This light is insane ! Went from Ac Infinity 100w light to this and figured I’d use the same amount of watts +/- (60w) only a little higher above the canopy.. I fried them 😅 Had to raise the lights probably 40 cm more… Yes, I’m a noob
If you are a Dr. Please go into detail regarding the ABSOLUTE ESSENTIAL subject of soil microbiology....people think that they are feeding their plants ..ehrn on reality you are feeding the microbes that in turn make those nutrients a sizable for plant uptake ..please detail this Dr. Thanks. 😮
The exact same thing that goes on inside our gut 😮 and most of the population doesn't realize it, they just go on living oblivious...Sounds a Little Hawaiian doesn't?
Nice video with a lot of information but I'm still a little lost with all their models. Could you tell me which one to choose to get the best result in 39"x39". FC-3000/ FC-E3000/ FC EVO 3000? And why are the prices so different between these 3 models? Thank you for your clarification
What’s better the FCE or F.C. the fixed light with Samsung and Osram only had 894 diodes or the removable bars fcE , bridgelux diodes 1194 that’s what uk choices are
Hey fella, love your reviews, you are my go to channel every time! How would 4 of these do In a 5x5? I can't use one large fitting as I'm planning on using the tent for a 2 stage perpetual flower grow and therefore need different heights. Cheers :)
i'm debating between choosing the FC-E3000 and the Medic grow mini sun 2 for a 2x4 closet grow. They are both approximately the same kind of figures in terms of price ($200) usable PPF.... photon efficiency was a little btter on the MH (231 vs 212) with Med Grow just beating the MH on benchmark yields (506 vs 491). What i had read was that both these companies were lacking in after sales service, spare parts etc.Any thoughts ? Any thoughts ?
If I'm not mistaking, Medic grow lights gets very hot. Not 100% sure, please check it. Didn't know about after sale lacking, I will check that because that's important (5 years warranty don't mean sh**t if they don't honnor it). Thanks
@@aaronjaca yeah it is a very good light well worth it, but my tent was to big for it so i got a new tent, a 100x100x200 and then we just had a really cold cappy winter so it's hard to say what you will pull from it, i got a good 6oz from it and maybe 3 more crappy oz.but this was one of the worst grows i've seen lol and just happened to be mine.just starting a new run and about to start summer so really looking forward to the next one
Does someone know how to figure out what spectrum this light has, for the ppfd Apps like tent buddy or ppfd Meter? Already messed it up once and burnt my plants :(
i got mine about 40 to 45 cm away from plant seems pritty good, at 30 cm i was justb starting to see some light stress.o thatr is in flower as only just got it at xmass and have not veged under him yet.
3x3 would do better.My FC E 4800 struggles in my 4x4.But it still does the job if dialed in.6 inches right off the top.Spread them bars out there they need to be..I'm wanting a fc e3000 for a 30x30 tent reason I chimed out..Hope it helps
Your video and website claim that the FC-E3000 includes UVA, but Mars Hydro's website states the opposite. Is this still worth it at this price point *without* UVA diodes?
Yes! It had a few UV diodes when I tested it, but more recent models have gone without. I do not think grow lights should include UV diodes - they are inefficient and there is no benefit to having them. They were more about marketing than performance and I am glad that Mars Hydro moved away from them. Grower Love!
From what i understand, the Mars Hydro stuff is quite ok, but their support is horrible. Also the app seems real bad, 1,5 Stars out of 5. After long research i personally would recommend Lumatek or SANlight or Greenception. Lumatek seems to offer the best value for money, i'd go with the 3000 pro for 1m x 1m.
Do you know your FC tests are from the old Mars FC version 1 , the updated FC design has 3 rows of diodes per bar not 2 like it your videos, the design was updated about a year ago, I have the 3 row diode updated version. Your comparing par maps to a discontinued design with a third less diodes. Anyways I'm surprised you don't know so thought i'd share. Cheers
@@PeterKKraus FCE is a budget light, I was just saying Dr Coco is comparing the par to the old original FC design which isn't a fair comparison. I have FCE & FC bars, prefer FC myself but there both good for the price.
Setting up this to replace a 4 bar t5 in veg have 2 200 watt quantum boards in there aswell 5x5 in flower I use FC-8000 not the e version 12x12 flower room only use tents for veg and cloner
Yeah it’s slightly bigger, it’s so freaking bright compared to the FCE, and the SE3000 uses Samsung diodes where the FCE uses bridgelux diodes. Don’t get me wrong for the price the FCE you can’t go wrong. But if you want to get it either the 1st time I’ll spend a lil extra and get the spider farmer
@@adriancyrus1973 yes to be honest I could’ve gotten the FC 3000 but I passed on it for the spider farmer HONESTLY SE3000 was my 1st light got the FCE3000 after. If you want UV in your light fixture go with spider farmer the FC3000 doesn’t have UV and if you’re looking for one a lil more cheaper you can’t go wrong with mars hydro
I agree with you brother, not much price difference to grab a little bit extra quality. Plus I like that you can move the light bars around on the spyder farmer.
I probably would have guessed 462. Did anyone get it exactly? I got the MF 2000 for $99 on an Amazon lightning deal not long after I bought the Hydra 3200.
While the light itself seems awesome, the smart function is lacking. Bluetooth is inconsistent and the app isn't the best. I think I'm going to have to buy a timer to regulate the light schedule instead of using the "smart" technology.
Should you ever need customer service in a bad situation I'd rather not depend on mars hydro. I'm in that position as we speak and I can tell you for sure they will never get another $ from me. I wouldn't run a free light from them without a backup on hand because if it fails your plants will die long before they even try to help. I just lost my mother's and clones to a ts3000 that is only 4 months old and am being run in circles by customer service so I am admittedly bitter. There are companies with literally the same product but give a shit about their customers.
If you go 2 x 4, the Atreum Hydra 3200 is a great value. $377 after mj coco discount. You can have it 2 feet from the canopy at 50% and be in liw veg territory.
They designed the light so it's easy to repair because the bridgelux don't last. Mars Hydro know it's easier to send separate bars when warranties start piling up. If you want longevity get the FC series with the Samsungs.
@@louche33 Come on dude. I've used the FCE and diodes burning out in the 2nd grow. Many people having the same issue. Mara hydro send you out a new bar under warranty. They know they aren't as reliable that's why the light is designed the way it is. For easy repair.
@@Visvangmeneer He's just ignorant of the advancements that've been made in the industry. I started with LEDs and gave up on them pretty quickly and then completely ignored all things LED until just a couple weeks ago when a buddy was telling me about a new LED he got. Things certainly have changed since the old pink LED days.
Just won this light on 420, loved this video!
Sick wish I watched live
This light is insane !
Went from Ac Infinity 100w light to this and figured I’d use the same amount of watts +/- (60w) only a little higher above the canopy.. I fried them 😅 Had to raise the lights probably 40 cm more… Yes, I’m a noob
i have 1mx1mx2m does one of those work even on the edges with at least 200?
in your comparison FC-E vs FC , the FCE Hanging height is 32 cm, and the FC hanging height is 44.5, doesn't seems like a fair comparison
I think you missed the part when he raised it to 42cm and the numbers got even better?
Keep goin back and forth between this and the kind lights
I have an fc-e 4800 and love it
Yeah I got one for my current grow based on this channel's recommendation and it's amazing compared to my old light.
If you are a Dr. Please go into detail regarding the ABSOLUTE ESSENTIAL subject of soil microbiology....people think that they are feeding their plants ..ehrn on reality you are feeding the microbes that in turn make those nutrients a sizable for plant uptake ..please detail this Dr. Thanks. 😮
The exact same thing that goes on inside our gut 😮 and most of the population doesn't realize it, they just go on living oblivious...Sounds a Little Hawaiian doesn't?
Another great vid with great information awesome job bro
Super informative as always doc appreciate your content
Nice video with a lot of information but I'm still a little lost with all their models.
Could you tell me which one to choose to get the best result in 39"x39".
FC-3000/ FC-E3000/ FC EVO 3000? And why are the prices so different between these 3 models? Thank you for your clarification
The differences between those two lights are pretty much what I would expect from the same lights at different heights, which they were.
Another great review dude
Thx for your great vids, cann u make one for the new FC 3000-Evo Series from Mars hydro?
Same. Cam here to comment this!
Awesome information 🌱 awesome video and awesome fun. 💚💚💚 thanks Doc
Love to have one
What’s better the FCE or F.C. the fixed light with Samsung and Osram only had 894 diodes or the removable bars fcE , bridgelux diodes 1194 that’s what uk choices are
What size of the box in which you have made a measurement
What is better this light or the viparspectra
Great light and best review as usual
Hey fella, love your reviews, you are my go to channel every time! How would 4 of these do In a 5x5? I can't use one large fitting as I'm planning on using the tent for a 2 stage perpetual flower grow and therefore need different heights. Cheers :)
Really hoping for a random number generator next give away.... Thankx for the work!!!
I am a little bit confuse, on your website you say ideal hight is 32cm. And here you say 42cm????
i'm debating between choosing the FC-E3000 and the Medic grow mini sun 2 for a 2x4 closet grow. They are both approximately the same kind of figures in terms of price ($200) usable PPF.... photon efficiency was a little btter on the MH (231 vs 212) with Med Grow just beating the MH on benchmark yields (506 vs 491).
What i had read was that both these companies were lacking in after sales service, spare parts etc.Any thoughts ?
Any thoughts ?
If I'm not mistaking, Medic grow lights gets very hot. Not 100% sure, please check it. Didn't know about after sale lacking, I will check that because that's important (5 years warranty don't mean sh**t if they don't honnor it). Thanks
It is a pitty that he does t say how high and which % the light has to be in seedling and grow phase. Can any one help me with that numbers
It is a pitty that he does t say how high and which % the light has to be in seedling and grow phase. Can anyone help me with dat
This light or Viparspectra ks3000?
Good book I already finish read your book in Kindle.Make me good understand about cannabis.
do you think it would also fit in a 80x80cm tent ? ( 2,62 x2,62 feet) ?
Yes!
just got one and loving it can't wait to do a whole grow under it
How did it do
@@aaronjaca yeah it is a very good light well worth it, but my tent was to big for it so i got a new tent, a 100x100x200 and then we just had a really cold cappy winter so it's hard to say what you will pull from it, i got a good 6oz from it and maybe 3 more crappy oz.but this was one of the worst grows i've seen lol and just happened to be mine.just starting a new run and about to start summer so really looking forward to the next one
Mine has a Meanwell driver. Bought it last year. Wonder what happened.
Maybe LG is cheaper and just as good. Better for their bottom line.
@@PeterKKraus Maybe. Either way my light has been running strong for almost a year.
I got a meanwell driver but didnt get the stickers with the ts 1000norvthis fce3000
They're cheaping out they're switching all the drivers out to offbrand ones
Does someone know how to figure out what spectrum this light has, for the ppfd Apps like tent buddy or ppfd Meter?
Already messed it up once and burnt my plants :(
i got mine about 40 to 45 cm away from plant seems pritty good, at 30 cm i was justb starting to see some light stress.o thatr is in flower as only just got it at xmass and have not veged under him yet.
perfect review
Dope video...... Information spot on! 🛸
I have 2 fc8000 in 8x8 grow room I’m rocking out 💥
@shane kearsley how many u run what size pot. I run 10 gal 8 g’s
What u think about putting 2xFC-E3000 in 150x90cm growbox? Or meybe any other idea which light will be perfect to this box?
sp6500 maybe
@@SSH01 I decided to 70x70 and TS1000 :)
Great little light
How would the FCE3000 do in a4x4 tent
3x3 would do better.My FC E 4800 struggles in my 4x4.But it still does the job if dialed in.6 inches right off the top.Spread them bars out there they need to be..I'm wanting a fc e3000 for a 30x30 tent reason I chimed out..Hope it helps
Your video and website claim that the FC-E3000 includes UVA, but Mars Hydro's website states the opposite. Is this still worth it at this price point *without* UVA diodes?
Yes! It had a few UV diodes when I tested it, but more recent models have gone without. I do not think grow lights should include UV diodes - they are inefficient and there is no benefit to having them. They were more about marketing than performance and I am glad that Mars Hydro moved away from them. Grower Love!
what is your advice for a 1 by 1 meter if it comes down to lumatek or photontek 300w and this hydro
From what i understand, the Mars Hydro stuff is quite ok, but their support is horrible. Also the app seems real bad, 1,5 Stars out of 5.
After long research i personally would recommend Lumatek or SANlight or Greenception. Lumatek seems to offer the best value for money, i'd go with the 3000 pro for 1m x 1m.
It says on the booklet that you hang it 12 inches away on full power when in flower isn’t that to close?
That's very close. I started with 30 inches. And each week lowered it. Looks like 18-20 inches at 75% is perfect for me
Greetings ☮️ what’s the max # of plants for flower with this light?
I got a meanwell driver with mine but I noticed like u no stickers
Cuantos lúmenes tiene el foco ?
Would love to have one for my 4x4
Do you know your FC tests are from the old Mars FC version 1 , the updated FC design has 3 rows of diodes per bar not 2 like it your videos, the design was updated about a year ago, I have the 3 row diode updated version. Your comparing par maps to a discontinued design with a third less diodes. Anyways I'm surprised you don't know so thought i'd share. Cheers
So that's why they're so much more expensive than the FCE
@@PeterKKraus FCE is a budget light, I was just saying Dr Coco is comparing the par to the old original FC design which isn't a fair comparison. I have FCE & FC bars, prefer FC myself but there both good for the price.
@@420mFuk FC and FCE were the same except the FCE has Ledastar diodes and the FC Samsung.
@@420mFuk What I mean to say is that they performed similarly but Samsung diodes are more expensive but the price gap got bigger.
Setting up this to replace a 4 bar t5 in veg have 2 200 watt quantum boards in there aswell 5x5 in flower I use FC-8000 not the e version 12x12 flower room only use tents for veg and cloner
I have one and the spider farmer SE3000 love them both
Which 1 you think is better ?? Can't decide
@@adriancyrus1973 spider farmer the SE3000 is a beast
Yeah it’s slightly bigger, it’s so freaking bright compared to the FCE, and the SE3000 uses Samsung diodes where the FCE uses bridgelux diodes. Don’t get me wrong for the price the FCE you can’t go wrong. But if you want to get it either the 1st time I’ll spend a lil extra and get the spider farmer
And compared to FC 3000 which also has Samsung diodes will you still pick the SE
@@adriancyrus1973 yes to be honest I could’ve gotten the FC 3000 but I passed on it for the spider farmer HONESTLY SE3000 was my 1st light got the FCE3000 after. If you want UV in your light fixture go with spider farmer the FC3000 doesn’t have UV and if you’re looking for one a lil more cheaper you can’t go wrong with mars hydro
My brother from another mother
I like this unit but the spider farmer is just a little better and costs roughly the same .
I agree with you brother, not much price difference to grab a little bit extra quality. Plus I like that you can move the light bars around on the spyder farmer.
@@-CT-SODBUSTER
They haves flash sales every week on their website. I picked up a brand new se 7000 for just £480 .
It's already back up to £590 .
@@-CT-SODBUSTERyou can move the bars. The fc3000 is in a fixed position but the fce they slide
I probably would have guessed 462. Did anyone get it exactly? I got the MF 2000 for $99 on an Amazon lightning deal not long after I bought the Hydra 3200.
Does anybody know if a 400w hps can be put in 3x3 tent
with a ton of airflow sure
needs to be vented and the plants need enough air movement to be visible moving
I've been running a 400w air cooled hood for years in a 32"x32" tent.
hello still give away ?i want for vlog growing
While the light itself seems awesome, the smart function is lacking. Bluetooth is inconsistent and the app isn't the best. I think I'm going to have to buy a timer to regulate the light schedule instead of using the "smart" technology.
Hlg Scorpion Diablo test?
✌✌
Is it to late for the giveaway?
💚#1luv4dabud 👍
600
Fce3000 pleases me well
400
Should you ever need customer service in a bad situation I'd rather not depend on mars hydro. I'm in that position as we speak and I can tell you for sure they will never get another $ from me. I wouldn't run a free light from them without a backup on hand because if it fails your plants will die long before they even try to help. I just lost my mother's and clones to a ts3000 that is only 4 months old and am being run in circles by customer service so I am admittedly bitter. There are companies with literally the same product but give a shit about their customers.
The new viparspectra lights seem to be the best cheap light 🤷🏻♂️
If you go 2 x 4, the Atreum Hydra 3200 is a great value. $377 after mj coco discount. You can have it 2 feet from the canopy at 50% and be in liw veg territory.
Or Medic Grow
They designed the light so it's easy to repair because the bridgelux don't last. Mars Hydro know it's easier to send separate bars when warranties start piling up. If you want longevity get the FC series with the Samsungs.
Nope. Bridgelux make good diodes and have done for years. The only issue with them is they're not quite as efficient as Samsung
@@louche33 Come on dude. I've used the FCE and diodes burning out in the 2nd grow. Many people having the same issue. Mara hydro send you out a new bar under warranty. They know they aren't as reliable that's why the light is designed the way it is. For easy repair.
How do u know,
I'm using 5 year old bestva leds double chips, still works like new
Bridgelux diodes are great dude
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Weak lights
How? 2.17 umols per joule for a 3x3 is not a weak light
Hps fanboy i think
@@Visvangmeneer He's just ignorant of the advancements that've been made in the industry. I started with LEDs and gave up on them pretty quickly and then completely ignored all things LED until just a couple weeks ago when a buddy was telling me about a new LED he got. Things certainly have changed since the old pink LED days.