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The Vision Pro is not getting cancelled. As a Vision Pro owner I can say this is the future. I use this thing several times a week for my work often several times a day and it is a massive productivity boost. Anyone saying it is being cancelled is just butt hurt that they couldn’t afford one. The next model should be cheaper though so I wish for more people to be able to own one.
it just genuinely doesnt have that many use cases rn besides being able to give you a big display for ur mac, which you can do by buying a monitor for a fraction of the price😂😂
@givingflopera problem is that I am never at home to use my tri-monitor setup. This Vision Pro is the only device on the market that does a good job of solving the problem of having a high resolution portable monitor that you can take anywhere with you. The Quest headsets just don't even come close in quality to the Vision Pro.
It’s not about that people saying it’s canceled because they are butt hurt that they can’t afford it. I can afford one, but I’m not getting one as of right now because I can’t find any use of it. Until I see this device to be useful in my everyday task, then I will most definitely buy one. But as of right now, I’ll pass.
@@chumcool no one was berated. I just had to correct the wild claims that it was somehow canceled. The Vision Pro gets almost as much hate as the Cybertruck from a small pool of loud people that have no experience with it when both are amazing but come at the price of something that is amazing.
@@TheeMr72k I tried on in the store 2 weeks ago. I too didn’t believe the price tag was not worth it. I lucked out and picked one up for 1.8k on eBay a few days later. The more I use it I understand the price point more and more.
done the demo twice. and it is amazing. have a friend locally who i chat with every week and occasionally see IRL (he streams on twitch very regularly), and he uses it for work every single day to this day
what i would like out of a Vision Pro 2: $3,000 lighter/more comfortable design longer battery life M4/M5 SoC R2 processor Thunderbolt 5 support Sony PSVR 2 controller support Dark horse feature: can connect directly to PS5/PS5 Pro
3000 dollars and battery lasts 10 hours and they are using silicon carbon cells, which they wont. should be 1500 euros and 5 hours of battery life at least it would be balanced.
I think it is worth the $4000 I spent on it and I agree that it needs the above things but I think it definitely needs more to justify it's price tag in the next model. It needs everything that makes a desktop OS independent. I really need a terminal with a community driven package manager to extend functionality.
I am working on it, I work with a production company in Europe and we make immersive videos. People love it if it, and it's very difficult to make and not accessible to the average joe like traditional video.With Immersive Video the business can become profitable again.
I bought one and was for the most part very satisfied. However, I returned it mainly due to price and comfort. I’m eagerly awaiting Vision Pro 2, but they have to address weight and pressure on the front!
I bought one but was also one of the people that returned it. I used it a lot in the first week then hardly touched it in the second week. I tried Mac mirroring but I could only manage that for around 2 hours. I don’t think that Mac mirroring is better than a good screen. The games are ok but too few. Comparing it to my PSVR, and the Meta Quest, it’s a lot of money for not a lot of value. I look forward to seeing what Apple does with Vision Pro in the future.
Tried the demo a second time after the Vision OS 2 update. They now let you preview you own spatial content. The 2D to 3D conversion is awesome, and even 15 Pro Max footage looks almost lifelike. The Submerged preview and Weekend music video was also really good. The only thing that held me back was price, and incomplete Apple apps that are just iPad apps. I'm definitely interested in Gen 2 and Vision OS 3. To anyone who hasn't tried or hasn't demoed since launch, you should definitely set up an appointment at a nearby Apple Store if you can. Worth it.
I bought it on launch and it's the only product I remember that a year later still feels amazing to use. VR is just of limited use; strapping a thing to your head is always a limiting factor. But as a product, and experience, it's still mind blowing.
I don’t have one yet, but I could see myself watching Star Trek on a large screen from the moon or playing Halo on a large screen while TH-cam is open on a separate screen while simultaneously doing FaceTime with a friend🤩. I presume I can do all of that.
Coming from an AVP owner myself, I think $500 MAX is what this should cost. There’s no real use case for the everyday person other than watching movies. I regret getting mine and not returning it.
It’s been the best device I’ve owned. Getting close to a year in and I’m still daily just blown away the experiences I can get with it. Really hoping if they can bring the price down it’s not at the cost of what really makes it so special. There are already cheaper models on the market that didn’t move the needle much…. Not by Apple though
I bought it on launch day. Although I don't use it for productivity, there is nothing better for entertainment. For me, it's well worth the price for entertainment alone. After getting used to it, I can use it for a very long hours. Not a fan of eye tracking and the battery though.I can't live without AVP!
it has virtually no games and no apps, issues connecting to windows file sharing while don't have any data port. If you're thinking about replacing 4 monitors with this, it will not work well since your eyes will get very tired compared to regular monitors. My advise as a vision pro owner is: if you got the money, donate to charity. I stopped buying anything apple after the vision pro, and I'm neck deep in apple's eco cycle.
hank you for this fantastic video! Let me be clear: as of December 2024, the Apple Vision Pro is the best VR/MX headset on the market. I had the opportunity to test all the latest VR HMDs this month, and the Vision Pro stands in a league of its own. Its unmatched image quality, refresh rate, stability of 3D AR objects, and overall reality perception make it a truly revolutionary innovation. With over 34 years of experience in 3D & Simulation, I’ve never seen anything that comes close to its level of realism, display quality, and performance. Even headsets costing many times more fall far behind in terms of quality and capabilities. On top of that, the seamless integration into the Apple ecosystem takes the user experience to a whole new level. Simply extraordinary.
I think it was a success based on what they set out to do. They couldn’t keep it in the lab forever and had to release it to the public so they would have a foundation to build upon. Now they’re doing that It’s sold well, has had some great updates for only the first year and I’m excited to see where this product is going. What’s it gonna look like in 5 years?
Usually haven’t been a fan of the metaverse but my one vr wish is for learning and creating a digital academy/university. So many possibilities for immersive online learning that haven’t come together fully yet. AI is such a gamechanger for this too. My dream is going from an epic social environment styled like an Ancient Greek temple, etc. and then transporting to an immersive medieval world to explore. Any topic or question you can imagine can be explored with AI and you could even have npc’s or historical characters lecturing you. Just so much you could do to enchant and personalize online learning.
AI is the killer app for Vision Pro, it’s just a really nice virtual projector without it at the core of everything. The wonders of an immersive UI visualizing the AI workflow is the breakthru and the ultimate goal for personal computing that they’ve been working towards since the iPhone.
For me the vision pro is a success and technology achievement. It has issues no doubt (weight, low games /app, cost etc.) but it jumped Meta with its first release. OS 2 is cool and can't wait for Vision Pro 2 and OS 3....
The PRO is not a priopty . That is for developers always has been . The glasses already have been awarded a patent : Inventor Johnny Ive, of course they are tooling to start producing them. The Prod is specifically so we can build put the light version of Vison OS App store. An update to the Pro headset will come after the glasses.
It still won’t be a mass market item at $2,000 USD or $2,800 CAD. There aren’t many killer apps for it either; it’s just nice to play with once in a while. Maybe in a few more years when costs come down more, and killer apps, content, and games are made for it, it’ll be worthwhile. Get it down to the price of an iPad, and it’ll see mass adoption. Until then it’ll be a niche product.
Well it has great displays and cameras, but it's just too heavy for prolonged use. The battery life doesn't help either and it really needs an internal battery so you can hot-swap the external one. If you compare it to it's closest rival (the Meta Quest 3) it suddenly doesn't have that much to offer in comparison. The Quest is lighter even though it has an integrated battery, it comes with controllers enabling much more user scenarios including gaming and it offers many third party software and hardware solutions. While the AVP is better for productivity (mostly just for adding virtual screens to a MacBook though) and multimedia due to it's much better screens and processing power, it doesn't offer much beyond that right now. And if you look at the price with this in mind, then it's hard to justify the 7x higher price. If they want to make an AVP2 a success, they will need to integrate at least a small battery, keep the AVP displays, reduce the processing power if they need, get rid of the outside display and glass, add at least some form of controllers (maybe just rings with an option for Quest like controllers), reduce the weight and open it up to be used together with systems outside of the Apple ecosystem (it doesn't help that you cannot link it to your Win11 machine). That and bring the price down by at least 1500 dollars.
If you haven't perfected the first version I don't see the point in releasing a second version that is cheaper, because making it cheaper is not going to make it better.
I am still very bored with my AVP. There is like 1 game that is fun (synthrider). Other than that, it’s just a tv on my head. I end up taking it off to finish watching what I was on my actual TV. I did the update for the Widescreen and it’s really not that great. Its so heavy to turn my head from one side to the other and for what use will the average person need a wide screen? It’s not like I can play Diablo or other games because is laggy. And it really is annoying to have to look down to try and find my keyboard. I feel like I’m trying to find my keyboard while wearing swim goggles and I’m constantly accidentally clicking things because it thinks I’m tapping my fingers together when I’m just resting my hands on my lap. I regret never returning this when I had the chance. I have been an Apple fanboy since 2005 but now I will never preorder a new/1st gen product from Apple ever again. If a new one comes out, I wouldn’t buy it.
Only at 9:50 in the video: My thoughts now....with a new (replacement) tablet being considered...I'm not far from moving to this, if it could somehow game like a tablet, and more.
I think that for a vision headset to really get mass adoption it will need to be priced in line with other headsets of course it can be a bit more as most Apple products are relative to competitive products. I think in the near term if Apple can find a compelling business app that would support the near term R&D cost it would help fund the future of this product line. I haven’t had a chance to try it but I do have a Meta Quest 3 and my personal problem with VR headsets is the weight. For me a much lighter headset would make a huge improvement to the VR headsets in general. I think the real future of this technology is the AR glasses. That to me seems like a product that could gain mass adoption but that would need to have all day battery life so people could wear them all day.
Any reduction in the quality of the display would be a huge mistake. The primary differentiator vs. Quest and Sony is the high-rez display. For me, it would be a deal killer. (And yes, I bought and love the AVP)
They shouldn’t reduce the resolution at all, that’s a deal breaker. $2k is a non starter if Apple wants to get this device in tv hands of a massive number of people, competitors in this space will gain more customers if new iterations of the AVP are priced at $2k.
If there were a cheaper apple vision it would be called the apple version se because all the “cheaper”products are labeled se like the iPhone SE or the Apple Watch se
I don’t see it being that cheap, this is Apple we are talking about. The base model Vision Pro was $4000 after tax. At best the base Vision Pro 2 would be $3200 if not higher than the original.
The Vision Pro was never going to be a commercial success in this first iteration. Same as all other Apple products when they were first released, were expensive, had high end materials and pushed tech - the iPhone is a great example of this; very expensive, limited use and not for the mass market. it wasn’t till the iPhone 3G till it started to gain traction. The same with the AVP. Gen 3, will be when it’s likely to gain traction.
There are no vision os apps that would currently make me want to rush out and buy a vision pro headset, though the wide screen Mac OS support is a step in the right direction. For the moment, I would rather spend a seventh of the vision pro cost on a Meta Quest 3 VR headset, even though I accept vision pro is technically superior. The vision pro cost Vs benefit equation just doesn't balance out for me, especially if there may be future Apple vision os headsets in the pipeline.
It’s funny when you think about it too because you should be extra careful believing rumors when most of these articles are Clickbait looking for people to hate click on
Nearly everybody I’ve heard from that has one, podcasters and all, never use the device. They need way more developers creating apps. Also, dropping the price from $3500 down to $3000 won’t improve the sales when you can buy the Oculus for $300 to $500…and they are getting better and better. Also, the new XREAL glasses offer just as good of a cinema experience for the $300 to $500 range. It just doesn’t make any sense. Apple’s premium price for a product that is WAY behind in usability shows how Apple has lost touch with a reality they once had. Apple is so damn frustrating. Their line of other products are just good enough not to leave. I’ve been tempted so many times.
The number of times you’ve mentioned the word ‘failure’ here suggests to me that you’re just indulging in “Damnation with faint praise”… for a popular site whose name includes the brand, this has me scratching my head in puzzlement.
Waaaaaaay too expensive in Canada, for a non-essential device. Even at $2,000 U.S. it would be close to 3K in Canada after tax. Not going to happen. Do all the mods mentioned and get rid of the eyes on the front thing. Blue Tooth pair it with a Mac to do ALL the processing. Then it might happen.
I wanted to get it so bad, but I can’t think of any good practical uses for it. The price is irrelevant, as we are pretty well off. It just seems so gimmicky and I think we’d get bored pretty quick. If I could play games on the MacBook Pro, Xbox, PS, or use Netflix or other streaming apps and not safari, I would own two of them. It would be cool to show off to company, but other than that, it would just collect dust.
The lower-than-anticipated sales figures for the AVP indicate that the market may not be ready for it just yet. However, it would be overly harsh to label it as a "failure".
Ultimately it comes down to production cost vs sales. If the sales of AVP1 have been poor, far below acceptable profit margin, there's no reason to think a cheaper model will save the Vision Pro. If version 2 is half the price that means Apple have to sell twice as many Pros to make the same amount they made with version 1. It's a dumb strategy. If they made the version 2 under 1000 dollars with 6 to 8 hour battery life and with every app available to download and use... maybe it could do okay but no VR system has ever had mainstream success. All niche products so sales always hit a profit ceiling. It's never going to be as successful as the radio, tv, video cassette recorder, Walkman, CD, DVD, cell phone, smart cell phone. These products had universal appeal. Virtual reality will never have universal appeal.
If it was a tenth of the price and weighed a quarter of the current one I’d still not be remotely interested. Unless you’ve a clear use for it, I’d stay away. Wake me up when they are sunglass sized, until then, I’ll be passing. The current ridiculous form factor is a straight no from me.
What we're they thinking putting on a M2 processor, when M3 should've been used. For 3500 dollars and 4k euros this device feels really cheap. Should've been full glass, steel or even titanium, m3 processor, bigger battery included and it should've been still cheaper. Rather buy a Huawei Triple fold device, that thing lasts 6 hours compared to 2 hours.
I think the Apple Vision Pro is a critical success and very underrated. It was never expected to be a big seller at this price range. I’m looking forward to a lighter product, maybe ditching EyeSight, with the M5 and R2 chips, possibly at a $500 discount, until we eventually get the low cost, plastic product. VisionOS, especially at 2.1 has made some great strides.
watch it apple release this new *cheaper* at 8000... I'm not joking, and it would be funny. for the love of God... this is not even close to the original iPhone
This is the only "new" product range under Tim Cook. That is how bad he is / incompetent including burning 50+ billion on Project Titan. Apple was offered to buy Tesla for 50 billion in 2018 but Tim refused since Musk would have been Apple's CEO. Apple today is Microsoft of the 2000. Zero innovation but so big that all normies use it in the USA. Outside the USA is another story. The computer hardware is way ahead. I compared my M3 Ultra where the CPUs draws under 20 watts under full load to a modern AMD/Intel where just the AIO cooler draws 30 watts (and AMD250 watts / Intel 350 watts under full load). MSFT never produced or did a good product in history and still is amongst the largest companies in the world. It is sad how Tim has violated Steve's legacy. The turning point for Apple was in 2018 when BlackRock took a board seat. The innovation since then is a 1mm larger iPhone and a 100-dollar price increase. The only thing that saves Apple its brand and that China is banned from selling its best phones outside China. I have an iPhone 16 Pro Max. First time I wanted a Chinese phone since their hardware is 3-5 years ahead of Apple.Especially with Qualcomm Elite 4 for the first time, on par with Apple A SoC.
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The Vision Pro is not getting cancelled. As a Vision Pro owner I can say this is the future. I use this thing several times a week for my work often several times a day and it is a massive productivity boost. Anyone saying it is being cancelled is just butt hurt that they couldn’t afford one. The next model should be cheaper though so I wish for more people to be able to own one.
it just genuinely doesnt have that many use cases rn besides being able to give you a big display for ur mac, which you can do by buying a monitor for a fraction of the price😂😂
@givingflopera problem is that I am never at home to use my tri-monitor setup. This Vision Pro is the only device on the market that does a good job of solving the problem of having a high resolution portable monitor that you can take anywhere with you. The Quest headsets just don't even come close in quality to the Vision Pro.
It’s not about that people saying it’s canceled because they are butt hurt that they can’t afford it. I can afford one, but I’m not getting one as of right now because I can’t find any use of it. Until I see this device to be useful in my everyday task, then I will most definitely buy one. But as of right now, I’ll pass.
It’s pretty telling when most everybody who own a Vision Pro are constantly berating those who don’t about being poor…
@@chumcool no one was berated. I just had to correct the wild claims that it was somehow canceled. The Vision Pro gets almost as much hate as the Cybertruck from a small pool of loud people that have no experience with it when both are amazing but come at the price of something that is amazing.
I did try it in-store and was blown away. And I have only one working eye! Get that price waaaaaaaay down Apple and you’ve got a new customer.
Exactly, i did the tour thing at the store and it was soo cool. But not worth the price tag
@@TheeMr72k I tried on in the store 2 weeks ago. I too didn’t believe the price tag was not worth it. I lucked out and picked one up for 1.8k on eBay a few days later. The more I use it I understand the price point more and more.
I might just be stupid but I assumed vr/ar headsets only worked if you have 2 functioning eyes?
@@GJB21 No I have the vision pro from day one with only sight in one eye and it works great!
@@torinparker6790 good to hear!!
done the demo twice. and it is amazing. have a friend locally who i chat with every week and occasionally see IRL (he streams on twitch very regularly), and he uses it for work every single day to this day
what i would like out of a Vision Pro 2:
$3,000
lighter/more comfortable design
longer battery life
M4/M5 SoC
R2 processor
Thunderbolt 5 support
Sony PSVR 2 controller support
Dark horse feature: can connect directly to PS5/PS5 Pro
3000 dollars and battery lasts 10 hours and they are using silicon carbon cells, which they wont. should be 1500 euros and 5 hours of battery life at least it would be balanced.
I don’t know if the Apple Vision Pro will get cheaper at least anytime soon. Especially because they are gonna make Apple vision.
Under 2000 is the best price
I think it is worth the $4000 I spent on it and I agree that it needs the above things but I think it definitely needs more to justify it's price tag in the next model. It needs everything that makes a desktop OS independent. I really need a terminal with a community driven package manager to extend functionality.
@@awzsdrcfgybhjimklp well if you believe it is worth the 4k, well congratz I just found a dumbass.
boosted performance for what? the same tired apps?
There’s so much potential but not enough content available, I’d love to see more developers working on AR content
Agree.
I am working on it, I work with a production company in Europe and we make immersive videos. People love it if it, and it's very difficult to make and not accessible to the average joe like traditional video.With Immersive Video the business can become profitable again.
@@peterhoffman4129what’s the name/website of your company? Would love to check out your work
I love mine.
I bought one and was for the most part very satisfied. However, I returned it mainly due to price and comfort. I’m eagerly awaiting Vision Pro 2, but they have to address weight and pressure on the front!
I bought one but was also one of the people that returned it.
I used it a lot in the first week then hardly touched it in the second week. I tried Mac mirroring but I could only manage that for around 2 hours. I don’t think that Mac mirroring is better than a good screen.
The games are ok but too few.
Comparing it to my PSVR, and the Meta Quest, it’s a lot of money for not a lot of value.
I look forward to seeing what Apple does with Vision Pro in the future.
Tried the demo a second time after the Vision OS 2 update. They now let you preview you own spatial content. The 2D to 3D conversion is awesome, and even 15 Pro Max footage looks almost lifelike. The Submerged preview and Weekend music video was also really good. The only thing that held me back was price, and incomplete Apple apps that are just iPad apps. I'm definitely interested in Gen 2 and Vision OS 3. To anyone who hasn't tried or hasn't demoed since launch, you should definitely set up an appointment at a nearby Apple Store if you can. Worth it.
Keep it going🔥
Love the content
I bought it on launch and it's the only product I remember that a year later still feels amazing to use. VR is just of limited use; strapping a thing to your head is always a limiting factor. But as a product, and experience, it's still mind blowing.
I don’t have one yet, but I could see myself watching Star Trek on a large screen from the moon or playing Halo on a large screen while TH-cam is open on a separate screen while simultaneously doing FaceTime with a friend🤩. I presume I can do all of that.
$2000 is still too much $1500 is more like it
I think that will be a target for a baseline vision air. The display tech alone keeps the Vision Pro from that price point right now.
Coming from an AVP owner myself, I think $500 MAX is what this should cost. There’s no real use case for the everyday person other than watching movies. I regret getting mine and not returning it.
@@AustinWyattPetersen are you interested in selling it? If so I’d be interested depending on how much you’re asking for it
It’s been the best device I’ve owned. Getting close to a year in and I’m still daily just blown away the experiences I can get with it. Really hoping if they can bring the price down it’s not at the cost of what really makes it so special. There are already cheaper models on the market that didn’t move the needle much…. Not by Apple though
Waste of money
I love my vision pro and I use it daily mainly for gaming.
I bought it on launch day. Although I don't use it for productivity, there is nothing better for entertainment. For me, it's well worth the price for entertainment alone. After getting used to it, I can use it for a very long hours. Not a fan of eye tracking and the battery though.I can't live without AVP!
it has virtually no games and no apps, issues connecting to windows file sharing while don't have any data port. If you're thinking about replacing 4 monitors with this, it will not work well since your eyes will get very tired compared to regular monitors. My advise as a vision pro owner is: if you got the money, donate to charity. I stopped buying anything apple after the vision pro, and I'm neck deep in apple's eco cycle.
Love it! Also love spacial pics and video.
I love my apple vision pro. I feel very priviledged to be able to use it every day.
hank you for this fantastic video! Let me be clear: as of December 2024, the Apple Vision Pro is the best VR/MX headset on the market. I had the opportunity to test all the latest VR HMDs this month, and the Vision Pro stands in a league of its own. Its unmatched image quality, refresh rate, stability of 3D AR objects, and overall reality perception make it a truly revolutionary innovation.
With over 34 years of experience in 3D & Simulation, I’ve never seen anything that comes close to its level of realism, display quality, and performance. Even headsets costing many times more fall far behind in terms of quality and capabilities. On top of that, the seamless integration into the Apple ecosystem takes the user experience to a whole new level. Simply extraordinary.
I think it was a success based on what they set out to do. They couldn’t keep it in the lab forever and had to release it to the public so they would have a foundation to build upon. Now they’re doing that
It’s sold well, has had some great updates for only the first year and I’m excited to see where this product is going. What’s it gonna look like in 5 years?
Usually haven’t been a fan of the metaverse but my one vr wish is for learning and creating a digital academy/university. So many possibilities for immersive online learning that haven’t come together fully yet. AI is such a gamechanger for this too. My dream is going from an epic social environment styled like an Ancient Greek temple, etc. and then transporting to an immersive medieval world to explore. Any topic or question you can imagine can be explored with AI and you could even have npc’s or historical characters lecturing you. Just so much you could do to enchant and personalize online learning.
AI is the killer app for Vision Pro, it’s just a really nice virtual projector without it at the core of everything. The wonders of an immersive UI visualizing the AI workflow is the breakthru and the ultimate goal for personal computing that they’ve been working towards since the iPhone.
For me the vision pro is a success and technology achievement. It has issues no doubt (weight, low games /app, cost etc.) but it jumped Meta with its first release. OS 2 is cool and can't wait for Vision Pro 2 and OS 3....
I own one and it’s amazing! My favorite Apple product. Got rid of my display cause of it
I see them making a none pro model
The PRO is not a priopty . That is for developers always has been . The glasses already have been awarded a patent : Inventor Johnny Ive, of course they are tooling to start producing them. The Prod is specifically so we can build put the light version of Vison OS App store. An update to the Pro headset will come after the glasses.
When you can get technology like this out and being sold it’s a success
First comes the sponsor then comes a contrived video that force fits the sponsor
It still won’t be a mass market item at $2,000 USD or $2,800 CAD. There aren’t many killer apps for it either; it’s just nice to play with once in a while. Maybe in a few more years when costs come down more, and killer apps, content, and games are made for it, it’ll be worthwhile. Get it down to the price of an iPad, and it’ll see mass adoption. Until then it’ll be a niche product.
It needs to be less heavy and the batter doesn’t need to be on it, computing with a remote device and that stupid glass front can go.
Well it has great displays and cameras, but it's just too heavy for prolonged use. The battery life doesn't help either and it really needs an internal battery so you can hot-swap the external one. If you compare it to it's closest rival (the Meta Quest 3) it suddenly doesn't have that much to offer in comparison. The Quest is lighter even though it has an integrated battery, it comes with controllers enabling much more user scenarios including gaming and it offers many third party software and hardware solutions. While the AVP is better for productivity (mostly just for adding virtual screens to a MacBook though) and multimedia due to it's much better screens and processing power, it doesn't offer much beyond that right now. And if you look at the price with this in mind, then it's hard to justify the 7x higher price.
If they want to make an AVP2 a success, they will need to integrate at least a small battery, keep the AVP displays, reduce the processing power if they need, get rid of the outside display and glass, add at least some form of controllers (maybe just rings with an option for Quest like controllers), reduce the weight and open it up to be used together with systems outside of the Apple ecosystem (it doesn't help that you cannot link it to your Win11 machine). That and bring the price down by at least 1500 dollars.
Apple better hurry up and come out with a cheaper Apple Vision because this expensive device is causing customers to buy Meta Quest 3 Headsets..
Great vid but 720P, really? 🤔 😊
Hmm. I uploaded at 4K. I have no idea what happened! I'm only seeing 720P as well..
If you haven't perfected the first version I don't see the point in releasing a second version that is cheaper, because making it cheaper is not going to make it better.
I am still very bored with my AVP. There is like 1 game that is fun (synthrider). Other than that, it’s just a tv on my head. I end up taking it off to finish watching what I was on my actual TV. I did the update for the Widescreen and it’s really not that great. Its so heavy to turn my head from one side to the other and for what use will the average person need a wide screen? It’s not like I can play Diablo or other games because is laggy. And it really is annoying to have to look down to try and find my keyboard. I feel like I’m trying to find my keyboard while wearing swim goggles and I’m constantly accidentally clicking things because it thinks I’m tapping my fingers together when I’m just resting my hands on my lap. I regret never returning this when I had the chance. I have been an Apple fanboy since 2005 but now I will never preorder a new/1st gen product from Apple ever again. If a new one comes out, I wouldn’t buy it.
Only at 9:50 in the video: My thoughts now....with a new (replacement) tablet being considered...I'm not far from moving to this, if it could somehow game like a tablet, and more.
Thank you miss this one.
I think that for a vision headset to really get mass adoption it will need to be priced in line with other headsets of course it can be a bit more as most Apple products are relative to competitive products. I think in the near term if Apple can find a compelling business app that would support the near term R&D cost it would help fund the future of this product line. I haven’t had a chance to try it but I do have a Meta Quest 3 and my personal problem with VR headsets is the weight. For me a much lighter headset would make a huge improvement to the VR headsets in general. I think the real future of this technology is the AR glasses. That to me seems like a product that could gain mass adoption but that would need to have all day battery life so people could wear them all day.
Any reduction in the quality of the display would be a huge mistake. The primary differentiator vs. Quest and Sony is the high-rez display. For me, it would be a deal killer. (And yes, I bought and love the AVP)
They shouldn’t reduce the resolution at all, that’s a deal breaker. $2k is a non starter if Apple wants to get this device in tv hands of a massive number of people, competitors in this space will gain more customers if new iterations of the AVP are priced at $2k.
Tells us how great the Vision Pro is. Then tells us we need a third party accessory to make it comfortable to wear. 🤔
If there were a cheaper apple vision it would be called the apple version se because all the “cheaper”products are labeled se like the iPhone SE or the Apple Watch se
Apple Vision Pro 2 - $2,199 (512 GB), $2,349 (1 TB), $2,549 (2 TB)
8K Display
24GB RAM
M5 Pro Chip
Apple Vision Air - $699 (128 GB), $949 (512 GB)
4K Display
12GB RAM
M3 Chip
I don’t see it being that cheap, this is Apple we are talking about. The base model Vision Pro was $4000 after tax. At best the base Vision Pro 2 would be $3200 if not higher than the original.
Two different connotations to those titles/captions.
The Vision Pro was never going to be a commercial success in this first iteration. Same as all other Apple products when they were first released, were expensive, had high end materials and pushed tech - the iPhone is a great example of this; very expensive, limited use and not for the mass market. it wasn’t till the iPhone 3G till it started to gain traction. The same with the AVP. Gen 3, will be when it’s likely to gain traction.
I can split $2000 cost with boyfriend. That’s more affordable.
Ok first date idea is the Apple store
Cancel?????
For 2025, I'm getting one!🥰
The article you are citing doesnt say it sold 400k, but rather says it couldnt even reach 400k
There are no vision os apps that would currently make me want to rush out and buy a vision pro headset, though the wide screen Mac OS support is a step in the right direction. For the moment, I would rather spend a seventh of the vision pro cost on a Meta Quest 3 VR headset, even though I accept vision pro is technically superior. The vision pro cost Vs benefit equation just doesn't balance out for me, especially if there may be future Apple vision os headsets in the pipeline.
You believed it was cancelled based on nonsense rumors? You shouldn't be in the rumor business
It’s funny when you think about it too because you should be extra careful believing rumors when most of these articles are Clickbait looking for people to hate click on
Nearly everybody I’ve heard from that has one, podcasters and all, never use the device. They need way more developers creating apps. Also, dropping the price from $3500 down to $3000 won’t improve the sales when you can buy the Oculus for $300 to $500…and they are getting better and better. Also, the new XREAL glasses offer just as good of a cinema experience for the $300 to $500 range. It just doesn’t make any sense. Apple’s premium price for a product that is WAY behind in usability shows how Apple has lost touch with a reality they once had. Apple is so damn frustrating. Their line of other products are just good enough not to leave. I’ve been tempted so many times.
They got the pricing wrong.
I will get a pro 2 or 3 even if it’s $3,500. Just waiting on more apps and the OS to get a bit more worked out
If the display and processing is downgraded to get a lower cost, I am out.
The number of times you’ve mentioned the word ‘failure’ here suggests to me that you’re just indulging in “Damnation with faint praise”… for a popular site whose name includes the brand, this has me scratching my head in puzzlement.
There are worse things to whine about.
Waaaaaaay too expensive in Canada, for a non-essential device. Even at $2,000 U.S. it would be close to 3K in Canada after tax. Not going to happen. Do all the mods mentioned and get rid of the eyes on the front thing. Blue Tooth pair it with a Mac to do ALL the processing. Then it might happen.
Still not available in about 190 countries.
I am all o er a lower cost Vision Pro.
I wanted to get it so bad, but I can’t think of any good practical uses for it. The price is irrelevant, as we are pretty well off. It just seems so gimmicky and I think we’d get bored pretty quick. If I could play games on the MacBook Pro, Xbox, PS, or use Netflix or other streaming apps and not safari, I would own two of them. It would be cool to show off to company, but other than that, it would just collect dust.
What if I see a new dimension?
It awaits…
The lower-than-anticipated sales figures for the AVP indicate that the market may not be ready for it just yet. However, it would be overly harsh to label it as a "failure".
Why?!!
Ultimately it comes down to production cost vs sales. If the sales of AVP1 have been poor, far below acceptable profit margin, there's no reason to think a cheaper model will save the Vision Pro. If version 2 is half the price that means Apple have to sell twice as many Pros to make the same amount they made with version 1. It's a dumb strategy. If they made the version 2 under 1000 dollars with 6 to 8 hour battery life and with every app available to download and use... maybe it could do okay but no VR system has ever had mainstream success. All niche products so sales always hit a profit ceiling. It's never going to be as successful as the radio, tv, video cassette recorder, Walkman, CD, DVD, cell phone, smart cell phone. These products had universal appeal. Virtual reality will never have universal appeal.
Nobody said any of that shit. They're developing the AVP and AV. Why do you think a $4T company would cancel after v1?
If it was a tenth of the price and weighed a quarter of the current one I’d still not be remotely interested. Unless you’ve a clear use for it, I’d stay away. Wake me up when they are sunglass sized, until then, I’ll be passing. The current ridiculous form factor is a straight no from me.
What we're they thinking putting on a M2 processor, when M3 should've been used. For 3500 dollars and 4k euros this device feels really cheap. Should've been full glass, steel or even titanium, m3 processor, bigger battery included and it should've been still cheaper. Rather buy a Huawei Triple fold device, that thing lasts 6 hours compared to 2 hours.
Well, nothing much new in this video. The only thing I can assure is that it was sponsored :-)
I agree a 1000 %! This is just the beginning. This journey’s 1% finished. 🚀
Attachments look dumb, idk how people don’t see how ridiculous they look without the original straps and guards
I think the Apple Vision Pro is a critical success and very underrated. It was never expected to be a big seller at this price range. I’m looking forward to a lighter product, maybe ditching EyeSight, with the M5 and R2 chips, possibly at a $500 discount, until we eventually get the low cost, plastic product. VisionOS, especially at 2.1 has made some great strides.
Dorry but not interested.
watch it apple release this new *cheaper* at 8000... I'm not joking, and it would be funny. for the love of God... this is not even close to the original iPhone
Yay more slop for fanboys to consume 😴
BAD MIC !!!
This is the only "new" product range under Tim Cook. That is how bad he is / incompetent including burning 50+ billion on Project Titan. Apple was offered to buy Tesla for 50 billion in 2018 but Tim refused since Musk would have been Apple's CEO. Apple today is Microsoft of the 2000. Zero innovation but so big that all normies use it in the USA. Outside the USA is another story. The computer hardware is way ahead. I compared my M3 Ultra where the CPUs draws under 20 watts under full load to a modern AMD/Intel where just the AIO cooler draws 30 watts (and AMD250 watts / Intel 350 watts under full load). MSFT never produced or did a good product in history and still is amongst the largest companies in the world. It is sad how Tim has violated Steve's legacy. The turning point for Apple was in 2018 when BlackRock took a board seat. The innovation since then is a 1mm larger iPhone and a 100-dollar price increase. The only thing that saves Apple its brand and that China is banned from selling its best phones outside China. I have an iPhone 16 Pro Max. First time I wanted a Chinese phone since their hardware is 3-5 years ahead of Apple.Especially with Qualcomm Elite 4 for the first time, on par with Apple A SoC.
I think it was a failure
I love mine.
Same friend!