an with its richness of ideas and its magnificent wordings."
@@frankszanto Wrong. The Bible wasn't well known, it was known by some Christian Arabs but they were not the majority of Arabs in the area or listened to much. The pagan Arabs were the majority in the area and Arab poetry was the main thing transmitted. The poets were like modern day pop stars, no one but Christians would have cared about the Bible in that area. No.2 The COMPLETE Bible was not available in Arabia until after the death of prophet Muhammad Salalahu Alayhi Wa Salam. Post evidence of a complete Bible in Arabia from the 6/7th century. No.3 Majority of Arabs would have been illiterate, so unable to read. Memorization of poetry, recitation of poetry, of family lineage, of animal lineage etc, were their forte'. The Arabs still breed the best race horses due to great knowledge of pedigree, lineage of their horses.
@@ElyasQuick1 I think even you would know that the Book of Mormon was not around in Muhammad's time. However, it is clear that Muhammad had heard stories from the Bible. In the case of the Moses/Exodus story, he retold parts of the story at least six times.
@@michaelevans4110 What evidence do you have for your claims? My evidence is right there in the Quran. There are numerous quotations from the Bible in the Quran. There are six retellings of the Moses/Exodus story and other fragments about Moses. These are for the most part in agreement with the Bible sources, although there are embellishments and contradictions. There are other stories from Syriac Christians sources, like the Cave and Dhul Qarnayn. The very word Quran itself comes from Syriac, and about half the 300 foreign words in the Quran are from Syriac. Mecca is not mentioned in the so-called Meccan surahs, and all the geographical hints in the text show that Muhammad was living in a place in the north of Arabia. Almost everything in Islam is a fabrication. The very story of Muhammad receiving a revelation from and angel in a cave is not in the Quran, and is a later fabrication.
Note that Ijaz claimed the stories about Moses in the Quran are self contained. When I pointed at the 5 of them start either with Moses before Pharaoh, or at the burning bush, Ijaz pointed to Surah 28. Yes, Surah 28 has the back-story of Moses being put into the Nile as a baby. But it is the sixth - the only one which gives some explanation of who Moses was. The other 5 are not self-contained, and Surah 28 was revealed later than the others (except perhaps 10). So until Surah 28 was revealed, nobody knew who this Moses was who Muhammad was talking about. But of course they knew. They had heard the Exodus story. Muhammad and his hearers lived in an area where Bible stories were well known.
Why would we need to know who Musa(as) is besides the fact that the guy spoken of was a prophet of GODS? The Quran is not a history book but it is a book of enlightenment that can only be seen by those who ponder. You looking for a storyline. Look at the story line of GOD sending prophets to warn a people and here you are denying a prophet who could be your warner. You deny even with all the many contradictions within the bible. Our prophet(pbuh) calls to GOD. Done. what more do you need to know?you deny prophet Muhammad (saw) just like the jews denied all the prophets before and Isa (as) who came as a mercy and a warner to them. There's your storyline...do you want GOD to tell you the route or the path someone strolled on to get from one place to another? Would that make it from GOD? that sounds like man written. We only need to know what we need in order to save our souls from the day of judgement not the geographical location of anyone from back in the day..
@@bravesoul964 My position is that almost everything in Islam is a fabrication, and is not a revelation from God. God has revealed Himself, and revealed Himself to Moses in the burning bush (see Exodus 3), and sent him to confront Pharaoh, and to demand that he let the enslaved Children of Israel leave. The repeated retellings of the Moses story are evidence that the Quran is the work of men. The seven versions are all different, and are even contradictory. But when you put them all together, they cover a large part of the Exodus story from which they are copied. It is clear that Muhammad believed Exodus. There are many inconsistencies I could point to, but the story in Surah 40 is almost totally different to Exodus, and is different to the other Surahs. In Surah 40, Moses hardly says or does anything. Instead, all the talking is done by a mysterious "secret believer", who seems to have a very thorough understanding of Islamic teaching. All the other Surahs are about Moses going to speak about God to people who will not believe, but in Surah 40, Moses doesn't need to speak, because there is already a man there who knows all about it, and it appears the Egyptians he is speaking to also know all about it but don't believe. I state that Muhammad just copied (in the sense that he heard and then repeated) Exodus. What is your explanation? Where did he get the story from? The Quran does not say he got it from an angel. That story was made up later - like so much else in Islam.
Jamie, I'm having trouble understanding the discussion about Michael Edwards and the others. As far as I know, Michael Edwards and Julian Ward will be working for FSG, not directly for LFC. It seems like FSG might be expanding their portfolio, but I fail to see how this benefits LFC directly. Additionally, when discussing individuals, it's important to use the correct job descriptions, as some are not directly related to LFC. Regarding Richard Hughes, He is definitely hired for LFC, I can't help but wonder about the decisions made under his purview. Buying Solanke for £25mil, Jordan Ibe for £20mil, and Brewster for £18mil raises questions about the justification behind these talent ID and investment decisions. Could someone clarify these points for me? Best regards, [Your Name]
I am happy to say that God has shined light into my heart. From John 1: 4 In him was life, and the life was the light of men. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it. Islam tries very hard to bring darkness and wipe out the message of Jesus. That is why I oppose it.
@@frankszanto Islam respect Jesus! Unlike Jew who say Jesus was burn out of wedlock and Mary committed adultry! Islam calls to warship THE ONLY TRUE GOD as Jesus said!!! Who do you warship Frank?DO you warship Jesus or Holy Ghost or God the Father?Which one you warship?
@@samnox2269 Muslims do not respect Jesus. They ignore every word he said, and substitute the words of a man. For example, you do not pray the way he taught us to pray. Of course I worship the one and only true God. That is what Christians have always taught. It is Muslims who direct their worship to a man-made object in Mecca.
No, God did. See what Jesus said in Matthew 19: 4 “Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’5 and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’? 6 So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”
Tell me something about Jesus from the Quran. Why is it that Jesus has more to say as an infant than as a man? The nativity story appears twice, with copying from various sources. There is only one passage about Jesus as a man, in every sense, it teaches exactly the opposite to what Jesus taught. I made a video about this: th-cam.com/video/JoTOTUZgKjg/w-d-xo.html
"Over the centuries, and even today, the Bible and Christian theology have helped justify the Crusades, slavery, violence against gays, and the murder of doctors who perform abortions. The words themselves are latent, inert, harmless - until they aren't." Amy Waldman.
I have never heard of Amy Waldman. Why is it you Muslims quote all sorts of people, but rarely the Quran? Is it because you find more clever words outside the Quran than in it?
@@JesusisaMuslim I will have to look up your channel. You Muslims love to attack the teachings of Jesus, but your Quran is a joke. So much of it is incorrectly copied from the Bible.
Ex-Christian, television personality, Amber Rose, speaking about the death of Jesus Christ, she said: “I just don’t believe that Jesus died and came back to life for my sins. I just believe that’s crazy. That’s ludicrous. I believe it’s manipulative."
The bible authors/writers---highly educated greek scholars were so obsessed with inbreeding stories...why do you think these writers keep repeating these stories...? Are they from yahweh/jesus ? What moral lesson are they trying to teach children reading those passages?
@@frankszanto We're all allowed to love stories but it doesn't mean anything more becomes of it. I could repeat Biblical stories of wisdom yet not fully get behind the text. We see kernels of wisdom in different things.
The Quran gives every indication that Muhammad was just telling stories, and it is hard to see what the purpose of telling them was. In the case of these Moses stories, it seems that on one hand he was trying to show that evil people rejected the prophet. But then he makes up the bit about the magicians believing - which he contradicts in other retellings.
In Qur'an, Satan in cursed: Qur'an 15:34-35. 34.[ Allah ] said, "Then get out of it, for indeed, you are expelled. 35.And indeed, upon you is the curse until the Day of Recompense." In evil Christianity, Jesus is cursed: Galatians 3:13. Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: “Cursed is everyone who is hung on a pole.”
Paul was 100% a false apostle. All of Asia Minor rejected Paul. They complained to James about Paul that he was trying to make them end the Laws. When Paul arrives in Jerusalem, James questions Paul in Acts 21:21 about this complaint which the people of Asia Minor made. James made Paul do a nazarite vow in Acts 21:26, which included shaving his head and animal sacrifice. So they were still sacrificing animals long after Jesus. The people of Asia Minor came back to Jerusalem and seen Paul. They dragged him out of the temple and beat him up and nearly killed him in Acts 21:27-32 for preaching against the Law of Moses. The Roman guards came and took Paul away and jailed him. Paul then writes to Timothy and says all of those in Asia Minor had rejected him in 2 Timothy 2:15. After Paul dies, Jesus is speaking to the people of Asia Minor. The very people who rejected Paul. Jesus is praising them for rejecting false apostles in Revelation 1:20 and Revelation 2:1-2. The argument which no Christian can answer to is, why was Jesus praising the enemies of Paul who nearly killed him? If Paul was a true apostle, then Jesus would have rebuked them. But he was praising the very people who rejected Paul, proving Paul could never have been a true apostle. Jesus never mentioned Paul even once to them. Even Barnabas completely fell out with Paul. The church is hiding this as they know most Christians don't read Bible and are just blindfollowers.
Napoleon Bonarparte was the Emperor of France. He desired Islamic rule in the West: “I hope the time is not far off when I shall be able to unite all the wise and educated men of all the countries, and establish a uniform regime based on the principles of the Quran, which alone are true, and which alone can lead men to happiness.” (Bonaparte et l’Islam, d’Après les Documents Français et Arabes, Christian Cherfils, Ed., Paris, France, 1914, pp. 105-125. Original References: Correspondance de Napoléon Ier. Tome 5) ......
Another way to to refute Trinitarians is to ask them "if Jesus is god, then why is the Lord's prayer addressed only to the Father and not to to the son?" Its like as if Jesus is not want to be prayed or worshipped to.
When you tell Christian no Muslims worship kaba and stop they don't believe because of their ignorance only. Because people read this loud Labaik Allahuma Labaik Labaik la Sharikala Labaik لَبَّيْكَ ٱللَّٰهُمَّ لَبَّيْكَ، لَبَّيْكَ لَا شَرِيكَ لَكَ لَبَّيْكَ، إِنَّ ٱلْحَمْدَ وَٱلنِّعْمَةَ لَكَ وَٱلْمُلْكَ لَا شَرِيكَ لَكَ The translation of this is, “I respond to Your call O Allah! I respond to Your call. You have no partner. I respond to Your call. All praise, thanks and blessings are for You. All sovereignty is for You. And You have no partners with You).'”
World famous author, Leo Tolstoy said: “Muhammad has always been standing higher than the Christianity. He does not consider god as a human being and never makes himself equal to God. Muslims worship nothing except God and Muhammad is his Messenger. There is no any mystery and secret in it. The law of the Qur’an will prevail in the world because it agrees with reason and wisdom. I have come to understand that humanity needs only a Divine law to establish the truth and destroy falsehood. Islamic law will encompass the entire world because it is consistent with reason and agrees with wisdom and justice.”
I think a conversation of camera/stream would be more beneficial for Frank. As jarring as he’s been, maybe it’s a case of not wanting to show uncertainty or weakness during a livestream in front of others. I’ve even seen him engaging and arguing with people in the comments section about his appearances on the channel. Just my 2 cents
@@frankszanto Let’s just agree that we all believe in God and know that there’s a severe punishment awaiting for insincere people who turn away from the truth. So even if you never agree on anything else with Muslims on these kinda channels, at the very least just be sincere with yourself and with God. If you sincerely seek the truth and put aside any pride or defensiveness you have about your current faith then you might have an excuse on the day of judgement when you’re in the presence of God Almighty. We both believe that the consequences of your beliefs are enormous. May Allah ﷻ guide you.
@@idirismohamed1160 Isaiah spoke of a time when: 35:5 Then the eyes of the blind shall be opened, and the ears of the deaf unstopped; 6 then shall the lame man leap like a deer, and the tongue of the mute sing for joy. 700 years later Jesus quoted this, in Matthew 11:2: Now when John heard in prison about the deeds of the Christ, he sent word by his disciples 3 and said to him, “Are you the one who is to come, or shall we look for another?” 4 And Jesus answered them, “Go and tell John what you hear and see: 5 the blind receive their sight and the lame walk, lepers are cleansed and the deaf hear, and the dead are raised up, and the poor have good news preached to them. Jesus is the fulfillment of God's promise, but Islam tries to suppress everything he said. By the way, John the Baptist is mentioned in the Quran twice, but only his birth - there is nothing about what he taught and said.
@@idirismohamed1160 I believe that God has revealed the truth in Jesus, and that Islam was invented to wipe out what Jesus taught. Have you read the gospels. Jesus was the greatest teacher. Can you even compare the words of the Quran to what Jesus taught?
In the "Islam and the West" speech, King Charles lll talked about the misunderstanding in the west about Islam. "If there is much misunderstanding in the West about the nature of Islam, there is also much ignorance about the debt our own culture and civilisation owe to the Islamic world. It is a failure which stems, I think, from the straitjacket of history which we have inherited. The medieval Islamic world, from Central Asia to the shores of the Atlantic, was a world where scholars and men of learning flourished. But because we have tended to see Islam as the enemy of the West, as an alien culture, society and system of belief, we have tended to ignore or erase its great relevance to our own history." On how Christianity can learn from Islam, he says: "Islam can teach us today a way of understanding and living in the world which Christianity itself is the poorer for having lost. At the heart of Islam is its preservation of an integral view of the Universe." He added that Islam refuses to "separate man and nature, religion and science, mind and matter, and has preserved a metaphysical and unified view of ourselves and the world around us."
@@frankszanto memorization is the primeray sources dear Frank, may God guide you and be pleased with you, and manuscripts attest it (don't expect me to leave all this out for layman to tell me otherwise) in my family there are 2 , and the larger family 6 or 7 who memorized the whole Quran, and many of us memorize third, or quarter of it.. many.. But Frank you approach to this is incorrect. Imagine I tell you similar type of accusation about your faith that you know is wrong, you will think I am dishonest brother and it break the trust in the conversation that is why you can't change a muslim mind (you may claim it here out of pride) but we know it isn't the case.
but you cant for 2 reasons: here is the secret, 1. you make dishonest claims or false interpreation of Quran etc 2. you are astray when you leave what Jesus taught and follow Paul. just a tiny example out of many, didn't Jesus say whoever break the commandment will be called the least in Heaven and whoever etc... did not he say "not even a title , a jot from the law shall be changed.." Paul abolished the law, hence the least in the kingdom of heaven (he or whoever wrote in his name) Jesus pbuh, was teaching them the law, and predicting a person to come who will change it.. Paul say the law is abolished, Paul who never met Jesus nor was sure whom he saw on the road to Damascus and has 2 different account of it, in one he saw light, in another they ONLY heard a voice!! and taught different gospel.. I don't know why Frank but each time I see you I still think deep down you are good guy.. and I have seen all the Open Forum series all, and now starting this... but I think you are blinded (possibly because God knows you know the truth but reject it due to one of these reasons: 1. love to your tradtiions (your culture, or as Quranic term Forfathers' way) 2. nationalism 3. you reject the region and the people where islam started (if you say but I accept Jesus who came from same region) yes because when Chrisitanity started there weren't many propaganda against that region as today, today Christians dies in that region due to the current war, and many christian don't raise voices (I mean in their majority) why ? because they don't like that region ?why? propaganda etc etc 4. because you place family ties if clergy , or funding, etc..over the God's truth. 5. you love to follow your desire,Islam require work and in Christianity you can be free from these rules, just believe "a man from Palestine died for you 2000 years ago to save you ) or "God kill his own supposed son to save you because you are special, you don't have to do anything beyond that believe) God knows 100% that you are not sure about Christianity , I know that and I am mere mortal, of these reasons you have, imagine how much God knows. Frank dear brother we are all human and love to live, and have less rules, and follow our desire etc.. but we know we have to follow God's commands we don't accept anyone to come and say "the law in Quran is abolished" and say "okkk" so now we can do what we wish, that is wishful thinking.. nice to talk to you , I wish you the best
@@sutil5078 The question you need to consider is, when was the Quran as we have it completed? Muslim sources say that Hajjaj bin Yusef changed verses in the Quran. The story in Surah 33 is terrible - that Muhammad took his own adopted son's wife. I think it is highly unlikely he did this - he was faithful to his one wife Khadija until her death.
@@sutil5078 I had been speaking to some Muslims before I began to go on EFDawah's livestreams - in fact one of them who I used to speak to regularly told me to watch. I was very much angered by the way they were attacking the Bible and Christianity in the so-called historicity streams. At the time, when I tried to raise issues about the Quran, they said I would have to wait until they did the historicity of the Quran - and Hamza assured me I could be first in line when they came to the Quran. Four years later, I am still waiting for a Quran historicity series. But in the meantime, I have read some of the Quran, and find there are many differences between what the Quran actually says, and what Muslims teach. And there are a lot of stories in the Quran copied from the Bible, with errors. Islam disrespects Jesus, and substitutes another message in his place. That is why I expend energy showing Muslims that the Quran is not from God.
There is no original sin. Adam and Eve prayed for forgiveness and God forgave them. Qur'an 2:37. Then Adam received from his Lord [some] words, and He accepted his repentance. Indeed, it is He who is the Accepting of repentance, the Merciful. The prayer for forgiveness by Adam and Eve. Qur'an 7:23. “Our Lord, we have wronged ourselves, and if You do not forgive us and have mercy upon us, we will surely be among the losers.”
@EFDawah, that clown asking about Moses, the arabs know there are prophets or historical persons like Moses, Jesus and Suliman, there is even a mention of Suliman pbuh in a poetry for the poet "Al-Zubiany' from pre-islamic era. That while also there are jews who know that, so you don't define the defined. The stories of Moses pbuh is mentioned to teach muslims about the mistakes and sins that his followers were doing so we can avoid it. That's why he was advising the prophet pbuh in the Me'rag trip, regarding the prayers and the abillity of people to follow on commands.
"Young Welsh" is a typical snake. Not actually on the stream to learn or understand or clarify. Just there to make silly statements and avoid answering questions and then try to proselytize.
The following verse is deemed as a forgery by Christian scholars, and has been thrown out of the modern day translations. This verse is nowhere to be found in any Greek manuscripts until the 15th century. It was added to deceive Christians. 1 John 5:7. For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. .
‘Ubadah ibn al-Samit reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Whoever testifies that there is no God but Allah alone without any partners, that Muhammad is His servant and His messenger, that Jesus is the servant of Allah and His messenger, His word which He bestowed upon Mary and a spirit from Him, and that Paradise is the truth and Hellfire is the truth, then Allah will admit him into Paradise by whatever good deeds he had done.” Sahih al-Bukhari 3435, Sahih Muslim 28
God doesn't need to kill himself to forgive our sins. God forgives all our sins above His blessed Throne. Abu Huraira reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “When a Muslim or a believer washes his face in ablution, every sin that he committed with his eyes will be washed away with the last drop of water. When he washes his hands, every sin that he committed with his hands will be washed away with the last drop of water. When he washes his feet, every sin that he committed with his feet will be washed away with the last drop of water, until he emerges purified from sin.” Sahih Muslim 244
I take the trouble to educate you Muslims about your own book, which you do not seem to read very carefully. Why did Muhammad tell the Moses story six times? The contradictions between the different versions are clear. And by the way, I was born in England.
@@frankszanto See..........You seem to always bring something that has nothing to do with the discussion...even your comment of being born in England !! Do you call yourself English or an Aussie ??? An Aussie of course because that's where you mostly grew up right ?? So what's the point of bringing up where you were born ??
Trinity is ancient paganism. Egyptian Trinity Father Osiris, mother Isis and son Horus Hindu Trinity Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva Christian Trinity Father, son Jesus and Holy Spirit "If Paganism was conquered by Christianity, it is equally true that Christianity was corrupted by Paganism. The pure Deism of the first Christians . . . was changed, by the Church of Rome, into the incomprehensible dogma of the trinity. Many of the pagan tenets, invented by the Egyptians and idealized by Plato, were retained as being worthy of belief." Edward Gibbon's History of Christianity.
According to allah in quran!😂 Can a 6yrs old child be physically,mentally,psychologically ready to make decision on being married unless her evil parents allow it!!
They never killed Jesus. The matter of the fact that Jesus was praying, sweating and begging God to save him from his enemies in Matthew 26:39 and Luke 22:44, clearly shows he never wanted to die, and God heard his prayers and saved him as prophesied in the full Pslam 91 chapter and the following verses: Pslam 91:10-16. Because you have made the Lord your dwelling place- the Most High, who is my refuge- 10 no evil shall be allowed to befall you, no plague come near your tent. 11 For he will command his angels concerning you to guard you in all your ways. 12 On their hands they will bear you up, lest you strike your foot against a stone. 13 You will tread on the lion and the adder; the young lion and the serpent you will trample underfoot. 14 “Because he holds fast to me in love, I will deliver him; I will protect him, because he knows my name. 15 When he calls to me, I will answer him; I will be with him in trouble; I will rescue him and honor him. 16 With long life I will satisfy him and show him my salvation.” Pslam 18:3. I will call upon the LORD, who is worthy to be praised: so shall I be saved from mine enemies. Pslam 34:6. This poor man cried, and the Lord heard him, and saved him out of all his troubles. Pslam 34:19-20. 19. Many are the afflictions of the righteous: but the Lord delivereth him out of them all. 20. He keepeth all his bones: not one of them is broken. Pslam 41:2.The Lord will preserve him, and keep him alive; and he shall be blessed upon the earth: and thou wilt not deliver him unto the will of his enemies. Pslam 20:6. Now I know that the LORD saves His anointed; He will answer him from His holy heaven With the saving strength of His right hand. Pslam 118:17. I will not die but live, and will proclaim what the LORD has done. Hebrews 5:7. Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared;
Frank - it's the same as saying "But no one believed in the verbal diarrhoea of Frank except a few intellectually challenged people of his Australian Group '!!
Do you imagine you are an intellectual? Do you believe Solomon sent jinns to steal the Queen of Sheba's throne? Do you believe his corpse balanced on a stick for some unspecified period in order to trick the jinns?
@@frankszanto Never said I was...so if you have any problems believing that, yet you're ok with Saints rising from the dead in Matthew 27:50-53 ??? Thats ok cause it's from the Bible right ??
@@finalprophet813 Yep. It is by the most ridiculous story in the Quran, and proves beyond doubt that it is the work of men. The only "rebuttal" I have had is that I am hypocritical because I believe miracles in the Bible, but not in the Quran. How does that work? Because there are some miracles in the Bible, Muhammad is allowed to make up some of his own? This more than anything shows me Muslims are brainwashed into following a cult.
@@rosdykalat2620 So you don't believe in the resurrection? Are you seriously comparing resurrection to a fairy story about jinns, and a king whose corpse balanced on a stick for months? None of his servants noticed he never came in for dinner. The kingdom ran itself and nobody had to ask the king for a decision?
All sins are forgiven for those who accept Islam. Qur'an 8:38. Say to those who have disbelieved [that] if they cease, what has previously occurred will be forgiven for them. ‘Amr ibn al-‘As reported: The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Do you not know that embracing Islam wipes away all sins committed before it, that emigration wipes away what came before it, and the Hajj pilgrimage wipes away what came before it?” Sahih Muslim 121
3:39:04 BIBLE SAID ISAAC AT 40 OLD MARRIED REBECCA A (3) YEARS OLD KID. The Biblical Facts: The Following Scriptural Facts Are Used To Establish Rebekah's Age At Her Marriage To Isaac. 1. Sarah Was 90 When Abraham Was 100 (Gen 17:17). 2. Abraham Was 100 When Isaac Was Born (Gen21:5). 3. Sarah Died At Aged 127 (Gen 23:1-2). 4. Isaac Was 40 When He Married Rebekah (Gen25:20). 5. Sarah Was 90 When Isaac Was Born (Conclusion From 1 And 2 Above) 6. Isaac Was 37 When His Mother Sarah Died (Because 127-90=37) 7. Since Isaac Was 37 At His Mother's Death, He Was 37 When Rebekah Was Born. 8.Since Isaac Was 40 When He Married Rebekah, Rebekah Would Be 3 When The Marriage Took Place (Because 40-37=(3)... . " REBECCA WAS 3 YRS old
Prophet Mohammad (pbuh) will be the leader of mankind on Judgement Day and will be the first one to enter Paradise. It was narrated that Abu Hurayrah that the Messenger of God, Prophet Mohammad said: “I will be the leader of mankind of the Day of Resurrection, the first whose grave will be opened, the first to intercede and the first to be asked to intercede.” Sahih Muslim, 2278 Anas b. Malik reported: The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: I will come to the gate of Paradise on the Day of Resurrection. and would seek its opening. and the keeper would say: Who art thou? I would say: Muhammad. He would then say: It is for thee that I have been ordered, and not to open it for anyone before thee. Sahih Muslim 197
Jesus meets no criteria of a god 👇 (Matthew 4:1) Jesus was tempted (James 1:13) God cannot be tempted (John 1:29) Jesus was seen (1 John 4:12) No man has ever seen God (Acts 2:22) Jesus was and is a man, sent by God (Numbers 23:19, Hosea 11:9) God is not a man (Hebrews 5:8-9) Jesus had to grow and learn (Isaiah 40:28) God doesn’t ever need to learn (1 Corinthians 15:3-4) Jesus died (1 Timothy 1:17) God cannot die (Hebrews 5:7) Jesus needed salvation (Luke 1:37) God doesn’t need salvation (John 4:6) Jesus grew weary (Isaiah 40:28) God can’t grow weary (Mark 4:38) Jesus slept (Psalm 121:2-4) God doesn’t sleep .
God has no sons. The meaning of the term “Son of God” in the Old and New Testament. In the Bible, the term “Son of God” means a righteous servant of God. It does not mean literally divine son of God. The Oxford Dictionary of the Jewish Religion confirms that in Jewish idiom “Son of God” is clearly metaphorical. In previous Scriptures, pious believers were called “sons of God.” It was not only Jesus who was “son of God” in the bible; other Prophets were also called “son of God.” For example: David: Psalm 2:7. I will declare the decree: the Lord hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. Solomon: 2 Samuel 7:13-14. He shall build an house for my name, and I will stablish the throne of his kingdom for ever. I will be his father, and he shall be my son. If he commit iniquity, I will chasten him with the rod of men, and with the stripes of the children of men: Adam: Luke 3:38. Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God. God has no real son. Jesus, David, Solomon, etc. were only close servants of God
📌 At our death bed: our culture, traditions, wealth, properties, and desires to sin would be so insignificant to us, so meaningless in that moment just like hearing that somewhere in China has died, a tree or a little leaf fallen from one of the trees of your preschool garden, (at that moment you are that ant, the falling leaf). The seriousness of that, is we can't comeback and fix that, and eternity await.. It is not a joke, and our death is real. So the smart safe way is (to be sincere when we research faiths) at least do our homework, and Allah promises guidance to the sincere. Don't let your health deceive you it won't be eternal! Show your creator your sincerity when searching for him right now while alive and healthy. Remember him in good time so he will remember you in your hardship. at Deathbed the most important thing for you is "did I please God, did I make the right choice?" May Allah guide all of us, grant us mercy, love, and highest heaven with the prophets and His righteous servants.
The Bible says no one has ever seen God. And yet people saw Jesus. This again proves that Jesus cannot be God. Deuteronomy 4.12. Then the Lord spoke to you out of the fire. You heard the sound of words but saw no form; there was only a voice. Exodus 33.20. But,” he said, “you cannot see my face, for no one may see me and live.” 1 John 4.12. No one has ever seen God; 1 Timothy 1.17. Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory for ever and ever. Amen. 1 Timothy 6:15-16.15. which God will bring about in his own time-God, the blessed and only Ruler, the King of kings and Lord of lords, 16. who alone is immortal and who lives in unapproachable light, whom no one has seen or can see. To him be honor and might forever. Amen. Qur'an 6.103. No vision can grasp Him, but His Grasp is over all vision. Qur'an 7.143. And when Moses arrived at Our appointed time and his Lord spoke to him, he said, "My Lord, show me [Yourself] that I may look at You." [Allah] said, "You will not see Me, but look at the mountain; if it should remain in place, then you will see Me." But when his Lord appeared to the mountain, He rendered it level, and Moses fell unconscious. And when he awoke, he said, "Exalted are You! I have repented to You, and I am the first of the believers." .......
Jesus was a prophet and not god. The people living around him knew he was a prophet. Nobody called Jesus everlasting father, mighty god or prince of peace. John 4:19. 19 “Sir,” the woman said, “I can see that you are a prophet. Luke 24:19. “About Jesus of Nazareth,” they replied. “He was a prophet, Jesus even called himself a prophet. Luke 13:33. Nevertheless I must walk to day, and to morrow, and the day following: for it cannot be that a prophet perish out of Jerusalem.
1:40:25 "problem that angel Jibrail, as, didnt introduce or smth" logically speaking what was the message? read... read in the name of your lord who teach/taught by the pen what u did not know... what implies that this is devil? what is wrong with this message, that it CAN NOT BE FROM ANGEL?
All the Prophets were Muslims who submitted to the will of God: Qur’an 22:78. And strive for Allah with the striving due to Him. He has chosen you and has not placed upon you in the religion any difficulty. [It is] the religion of your father, Abraham. Allah named you “Muslims” before [in former scriptures] and in this [revelation] that the Messenger may be a witness over you and you may be witnesses over the people. Abraham: Qur’an 3:67. Abraham was neither a Jew nor a Christian, but he was one inclining toward truth, a Muslim [submitting to Allah]. And he was not of the polytheists. Jacob and his sons: Qur’an 2:132-133. 132. And Abraham instructed his sons [to do the same] and [so did] Jacob, [saying], “O my sons, indeed Allah has chosen for you this religion, so do not die except while you are Muslims.” 133. Or were you witnesses when death approached Jacob, when he said to his sons, “What will you worship after me?” They said, “We will worship your God and the God of your fathers, Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac - one God. And we are Muslims [in submission] to Him.” Joseph: Qur’an 21:101. My Lord, You have given me [something] of sovereignty and taught me of the interpretation of dreams. Creator of the heavens and earth, You are my protector in this world and in the Hereafter. Cause me to die a Muslim and join me with the righteous.” Disicples were Muslims too. Qur’an 3:52. But when Jesus felt [persistence in] disbelief from them, he said, “Who are my supporters for [the cause of] Allah?” The disciples said,” We are supporters for Allah. We have believed in Allah and testify that we are Muslims [submitting to Him]. Qur’an 5:111. And [remember] when I inspired to the disciples, “Believe in Me and in My messenger Jesus.” They said, “We have believed, so bear witness that indeed we are Muslims [in submission to Allah].” .
Allah has promised the Paradise for the believers. Qur’an 41:30-32. 30. Indeed, those who have said, “Our Lord is Allah ” and then on a right course - the angels will descend upon them, [saying], “Do not fear and do not grieve but receive good tidings of Paradise, which you were promised. 31. We [angels] were your allies in worldly life and [are so] in the Hereafter. And you will have therein whatever your souls desire, and you will have therein whatever you request [or wish] 32. As accommodation from a [Lord who is] Forgiving and Merciful.” Qur'an 9:72. Allah has promised the believing men and believing women gardens beneath which rivers flow, wherein they abide eternally, and pleasant dwellings in gardens of perpetual residence; but approval from Allah is greater. It is that which is the great attainment.
God sent the Holy Spirit (Angel Gabriel) to the final Prophet, Mohammad, to deliver the message for all of mankind for our eternal salvation. Qur'an 2:97-98. 97. Say, "Whoever is an enemy to Gabriel - it is [none but] he who has brought the Qur'an down upon your heart, [O Muhammad], by permission of Allah , confirming that which was before it and as guidance and good tidings for the believers." 28. Whoever is an enemy to Allah and His angels and His messengers and Gabriel and Michael - then indeed, Allah is an enemy to the disbelievers. Qur'an 16:102. Say, the Holy Spirit has brought the revelation from thy Lord in Truth, in order to strengthen those who believe, and as a Guide and Glad Tidings to Muslims. Qur'an 26:192-193. 192. And indeed, the Qur'an is the revelation of the Lord of the worlds. 193. The Trustworthy Spirit has brought it down 194. Upon your heart, [O Muhammad] - that you may be of the warners -
Jesus is not god. Jesus said he has a god. Mark 12:29. Jesus replied, “The most important commandment is this: ‘Listen, O Israel! The Lord our God is the one and only Lord . John 17:3. Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. John 20:17. Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’” Jesus also made it very clear that he can do nothing, and did not like people equating him to god: Matthew 19:17. And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, John 5:30. I can of mine own self do nothing:
Jesus is NOT God. God is not a man: Hosea 11:9. for I am God, and not man; Peter said Jesus was only a man chosen by God: Acts 2:22. Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know: Jesus prayed to God: Luke 6:12. And it came to pass in those days, that he went out into a mountain to pray, and continued all night in prayer to God. Jesus prostrated on the floor on his face praying to God, just as Muslims do. Matthew 26:39. And he went a little farther, and fell on his face, and prayed, Jesus said he has a God: John 17:3. Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. John 20:17. Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God. Mark 12:29. And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: Jesus said he can do nothing: John 5:30. I can of mine own self do nothing: Jesus said only God is good: Mark 10:18. And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.
When a person's heart is darkened the the truth the light is never shown always be disbeliever hegoes4show was very stupid and he needs to go back to educate
*Timestamps:*
00:00 - Intro
00:59 - EF Dawah Panel join
01:45 - Catching up & discussing current events
04:33 - Interesting story about the Kathisma church
10:07 - *Young Welsh (Christian) joins*
11:28 - Is Islam a branch of Christianity? 🕌
15:10 - Islam being the Religion of the Prophets ☪️
19:30 - Jesus' teachings vs Christianity ⚖️
31:41 - *Monzur (Christian) joins*
34:46 - Name of God in Christianity vs Islam 🕋
36:20 - Issues with God having a Son ⚠️
42:14 - *Gemmes (Agnostic) joins*
42:39 - Arguments in favour of Agnosticism 🗣️
44:08 - Debunking the Arguments 🙅🏻♂️
47:36 - Analysing Nature of the Necessary Being 🔍
53:15 - Scrutinizing Gemmes' skeptical beliefs 🔬
1:00:22 - Problems with Skepticism & Naturalism ❌
1:04:14 - Explanation of Theory-Ladeness 💬
1:10:26 - Refuting the claims of Gemmes 👎🏻
1:13:11 - Dawah & Advice to Gemmes 📢
1:28:23 - *Hegoes4show (Agnostic) joins*
1:30:05 - Angel Gabriel's episodes with Prophet Muhammad ﷺ
1:36:44 - Angel Gabriel's 1st episode with Prophet Muhammad ﷺ
1:42:23 - Claim against Prophet Muhammad ﷺ's episode with Angel Gabriel
1:45:18 - Debunking the claim 🙅🏻♂️
1:50:40 - Refuting the claim of Islam being from Satan ❌
2:05:40 - Islam identifying & refuting Paganism ☪️
2:18:35 - Debunking the claim of Idolatry in Islam 👎🏻
2:46:38 - *Frank (Christian) joins*
2:47:18 - Claim about Moses pbuh's story in the Qur'an
2:51:14 - Refutation of Frank's claims 🙅🏻♂️
3:11:31 - Advice & Dawah to Frank 📢
3:14:59 - Debunking Frank's claims ❌
3:23:32 - Pastor Jason joins: Audio issues
3:24:49 - *H (Muslim) joins* & appreciates the Panel
3:30:14 - *Isaac (Christian) joins*
3:30:57 - Claims about Child marriage in Islam
3:32:38 - Refutation of Isaac's claims 👎🏻
3:36:48 - Age of Marriage in Christianity vs Islam 👰🏻♂️
3:54:35 - Wisdom of Age of Marriage in Islam💡
3:58:15 - Closing Remarks & Wrapping Up ✅
MashaAllah ❤️💛💙
Fabulous Stream 👍🏻👌🏻
_May Allah ﷻ bless you all and accept your efforts._ 🤲🏻
Eid Mubarak brother, and jazakallahu khair
@@myuzairy7324 Khair Mubarak brother and Barakallah Feek ☺️😊
Jazak Allahu khayran
Alhamdulillahi rabbi al'alameen
@@michaelevans4110 بارك الله فيك ☺️
How do u this? 🤔
I’ve said this before…. Imrān has one of the most analytical and methodical minds active on social media platforms….genuine intelligence exhibited every time.👊
ma sha Allah
"When the missionaries came to Africa they had the Bible and we had the land. They said 'Let us pray.' We closed our eyes. When we opened them we had the Bible and they had the land."
Jomo Kenyatta.
That’s why one should only close one’s eyes at night while sleeping.
Disclaimer: The making of this video may have resulted in the loss of countless brain cells (credit: Frank Szanto). It took a month worth of crossword puzzles just to recover some of those cells-the rest flat out refused to return to a world where Frank still exists.
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If you are finding that your brain cells are dying off at a rapid rate, I suggest you read the Bible instead of the Quran. You will be getting the original story instead of the corrupted version, especially in the case of Exodus, and it is set out in chronological order. It could be that straight thinking promotes neuron regrowth.
😂😂😂😂😂😂 that was good
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Jazak Allah khairun.
Abbas sounds like 'n baas in Afrikaans which translates to a boss. Lol
Great stream as usual. Jzkml Khair
Mashallah good to see the brothers back and in good health Alhamdulillah.
"If the world's problems were brought to the Prophet Muhammad ﷺ he would solve them all." - George Bernard Shaw
When did George Bernard Shaw say this? If he did, was he being sarcastic?
@@frankszanto
Keep crying.
@@JesusisaMuslim You are unable to produce rational arguments, so you resort to abuse. The fact is that the Quran contains many retellings of Bible stories - with contradictions. It is not the word of God.
@@frankszanto
That's like me saying the Jews reject the New Testament and New Testament copies OT. The fact is that the Qur’an is final revelation. Jesus was not a filthy pig eating trinitarian. Christianity is a 4th century roman pagan cult. Your relying on 4th century Greek manuscripts written by unknown authors.
@@frankszanto
Christianity is false. My channel debunks Christianity and that pagan trinity
Very happy to see you brothers after a long time may Allah bless you all
Alhamdulilah
Barakallahu Feekum brotehrs! As usual great job.
People like hegoes4show In my opinion try and waste time to spoil the video and to frustrate the panel, the panel showed Amazing patience to this troll like behaviour, many people including me would not entertain someone like this for such a long time. The black stone does not have much significance, Muslims only worship GOD ALMIGHTY AND NOTHING OR NOBODY ELSE. Great to have you back thankyou, your patience is saintly Gentlemen I applaud you.
Brother through them we teaches other genuine listener, who have the same question, he is not important he is just a medium to teaches other
I’m 99% sure this is the same Christian who makes videos against Islam.
@yasirmomani5846 I think hegoes4show was subtlety wasting time and trying to spoil the video as well as trying to frustrate the panel, If i was a betting man I would say he probably does make videos against Muslims. Thankyou.
He’s clearly a Christian trying to waste time
IN GARDEN OF GATSEMANE JESUS CHRIST SET EXAMPLE FOR US HOW WE SHOULD ALIGN OUR WILL TO GOD'S WILL IN TIMES OF TRIALS AND HARDSHIPS,THIS IS WHAT WE CHRISTIANS TAKE FROM WHAT JESUS CHRIST DID!!
Hegoes4show and Frank are why you need Hamzah on every live😂
Hamza has demonstrated he is not a gladiator. When he is losing, he just cuts me off.
@@frankszanto 🤔🤣🤣🤣 I only see you display hypocrisy at its finest every time I see you on a live. It's really been embarrassing for a while now.
@@toxsick27 Why would I be embarrassed? I have pointed out clear contradictions and errors in the Quran, such as those in the six retellings of the Moses story. It is very clear the 3 surahs say that the magicians became Muslims (obviously an embellishment), and 3 say that they didn't. Ijaz was just stonewalling in the face of overwhelming evidence.
How does this make me a hypocrite?
Um no frank. It's just your comprehension skills are very bad. Ijaz is definitely a stone wall you can't seem to climb because his foundation is Quran.
@@toxsick27 You should Google some of my academic papers. You will be amazed at what someone with such poor comprehension skills can do.
But as for Ijaz and his attempt to spin the meaning, look at Surah 10:83:
But NO ONE believed in Moses EXCEPT a few youths of his people, while fearing that Pharaoh and their own chiefs might persecute them.
To any literate person, that means the only people who believed Moses were some youths of his people. That excludes those who were not his people, such as Egyptians. And by the way, Surahs 27, 28 and 40 also confirm this.
After I have read the Quran, I realized that all what humanity needs is this heavenly law. “The legislation of Quran will spread all over the world, because it agrees with the mind, logic and wisdom.” - Leo Tolstoy
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Did Tolstoy read the Quran? If he did, he would have recognised it was written by a man of limited intelligence who tried to copy the Bible.
The 'Slave Bible' was a highly edited Bible produced in 1807 in London for use by African slaves. Two are held in the United Kingdom, and one is currently on view at the Museum of the Bible in Washington, D.C.
Salam, Eid Mubarak! Missed u guys!!
Frank is wood for jahanam... Wallah he reminds me of Allah causing the arrogant to go blind. May Allah guide him
It's so satisfying to watch Dr. Imran and brother Ijaz finally dismantling his claims, his arguments and his basic foundation down to discover the core problem - Frank just can not comprehend what he's reading.
@@myuzairy7324 Frank the frankenstein is one big joke liar and proven today as pure ignorant
@@myuzairy7324 When exactly did they dismantle my claims? Can you explain why Muhammad told the story, or rather extracts of the Moses story six times? And in spite of their stonewalling, there is a clear contradiction. In Surah 7, 20 and 26, the magicians become Muslims, which is of course an embellishment on the original story in Exodus. And the other three passages in 10, 27 and 28 agree with Exodus. Read them for yourself.
And that was just the half of it. There is also the error about when Pharaoh said the male children were to be killed. And how exactly did the Egyptians die? Were they thrown into the sea? And why did Moses' mother put him into the Nile?
Muslims can live in denial all they like. The Quran has passages copied from the Bible - with errors. Muhammad was not very good at telling stories.
I showed that the Quran copies stories from the Bible, and cannot be understood without the Bible. But the arrogant do not want to be taught.
@@myuzairy7324 I think it is the other way around. Muslims seem to read the Quran without thinking. Take for example the story about Solomon's corpse on a stick in Surah 34. Any thinking person can see this story is nonsense. How could a king die, and no one noticed for months? And is your god one who spends his time playing tricks on the jinn?
The disabled guy was also on Hamza's Den. Allegedly abandoned by Muslim family, raised by Christians.
He was going to be their guarantee to enter Jannah! They have surely lost a great opportunity!😢
Qur'an is a lessons, reminder and laws for the people of the world.
1:30:05 - Angel Gabriel's episodes with Prophet Muhammad ﷺ
1:31:50
1:44:10- Claim against Prophet Muhammad ﷺ's episode with Angel Gabriel (Angel not introducing self)
1:45:20, 1:48:14, 1:52:04, b1:53:16, 1:56:50, 2:02:25
2:18:35 - Debunking the claim of Idolatry in Islam
2:22:47, 2:25:00
Ask 500 Christians about the Trinity and you will get 500 different explanations.
500 different explanation that emphasise that Father,Son and Holy Spirit are three distinct persons in one God,same essence,always in agreement!
@@desmondmansingh5175
Christianity is false. My channel debunks Christianity and that pagan trinity.
Frank's heart seems to be made of stone, he has so many double standards it's unbelievable. He will literally throw the Bible under the bus because of his hatred for Islam.
if he were sincere, God will guide him no doubt about that, it is a promise from our Lord. "Allah keeps firm those who believe, with the firm word, in worldly life and in the Hereafter. And Allah sends astray the wrongdoers. And Allah does what He wills." Quran 14-27, However If he were not, it means either he is blinded (for hypocritical way of life, or major sins committed ) and he is left to his own devices .. all this from verse of the Quran:
"And whoever defies the Messenger after guidance has become clear to them and follows a path other than that of the believers, We will let them pursue what they have chosen, then burn them in Hell-what an evil end!" Quran 4-115
there plenty statement explaining why some are guided (the sincere ones who look for the truth) and why some are not (the one who defend their traditions, money, jobs (clergies ), and place it above God's path, )
I think Frank has chosen his traditions (forefathers' way) over the truth ( his salvation) which won't help him on that day nor a chance to amend what he has preferred.. the exchange is huge loss : he tries his best to distort the truth despite being shown over and over his errors in his research and assumption. May God guide him, have mercy on him and all of us. Amin
Imran face is priceless when Frank is speaking in those first few minutes, he doesn’t look happy hahaha
I don't think it is worthy to engage Frank anymore.
Baraka ALLAHU fikoum
EFDawah 👌🏻
Frank & Jason....the Christians Champions !!! hahahahaha
Well thank you for calling me a champion. Do you have anything to say in defense of the contradictions in the Quran which I raised? Can you even tell me why the Quran retells the Moses story seven times - and every time is different?
@@frankszanto Give it up mate....anyone with half a brain can see every time you come on that stream, you get rinsed by the panel...I don't know why you do it...unless you really are a drongo !!
Frank the champion!! 🏆🏆 Wooo you’ve debunked Islam 🤪🤡
The brothers are too polite with that troll.
Because of the Intro Choir, I thought I was in a church and entered a Christian podcast by mistake. I even had to double check twice to make sure😅. I am not sure if this is good or bad because.
3:39:04 AGE OF MARRIAGE IN THE BIBLE:
The binding of Isaac on the altar in Moriah (Genesis
22:9); Abraham informed of Rebekah's birth (Genesis
22:20-23); and Sarah's death aged 127 (Genesis
23:1-2).
Since Isaac was 37 at his mother's death, he was 37 when Rebekah was born. Isaac was 40 when he married Rebekah, Rebekah would be 3 when the marriage took place (because 40-37=3)
During an interview with Angelika Neuwirth, the distinguished Professor of Qur’anic studies, she argued that the Qur’an has never been successfully challenged by anyone, past or present:
"No one has succeeded, this is right… I really think that the Qur’an has even brought Western researchers embarrassment, who were not able to clarify how suddenly in an environment where there were not any appreciable written text, appeared the Qur’an with its richness of ideas and its magnificent wordings."
She wasn't much of a scholar. The fact that such a text appeared shows you that Muhammad lived in a society where the Bible was well known.
@@frankszanto
You seem uneducated. She is a professor. Unlike you unqualified keyboard warriors.
@@frankszanto
Wrong.
The Bible wasn't well known, it was known by some Christian Arabs but they were not the majority of Arabs in the area or listened to much.
The pagan Arabs were the majority in the area and Arab poetry was the main thing transmitted. The poets were like modern day pop stars, no one but Christians would have cared about the Bible in that area.
No.2
The COMPLETE Bible was not available in Arabia until after the death of prophet Muhammad Salalahu Alayhi Wa Salam.
Post evidence of a complete Bible in Arabia from the 6/7th century.
No.3
Majority of Arabs would have been illiterate, so unable to read.
Memorization of poetry, recitation of poetry, of family lineage, of animal lineage etc, were their forte'.
The Arabs still breed the best race horses due to great knowledge of pedigree, lineage of their horses.
@@ElyasQuick1 I think even you would know that the Book of Mormon was not around in Muhammad's time. However, it is clear that Muhammad had heard stories from the Bible. In the case of the Moses/Exodus story, he retold parts of the story at least six times.
@@michaelevans4110 What evidence do you have for your claims? My evidence is right there in the Quran. There are numerous quotations from the Bible in the Quran. There are six retellings of the Moses/Exodus story and other fragments about Moses. These are for the most part in agreement with the Bible sources, although there are embellishments and contradictions.
There are other stories from Syriac Christians sources, like the Cave and Dhul Qarnayn. The very word Quran itself comes from Syriac, and about half the 300 foreign words in the Quran are from Syriac. Mecca is not mentioned in the so-called Meccan surahs, and all the geographical hints in the text show that Muhammad was living in a place in the north of Arabia.
Almost everything in Islam is a fabrication. The very story of Muhammad receiving a revelation from and angel in a cave is not in the Quran, and is a later fabrication.
Tafsirs for 10.33 (Kathir, ibn Abbas...) all assert this is Pharaoh's people.
@2:33:45 Abbas finally realizing this guy is wasting their time. Took you long enough Akhi
insha'Allah Frank sincerely reflects on all the answers he gets and prays for guidance to Islam.
English Tajweed!!.......Ustaad Abbas de Hyde Park!! 🤩
Young Welsh seems to be maturing
"Paul was a prophet" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Note that Ijaz claimed the stories about Moses in the Quran are self contained. When I pointed at the 5 of them start either with Moses before Pharaoh, or at the burning bush, Ijaz pointed to Surah 28. Yes, Surah 28 has the back-story of Moses being put into the Nile as a baby. But it is the sixth - the only one which gives some explanation of who Moses was. The other 5 are not self-contained, and Surah 28 was revealed later than the others (except perhaps 10). So until Surah 28 was revealed, nobody knew who this Moses was who Muhammad was talking about.
But of course they knew. They had heard the Exodus story. Muhammad and his hearers lived in an area where Bible stories were well known.
Why would we need to know who Musa(as) is besides the fact that the guy spoken of was a prophet of GODS? The Quran is not a history book but it is a book of enlightenment that can only be seen by those who ponder. You looking for a storyline. Look at the story line of GOD sending prophets to warn a people and here you are denying a prophet who could be your warner. You deny even with all the many contradictions within the bible. Our prophet(pbuh) calls to GOD. Done. what more do you need to know?you deny prophet Muhammad (saw) just like the jews denied all the prophets before and Isa (as) who came as a mercy and a warner to them. There's your storyline...do you want GOD to tell you the route or the path someone strolled on to get from one place to another? Would that make it from GOD? that sounds like man written. We only need to know what we need in order to save our souls from the day of judgement not the geographical location of anyone from back in the day..
@@bravesoul964 My position is that almost everything in Islam is a fabrication, and is not a revelation from God. God has revealed Himself, and revealed Himself to Moses in the burning bush (see Exodus 3), and sent him to confront Pharaoh, and to demand that he let the enslaved Children of Israel leave.
The repeated retellings of the Moses story are evidence that the Quran is the work of men. The seven versions are all different, and are even contradictory. But when you put them all together, they cover a large part of the Exodus story from which they are copied. It is clear that Muhammad believed Exodus.
There are many inconsistencies I could point to, but the story in Surah 40 is almost totally different to Exodus, and is different to the other Surahs. In Surah 40, Moses hardly says or does anything. Instead, all the talking is done by a mysterious "secret believer", who seems to have a very thorough understanding of Islamic teaching. All the other Surahs are about Moses going to speak about God to people who will not believe, but in Surah 40, Moses doesn't need to speak, because there is already a man there who knows all about it, and it appears the Egyptians he is speaking to also know all about it but don't believe.
I state that Muhammad just copied (in the sense that he heard and then repeated) Exodus. What is your explanation? Where did he get the story from? The Quran does not say he got it from an angel. That story was made up later - like so much else in Islam.
Jamie,
I'm having trouble understanding the discussion about Michael Edwards and the others. As far as I know, Michael Edwards and Julian Ward will be working for FSG, not directly for LFC. It seems like FSG might be expanding their portfolio, but I fail to see how this benefits LFC directly. Additionally, when discussing individuals, it's important to use the correct job descriptions, as some are not directly related to LFC.
Regarding Richard Hughes, He is definitely hired for LFC, I can't help but wonder about the decisions made under his purview. Buying Solanke for £25mil, Jordan Ibe for £20mil, and Brewster for £18mil raises questions about the justification behind these talent ID and investment decisions.
Could someone clarify these points for me?
Best regards,
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The God blind Frank's heart!
I am happy to say that God has shined light into my heart. From John 1:
4 In him was life, and the life was the light of men. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.
Islam tries very hard to bring darkness and wipe out the message of Jesus. That is why I oppose it.
@@frankszanto Islam respect Jesus! Unlike Jew who say Jesus was burn out of wedlock and Mary committed adultry! Islam calls to warship THE ONLY TRUE GOD as Jesus said!!! Who do you warship Frank?DO you warship Jesus or Holy Ghost or God the Father?Which one you warship?
@@samnox2269 Muslims do not respect Jesus. They ignore every word he said, and substitute the words of a man. For example, you do not pray the way he taught us to pray.
Of course I worship the one and only true God. That is what Christians have always taught. It is Muslims who direct their worship to a man-made object in Mecca.
Prophet Muhammad PBUH provided the universal principles and rulings for marriages for all times
are you saying marrying a 6yrs old child is a principal instead it's an immoral act commanded by fake god allah!
No, God did. See what Jesus said in Matthew 19:
4 “Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’5 and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’? 6 So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”
The Quran Is A Restoration - not offshoot - of the Jesus story.
Tell me something about Jesus from the Quran. Why is it that Jesus has more to say as an infant than as a man? The nativity story appears twice, with copying from various sources. There is only one passage about Jesus as a man, in every sense, it teaches exactly the opposite to what Jesus taught. I made a video about this: th-cam.com/video/JoTOTUZgKjg/w-d-xo.html
"Over the centuries, and even today, the Bible and Christian theology have helped justify the Crusades, slavery, violence against gays, and the murder of doctors who perform abortions. The words themselves are latent, inert, harmless - until they aren't."
Amy Waldman.
I have never heard of Amy Waldman. Why is it you Muslims quote all sorts of people, but rarely the Quran? Is it because you find more clever words outside the Quran than in it?
@@frankszanto
Unfortunately you haven't studied then
@@JesusisaMuslim Your assumption is wrong. And I generally find that the masters of Copy and Paste are not masters of much else.
@@frankszanto
Christianity is false. My channel debunks Christianity and that pagan trinity
@@JesusisaMuslim I will have to look up your channel. You Muslims love to attack the teachings of Jesus, but your Quran is a joke. So much of it is incorrectly copied from the Bible.
Can you please keep each partiicipant to a time limit of 30 min. This is out of control ! 2hrs on one person.
Ex-Christian, television personality, Amber Rose, speaking about the death of Jesus Christ, she said: “I just don’t believe that Jesus died and came back to life for my sins. I just believe that’s crazy. That’s ludicrous. I believe it’s manipulative."
Any more hocus pocus from Frank and we'll have to rename him, 'The Wizard of Oz'...
It is Muhammad who loved that story of Pharaoh's magicians. He told it six times. Why do you think he kept repeating the same story?
The bible authors/writers---highly educated greek scholars were so obsessed with inbreeding stories...why do you think these writers keep repeating these stories...? Are they from yahweh/jesus ? What moral lesson are they trying to teach children reading those passages?
@@frankszanto We're all allowed to love stories but it doesn't mean anything more becomes of it. I could repeat Biblical stories of wisdom yet not fully get behind the text. We see kernels of wisdom in different things.
@@kate-224 I have no idea what you are talking about, and I don't think you do either. Please explain if you do.
The Quran gives every indication that Muhammad was just telling stories, and it is hard to see what the purpose of telling them was. In the case of these Moses stories, it seems that on one hand he was trying to show that evil people rejected the prophet. But then he makes up the bit about the magicians believing - which he contradicts in other retellings.
In Qur'an, Satan in cursed:
Qur'an 15:34-35. 34.[ Allah ] said, "Then get out of it, for indeed, you are expelled.
35.And indeed, upon you is the curse until the Day of Recompense."
In evil Christianity, Jesus is cursed:
Galatians 3:13. Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: “Cursed is everyone who is hung on a pole.”
Paul was 100% a false apostle.
All of Asia Minor rejected Paul. They complained to James about Paul that he was trying to make them end the Laws. When Paul arrives in Jerusalem, James questions Paul in Acts 21:21 about this complaint which the people of Asia Minor made. James made Paul do a nazarite vow in Acts 21:26, which included shaving his head and animal sacrifice. So they were still sacrificing animals long after Jesus.
The people of Asia Minor came back to Jerusalem and seen Paul. They dragged him out of the temple and beat him up and nearly killed him in Acts 21:27-32 for preaching against the Law of Moses.
The Roman guards came and took Paul away and jailed him. Paul then writes to Timothy and says all of those in Asia Minor had rejected him in 2 Timothy 2:15.
After Paul dies, Jesus is speaking to the people of Asia Minor. The very people who rejected Paul. Jesus is praising them for rejecting false apostles in Revelation 1:20 and Revelation 2:1-2.
The argument which no Christian can answer to is, why was Jesus praising the enemies of Paul who nearly killed him? If Paul was a true apostle, then Jesus would have rebuked them. But he was praising the very people who rejected Paul, proving Paul could never have been a true apostle. Jesus never mentioned Paul even once to them. Even Barnabas completely fell out with Paul. The church is hiding this as they know most Christians don't read Bible and are just blindfollowers.
Time 3.24 I think Pastor Jason is sitting on his microphone. He's looking around but can't find it.
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Napoleon Bonarparte was the Emperor of France. He desired Islamic rule in the West:
“I hope the time is not far off when I shall be able to unite all the wise and educated men of all the countries, and establish a uniform regime based on the principles of the Quran, which alone are true, and which alone can lead men to happiness.”
(Bonaparte et l’Islam, d’Après les Documents Français et Arabes, Christian Cherfils, Ed., Paris, France, 1914, pp. 105-125. Original References: Correspondance de Napoléon Ier. Tome 5)
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I guess you would like to be ruled by a dictator. And Islam would be attractive to dictators like Napoleon.
@@frankszanto
We don't want weak leaders like yours
@@JesusisaMuslim Yep. Islam is incompatible with democracy.
Another way to to refute Trinitarians is to ask them "if Jesus is god, then why is the Lord's prayer addressed only to the Father and not to to the son?"
Its like as if Jesus is not want to be prayed or worshipped to.
Jesus warned us about the false prophets who would follow him (Matt 7:15). To suggest he is a Muslim is blasphemy.
@@frankszanto
Jesus said choose the correct prophet. Proving there was going to be a prophet coming. Even John knew
2:45:54 should’ve asked this guy if he respects his mother and then when she is away or passes away do you respect her still or not?
Frank is!!! the Dead Horse
I think hegoes is Christian looking for justification for trinity but doesn’t want to identify as Christian bcoz he doesn’t want backlash 😂
20:30 yes very deep. Dont go there. you will drown there
When you tell Christian no Muslims worship kaba and stop they don't believe because of their ignorance only.
Because people read this loud
Labaik Allahuma Labaik
Labaik la Sharikala Labaik
لَبَّيْكَ ٱللَّٰهُمَّ لَبَّيْكَ، لَبَّيْكَ لَا شَرِيكَ لَكَ لَبَّيْكَ، إِنَّ ٱلْحَمْدَ وَٱلنِّعْمَةَ لَكَ وَٱلْمُلْكَ لَا شَرِيكَ لَكَ
The translation of this is,
“I respond to Your call O Allah! I respond to Your call. You have no partner. I respond to Your call. All praise, thanks and blessings are for You. All sovereignty is for You. And You have no partners with You).'”
Frank never cease to surprise me how delusional he is every time he jumps on a stream!
World famous author, Leo Tolstoy said:
“Muhammad has always been standing higher than the Christianity. He does not consider god as a human being and never makes himself equal to God. Muslims worship nothing except God and Muhammad is his Messenger. There is no any mystery and secret in it. The law of the Qur’an will prevail in the world because it agrees with reason and wisdom. I have come to understand that humanity needs only a Divine law to establish the truth and destroy falsehood. Islamic law will encompass the entire world because it is consistent with reason and agrees with wisdom and justice.”
I think a conversation of camera/stream would be more beneficial for Frank. As jarring as he’s been, maybe it’s a case of not wanting to show uncertainty or weakness during a livestream in front of others. I’ve even seen him engaging and arguing with people in the comments section about his appearances on the channel. Just my 2 cents
Anywhere, any time. The Quran contains nonsense. The Bible contains the message of salvation.
@@frankszanto Indeed, it is not the eyes that are blind, but it is the hearts in the chests that grow blind. (22:46)
@@frankszanto Let’s just agree that we all believe in God and know that there’s a severe punishment awaiting for insincere people who turn away from the truth. So even if you never agree on anything else with Muslims on these kinda channels, at the very least just be sincere with yourself and with God. If you sincerely seek the truth and put aside any pride or defensiveness you have about your current faith then you might have an excuse on the day of judgement when you’re in the presence of God Almighty. We both believe that the consequences of your beliefs are enormous. May Allah ﷻ guide you.
@@idirismohamed1160 Isaiah spoke of a time when:
35:5 Then the eyes of the blind shall be opened, and the ears of the deaf unstopped; 6 then shall the lame man leap like a deer, and the tongue of the mute sing for joy.
700 years later Jesus quoted this, in Matthew 11:2:
Now when John heard in prison about the deeds of the Christ, he sent word by his disciples 3 and said to him, “Are you the one who is to come, or shall we look for another?” 4 And Jesus answered them, “Go and tell John what you hear and see: 5 the blind receive their sight and the lame walk, lepers are cleansed and the deaf hear, and the dead are raised up, and the poor have good news preached to them.
Jesus is the fulfillment of God's promise, but Islam tries to suppress everything he said. By the way, John the Baptist is mentioned in the Quran twice, but only his birth - there is nothing about what he taught and said.
@@idirismohamed1160 I believe that God has revealed the truth in Jesus, and that Islam was invented to wipe out what Jesus taught.
Have you read the gospels. Jesus was the greatest teacher. Can you even compare the words of the Quran to what Jesus taught?
In the "Islam and the West" speech, King Charles lll talked about the misunderstanding in the west about Islam.
"If there is much misunderstanding in the West about the nature of Islam, there is also much ignorance about the debt our own culture and civilisation owe to the Islamic world. It is a failure which stems, I think, from the straitjacket of history which we have inherited. The medieval Islamic world, from Central Asia to the shores of the Atlantic, was a world where scholars and men of learning flourished. But because we have tended to see Islam as the enemy of the West, as an alien culture, society and system of belief, we have tended to ignore or erase its great relevance to our own history."
On how Christianity can learn from Islam, he says: "Islam can teach us today a way of understanding and living in the world which Christianity itself is the poorer for having lost. At the heart of Islam is its preservation of an integral view of the Universe."
He added that Islam refuses to "separate man and nature, religion and science, mind and matter, and has preserved a metaphysical and unified view of ourselves and the world around us."
1:58:57 I think Brother Imran misspoke said "the Quran was revised....." he must have menat "the Quran was reviewed" later he said the correct term
He was right the first time. You don't think that stuff about Muhammad and his adopted son's wife was in the original version of surah 33, do you?
@@frankszanto memorization is the primeray sources dear Frank, may God guide you and be pleased with you, and manuscripts attest it (don't expect me to leave all this out for layman to tell me otherwise) in my family there are 2 , and the larger family 6 or 7 who memorized the whole Quran, and many of us memorize third, or quarter of it.. many.. But Frank you approach to this is incorrect. Imagine I tell you similar type of accusation about your faith that you know is wrong, you will think I am dishonest brother and it break the trust in the conversation that is why you can't change a muslim mind (you may claim it here out of pride) but we know it isn't the case.
but you cant for 2 reasons: here is the secret,
1. you make dishonest claims or false interpreation of Quran etc
2. you are astray when you leave what Jesus taught and follow Paul. just a tiny example out of many, didn't Jesus say whoever break the commandment will be called the least in Heaven and whoever etc... did not he say "not even a title , a jot from the law shall be changed.." Paul abolished the law, hence the least in the kingdom of heaven (he or whoever wrote in his name)
Jesus pbuh, was teaching them the law, and predicting a person to come who will change it.. Paul say the law is abolished, Paul who never met Jesus nor was sure whom he saw on the road to Damascus and has 2 different account of it, in one he saw light, in another they ONLY heard a voice!!
and taught different gospel..
I don't know why Frank but each time I see you I still think deep down you are good guy.. and I have seen all the Open Forum series all, and now starting this... but I think you are blinded (possibly because God knows you know the truth but reject it due to one of these reasons:
1. love to your tradtiions (your culture, or as Quranic term Forfathers' way)
2. nationalism
3. you reject the region and the people where islam started (if you say but I accept Jesus who came from same region) yes because when Chrisitanity started there weren't many propaganda against that region as today, today Christians dies in that region due to the current war, and many christian don't raise voices (I mean in their majority) why ? because they don't like that region ?why? propaganda etc etc
4. because you place family ties if clergy , or funding, etc..over the God's truth.
5. you love to follow your desire,Islam require work and in Christianity you can be free from these rules, just believe "a man from Palestine died for you 2000 years ago to save you ) or "God kill his own supposed son to save you because you are special, you don't have to do anything beyond that believe)
God knows 100% that you are not sure about Christianity , I know that and I am mere mortal, of these reasons you have, imagine how much God knows.
Frank dear brother we are all human and love to live, and have less rules, and follow our desire etc.. but we know we have to follow God's commands we don't accept anyone to come and say "the law in Quran is abolished" and say "okkk" so now we can do what we wish, that is wishful thinking..
nice to talk to you , I wish you the best
@@sutil5078 The question you need to consider is, when was the Quran as we have it completed? Muslim sources say that Hajjaj bin Yusef changed verses in the Quran. The story in Surah 33 is terrible - that Muhammad took his own adopted son's wife. I think it is highly unlikely he did this - he was faithful to his one wife Khadija until her death.
@@sutil5078 I had been speaking to some Muslims before I began to go on EFDawah's livestreams - in fact one of them who I used to speak to regularly told me to watch. I was very much angered by the way they were attacking the Bible and Christianity in the so-called historicity streams.
At the time, when I tried to raise issues about the Quran, they said I would have to wait until they did the historicity of the Quran - and Hamza assured me I could be first in line when they came to the Quran. Four years later, I am still waiting for a Quran historicity series.
But in the meantime, I have read some of the Quran, and find there are many differences between what the Quran actually says, and what Muslims teach. And there are a lot of stories in the Quran copied from the Bible, with errors.
Islam disrespects Jesus, and substitutes another message in his place. That is why I expend energy showing Muslims that the Quran is not from God.
Hegoes4fun Suddenly started to speak faster at the end not 1 word each minute, he was wasting this steam time
There is no original sin. Adam and Eve prayed for forgiveness and God forgave them.
Qur'an 2:37. Then Adam received from his Lord [some] words, and He accepted his repentance. Indeed, it is He who is the Accepting of repentance, the Merciful.
The prayer for forgiveness by Adam and Eve.
Qur'an 7:23. “Our Lord, we have wronged ourselves, and if You do not forgive us and have mercy upon us, we will surely be among the losers.”
@EFDawah, that clown asking about Moses, the arabs know there are prophets or historical persons like Moses, Jesus and Suliman, there is even a mention of Suliman pbuh in a poetry for the poet "Al-Zubiany' from pre-islamic era. That while also there are jews who know that, so you don't define the defined. The stories of Moses pbuh is mentioned to teach muslims about the mistakes and sins that his followers were doing so we can avoid it. That's why he was advising the prophet pbuh in the Me'rag trip, regarding the prayers and the abillity of people to follow on commands.
Does Frank have any friends?
*_Is Frank one of the convicts down under?_*
"Young Welsh" is a typical snake. Not actually on the stream to learn or understand or clarify. Just there to make silly statements and avoid answering questions and then try to proselytize.
The following verse is deemed as a forgery by Christian scholars, and has been thrown out of the modern day translations. This verse is nowhere to be found in any Greek manuscripts until the 15th century. It was added to deceive Christians.
1 John 5:7. For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
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One day, please ask Frank why he bothers coming to Muslim channels if his mind is already made up.
‘Ubadah ibn al-Samit reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Whoever testifies that there is no God but Allah alone without any partners, that Muhammad is His servant and His messenger, that Jesus is the servant of Allah and His messenger, His word which He bestowed upon Mary and a spirit from Him, and that Paradise is the truth and Hellfire is the truth, then Allah will admit him into Paradise by whatever good deeds he had done.”
Sahih al-Bukhari 3435, Sahih Muslim 28
God doesn't need to kill himself to forgive our sins. God forgives all our sins above His blessed Throne.
Abu Huraira reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “When a Muslim or a believer washes his face in ablution, every sin that he committed with his eyes will be washed away with the last drop of water. When he washes his hands, every sin that he committed with his hands will be washed away with the last drop of water. When he washes his feet, every sin that he committed with his feet will be washed away with the last drop of water, until he emerges purified from sin.”
Sahih Muslim 244
You have to forgive Frank. He's Australian, not English. His desperation is now getting the better of him.
Don't insult other intelligent Australians in here mate !!! hahaha
@@rosdykalat2620 fair call
I take the trouble to educate you Muslims about your own book, which you do not seem to read very carefully. Why did Muhammad tell the Moses story six times? The contradictions between the different versions are clear. And by the way, I was born in England.
@@frankszanto See..........You seem to always bring something that has nothing to do with the discussion...even your comment of being born in England !! Do you call yourself English or an Aussie ??? An Aussie of course because that's where you mostly grew up right ?? So what's the point of bringing up where you were born ??
@@rosdykalat2620 It was Abbas who raised the subject, and ShoaibAhmedNZ (above) continued it.
Who talks like that . First episode , second episode .. May allah guide us all. Amin
Trinity is ancient paganism.
Egyptian Trinity
Father Osiris, mother Isis and son Horus
Hindu Trinity
Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva
Christian Trinity
Father, son Jesus and Holy Spirit
"If Paganism was conquered by Christianity, it is equally true that Christianity was corrupted by Paganism. The pure Deism of the first Christians . . . was changed, by the Church of Rome, into the incomprehensible dogma of the trinity. Many of the pagan tenets, invented by the Egyptians and idealized by Plato, were retained as being worthy of belief."
Edward Gibbon's History of Christianity.
According to allah in quran!😂
Can a 6yrs old child be physically,mentally,psychologically ready to make decision on being married unless her evil parents allow it!!
They never killed Jesus. The matter of the fact that Jesus was praying, sweating and begging God to save him from his enemies in Matthew 26:39 and Luke 22:44, clearly shows he never wanted to die, and God heard his prayers and saved him as prophesied in the full Pslam 91 chapter and the following verses:
Pslam 91:10-16. Because you have made the Lord your dwelling place-
the Most High, who is my refuge-
10 no evil shall be allowed to befall you,
no plague come near your tent.
11 For he will command his angels concerning you to guard you in all your ways.
12 On their hands they will bear you up, lest you strike your foot against a stone.
13 You will tread on the lion and the adder; the young lion and the serpent you will trample underfoot.
14 “Because he holds fast to me in love, I will deliver him; I will protect him, because he knows my name.
15 When he calls to me, I will answer him; I will be with him in trouble; I will rescue him and honor him.
16 With long life I will satisfy him and show him my salvation.”
Pslam 18:3. I will call upon the LORD, who is worthy to be praised: so shall I be saved from mine enemies.
Pslam 34:6. This poor man cried, and the Lord heard him, and saved him out of all his troubles.
Pslam 34:19-20. 19. Many are the afflictions of the righteous: but the Lord delivereth him out of them all.
20. He keepeth all his bones: not one of them is broken.
Pslam 41:2.The Lord will preserve him, and keep him alive; and he shall be blessed upon the earth: and thou wilt not deliver him unto the will of his enemies.
Pslam 20:6. Now I know that the LORD saves His anointed; He will answer him from His holy heaven With the saving strength of His right hand.
Pslam 118:17. I will not die but live, and will proclaim what the LORD has done.
Hebrews 5:7. Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared;
3:37:21 In the Bible the age of marriage for a girl is 3.
Frank - it's the same as saying "But no one believed in the verbal diarrhoea of Frank except a few intellectually challenged people of his Australian Group '!!
Do you imagine you are an intellectual? Do you believe Solomon sent jinns to steal the Queen of Sheba's throne? Do you believe his corpse balanced on a stick for some unspecified period in order to trick the jinns?
@@frankszanto Never said I was...so if you have any problems believing that, yet you're ok with Saints rising from the dead in Matthew 27:50-53 ??? Thats ok cause it's from the Bible right ??
@@frankszantohere we go Solomon and the jinn, same story for last 2 years, you are cooked lol
@@finalprophet813 Yep. It is by the most ridiculous story in the Quran, and proves beyond doubt that it is the work of men. The only "rebuttal" I have had is that I am hypocritical because I believe miracles in the Bible, but not in the Quran. How does that work? Because there are some miracles in the Bible, Muhammad is allowed to make up some of his own? This more than anything shows me Muslims are brainwashed into following a cult.
@@rosdykalat2620 So you don't believe in the resurrection? Are you seriously comparing resurrection to a fairy story about jinns, and a king whose corpse balanced on a stick for months? None of his servants noticed he never came in for dinner. The kingdom ran itself and nobody had to ask the king for a decision?
All sins are forgiven for those who accept Islam.
Qur'an 8:38. Say to those who have disbelieved [that] if they cease, what has previously occurred will be forgiven for them.
‘Amr ibn al-‘As reported: The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Do you not know that embracing Islam wipes away all sins committed before it, that emigration wipes away what came before it, and the Hajj pilgrimage wipes away what came before it?”
Sahih Muslim 121
Try to debunk Quran, ijaz just made frank look like a fool 😅
3:39:04 BIBLE SAID ISAAC AT 40 OLD
MARRIED REBECCA
A (3) YEARS OLD KID.
The Biblical Facts:
The Following Scriptural Facts Are Used To Establish Rebekah's Age
At Her Marriage To Isaac.
1. Sarah Was
90 When Abraham Was 100 (Gen 17:17).
2. Abraham Was 100 When Isaac Was Born (Gen21:5).
3. Sarah Died At Aged 127 (Gen 23:1-2).
4. Isaac Was 40 When He Married Rebekah (Gen25:20).
5. Sarah Was 90 When Isaac Was Born (Conclusion From 1 And 2
Above)
6. Isaac Was 37 When His Mother Sarah Died (Because 127-90=37)
7. Since Isaac Was 37 At His Mother's Death, He Was 37 When Rebekah Was Born.
8.Since Isaac Was 40 When He Married Rebekah, Rebekah Would Be
3 When The Marriage Took Place (Because 40-37=(3)...
. " REBECCA
WAS 3 YRS old
25:39 he fell by clumsyness what a joke he is. Sounds like he is trolling
Frank fool fits very well
Prophet Mohammad (pbuh) will be the leader of mankind on Judgement Day and will be the first one to enter Paradise.
It was narrated that Abu Hurayrah that the Messenger of God, Prophet Mohammad said: “I will be the leader of mankind of the Day of Resurrection, the first whose grave will be opened, the first to intercede and the first to be asked to intercede.”
Sahih Muslim, 2278
Anas b. Malik reported:
The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: I will come to the gate of Paradise on the Day of Resurrection. and would seek its opening. and the keeper would say: Who art thou? I would say: Muhammad. He would then say: It is for thee that I have been ordered, and not to open it for anyone before thee.
Sahih Muslim 197
Jesus meets no criteria of a god
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(Matthew 4:1) Jesus was tempted
(James 1:13) God cannot be tempted
(John 1:29) Jesus was seen
(1 John 4:12) No man has ever seen God
(Acts 2:22) Jesus was and is a man, sent by God
(Numbers 23:19, Hosea 11:9) God is not a man
(Hebrews 5:8-9) Jesus had to grow and learn
(Isaiah 40:28) God doesn’t ever need to learn
(1 Corinthians 15:3-4) Jesus died
(1 Timothy 1:17) God cannot die
(Hebrews 5:7) Jesus needed salvation
(Luke 1:37) God doesn’t need salvation
(John 4:6) Jesus grew weary
(Isaiah 40:28) God can’t grow weary
(Mark 4:38) Jesus slept
(Psalm 121:2-4) God doesn’t sleep
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The quran explained Muhammad (pba). wouldn't do anything except by God's order. He doesn't do anything from his own feeling.
So we do kiss the black Stone because of he did it, he wouldn't do. we know he wouldn't do anything from his own feeling except by God's
God has no sons. The meaning of the term “Son of God” in the Old and New Testament.
In the Bible, the term “Son of God” means a righteous servant of God. It does not mean literally divine son of God. The Oxford Dictionary of the Jewish Religion confirms that in Jewish idiom “Son of God” is clearly metaphorical.
In previous Scriptures, pious believers were called “sons of God.” It was not only Jesus who was “son of God” in the bible; other Prophets were also called “son of God.” For example:
David: Psalm 2:7. I will declare the decree: the Lord hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
Solomon: 2 Samuel 7:13-14. He shall build an house for my name, and I will stablish the throne of his kingdom for ever.
I will be his father, and he shall be my son. If he commit iniquity, I will chasten him with the rod of men, and with the stripes of the children of men:
Adam: Luke 3:38. Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.
God has no real son. Jesus, David, Solomon, etc. were only close servants of God
📌 At our death bed:
our culture, traditions, wealth, properties, and desires to sin would be so insignificant to us, so meaningless in that moment just like hearing that somewhere in China has died, a tree or a little leaf fallen from one of the trees of your preschool garden, (at that moment you are that ant, the falling leaf). The seriousness of that, is we can't comeback and fix that, and eternity await..
It is not a joke, and our death is real. So the smart safe way is (to be sincere when we research faiths) at least do our homework, and Allah promises guidance to the sincere. Don't let your health deceive you it won't be eternal! Show your creator your sincerity when searching for him right now while alive and healthy. Remember him in good time so he will remember you in your hardship. at Deathbed the most important thing for you is "did I please God, did I make the right choice?"
May Allah guide all of us, grant us mercy, love, and highest heaven with the prophets and His righteous servants.
2:42:20 so if ur mum is dead or u move to other place for 20y, u dont respect ur mum no more, she dosent deserve respect anymore? i dont follow sorry
The Bible says no one has ever seen God. And yet people saw Jesus. This again proves that Jesus cannot be God.
Deuteronomy 4.12. Then the Lord spoke to you out of the fire. You heard the sound of words but saw no form; there was only a voice.
Exodus 33.20. But,” he said, “you cannot see my face, for no one may see me and live.”
1 John 4.12. No one has ever seen God;
1 Timothy 1.17. Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory for ever and ever. Amen.
1 Timothy 6:15-16.15. which God will bring about in his own time-God, the blessed and only Ruler, the King of kings and Lord of lords,
16. who alone is immortal and who lives in unapproachable light, whom no one has seen or can see. To him be honor and might forever. Amen.
Qur'an 6.103. No vision can grasp Him, but His Grasp is over all vision.
Qur'an 7.143. And when Moses arrived at Our appointed time and his Lord spoke to him, he said, "My Lord, show me [Yourself] that I may look at You." [Allah] said, "You will not see Me, but look at the mountain; if it should remain in place, then you will see Me." But when his Lord appeared to the mountain, He rendered it level, and Moses fell unconscious. And when he awoke, he said, "Exalted are You! I have repented to You, and I am the first of the believers."
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Jesus was a prophet and not god. The people living around him knew he was a prophet. Nobody called Jesus everlasting father, mighty god or prince of peace.
John 4:19. 19 “Sir,” the woman said, “I can see that you are a prophet.
Luke 24:19. “About Jesus of Nazareth,” they replied. “He was a prophet,
Jesus even called himself a prophet.
Luke 13:33. Nevertheless I must walk to day, and to morrow, and the day following: for it cannot be that a prophet perish out of Jerusalem.
1:40:25 "problem that angel Jibrail, as, didnt introduce or smth" logically speaking what was the message? read... read in the name of your lord who teach/taught by the pen what u did not know... what implies that this is devil? what is wrong with this message, that it CAN NOT BE FROM ANGEL?
Frank as a fellow Australian... stop embarrassing us! Thank God you're not representing us in a court of law.
All the Prophets were Muslims who submitted to the will of God:
Qur’an 22:78. And strive for Allah with the striving due to Him. He has chosen you and has not placed upon you in the religion any difficulty. [It is] the religion of your father, Abraham. Allah named you “Muslims” before [in former scriptures] and in this [revelation] that the Messenger may be a witness over you and you may be witnesses over the people.
Abraham:
Qur’an 3:67. Abraham was neither a Jew nor a Christian, but he was one inclining toward truth, a Muslim [submitting to Allah]. And he was not of the polytheists.
Jacob and his sons:
Qur’an 2:132-133. 132. And Abraham instructed his sons [to do the same] and [so did] Jacob, [saying], “O my sons, indeed Allah has chosen for you this religion, so do not die except while you are Muslims.”
133. Or were you witnesses when death approached Jacob, when he said to his sons, “What will you worship after me?” They said, “We will worship your God and the God of your fathers, Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac - one God. And we are Muslims [in submission] to Him.”
Joseph: Qur’an 21:101. My Lord, You have given me [something] of sovereignty and taught me of the interpretation of dreams. Creator of the heavens and earth, You are my protector in this world and in the Hereafter. Cause me to die a Muslim and join me with the righteous.”
Disicples were Muslims too.
Qur’an 3:52. But when Jesus felt [persistence in] disbelief from them, he said, “Who are my supporters for [the cause of] Allah?” The disciples said,” We are supporters for Allah. We have believed in Allah and testify that we are Muslims [submitting to Him].
Qur’an 5:111. And [remember] when I inspired to the disciples, “Believe in Me and in My messenger Jesus.” They said, “We have believed, so bear witness that indeed we are Muslims [in submission to Allah].”
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Allah has promised the Paradise for the believers.
Qur’an 41:30-32. 30. Indeed, those who have said, “Our Lord is Allah ” and then on a right course - the angels will descend upon them, [saying], “Do not fear and do not grieve but receive good tidings of Paradise, which you were promised.
31. We [angels] were your allies in worldly life and [are so] in the Hereafter. And you will have therein whatever your souls desire, and you will have therein whatever you request [or wish]
32. As accommodation from a [Lord who is] Forgiving and Merciful.”
Qur'an 9:72. Allah has promised the believing men and believing women gardens beneath which rivers flow, wherein they abide eternally, and pleasant dwellings in gardens of perpetual residence; but approval from Allah is greater. It is that which is the great attainment.
Lots of principals ie.bussiness etc.came thousands of years b4 islam!!
God sent the Holy Spirit (Angel Gabriel) to the final Prophet, Mohammad, to deliver the message for all of mankind for our eternal salvation.
Qur'an 2:97-98. 97. Say, "Whoever is an enemy to Gabriel - it is [none but] he who has brought the Qur'an down upon your heart, [O Muhammad], by permission of Allah , confirming that which was before it and as guidance and good tidings for the believers."
28. Whoever is an enemy to Allah and His angels and His messengers and Gabriel and Michael - then indeed, Allah is an enemy to the disbelievers.
Qur'an 16:102. Say, the Holy Spirit has brought the revelation from thy Lord in Truth, in order to strengthen those who believe, and as a Guide and Glad Tidings to Muslims.
Qur'an 26:192-193. 192. And indeed, the Qur'an is the revelation of the Lord of the worlds.
193. The Trustworthy Spirit has brought it down
194. Upon your heart, [O Muhammad] - that you may be of the warners -
Jesus is not god. Jesus said he has a god.
Mark 12:29. Jesus replied, “The most important commandment is this: ‘Listen, O Israel! The Lord our God is the one and only Lord .
John 17:3. Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.
John 20:17. Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’”
Jesus also made it very clear that he can do nothing, and did not like people equating him to god:
Matthew 19:17. And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one,
John 5:30. I can of mine own self do nothing:
Jesus is NOT God.
God is not a man:
Hosea 11:9. for I am God, and not man;
Peter said Jesus was only a man chosen by God:
Acts 2:22. Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:
Jesus prayed to God:
Luke 6:12. And it came to pass in those days, that he went out into a mountain to pray, and continued all night in prayer to God.
Jesus prostrated on the floor on his face praying to God, just as Muslims do.
Matthew 26:39. And he went a little farther, and fell on his face, and prayed,
Jesus said he has a God:
John 17:3. Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.
John 20:17. Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
Mark 12:29. And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
Jesus said he can do nothing:
John 5:30. I can of mine own self do nothing:
Jesus said only God is good:
Mark 10:18. And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.
When a person's heart is darkened the the truth the light is never shown always be disbeliever hegoes4show was very stupid and he needs to go back to educate
THE MUSLIM PANEL MUST JUST KEEP ON KISSING AND RESPECTING BLACKSTONE FOR FORGIVENESS OF SINS BUT FOR NO REASON!!😂😂
Yeah keep making stuff up if that makes you feel better
Imran's sarcarsm won't help at all,the question frank is asking shows how copy and paste islam religion is!!