1933 Alfa Romeo 8C 2300 Monza ex Scuderia Ferrari: Supercharged Straight-8 Engine Sound!
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- This video is about a legendary Alfa Romeo 8C 2300 Monza I managed to see and record not once, not twice but three times during 2021. You can enjoy the sound of the straight-8 engine in action around Monza Circuit and then on some beautiful Swiss winding roads!
Designed in 1930 by Vittorio Jano starting from the contemporary Alfa 6C, it was produced in both road and racing versions and named according to the engine displacement and the type of bodywork mounted. For Jano a car, even if designed for racing, not only had to be powerful but also stable, manageable and as light as possible in order to be able to adapt to road use as well. This was the key philosophy behind the extreme success of the 8C family and which made these cars to be successful both in the Mille Miglia and the Targa Florio but also in Grand Prix races and in the 24 Hours of Le Mans.
Vittorio Jano designed a straight-8 engine which was built up from two blocks of four cylinders with the gear drive to the overhead camshafts sandwiched in between. Its first displacement was of 2.3 litre engine and it was paired with a roots-type supercharger. The max power output was of around 140hp. Subsequently the dispacement was increased to 2.6-litre and then up to 2.9-litre which gave their name to the various 8C 2600 and 8C 2900.
The first success came at the Targa Florio 1931, with Nuvolari at the wheel. Another important victory came at the Italian Grand Prix in Monza of the same year, with a modified 8C 2300 single-seater with a shortened wheelbase, upgraded engine with a max power of 165hp, new bodywork with sharpened tail, different front grille and exhaust pipe placed along the left side of the car. Since then this version was nicknamed 8C 2300 "Monza" and produced in only 10 units to participate in numerous grand prix throughout Europe.
In 1933 the successes of Alfa Romeo in motorsport competitions were marked by Enzo Ferrari's Scuderia Ferrari which had already raced and won with Alfa Romeo cars since 1929. Scuderia Ferrari (and subsequently also many private drivers) increased the engine displacement of their 8Cs to 2.6-litre, to obtain 180hp at 5600 rpm.
The 8C Monza featured in this video should be chassis 2211120. It was entered by Scuderia Ferrari in the 1933 Monaco Grand Prix for Tazio Nuvolari, who lead the race until he had to retire on the very last lap of the race. Over the winter, the car was rebuilt at Scuderia Ferrari and chassis renamed F28 (as per Ferrari nomenclature after each car they built).
0:00 Kuno Schaer Track Day 2021 - Monza Circuit
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Incredible. A true look back into the history of racing. The straight-8 has such a distinct sound
Ahh, that deep rumble and the supercharger whine. Like a symphony. 😍
put 20 of those on the grid and i might start watching f1 again :)
Now I understand why Scuderia Ferrari got a special color for the 1000 race, by this car
Not really because of this, it is because the earliest Ferraris (and I do mean the earliest cars that carried the Ferrari badge) do use a Burgundy red colour
From the earliest days of Italian race cars until the early 60’s?Deep Blood Red. Pure LOVE
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@@jcgabriel1569 those first cars were these alfa 8c cars.
No tiene que ver con esto
Just listen... its beautiful
really distinct music that I8!
Beautiful car, beautiful sounds, and it all seems so effortless.🍀❤️
Absolute Beauty and History in motion
That multiple overtake at five minutes reminds me of me a few years ago. Get less ballsy as you get older. Just feel like a berk doing it now. But I do it if I have to. Top stuff
I'm not saying you should do that with such a historic car but I was able to instantly tell after 15 seconds that the woman driving knew the car far better than any of the others in the video. It is instantly evident that she has had the most seat time and experience even in the slower portions and her shifts.
Nice video! It amazing to think that this car is 88 years old. Even though it is very early on in terms of Motorsport it’s still recognisable as the genesis of Grand Prix racing. The straight 8 engine with its supercharger definitely has a distinct sound. Do love these prewar cars and what they represent. If I had unlimited money I’d have one of these and a 4 half litre Bentley Blower in a collection together.
Re Bentley - go for a Speed 6. The Blower's racing history is not that good...
what a treat to see this car being driven hard
WOW what a treat that was! thanks Bozzy
Super incredible. I need one of these. I do not just want one. I do not think I can live without one..lol
Love the sound of that strait 8. Bellissimo!
Italian cars are simply best!
Next Maserati 250F its great too and that engine sound.
Hands down one of the coolest cars on the planet
very beautiful shots, the sound of the 8 cylinder is captivating, thank you for sharing 👍
What a great sounding car!
If I got it right, that is chassis no. 2211120, the car Nuvolari used in that famous 100-lap duel with his rival Achille Varzi at the 1933 Monaco GP. And also the car Antonio Brivio drove to win that year's Swedish Summer GP. And also, since it is a former Scuderia Ferrari team car, it had the enlarged 2600cc engine, rather than the 2300cc on original models. Scuderia Ferrari did that to keep ahead of Maseratis and Bugattis of the time, but the extra engine power and torque put extra strain on the drivetrain.
Fast forward to 2012, the German owner of this car, drove it from his house in Germany, on the road, to Goodwood Motor Circuit, to compete at the Goodwood Revival. He won the race he entered in the car, and after the meeting, he drove it all the way back home again!
Absolutely brilliant!
Thank you very much for sharing that.
@@claudiomarangone614 This car also raced at the very first Monaco Historique GP in 1997, where it once again, faced old adversaries like Maserati 26M, Bugattis Type 35, 37, and 51, and even a few sister cars! This car is one of the contenders for the win, until it tangled with one of the Bugatti Type 35Bs while fighting for the lead at Rascasse, causing it to retire with a punctured front tire...
Amazing! 👏👏👏
Spectacular 🤩🤩🤩
Yess!! finally!! Thank you!!!
This car is cool on cool. Must be an absolute blast to drive it. The sound is perfect.
Perfect fly by at 2:30, love it.
Sounds like a plane~
What a beautiful machine
Shared in my F1 Facebook group NICE !!!!!
Wonderfuuuuuuul car 👏
Fantastic
Oh my god 😍😍😍🔥🔥
What a car. If I could only afford one of the Pursang recreations!
SPIRIT OF SPEED 1937!
Hi and thanks Bozzy just awsome beautiful 😍
Ferrari _before_ Ferrari? Now that’s something you don’t see everyday.
When Scuderia Ferrari literally meaned a team founded by Enzo Ferrari.A team,simply a team.Later Ferrari founded his own sportscar company to make road cars,and F1/F2 cars
Very good point. It’s cool to know where Ferrari started out and how that lead us to the Ferrari of today. It all started with an Alfa Romeo and a desire and love to race.
If you think about it, the structures that Alfa Romeo has participated to Grand Prix racing through are Scuderia Ferrari, Autodelta, Euroracing (which later merged with Brun Motorsport into EuroBrun) and Sauber. Three of these four teams used to take part or AR taking part to F1 with cars that carry their names.
@@simoneburini4036 Absolutely. Alfa Romeo was essentially a foundation for teams to use and in turn develop there own brands of it. Take for example the tuning world where companies like AMG started out by modifying Mercedes and then went on to become their own company. Obviously in that particular case AMG was bought out by Mercedes. But still you get the idea.
@@francoisg3500 Basically a school for racing teams in F1.How Euroracing acheived experience in F1?.Representing Alfa Romeo during 80s
Thankyou
I can't help wishing he'd push it a bit more, look how hard they race at the Goodwood Revival for instance. I also can't help wishing they'd be allowed to wear period costumes and helmets. Still, I love that dark red Alfa Romeo colour.
Que joya!
- Å fan! 👍
Music. Thanks Bozzy for doing some vintage stuff. The 2300 was a fantastic car - and lovely to hear that double-declutching :-)). PS 2:12 - did the Type 35 get the better of the Alfa???
That is a serious ALFA , not a 70s or 80s rustbucket !
That engine sounds so together , it can run for a thousant years .
1933 incredibile ciao
How much is it worth? 20 million? A priceless car. Beautiful piece of engineering, one of the fastest cars of its era. Double overhead cam. Thank you for filming this Ultra rare car.
Not 20, but about 3-5 depending on who wants to buy and how badly they want it.
Who cares about financial value. Just enjoy the car...
@@paulcaswell2813 lots of people are interested in price...I love it when classics become so valuable that they become somewhere to park millions of dollars and thus immortal. Even if it gets burnt in a fire, it will be restored.
@@cocojeffrey8502 That's the very thing I hate about the top level cars: they're there to be driven - and in the case of sporting cars - DAMNED HARD. To see them pampered and virtually wrapped in cotton wool makes my blood boil! Just a personal iew.
@@paulcaswell2813 there's a petrolicious video of a Lamborghini owner...who says....you never really own these cars, you just maintain them for the next generation.
Certainly some are driven hard, say at Goodwood etc...I can't imagine the insurance cost, and it's a double edged sword...not expensive...it dies, very expensive...rarely driven.
Remind me of rose r and a boat nice, Thank y
Alain de Cadenet, in his old "Victory by Design" series, said that if you got an 8C Monza, everyone takes you seriously.
And, with a car, that looks, goes, and sounds like that, I can't see the reason why anyone won't take an 8C Monza seriously!
Plus, the sight of the car on the Swiss mountain road, supercharger whining, and the deep growl of the engine echoing across the valley, is just incredible!
I saw one of those run at the Ferrari Challenge at Road Atlanta. I think that was 2004
I suspect that straight 8 had quite a bit of low end torque . Great sound especially with the supercharger
Those Alfa 8C engines were known to have a lot of torque at low revs. The Monza's successor, the famed Alfa Romeo P3 Tipo B, for example, had its first gear removed in 1934-35 to enable them to put wider gears inside the gearbox casting to make it stand the extra power of a more powerful engine. The driver noticed that they could launch and accelerate in what was basically the second gear just as well...
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Great car, not my favourite 12C 37 or the Tipo 316, but a great Alfa still!
Try Maserati 250F.
My all-time favourite is the P3, followed by this car, then the 158/159 "Alfetta".
Think I just found my new favourite old school racer, way nicer than a D type Jaguar
Ehi bozzy can I take some clips from your video for a tik tok?
Is it the same car? It seems to change the license plate regularly
It is, I saw the old Milanese registration number painted at the front.
You gotta love the contrast at4:35, as it's followed by that ... thing 🙈
Omg this sounds identical to lightning McQueen
I wonder how much such a car costs🤔
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And this is compressed TH-cam sound, I have heard it all, even a raging 30s Bugatti, but theres nothing that can match the Straight 8 Jano sound, real life. Unless of course you own a bugatti from that periode that Bugatti WAS Bugatti and not some computergenerated VW shit, you paid so much for it that you will have to lie. But the Alfa still sounds better. Its a sound that just sits in your body, even better than having a Harrier taking off outside your bedroom window, while trying to do what you do with a girlriend before you really know what fucking is all about, the Jano straight 8s just sounds awesome. The best sound you will ever hear, well, I Do might come close, but thats it. Goddamn those are some serious engines. I can not afford one, and if I coud I would not buy it. I t's like having sex with a french woman, its great but you cant live with a woman that speak greek.
Pretty sure that is a Pur Sang replica.. as is the Bugatti.. Both are allowed at vintage events.. The original Alfa is worth millions…
It is an original car. It is chassis 2211120.
who else hates turn 1 chicane at monza? i think it ruins the track.
I think the first bit of the chicane is a bit too tight. In my opinion, if the chicane's first part is a bit less tight and a bit faster, the better.
But the thing is, chicanes weren't a new thing at Monza. The chicanes used in the 1935 layout, for instance, is so severe that it eliminated almost all of the Mercedes Benz entries at the 1935 Italian GP.
Isn’t this the famous Alfa that Tazio Nuvolari drove at Nürburgring and beat all the big German Mercedes and Auto Unions?
No, that's P3 chassis no. 50005. This is an earlier 8C "Monza", chassis no. 2211120 (I think), which is the car he used in the 100-lap duel with Achille Varzi at Monaco in 1933...
@@jcgabriel1569 It’s awesome all the same to see this amazing automobile.
@@jcgabriel1569 Just found out it was the 1935 German GP and the car was the Alfa P3 "Tipo B".
@@cletotirabassi Yeah, it is chassis number 50005. It's sister car, chassis number 50004, is actually owned by Nuvolari in 1935, according to one source!
400th like lol
I need a cigarette
I wish we could bypass or blur out faces of all the wealthy spoilt owners of these cars. Why give them the satisfaction of any perceived bewonderment & envy. I wish we could view these cars minus the owners.