In france we don’t drink coffee out-side like zizek on the contrary we have thé au logis (tea at home fyi) that would be coherent with its greatest philosopher of god Blaise Pascal…
The joke is close to exact with Kierkegaard's conception of "double-vision" just re-framed through Aquinas's position, which is in fullness is Christianity's ethics, being that all pleasures is but vanity and death, whereas suffering is in actuality life. Zizek's conclusion is obviously Christian in rationality.
I agree with most of what Slavoj says about happiness when related to love, knowledge and so on and so on, the thing is that he is assuming a particular definition of happiness. I happiness was to be defined as something that can include suffering because of love, the entire premise would be the same, but changing a couple of words.
Coming from a Happiness video of Zizek, I realize that Heaven is just the "ideal world" that's "not very different from ours" yet is "totally unattainable" in reality. It seems religions knew Zizek's 3 main points of happiness for a long time.
"It seems religions knew Zizek's 3 main points of happiness for a long time." Exactly. Its amazing how we often consider those in the past as stupid or unknowing. It's obvious after studying various scriptures that people from thousands of years ago worked this out. Then the enlightenment came along... and all that did was help us forget what they learned...
@@anthonybrett Everything seems obvious in the retrospect, yet are complete mystery until solved. People of the past weren't stupid. Its just that u can onnect the dot only when you look back from far ahead.
We solve the questions ad infinitum. What does that make us? We will never get the answers to our questions but maybe refine our questions. In fact the answer maybe simple enough to be unexplainable in language.
What I wonder is why no one ever suggests the idea that an omnipotent omniscient God, that has the ability to reshape reality as we know it, wouldn't just remove the fact that suffering gives happiness it's value? You can't imagine it because humans do not experience reality this way, but for God is should no doubt be possible.
i believe as a philosopher, zizek himself should be enlightened by the majesty of divine justice. no more grey areas, only truth. no more hypotheticals, only destined outcomes. its philosophical nirvana regardless of which hemisphere he ends up in
I will play the harp on a cloud for 10.000 years. Then I will become insane being in perfect bliss for an eternity and mastering every skill. Thus like the Eldar (in Warhammer 40k) Slaanesh will be born. No living forever cant be fun.
Everything stands and falls only by comparison to its opposite. Living in eternal happiness is a terrible B O R E ! None whatsoever even could become aware of his uninterrupted happiness . Zizek's 15 min suffer-watch from heaven is hilarious 😂 .•°
I love how the very premise of heaven completely overrides the possibility of having a negative view of it, and yet people still manage to say things like this. XD
The heaven is build upon the hell, and in Rumi it says hell is like a university but for those like Hitler who do not learn in this world, like some politicians of USA Britian and arab and Persian world... Or who ever but also the walking of the prophets thorough the hell will make the fire into roses with every step...in the here after...
I feel sorry for Zizek, such an incredible mind, very perceptive but in this regard very childish to the point it's embarrassing to hear it. I would expect some actual investigation on the prime sources in this topic, meaning the bible and basically all theology concepts to really start to understand what it means the Heaven and Hell idea. It's like if Zizek don't want to give a try to understand the book that basically shape all human history, it's not that important, yet he's happy to deep in the literature of all the others ways of thinking. I really feel sorry and at the same time I have tremendous curiosity in the times we're living because of all the thoughts and philosophies who permeated the world, christianism is the most hated and the most laughable. "Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man"
I really doubt that hell would an enjoyable place to be in. Try to drink an martini inside an furnace and if you find out that it is an pleasurable experience, then, and only then, you should wish an hell as a home for eternity. Zizek is acting like a child who try's to explain a complicated idea using toys that are purchased by his parents. Be an explorer and widen your minds to be able to look at our existence, and beyond it, from an variety of different perspectives. By promoting life without responsibility Zizek is luring you into his philosophy which final goal is to cut you of from any sincere dive into religious scriptures and eternal truths. Be careful, and may peace be with you.
lmao it was a joke, and his description of hell was nuanced; he was alluding to how Christianity turned worldly pleasure into vices (gluttony, lust, etc) and interpreted hell as the embodiment of those vices. hence you have a hell where you do orgies and grill barbeques.
If you want to get Zizek's 'I WOULD PREFER NOT TO' t-shirt you can do so here:
i-would-prefer-not-to.com
That ending was very unexpectedly cute.
Yea caught me by surprise even after reading your comment lol
Slavoj's critique of Thomas Aquinas is the most fascinating perspective on Heaven and Hell that I've ever heard:
The only living philosopher who can turn hell into enjoyable experience. Love it!!
Albert camus also can do it probably
I saw a Zizek's video on TH-cam that had the comment section turned off. I was deeply offended.
It was the first ology thats why it’s called the-ology 😌
In france we don’t drink coffee out-side like zizek on the contrary we have thé au logis (tea at home fyi) that would be coherent with its greatest philosopher of god Blaise Pascal…
Gold
I am irretrievably in love with slavoj and everything he says
Hell is like a bad LSD trip at a Grateful Dead concert.
Word
Dan Harmon's getting there.
The joke is close to exact with Kierkegaard's conception of "double-vision" just re-framed through Aquinas's position, which is in fullness is Christianity's ethics, being that all pleasures is but vanity and death, whereas suffering is in actuality life. Zizek's conclusion is obviously Christian in rationality.
you, and he would say so himself : he is a christian atheist
Mankind knew that they cannot change society, but instead of reflecting on themselves, they blamed the beasts
I agree with most of what Slavoj says about happiness when related to love, knowledge and so on and so on, the thing is that he is assuming a particular definition of happiness. I happiness was to be defined as something that can include suffering because of love, the entire premise would be the same, but changing a couple of words.
"and so on and so on" - You just had to, didn't you?
Coming from a Happiness video of Zizek, I realize that Heaven is just the "ideal world" that's "not very different from ours" yet is "totally unattainable" in reality. It seems religions knew Zizek's 3 main points of happiness for a long time.
"It seems religions knew Zizek's 3 main points of happiness for a long time."
Exactly. Its amazing how we often consider those in the past as stupid or unknowing. It's obvious after studying various scriptures that people from thousands of years ago worked this out. Then the enlightenment came along... and all that did was help us forget what they learned...
@@anthonybrett Everything seems obvious in the retrospect, yet are complete mystery until solved. People of the past weren't stupid. Its just that u can onnect the dot only when you look back from far ahead.
Mystical explanations have always been profound, in fact they are not even superficial. - Friedrich Nietzsche
We solve the questions ad infinitum. What does that make us? We will never get the answers to our questions but maybe refine our questions. In fact the answer maybe simple enough to be unexplainable in language.
What I wonder is why no one ever suggests the idea that an omnipotent omniscient God, that has the ability to reshape reality as we know it, wouldn't just remove the fact that suffering gives happiness it's value? You can't imagine it because humans do not experience reality this way, but for God is should no doubt be possible.
Heaven is a party that never ends and you have to stay until the end.
"Alright we like to keep things informal as well as infernal"
I hope Rowan Atkinson will be there to welcome me.
or you can call him toby, if you like
I thought I already knew the difference between them. They're like, very different
i believe as a philosopher, zizek himself should be enlightened by the majesty of divine justice. no more grey areas, only truth. no more hypotheticals, only destined outcomes. its philosophical nirvana
regardless of which hemisphere he ends up in
I like listening to self-help gurus. They spout black and white absolute truths and destined outcomes left and right, it's great
@@tomisaacson2762 you should try divine justice, you might like it
"Holy Schadenfreude Batman" - Robin
so we do go to "heaven" after death - because being dead is like being in heaven
I will play the harp on a cloud for 10.000 years.
Then I will become insane being in perfect bliss for an eternity and mastering every skill. Thus like the Eldar (in Warhammer 40k) Slaanesh will be born.
No living forever cant be fun.
Wrong premise from the very beginning, bruh.
@@Dross1991a Would you rather have Nurgle or Khorne instead of Slaanesh?
No CC on this one
He is amazing
This man be thinkin
"I hate life" - Slavoj Zizek
That's my private idea and he then goes on and on and so on and so on!
The ending!!!
Wow. Heaven is also horrible. We all kind of suspected this.....but the purility is shocking 😐. Think I'll go and watch "the chosen".
Heaven is nice, but all my friends are in hell.
Everything stands and falls only by comparison to its opposite.
Living in eternal happiness is a terrible B O R E !
None whatsoever even could become aware of his uninterrupted happiness .
Zizek's 15 min suffer-watch from heaven is hilarious 😂 .•°
I love how the very premise of heaven completely overrides the possibility of having a negative view of it, and yet people still manage to say things like this. XD
@@Dross1991a we are discussing under a false assumption anyhow.
There is no heaven other than in people's childish imagination .•°
@@farrider3339 Funny how you guys keep trying to elaborate on it then, huh? :3
@@Dross1991a yes , also funny how some guys fail to follow the path down the rabbit hole*.
Remember - none whatsoever has to stay there* ;)°
@@farrider3339 "No one has to remain a Christian." - Some furry who worships Bill Nye and listens to Tool
The heaven is build upon the hell, and in Rumi it says hell is like a university but for those like Hitler who do not learn in this world, like some politicians of USA Britian and arab and Persian world... Or who ever but also the walking of the prophets thorough the hell will make the fire into roses with every step...in the here after...
I feel sorry for Zizek, such an incredible mind, very perceptive but in this regard very childish to the point it's embarrassing to hear it. I would expect some actual investigation on the prime sources in this topic, meaning the bible and basically all theology concepts to really start to understand what it means the Heaven and Hell idea. It's like if Zizek don't want to give a try to understand the book that basically shape all human history, it's not that important, yet he's happy to deep in the literature of all the others ways of thinking. I really feel sorry and at the same time I have tremendous curiosity in the times we're living because of all the thoughts and philosophies who permeated the world, christianism is the most hated and the most laughable.
"Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man"
The difference between Heaven and Hell ... and Black Sabbath
Heaven is the joy of seeing hell burning in the lake of fire. Without hell burning in the lake of fire there is no heaven
If the devil runs he’ll why would’ve let the evil people have a ball?
Lol this is nothing original xD south park did it first
Well, it´s just Aquinas' ideas... we don´t have a clue about heaven and hell
I really doubt that hell would an enjoyable place to be in. Try to drink an martini inside an furnace and if you find out that it is an pleasurable experience, then, and only then, you should wish an hell as a home for eternity. Zizek is acting like a child who try's to explain a complicated idea using toys that are purchased by his parents. Be an explorer and widen your minds to be able to look at our existence, and beyond it, from an variety of different perspectives. By promoting life without responsibility Zizek is luring you into his philosophy which final goal is to cut you of from any sincere dive into religious scriptures and eternal truths. Be careful, and may peace be with you.
Lmao take your own advice
@@parallaxcrafttale You got me. Congratulations! You can now go to bead peacefully. Good night.
@@Rustem6689 yeah try not to get stuck in a thought loop
@@parallaxcrafttale Got me again. Wow, you got a be a very smart person: can't go to bed without a combo hit - "in your face". Neat.
lmao it was a joke, and his description of hell was nuanced; he was alluding to how Christianity turned worldly pleasure into vices (gluttony, lust, etc) and interpreted hell as the embodiment of those vices. hence you have a hell where you do orgies and grill barbeques.
What utter gibberish! Yet, if he continues along his current path he may just get exactly that for which he muses.
Spoken like a true hedonist.
k.