I'm not an expert but here's my take 1) easy to get into a series (start from Vol 1 and read) 2) diversity of genres 3) Very affordable 4) they focus on storytelling NOT agenda
Also they aren't beholden to creating a universe. While it's fun to imagine there's no way you could both have a Shonen Jump comic book universe where Ichigo, Goku, Luffy, and Deku team up to fight Frieza. It would unnecessarily restrict the creators of these individual titles.
@@TheAmpharosFreak Its called nuance. Most TV shows, movies, and comics nowadays don't even know the meaning. I don't see any political messages in Yu Yu Hakushou, DBS, Demon Slayer, or Jujutisu Kaisen. You blowing smoke
@@DHworldwide185 Don’t you see any political message in a manga where a world is so violent, that they ( by “they”, I mean the supposed good guys, the “state”) send kids to a war despite how young they’re, because they are already exposed to brutal violence by their age? I know Demon Slayer is not a great manga, not one of my favorites, is kinda difficult to see a message behind the story, but everything is political, every story, somehow.
Pretty simple if you ask me. Very organized sections, bindings easy to identify, serialized titles have proper story archs/ending, authors almost always cater to fans, art is distinct, volumes are inexpensive, apps have free to read chapters and true diversity of characters. Oh and the artists rarely rebuke or offend fans… that can help.
Multiple writers is double edged sword, over the past decade or so we’ve been suffering the consequences of multiple writers, however we’ve been reaping the benefits far longer than we realize, like most DC/Marvel series are perfected by writers who aren’t the original creator or are made complete thanks to multiple writers building on each other’s work. It’s not a black and white issue and I think more people should realize that.
@@Bolbi145 it may not be black and white but no matter what you gotta make the green if you want to keep doing what your doing and marvel and dc can’t figure out how . Everything is an excuse as to why they are not successful except them…
@@tooruoikawa8985 well there is also the issue of the comics code, the crash caused by speculators and poor distribution, and the social stigma (basically being booed by your own home town), I just think we need more good cops in the manga vs comics debate, the only guy playing good cop is Perch
@@Bolbi145 manga readers don’t care as much about who specifically is drawing the panels as long as it comes from the same studio it was originally published by. There are wxpections for legendary mangaka but There is more Manga output daily than comics and fans are okay with studios working together to publish good work. Blaming the switching of writers is silly and just an excuse for poor products. Honestly people are thinking too hard into this. Normies don’t care about who the inker is or the colouring artist, they just want a cool fucking Batman or Spider-Man. It’s really not that difficult. Everything else is noise really. I don’t think jack Kirby or Stan lee gave two shots about what the comic book industry does now at a time when reading comics was considered childish hence why that is the golden era.
@@tooruoikawa8985 I know, but I’m just saying that if we did the Manga method then with characters like Batman we wouldn’t have the batcave, Bane, Barbara Gordon, the grappling hook, Ra’s Al Ghul, Harvey Bullock, Harley Quinn, or all of the best stories since they were either from other media or writers. I know manga is better from what I hear, I’m just trying to play good cop
Manga is driven by passion. Comics are driven by low cost for quick money. Also, manga are important to their writers. Only thing the comics writers care about are their "message" and retweet.
First and foremost, displaying tankōbon is far easier and consistent than graphic novels. Manga has other product tie-ins that can bring in/excite new readers to a title that don’t typically exist for Western comics. Manga has a vast number of different genres that typically don’t exist in Western comics. Consistent artwork and writing are also something that has almost never been present in Western comics. Manga don’t tend to always be preaching at the readers, Western comics, …. Yeesh…. It makes it easy to just say, “no, thank you” to Western comics (with the exception of many independents and smaller publishers).
Not to mention that since they're books, you can identify them from three different angles, unlike comics where it's the front cover and *maybe* the spine if it's big enough.
I realized that the moment I walked into the 5 and Below store and saw some exclusive reprints of *Fairy Tail* and *Attack on Titan* where the Transformers used to be. Two whole volumes of a series for ten bucks? With no other comics in sight to compete? That's a solid foothold for any fan compared to what they'd get with 3 issues of Batman or Superman. The Manga industry could easily corner the market and fill the gap if other stores jumped at the chance. It's already happening at any Barnes and Noble you walk into.
I feel like DC had an accessibility point for new readers and that was the Earth One line, but they didn’t promote it. The volumes came out too infrequently, and now it has come out that the initial Green Lantern story won’t even be completed with the 3rd volume.
Many Manga titles are creator owned and they have control when their characters are used in other media, things like gender bending characters can’t happen without the original creators OK.
Biggest reason why Manga destroys comics now a days is they understand what diversity is. They look at it in terms of genre Mecha, Fantasy, cooking, sports, iisekai, shounen, bishoujou ,hell Yaoi, Yuri and other forms of hentai etc.. While DC and Marvel they look at Diversity in terms of race . Manga's one weakness is that the majority of their characters are kids. Where Marvel and DC focused on adults which to me were more relatable in time forgotten. I'm a Anime and Manga mark, But, comics got me in to the game I love my heroes to see their destruction hurts me to my soul.
True, but there are stories like Issak and Monster that has adults as main characters. Even mecha like Patlabor and Votoms have adults as MCs. My personal favorite are wholesome ones like NukeDuke.
Manga has already had a long foothold thanks to Studio Proteus, Viz, Dark horse and other publishers. They've really made their mark in the 80s, and since then have had the opportunities to publish mega hits such as Ranma, Ghost in the Shell, Akira, Nauasica ( and much more)...to current hits like My Hero Academia, Onepiece, Naruto, Bleach( and so much more) they're not going anywhere! This was a time they published mangas in comic form, and had also took advantage of the market publishing independent titles such as TMNT so it was fairly niche. Since that time, they've grown into a bigger publisher for the West and were allowed to publish commercial hits such Oh My Goddess, Dragon Ball, Sailor Moon, Yugioh and even Shonen Jump. It was insane to think how humble it was in the beginning to now being a more established market! Also, including anime as the best form of advertisement for any series...its no wonder it'll continue being a hit!
Not to mention the fact that their anime adaptations come out very quickly, are very accurate to the source material, and give the stories *double* the exposure through streaming services.
@@CrisisComics the 1:1 Anime adaptation plus the industry's shift to a seasonal release format was the perfect gateway into getting in a particular Manga
@@CrisisComics , I know, and in the west, when they adapt something they seem to not care about the source materiel, because you get people trying to change things about it for reasons.
Over the last 2 years I've probably spent $2-3000 on Manga. It's just incredibly fun. My wife watches anime and I would keep seeing her watch stuff and ask her what the show was. She'd tell me the name, I'd look up the Manga and buy the first few volumes. Now I have several cabinets filled with the stuff. Haven't bought a single DC/Marvel comic in that time.
Fantastic! I'm excited for the future of Manga and Anime throughout the world. Feels good that other people who haven't experienced Manga and Anime for themselves will be able to experience the joy and excitement those of us that had experienced it have.
I also want to say that usually anime/manga that has been adapted tries to stick to the source material, with comics they don't care about the source material, and heck it was stated by people working on adaptations themselves that say that the source material don't matter which is dumb, because if it weren't for the source material your adaptation wouldn't exist.
I mean they’re not actually wrong… when you consider that their goal is to make billion-dollar Hollywood movies, and not to sell comic books. If the source material was actually important to the success of the films, they wouldn’t be basing their movie adaptations on one-sentence summaries of comic stories written by someone who’s only read the Wikipedia article for the run in question, and thess movies would not be wildly popular. The MCU literally IS at the point where they can start inventing characters and storylines wholesale and still see success because the vast majority of the audience has no idea who the existing comic characters are to begin with, and base their perception solely on the movie version. Anime on the other hand basically only exists to sell manga, so sticking to the source material is pretty much a prerequisite.
@@sssspider , I disagree and think that they're wrong, look at the Halo live action series, Lord of the Rings: Rings of Power, Wheel of Time, etc. The backlash for these shows and more because they ignored the source material and put whatever they want, look foolish.
I have been an American comic reader since I was 7 years old, I'm 36 now. It wasn't until after mid heroic age of marvel/ blackest night era was when I jumped ship to Manga. It's easier to get my hands on, the genres are also easier to navigate through. And the stories are superb. Consistent writer on a title, definitely helps, that's for sure
@@HonduranHoneymoonhon I enjoyed it quite a bit, got a little weird with the Nekron appearance but non the less I liked it. It was everything after the conclusions of Marvel's Seige & Blackest Night/Brightest day I left the community. I'm slowly dipping back into the pool recently since 2 weeks ago. It's been what...10 years since I bought an American comic, first thing I picked up was Nice House On the lake. Good stuff
@@shinmegamitalks Yeah, I much Preferred Sinestro Corps War to Blackest Night. You should check out the Rebirth Superman run by Peter Tomasi and Patrick Gleason.
8:23 the thing is that comics have been switching around writers ever since the 50’s, and it is double edged sword, over the past decade or so we’ve really been suffering the consequences of multiple writers, however we’ve been reaping the benefits far longer than we realize, like most DC/Marvel series are perfected by writers who aren’t the original creator or are made complete thanks to multiple writers building on each other’s work. Like Wolverine would never have existed if Stan Lee and Jack Kirby stayed on the Hulk. It’s not a black and white issue and I think more people should realize that.
DC and Marvel are not telling interesting stories anymore. Simple as that. They are superheroes and iconic yes, but the companies mishandled them to the point of pushing myself and many others away. I’ve switched to manga and anime over the last 2 years because of the sheer variety of stories, you can think of something, and I guarantee there is a manga or anime out there that will fit that mold. It’s impressive honestly, and no preaching and making the reader feel like shit or a bad person because of different opinions.
My LCS has a graphic novel section and manga is about a third of the shelf space. A few years ago it was half that. I asked if they were doing well on manga and was told they plan on it being a 50/50 split in the next year or so.
Allegiance Arts failed at Walmart. I was looking at them one time, stuff looked OK, but at the end of the day it was $5 for 22 pages and couldn't do it. They languished on the shelf for a couple months and were gone. Meanwhile, the 200 or so page mangas for $8 seem to have gained a solid foothold at Walmart. Is it really surprising the current pricing model doesn't work for mass distribution/outside specialty collector shops?
I would like to take this moment to recommend Mizukami Satoshi, and specifically Sengoku Youko, Spirit Circle, and Hoshi no Samidare. The guy is a master at establishing a great cast of characters and sending them on a crazy journey in just a few volumes.
For dc and marvel, they’d have to have expectations on their creative teams to deliver great stories and consistent art and that’s not happening anytime soon.
1) Consistent art. 2) Consistent story (typically one series : one writer and one artist, sometimes he's both.) Also, greater freedom, authors don't have to bend the knees to introduce quotas, LGBTs, etc. Their serie is theirs. And manga is still tied to the market (supply and demand), while comics have moved on from the model ("big daddy Disney will pay for it" for Marvel for example).
The major diference from now and before is that manga writers have an AIM AUDIENCE that makes their material so even thou a manga is a shonen, teen girls and adults can also enjoy because they know what to expect. Shojos like Cardcapture Sakura are the same, with boys enjoying the manga/anime even if it's aimed to teen girls. Comic USED to be like that, but now 'they have to be for everyone' and in this 'everyone' it's either the writer don't know which direction the audience would keep buying the books or the writer just don't care at all. You see this cases with Superman and Batman where in the attempt to get new audience they forsake the old works and lose their old and reliable clients or, like starfire daugther dumpsterfire or New Woke Warrior Marvel, they just don't care for an audience and do some trash to show how woke they are
11:07 Wes, My friend you haven't seen worst part of fandom. That demanded for those attributes on social media. Thankfully Manga Authors/Artist don't bend the knee to those fans' demands on twitter. Those fans that demand are not fans. Always greedy and never Satisfy.
As a kid, when I set out to begin with comics, I was apprehensive for the longest time about buying the titles that had adult characters. I just couldn't (or didn't want to) relate to anything that didn't represent me, a child of 10 years. I actually thought grown-ups were super-lame. (Still do, really.) But I bought into the 'capes & tights' stuff eventually, only because there was a dearth of anything besides. I watched as western comics thrived because they had no competition in the medium. I doubt I would have started with comics if manga was as prolific and readily available to me then as it is now. Manga is continuing to offer a fun alternative to kids that was simply not there 30 years ago. For me, it was comics or nothin'. I'm glad my kids have a choice now.
Last Wednesday I went to my usual comic shop and noticed two things. My shop has carried Manga for about a year and a half now, kept on a tiny shelf on one corner of the wall. That shelf has gotten larger in recent weeks, and this time I noticed that he had manga volumes out on his new release shelf, where they had NEVER appeared before. Second thing I saw was a woman walking out of the shop (this is already a rarity), and she was carrying a large bag FILLED with manga. No comic books, just manga, and lots of it. Fascinating.
I grew up first reading manga, then comics... but lately, just manga. I felt that we could love both manga and comics at the same time. But with limited time and resources, I've no tolerance for bad characters and stories. Manga from time to time let me down, but never ever in the ways Marvel/DC destroying their own characters right now
Looks like what happened in my country (Germany) since 2008-2009 is now happening in America, as manga became equal to general books and pushed American superhero comics into a small corner.
If the mainstream diversified its choice of genres they'd probably be in a better position right now. During the pandemic I was jumping from One Piece to Wotakoi to Dr. Stone to Jagaaaaan to Food Wars to Love is War to Gintama to Spy X Family to Jujutsu Kaisen, etc. I mean, one can only read superheroes for so long until our eyes begin to bleed.
@@biiyen8458 According to my sources Vertigo has: Horror, Sci Fi, Cyberpunk, Crime, Drama, realistic fiction, post apocalyptic, fantasy, war, pulp, and even western.
@@biiyen8458 poor sales, the 90’s crash closed 2/3rds of comic shops and diamond forbids them to sell comics in any unapproved places, and Warner Bros won’t fork over a penny for comic marketing
A testament to creator ownership, not design by committee (unless it becomes an anime). Drop the shared universes, reboots, resurrections etc and that fixes most of the comics industry. Oh, and bring back the newsstands.
Manga, ostensibly, has a very simple value statement: work hard, know your audience(s) and stick to the script...you know, an industry standard for the better part of 80 years. That said, it's not unreasonable to think that: somewhere in Japan, Rumiko Takahashi is still working...
I can't tell you how many Manga I've picked up because I've watched the Anime and got to the end of the season. I wanted to continue the story. Then I would go back and watch the new season because I wanted to see it all animated. I think DC and Marvel would benefit from having good long running animated shows that appeal to both adults and kids like they did in the early 90's and 2000's. It's not the same as having a direct adaptation like anime often is, but it can still cause a hunger for these characters that someone would then want to go out and fill. Of course it would be nice is when they did, they actually had good stories from competent writers to hook them and keep them coming back to the comic medium.
It helps that the manga-ka and the publisher is involved in the anime and merch production. The US publishers rotate authors and artists and sell the rights to studios so the stories get changed.
Anime has been accessible since the early DVD era, especially the Anime Boom of the early 2000s going back 20 years ago thanks to ADV and Funimation (back when they used to be good). Only just saying that Anime and Manga success didn't start the past few years, it originally started with the hard work from manga publishers and Anime Dubbing Companies back in the 90s and early 2000s and with DVD format we had both Japanese and English dubs on one disk instead of 2 separate VHS tapes.
One thing to keep in minbd about manga is that the faithful adaptation of manga to anime is only recent in the last 15 years or so. Before any anime, such as sailor moon, had to be stretched to 50 episodes due to how Tv was back then. the current 12-13 episode format is more convient for the market, though it has its downsides. One thing manga dose have that someone else mentioned is a target audience and knowing what a genre is. Manga focusses on what sells and knowing your audiance helps. Around 2008 Shonen jump realized they were veering off and not engaging with young readers and set about fixing that. such an acknowledgement is rare from the big 2. The other issue is that we have so many people riding on the backs of big names. while the big names can and should survive into the future we need new charecters and stories that exist outside the marvel and Dc shared universes.
Been buying manga in the US since Shonen Jump first brought Yugioh, Dragonball, and YuYu Hakusho to America. It was super easy to move from their manga magazine to collecting individual manga, starting with Dragonball, Ranma 1/2, Inuyasha, and YuYu Hakusho. With comics, it's only been like that for certain indie comics, with exception being the beginning of Jonathan Hickman's Krakoan X-Men age, which provided a jumping on point that seemed exciting until Hickman left. So, 90% of my comics collecting is comics from Image, Boom, Dynamite, Ablaze, AWA Upshot, Source Point, Aftershock, Mad Cave, Darkhorse, and IDW.
I'm a french canadian comic book artist. I've grown up wanting to draw manga, as I was growing up, I was told over and over again that no one would publish a manga in Quebec, so I've adapted, I've taken inspiration from American cartoons and created my own style. Two years ago I started publishing my first series for a big publisher here. The panelling is very manga inspired, but the character are a blend of Manga and American Cartoon, and it`s in color. I like the style, I feel it fit this particular story I'm telling very well, but I must admit, I felt a little something seeing the first French Canadian manga coming out last month from another publisher who decided to do it. I want to finish telling my current series, becaus it`s a story that's important to me and a concept I've developed for many years, but I hope I get to do a manga someday. If you ask me, the reason manga is superior is simple. For one, there the format, 200 page of story at a lower price than what you would get in a regular european comic that is only 46 pages. Plus it can come out faster because it`s black and white. It`s more story, which mean more time to develop the character, the world, the action, etc. There more to it than that, Anime, is of course a big vehiculte that promote the medium, but it's part of it. Anyway, my series will come out it english this autumn, I'd love it to be a success with the english audience^^' fingers crossed!
One hugely important fact that most often forget: Many of the manga that get released in America and Europa are the series that are successful in Japan! Much of the shit doesn’t even get released outside of Japan!
Manga definitely has the right way of doing things and plenty of genres for everyone. It helps that they are not under one big umbrella for the most part either which easier to follow continuity.
The main reasons I believe that Monga is extremely popular is one it’s very accessible and easy to get into to it’s very easy to organize and to store it and three you get a lot more bang for your buck you get a lot more for what you pay for and the final reason the stories are just better and you don’t have craters beat you over the head with politics and you don’t have to worry about people who hate you
Marvel/DC already lost an entire generation, my teenage kids know western comics heroes due to me, but when I look to their friends many of them dont. Heck a lot of them think Spiderman is a Japanese creation due to it being an Playstation first party exclusive. Activist aside, I truly like to know which marketing research the higher level suits used, to think its a good thing to change your product beyond recognition. Attack your customers, and than think they will like the changes, keep supporting you; and attract a whole new clientele. If the suits want to salvage something they got to be quick, cause the damage is practically immeasurable.
American comic book industry is not going anywhere so long as collectors think it'll sell for value. This is the poor man's Stock Market. The demand in American comic book back issues is huge. I bought the 1st appearance of Savage She-Hulk #1 for $30 about a year ago. Now, it's tracking roughly about $99 raw and $250 CGC. If you go to Europe, the layout of the shop favors graphic novels. A complete story. Manga fits the format because for roughly $10 you get a complete arc. In America, I invest in Iron Man and it takes Christopher Cantwell roughly $96 to finish his first arc with Korvac. $10 lower quality paper vs $96 better quality paper and MAYBE in 50 yrs one of those issues is worth something if Iron Man is rebooted and Korvac is adapted. The resell value of manga isn't particularly great. This is a market about reading and enjoyment while their American counterparts are about making money.
My 17 year old son has been around my comics since he was born. He loves the movies but just never showed an interest in the books. Then his best friend loaned him some anime DVDs and he was hooked. Now he's reading Manga and has me on the lookout when I'm at thrift stores and our local library book store (a surprisingly fruitful source).
One creative team does make a difference. Savage Dragon is over 260 issues and all of then have been done by Larsen. The characters age up with the age of the book. It’s an awesome book and its too bad it doesn’t get the attention it deserves and too bad other comic book creators don’t use this method.
During my childhood, I developed a deep affection for the comic books of both DC and Marvel. Sadly, due to financial constraints, I couldn't afford a monthly subscription, and the scarcity of Comic Book Stores in South Africa at that time didn't make it any easier. However, as I grew older and secured a job, I finally had the means to start collecting comics. Little did I know that a new challenge awaited me: the overwhelming array of storylines, timelines, and dimensions within each character's universe. It quickly became a daunting task to keep track of everything, leading me to make a pivotal decision. In the end, I made the difficult choice to step away from DC and Marvel entirely and embarked on a new literary journey by delving into the captivating world of manga. The moment I opened my first manga and immersed myself in its pages, I was hooked. The stories, the art, and the rich tapestry of Japanese storytelling captivated my imagination like never before. One of the aspects that drew me to manga was its ability to offer self-contained stories within specific series. I no longer felt the pressure of trying to keep up with multiple interconnected narratives. Instead, I could explore individual manga titles with relative ease, enjoying a complete story without feeling overwhelmed by a sprawling multiverse.
coming back to comics after a 30yr hiatus. I cannot follow all the volumes and crossovers and storylines :-(. I find myself just going back to the silver and bronze age, when there was a single volume and sequentially numbered issues. Why does there seem to be a new #1 issue of established characters every year-- is it just to appeal to "collectors"? Those people who entomb their issues in plastic graded by the "comics authority"? Seeing those silver and bronze age covers takes me back to my teenage years and makes me happy
As someone who’s trying to get into comics esp dc it’s so hard like I read some 80/90s stuff tried to jump in the new stuff and it’s just terrible like unreadable for someone like me who don’t care about identity politics and stuff. That’s without mentioning the fact it’s like near impossible to find a decent continuity to follow
I'm gonna sound pretty normie for saying this, but, Shonen Jump will always be king and everyone will keep coming back to it for years to come. They constantly put out amazing stories that gain popularity really quickly to make everyone want to read them. Even if it's not Shonen Jump, there are plenty of other manga titles people here in the west absolutely love and that's not gonna change anytime soon. Funnily enough, I also started collecting more manga during covid, especially One Piece
This is beyond true, my brother is an artist and I attend college as an ART major (Animation) and let me tell ya, we used to buy comic books since we grew up with it. but for last 4-5 years its been nothing but manga. Although I will add the old comics books are still good reads.
I can’t keep up with the insanely good Manga I’m buying, it’s going to take me so long to read all this, I’ve spent over €4,000 in the last few months. And I’m not even halfway through my wish list that I’ve made, so much amazing stories.
DC and Marvel have had animated series though and they were pretty good at least back in the 90s and 2000s. Especially the DC movies but I have heard the DC animated series has kind of been meh lately especially Young Justice.
If any comic book only fans want to debate and say that "manga isn't killing comics" Go to you're local Wal-mart and buy the newest Captain Marvel comic...you can't. okay then buy the newest Captain Marvel TPB...you can't...okay then go buy the newest Issue of the current Anime (JuJutsu Kaisen, Spy X Family, MHA)...you ca-ooh wait you can! end of debate.
If I want to read a sexy powerful female or non powerful female character that isn’t a feminist, misandrist then magna is the right place for me to go.
Mangas are ruling the comic industry.Even here in my country the little daughter of my cousin prefer read Naruto than touch a DC or Marvel book.If the big 2 don't change your mind will gonna fall.
I loved comics but the first time it started disliking it with what happened to Gwenpool. It had a charming artstyle, unique characters with a story with a lot of heart. But it was cancelled, and every other writer that got their hands on Gwenpool just turns her into a Deadpool clone with horny bait. I stopped reading any comics after that.
I agree, the digital comic has to be less than the physical comic. I can't accept paying the same price as a physical comic to get the digital version.
LGBT representation has *ALWAYS* existed in manga, in a way that doesn't shove it into your nose. Right now, for example "Komi can't communicate" features them in a way that makes sense within the story: Najimi whose gender is unknown; Yamai who is obsessed in love in a toxic way with Komi; and Katai that seems to have a gay crush on Tadano.
Manga isn't taking over the industry, it's filling a void left by comics.... a big ginormous humongous void due to comics being hard to get into, lacking of compelling genres, and the crap pandering storytelling. There's so much to manga and Light Novels that they're filling that void in non stop droves. It's like American Comics are letting them take that void where the money is.
It’s taking over from global pov, cause American comics are not a thing internationally or not as big as they are in US depending on a region/country. There is nothing to replace essentially in many places.
Even though I fell out of love with Comics and Manga I can see why Manga is doing better because the writers and artists actually care about giving the customer a good product and I don't want rub Marvel and DC face in the mud but Manga does got better LGTBQ representation if readers are into that
Manga has even way more LGBTQ stuff than the western comic, and don't get me started with webtoon, so its funny when westerns complain about the lack of it when its lettarly everywhere I go
Except manga has whole genres like yaoi that are purposely devoted to prominently explore and deal with LGBTQ stuffs. You won't be overwhelmed with gender or sex orientation issues while you read shounens or majority of seinens. That's the difference with western comics, nobody is really seeking to read about Superman, Batman etc... and at the same time being preached asf about LGBTQ matters or whatever agenda but Marvel & DC don't want to understand that lol. It would be way smarter and better if the Big 2 create a LGBTQ section 🤷🏾♂️.
@@rybackfrankie8679 I find it hard to believe that they don't get it, it seems to be more believable that they understand but still choose to double down
@@DevilRaptorB Maybe... well bruh, I never underestimate the extent of the delusion of people or how much they can tell themselves stories or lies to themselves. Especially people who are "on mission", fight for a cause or "to spread a message" before everything : The activists. And it seems the industry is too much of these people right now. They don't really want to adapt to the market but they want the market to adapt to them 🤷🏾♂️. They will keep on going, no matter what, until a breaking point or until the very people who actually control money within the industry and the shareholders get rid of them following some kind of bankruptcy.
@@rybackfrankie8679 I much rather honestly they remain in delusion Zone, the faster they burn the better for indie creators, look at Eric July, if there was one factor that is helping him is that these companies like DC and Marvel are helping him out but shooting themselves on the foot again and again
@@DevilRaptorB Oh, they are really helping the Rippaverse and I have the feeling they'll help others as well in a very near future lol. I know that one of DC & Marvel favorite tactics is to buy the competition in order to bury it 6ft under but it's unlikely to happen right now because nowadays and helped by the technology, people/creators are way too business minded, and they know too well how much valuable is an I.P, especially when it comes to multimedia adaptations with all these platforms etc... Everybody knows there is a lot of profit to make so very few would sell their I.P. Eric July and the other indies won't make Jim Lee's huge mistake when he sold Wildstorm to DC. The Rippaverse unexpected success, the enthusiasm and the buzz around it speaks volume. Anyway, I have always thought that the future of the comic book industry is tied to the indies.
Write One Piece manga review in youtube search and see how many views there are. Also take a look at the demographics, manga is read by young people, women and black people. Comics are purely read by older white boomers whom the writers actually hate. Whose fault it is for losing all these demographics, I have no idea but manga and anime is definitely VERY popular with more demographics than comics.
My worry is that like the American comic book and film industry, manga will become complacent in it's own success and fall to both infiltration and loss of identity in an ill advised attempt to appeal to the widest market possible. The global market. See American films becoming homogenous and boring in an attempt to pander to the Chinese market, or the american comic books attempting to expand their market to people with different values by appealing to everyone except their original fans. I don't need to tell you that Manga and anime have a lot of content in them that even now is under a lot of scrutiny. A lot of them have extreme violence and taboo sexual subject matter as central plot points. (see the controversies over Goblin Slayer, Redo Of Healer, My Dress Up Darling, Uzaki-Chan, ) Stuff that while it does give Japanese entertainment a unique identity, is only one stupid conservative or woke politician away from being censored or outright banned. Like Australias conservative party did to certain anime and manga titles in 2016. And even if censorship from the us government isn't a problem. What's to say Japanese creators wont start self censoring their art in an attempt to appeal to the entire world that doesn't have Japans values on these particular topics. Like the video game industry did during the GG controversy?
@@tommyfishhouse8050 Wokeness is on a slow decline, and free speech is on the rise now...It's slowly being witnessed in a lot of previously stifled places. Woke is a bad dream, good thing people are starting to wake up.
I do not read a lot of manga , YET! But I have be reading comics since I was 6, back in 1972 ! Yup 1972 not a typo. And I have almost stopped reading all of the marvel and dc titles because of all of the race and gender swapping, along with the gay representation being forced in the comics! Not to mention the overwhelming political messaging. I read comics to escape all of the stuff going on around me, not to be slapped in the face with it. This is what the American comics companies are doing. Just driving the readership in hordes to manga. And I for one am about ready to join the hordes.
With what Marvels doing to MJ and Spidey right now I'm gonna quit. MJ is with Paul and Spidey is a loner...mim sorry who wanted this?! Didn't you learn from One More Day, Marvel?! It if weren't for Renew your Vows, I'd quick a long time ago!
At this point, I don’t think western comics, especially marvel and dc, are ever going to make it to the same level of manga, they will still sell a lot of comics and make a lot of money, but manga is already taking over and unless some insane growth happens in the next couple of years, which let’s not kid ourselves the chances of that are incredibly slim, it will eventually become completely irrelevant.
The biggest headscratcher for anyone with any sense should be how Marvel and DC are looking at single Manga series outselling the entire american comics market and just... not doing anything. Copy the distribution model? Nope. Copy the creative process? Nope.
When I see Marvel and DC not following Viz Media with their online approach, it just baffles me. The only logical conclusion is that they are incredibly stupid or going out of their way to leave money on the table- it's a no brainer! I'm betting that Manga don't engage in gimmicks like 37 variant covers for the one issue either. Oh, and maybe if the good people at the Big Two got off Twitter for 5 minutes they just might get around to putting out a good product. Rant over 😓
I can't even think of an app DC and Marvel use for subscription services. I think I remember DC had something, forgot the name, but it's ideal on paper, but it was terrible at launch. Just limited choices in comics, and streaming movies and shows was abysmal.
Honestly, people mention the plague, but MCU was THE big thing for 11 years, and they somehow failed to capitalize. Seriously, it should've been impossible for them to screw that up, but they did it. MHA and OPM did a better job capitalizing on the MCU than Marvel. On another note, despite being a battle shounen, Inuyasha is regularly referred to as Dragon Ball for girls, and yeah. It kinda is. I still love it, though. Too bad Yashahime sucks.
America knew how to do it well. Japan figured out how to do it better, smaller, faster and cheaper. This applies to 95% of everything we consume, now going on 50 years. Sorry not sorry.
Shinji knows that Manga is [not] going anywhere. My Psycho Pass allows me entry to the manga store. It's all ORA ORA ORA or nothing. I gotta catch them all. Yes, law abiding citizen, purchase manga at a PLUS ULTRA rate. If only I had OVER 9000 dollars to make purchases. Eren takes a bite out of the Marvel market.
I'm not an expert but here's my take
1) easy to get into a series (start from Vol 1 and read)
2) diversity of genres
3) Very affordable
4) they focus on storytelling NOT agenda
Also they aren't beholden to creating a universe. While it's fun to imagine there's no way you could both have a Shonen Jump comic book universe where Ichigo, Goku, Luffy, and Deku team up to fight Frieza. It would unnecessarily restrict the creators of these individual titles.
And there’s actually an ending
Lmao you think there isn’t an agenda in manga stories? Bruh it’s just Japan centric, but it’s there.
@@TheAmpharosFreak Its called nuance. Most TV shows, movies, and comics nowadays don't even know the meaning. I don't see any political messages in Yu Yu Hakushou, DBS, Demon Slayer, or Jujutisu Kaisen. You blowing smoke
@@DHworldwide185 Don’t you see any political message in a manga where a world is so violent, that they ( by “they”, I mean the supposed good guys, the “state”) send kids to a war despite how young they’re, because they are already exposed to brutal violence by their age?
I know Demon Slayer is not a great manga, not one of my favorites, is kinda difficult to see a message behind the story, but everything is political, every story, somehow.
Pretty simple if you ask me. Very organized sections, bindings easy to identify, serialized titles have proper story archs/ending, authors almost always cater to fans, art is distinct, volumes are inexpensive, apps have free to read chapters and true diversity of characters. Oh and the artists rarely rebuke or offend fans… that can help.
Multiple writers is double edged sword, over the past decade or so we’ve been suffering the consequences of multiple writers, however we’ve been reaping the benefits far longer than we realize, like most DC/Marvel series are perfected by writers who aren’t the original creator or are made complete thanks to multiple writers building on each other’s work. It’s not a black and white issue and I think more people should realize that.
@@Bolbi145 it may not be black and white but no matter what you gotta make the green if you want to keep doing what your doing and marvel and dc can’t figure out how
. Everything is an excuse as to why they are not successful except them…
@@tooruoikawa8985 well there is also the issue of the comics code, the crash caused by speculators and poor distribution, and the social stigma (basically being booed by your own home town), I just think we need more good cops in the manga vs comics debate, the only guy playing good cop is Perch
@@Bolbi145 manga readers don’t care as much about who specifically is drawing the panels as long as it comes from the same studio it was originally published by. There are wxpections for legendary mangaka but There is more Manga output daily than comics and fans are okay with studios working together to publish good work. Blaming the switching of writers is silly and just an excuse for poor products. Honestly people are thinking too hard into this. Normies don’t care about who the inker is or the colouring artist, they just want a cool fucking Batman or Spider-Man. It’s really not that difficult. Everything else is noise really. I don’t think jack Kirby or Stan lee gave two shots about what the comic book industry does now at a time when reading comics was considered childish hence why that is the golden era.
@@tooruoikawa8985 I know, but I’m just saying that if we did the Manga method then with characters like Batman we wouldn’t have the batcave, Bane, Barbara Gordon, the grappling hook, Ra’s Al Ghul, Harvey Bullock, Harley Quinn, or all of the best stories since they were either from other media or writers. I know manga is better from what I hear, I’m just trying to play good cop
Manga is driven by passion.
Comics are driven by low cost for quick money.
Also, manga are important to their writers. Only thing the comics writers care about are their "message" and retweet.
First and foremost, displaying tankōbon is far easier and consistent than graphic novels. Manga has other product tie-ins that can bring in/excite new readers to a title that don’t typically exist for Western comics. Manga has a vast number of different genres that typically don’t exist in Western comics. Consistent artwork and writing are also something that has almost never been present in Western comics. Manga don’t tend to always be preaching at the readers, Western comics, …. Yeesh…. It makes it easy to just say, “no, thank you” to Western comics (with the exception of many independents and smaller publishers).
Not to mention that since they're books, you can identify them from three different angles, unlike comics where it's the front cover and *maybe* the spine if it's big enough.
I realized that the moment I walked into the 5 and Below store and saw some exclusive reprints of *Fairy Tail* and *Attack on Titan* where the Transformers used to be. Two whole volumes of a series for ten bucks? With no other comics in sight to compete? That's a solid foothold for any fan compared to what they'd get with 3 issues of Batman or Superman.
The Manga industry could easily corner the market and fill the gap if other stores jumped at the chance. It's already happening at any Barnes and Noble you walk into.
I feel like DC had an accessibility point for new readers and that was the Earth One line, but they didn’t promote it. The volumes came out too infrequently, and now it has come out that the initial Green Lantern story won’t even be completed with the 3rd volume.
Many Manga titles are creator owned and they have control when their characters are used in other media, things like gender bending characters can’t happen without the original creators OK.
@Chebar Killian that doujin, that different, and it never canon in the main story
Biggest reason why Manga destroys comics now a days is they understand what diversity is. They look at it in terms of genre Mecha, Fantasy, cooking, sports, iisekai, shounen, bishoujou ,hell Yaoi, Yuri and other forms of hentai etc.. While DC and Marvel they look at Diversity in terms of race . Manga's one weakness is that the majority of their characters are kids. Where Marvel and DC focused on adults which to me were more relatable in time forgotten. I'm a Anime and Manga mark, But, comics got me in to the game I love my heroes to see their destruction hurts me to my soul.
True, but there are stories like Issak and Monster that has adults as main characters. Even mecha like Patlabor and Votoms have adults as MCs. My personal favorite are wholesome ones like NukeDuke.
Manga has already had a long foothold thanks to Studio Proteus, Viz, Dark horse and other publishers. They've really made their mark in the 80s, and since then have had the opportunities to publish mega hits such as Ranma, Ghost in the Shell, Akira, Nauasica ( and much more)...to current hits like My Hero Academia, Onepiece, Naruto, Bleach( and so much more) they're not going anywhere!
This was a time they published mangas in comic form, and had also took advantage of the market publishing independent titles such as TMNT so it was fairly niche. Since that time, they've grown into a bigger publisher for the West and were allowed to publish commercial hits such Oh My Goddess, Dragon Ball, Sailor Moon, Yugioh and even Shonen Jump. It was insane to think how humble it was in the beginning to now being a more established market! Also, including anime as the best form of advertisement for any series...its no wonder it'll continue being a hit!
Not to mention the fact that their anime adaptations come out very quickly, are very accurate to the source material, and give the stories *double* the exposure through streaming services.
@@CrisisComics yep! Its the ultimate advertising! America needs to take some notes
@@CrisisComics the 1:1 Anime adaptation plus the industry's shift to a seasonal release format was the perfect gateway into getting in a particular Manga
@@biiyen8458 All perfect marketing! Your absolutely right!
@@CrisisComics , I know, and in the west, when they adapt something they seem to not care about the source materiel, because you get people trying to change things about it for reasons.
Been a fan of Manga and Anime since the 80’s.
Over the last 2 years I've probably spent $2-3000 on Manga. It's just incredibly fun. My wife watches anime and I would keep seeing her watch stuff and ask her what the show was. She'd tell me the name, I'd look up the Manga and buy the first few volumes. Now I have several cabinets filled with the stuff.
Haven't bought a single DC/Marvel comic in that time.
Man, u and ur wife are cool
@@nacht9586 lol no. We're just nerds with money.
@@StratumPress I mean it's pretty awesome your wife enjoys it as well because that makes for a good relationship.
@@nacht9586 oh yeah
@@StratumPress wow, sir, you and your wife are really weaboo seniors :)
Fantastic! I'm excited for the future of Manga and Anime throughout the world. Feels good that other people who haven't experienced Manga and Anime for themselves will be able to experience the joy and excitement those of us that had experienced it have.
I also want to say that usually anime/manga that has been adapted tries to stick to the source material, with comics they don't care about the source material, and heck it was stated by people working on adaptations themselves that say that the source material don't matter which is dumb, because if it weren't for the source material your adaptation wouldn't exist.
I mean they’re not actually wrong… when you consider that their goal is to make billion-dollar Hollywood movies, and not to sell comic books. If the source material was actually important to the success of the films, they wouldn’t be basing their movie adaptations on one-sentence summaries of comic stories written by someone who’s only read the Wikipedia article for the run in question, and thess movies would not be wildly popular. The MCU literally IS at the point where they can start inventing characters and storylines wholesale and still see success because the vast majority of the audience has no idea who the existing comic characters are to begin with, and base their perception solely on the movie version.
Anime on the other hand basically only exists to sell manga, so sticking to the source material is pretty much a prerequisite.
@@sssspider , I disagree and think that they're wrong, look at the Halo live action series, Lord of the Rings: Rings of Power, Wheel of Time, etc. The backlash for these shows and more because they ignored the source material and put whatever they want, look foolish.
I have been an American comic reader since I was 7 years old, I'm 36 now. It wasn't until after mid heroic age of marvel/ blackest night era was when I jumped ship to Manga.
It's easier to get my hands on, the genres are also easier to navigate through. And the stories are superb. Consistent writer on a title, definitely helps, that's for sure
You didn’t like Geoff Johns/Peter Tomasi Green Lantern Runs?
@@HonduranHoneymoonhon I enjoyed it quite a bit, got a little weird with the Nekron appearance but non the less I liked it.
It was everything after the conclusions of Marvel's Seige & Blackest Night/Brightest day I left the community.
I'm slowly dipping back into the pool recently since 2 weeks ago. It's been what...10 years since I bought an American comic, first thing I picked up was Nice House On the lake. Good stuff
@@shinmegamitalks
Yeah, I much Preferred Sinestro Corps War to Blackest Night.
You should check out the Rebirth Superman run by Peter Tomasi and Patrick Gleason.
@@HonduranHoneymoonhon I did hear rebirth was good, only thing I bought from that was Hellblazer. I'll check out superman though.
8:23 the thing is that comics have been switching around writers ever since the 50’s, and it is double edged sword, over the past decade or so we’ve really been suffering the consequences of multiple writers, however we’ve been reaping the benefits far longer than we realize, like most DC/Marvel series are perfected by writers who aren’t the original creator or are made complete thanks to multiple writers building on each other’s work. Like Wolverine would never have existed if Stan Lee and Jack Kirby stayed on the Hulk. It’s not a black and white issue and I think more people should realize that.
DC and Marvel are not telling interesting stories anymore. Simple as that. They are superheroes and iconic yes, but the companies mishandled them to the point of pushing myself and many others away. I’ve switched to manga and anime over the last 2 years because of the sheer variety of stories, you can think of something, and I guarantee there is a manga or anime out there that will fit that mold. It’s impressive honestly, and no preaching and making the reader feel like shit or a bad person because of different opinions.
My LCS has a graphic novel section and manga is about a third of the shelf space. A few years ago it was half that. I asked if they were doing well on manga and was told they plan on it being a 50/50 split in the next year or so.
Diversity of thought and creativity
Allegiance Arts failed at Walmart. I was looking at them one time, stuff looked OK, but at the end of the day it was $5 for 22 pages and couldn't do it. They languished on the shelf for a couple months and were gone. Meanwhile, the 200 or so page mangas for $8 seem to have gained a solid foothold at Walmart. Is it really surprising the current pricing model doesn't work for mass distribution/outside specialty collector shops?
I would like to take this moment to recommend Mizukami Satoshi, and specifically Sengoku Youko, Spirit Circle, and Hoshi no Samidare. The guy is a master at establishing a great cast of characters and sending them on a crazy journey in just a few volumes.
best part about manga character, there a lot artist draw fanart of your favourite character. daily new artwork from diferend artist.
For dc and marvel, they’d have to have expectations on their creative teams to deliver great stories and consistent art and that’s not happening anytime soon.
Very very true indeed. Well said
1) Consistent art. 2) Consistent story (typically one series : one writer and one artist, sometimes he's both.)
Also, greater freedom, authors don't have to bend the knees to introduce quotas, LGBTs, etc. Their serie is theirs.
And manga is still tied to the market (supply and demand), while comics have moved on from the model ("big daddy Disney will pay for it" for Marvel for example).
The major diference from now and before is that manga writers have an AIM AUDIENCE that makes their material so even thou a manga is a shonen, teen girls and adults can also enjoy because they know what to expect. Shojos like Cardcapture Sakura are the same, with boys enjoying the manga/anime even if it's aimed to teen girls.
Comic USED to be like that, but now 'they have to be for everyone' and in this 'everyone' it's either the writer don't know which direction the audience would keep buying the books or the writer just don't care at all. You see this cases with Superman and Batman where in the attempt to get new audience they forsake the old works and lose their old and reliable clients or, like starfire daugther dumpsterfire or New Woke Warrior Marvel, they just don't care for an audience and do some trash to show how woke they are
When something is for everyone, then it often isn't for anyone .
11:07 Wes, My friend you haven't seen worst part of fandom. That demanded for those attributes on social media. Thankfully Manga Authors/Artist don't bend the knee to those fans' demands on twitter. Those fans that demand are not fans. Always greedy and never Satisfy.
I like superhero comics but Western comics don’t seem to know how to write superheroes today.
I am reading more manga now. It’s more satisfying.
As a kid, when I set out to begin with comics, I was apprehensive for the longest time about buying the titles that had adult characters. I just couldn't (or didn't want to) relate to anything that didn't represent me, a child of 10 years. I actually thought grown-ups were super-lame. (Still do, really.) But I bought into the 'capes & tights' stuff eventually, only because there was a dearth of anything besides. I watched as western comics thrived because they had no competition in the medium.
I doubt I would have started with comics if manga was as prolific and readily available to me then as it is now.
Manga is continuing to offer a fun alternative to kids that was simply not there 30 years ago.
For me, it was comics or nothin'.
I'm glad my kids have a choice now.
Last Wednesday I went to my usual comic shop and noticed two things. My shop has carried Manga for about a year and a half now, kept on a tiny shelf on one corner of the wall. That shelf has gotten larger in recent weeks, and this time I noticed that he had manga volumes out on his new release shelf, where they had NEVER appeared before. Second thing I saw was a woman walking out of the shop (this is already a rarity), and she was carrying a large bag FILLED with manga. No comic books, just manga, and lots of it. Fascinating.
I grew up first reading manga, then comics... but lately, just manga. I felt that we could love both manga and comics at the same time.
But with limited time and resources, I've no tolerance for bad characters and stories. Manga from time to time let me down, but never ever in the ways Marvel/DC destroying their own characters right now
Looks like what happened in my country (Germany) since 2008-2009 is now happening in America, as manga became equal to general books and pushed American superhero comics into a small corner.
If the mainstream diversified its choice of genres they'd probably be in a better position right now. During the pandemic I was jumping from One Piece to Wotakoi to Dr. Stone to Jagaaaaan to Food Wars to Love is War to Gintama to Spy X Family to Jujutsu Kaisen, etc. I mean, one can only read superheroes for so long until our eyes begin to bleed.
They did and it didn’t work, Marvel had the epic imprint and icon imprint, and DC had Vertigo and Wildstorm and they underperformed
@@Bolbi145 what genres did those have?
@@biiyen8458 According to my sources Vertigo has: Horror, Sci Fi, Cyberpunk, Crime, Drama, realistic fiction, post apocalyptic, fantasy, war, pulp, and even western.
@@Bolbi145 that's a shame how come they never revived any of those?
@@biiyen8458 poor sales, the 90’s crash closed 2/3rds of comic shops and diamond forbids them to sell comics in any unapproved places, and Warner Bros won’t fork over a penny for comic marketing
A testament to creator ownership, not design by committee (unless it becomes an anime).
Drop the shared universes, reboots, resurrections etc and that fixes most of the comics industry.
Oh, and bring back the newsstands.
I'm very Interested in Anime, Webtoons And Manga these days.
Anime and Manga does what Marvel and DC Don't.
Manga, ostensibly, has a very simple value statement: work hard, know your audience(s) and stick to the script...you know, an industry standard for the better part of 80 years. That said, it's not unreasonable to think that: somewhere in Japan, Rumiko Takahashi is still working...
I can't tell you how many Manga I've picked up because I've watched the Anime and got to the end of the season. I wanted to continue the story. Then I would go back and watch the new season because I wanted to see it all animated.
I think DC and Marvel would benefit from having good long running animated shows that appeal to both adults and kids like they did in the early 90's and 2000's. It's not the same as having a direct adaptation like anime often is, but it can still cause a hunger for these characters that someone would then want to go out and fill. Of course it would be nice is when they did, they actually had good stories from competent writers to hook them and keep them coming back to the comic medium.
Once chainsaw man anime comes out this year the manga is gonna blow up like crazy
YEAH THAT'S WHY I am creating a DC manga/project right now, DUDE like if they won't listen WHY NOT the fans create better stories
It helps that the manga-ka and the publisher is involved in the anime and merch production. The US publishers rotate authors and artists and sell the rights to studios so the stories get changed.
I have taken Razörfist, the Rageaholic's very good and very based advice, and have rejected modernity and embraced pulp. God fuckin' speed! 🤘😎👌
Anime has been accessible since the early DVD era, especially the Anime Boom of the early 2000s going back 20 years ago thanks to ADV and Funimation (back when they used to be good).
Only just saying that Anime and Manga success didn't start the past few years, it originally started with the hard work from manga publishers and Anime Dubbing Companies back in the 90s and early 2000s and with DVD format we had both Japanese and English dubs on one disk instead of 2 separate VHS tapes.
One thing to keep in minbd about manga is that the faithful adaptation of manga to anime is only recent in the last 15 years or so. Before any anime, such as sailor moon, had to be stretched to 50 episodes due to how Tv was back then. the current 12-13 episode format is more convient for the market, though it has its downsides.
One thing manga dose have that someone else mentioned is a target audience and knowing what a genre is. Manga focusses on what sells and knowing your audiance helps. Around 2008 Shonen jump realized they were veering off and not engaging with young readers and set about fixing that. such an acknowledgement is rare from the big 2.
The other issue is that we have so many people riding on the backs of big names. while the big names can and should survive into the future we need new charecters and stories that exist outside the marvel and Dc shared universes.
Manga has been on a huge upward trajectory for 20 years now, they should have been taking notes since the pokemon franchise exploded honestly
Been buying manga in the US since Shonen Jump first brought Yugioh, Dragonball, and YuYu Hakusho to America. It was super easy to move from their manga magazine to collecting individual manga, starting with Dragonball, Ranma 1/2, Inuyasha, and YuYu Hakusho. With comics, it's only been like that for certain indie comics, with exception being the beginning of Jonathan Hickman's Krakoan X-Men age, which provided a jumping on point that seemed exciting until Hickman left. So, 90% of my comics collecting is comics from Image, Boom, Dynamite, Ablaze, AWA Upshot, Source Point, Aftershock, Mad Cave, Darkhorse, and IDW.
The thing is that a lot of the people who have the Shonen Jump app are still buying the same stories in print.
Hard to learn about 2000 kanji characters to read manga in japanese altho I heard some are using ocr scanning and using free translate program.
Marvel & DC will never learn.
Yea let them die.
I'm a french canadian comic book artist. I've grown up wanting to draw manga, as I was growing up, I was told over and over again that no one would publish a manga in Quebec, so I've adapted, I've taken inspiration from American cartoons and created my own style. Two years ago I started publishing my first series for a big publisher here. The panelling is very manga inspired, but the character are a blend of Manga and American Cartoon, and it`s in color. I like the style, I feel it fit this particular story I'm telling very well, but I must admit, I felt a little something seeing the first French Canadian manga coming out last month from another publisher who decided to do it. I want to finish telling my current series, becaus it`s a story that's important to me and a concept I've developed for many years, but I hope I get to do a manga someday.
If you ask me, the reason manga is superior is simple. For one, there the format, 200 page of story at a lower price than what you would get in a regular european comic that is only 46 pages. Plus it can come out faster because it`s black and white. It`s more story, which mean more time to develop the character, the world, the action, etc. There more to it than that, Anime, is of course a big vehiculte that promote the medium, but it's part of it.
Anyway, my series will come out it english this autumn, I'd love it to be a success with the english audience^^' fingers crossed!
One hugely important fact that most often forget: Many of the manga that get released in America and Europa are the series that are successful in Japan! Much of the shit doesn’t even get released outside of Japan!
Gender and Racer swapping characters makes no sense. If it did, Disney in Europe would make Donald Duck and Uncle Scrooge female kangaroos.
I have recently got into manga and what I've read puts comics to shame. Wonder how much spec for movie appearances has ruined good story telling
Manga definitely has the right way of doing things and plenty of genres for everyone. It helps that they are not under one big umbrella for the most part either which easier to follow continuity.
The main reasons I believe that Monga is extremely popular is one it’s very accessible and easy to get into to it’s very easy to organize and to store it and three you get a lot more bang for your buck you get a lot more for what you pay for and the final reason the stories are just better and you don’t have craters beat you over the head with politics and you don’t have to worry about people who hate you
Go to a Target or Walmart and look at the tshirts. Way less American superheroes on them and way more manga than a few years ago.
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Marvel/DC already lost an entire generation, my teenage kids know western comics heroes due to me, but when I look to their friends many of them dont. Heck a lot of them think Spiderman is a Japanese creation due to it being an Playstation first party exclusive. Activist aside, I truly like to know which marketing research the higher level suits used, to think its a good thing to change your product beyond recognition. Attack your customers, and than think they will like the changes, keep supporting you; and attract a whole new clientele. If the suits want to salvage something they got to be quick, cause the damage is practically immeasurable.
Manga is fun. Marvel and DC is a slog. No matter what message your pushing.
American comic book industry is not going anywhere so long as collectors think it'll sell for value. This is the poor man's Stock Market. The demand in American comic book back issues is huge. I bought the 1st appearance of Savage She-Hulk #1 for $30 about a year ago. Now, it's tracking roughly about $99 raw and $250 CGC.
If you go to Europe, the layout of the shop favors graphic novels. A complete story. Manga fits the format because for roughly $10 you get a complete arc. In America, I invest in Iron Man and it takes Christopher Cantwell roughly $96 to finish his first arc with Korvac. $10 lower quality paper vs $96 better quality paper and MAYBE in 50 yrs one of those issues is worth something if Iron Man is rebooted and Korvac is adapted. The resell value of manga isn't particularly great. This is a market about reading and enjoyment while their American counterparts are about making money.
My 17 year old son has been around my comics since he was born. He loves the movies but just never showed an interest in the books. Then his best friend loaned him some anime DVDs and he was hooked. Now he's reading Manga and has me on the lookout when I'm at thrift stores and our local library book store (a surprisingly fruitful source).
Perch does not appear on the video you linked to at the end. You did talk a lot about basketball thjough.
I know this is completely random but is Geoff johns The flash run any good 🤔😅
Yes
One creative team does make a difference. Savage Dragon is over 260 issues and all of then have been done by Larsen. The characters age up with the age of the book. It’s an awesome book and its too bad it doesn’t get the attention it deserves and too bad other comic book creators don’t use this method.
Manga becomes Anime, and comic books become mediocre feature films with more CGI than story, acting, or substance.
During my childhood, I developed a deep affection for the comic books of both DC and Marvel. Sadly, due to financial constraints, I couldn't afford a monthly subscription, and the scarcity of Comic Book Stores in South Africa at that time didn't make it any easier. However, as I grew older and secured a job, I finally had the means to start collecting comics. Little did I know that a new challenge awaited me: the overwhelming array of storylines, timelines, and dimensions within each character's universe. It quickly became a daunting task to keep track of everything, leading me to make a pivotal decision.
In the end, I made the difficult choice to step away from DC and Marvel entirely and embarked on a new literary journey by delving into the captivating world of manga. The moment I opened my first manga and immersed myself in its pages, I was hooked. The stories, the art, and the rich tapestry of Japanese storytelling captivated my imagination like never before.
One of the aspects that drew me to manga was its ability to offer self-contained stories within specific series. I no longer felt the pressure of trying to keep up with multiple interconnected narratives. Instead, I could explore individual manga titles with relative ease, enjoying a complete story without feeling overwhelmed by a sprawling multiverse.
There is nothing more exciting than seeing a big two comic reader discover manga - most can’t believe the quality and crazy amount of choices
coming back to comics after a 30yr hiatus. I cannot follow all the volumes and crossovers and storylines :-(. I find myself just going back to the silver and bronze age, when there was a single volume and sequentially numbered issues. Why does there seem to be a new #1 issue of established characters every year-- is it just to appeal to "collectors"? Those people who entomb their issues in plastic graded by the "comics authority"? Seeing those silver and bronze age covers takes me back to my teenage years and makes me happy
As someone who’s trying to get into comics esp dc it’s so hard like I read some 80/90s stuff tried to jump in the new stuff and it’s just terrible like unreadable for someone like me who don’t care about identity politics and stuff. That’s without mentioning the fact it’s like near impossible to find a decent continuity to follow
one day comicon will to change its name from comicon to mangacon
I'm gonna sound pretty normie for saying this, but, Shonen Jump will always be king and everyone will keep coming back to it for years to come. They constantly put out amazing stories that gain popularity really quickly to make everyone want to read them. Even if it's not Shonen Jump, there are plenty of other manga titles people here in the west absolutely love and that's not gonna change anytime soon. Funnily enough, I also started collecting more manga during covid, especially One Piece
This is beyond true, my brother is an artist and I attend college as an ART major (Animation) and let me tell ya, we used to buy comic books since we grew up with it. but for last 4-5 years its been nothing but manga. Although I will add the old comics books are still good reads.
I miss the physical copies of Shonen Jump.
I can’t keep up with the insanely good Manga I’m buying, it’s going to take me so long to read all this, I’ve spent over €4,000 in the last few months. And I’m not even halfway through my wish list that I’ve made, so much amazing stories.
DC and Marvel have had animated series though and they were pretty good at least back in the 90s and 2000s. Especially the DC movies but I have heard the DC animated series has kind of been meh lately especially Young Justice.
If any comic book only fans want to debate and say that "manga isn't killing comics" Go to you're local Wal-mart and buy the newest Captain Marvel comic...you can't. okay then buy the newest Captain Marvel TPB...you can't...okay then go buy the newest Issue of the current Anime (JuJutsu Kaisen, Spy X Family, MHA)...you ca-ooh wait you can! end of debate.
You can have MY copies! Unless it gets super cold, in which case I may want some as starter fuel for my wood furnace.
I first heard about Manga being on the NYT best selling list back in 2014 when Monster Musume manga was starting to become a major success.
If I want to read a sexy powerful female or non powerful female character that isn’t a feminist, misandrist then magna is the right place for me to go.
Mangas are ruling the comic industry.Even here in my country the little daughter of my cousin prefer read Naruto than touch a DC or Marvel book.If the big 2 don't change your mind will gonna fall.
I loved comics but the first time it started disliking it with what happened to Gwenpool. It had a charming artstyle, unique characters with a story with a lot of heart. But it was cancelled, and every other writer that got their hands on Gwenpool just turns her into a Deadpool clone with horny bait. I stopped reading any comics after that.
I agree, the digital comic has to be less than the physical comic. I can't accept paying the same price as a physical comic to get the digital version.
LGBT representation has *ALWAYS* existed in manga, in a way that doesn't shove it into your nose. Right now, for example "Komi can't communicate" features them in a way that makes sense within the story: Najimi whose gender is unknown; Yamai who is obsessed in love in a toxic way with Komi; and Katai that seems to have a gay crush on Tadano.
CLAMP has ALWAYS have LGBT representation in their works since the 90s
@@yanuardilaliwang8013 Lady snowblood, written in the 70's, is a freaking kick-ass lesbian assassin.
@@clampies3815 sailor moon has LGBT stuff with Uranus and Neptune
Just read Smells like Green Spirit and then go mocking lgbtq "superhero" autors lol.
Manga isn't taking over the industry, it's filling a void left by comics.... a big ginormous humongous void due to comics being hard to get into, lacking of compelling genres, and the crap pandering storytelling. There's so much to manga and Light Novels that they're filling that void in non stop droves. It's like American Comics are letting them take that void where the money is.
It’s taking over from global pov, cause American comics are not a thing internationally or not as big as they are in US depending on a region/country. There is nothing to replace essentially in many places.
The comic world of Marvel and DC are throwing salt. Because they wish they're still popular and resonating with todays youths.
The industry has killed the creators.
I got an upcoming Video this upcoming Tuesday, you might want to watch it, afraid I can't give no spoilers on the video yet
and you forget the creator section DC or Marvel don't have the creator section and worldwide vote or worldwide tournament
Even though I fell out of love with Comics and Manga I can see why Manga is doing better because the writers and artists actually care about giving the customer a good product and I don't want rub Marvel and DC face in the mud but Manga does got better LGTBQ representation if readers are into that
Manga has even way more LGBTQ stuff than the western comic, and don't get me started with webtoon, so its funny when westerns complain about the lack of it when its lettarly everywhere I go
Except manga has whole genres like yaoi that are purposely devoted to prominently explore and deal with LGBTQ stuffs. You won't be overwhelmed with gender or sex orientation issues while you read shounens or majority of seinens. That's the difference with western comics, nobody is really seeking to read about Superman, Batman etc... and at the same time being preached asf about LGBTQ matters or whatever agenda but Marvel & DC don't want to understand that lol.
It would be way smarter and better if the Big 2 create a LGBTQ section 🤷🏾♂️.
@@rybackfrankie8679 I find it hard to believe that they don't get it, it seems to be more believable that they understand but still choose to double down
@@DevilRaptorB Maybe... well bruh, I never underestimate the extent of the delusion of people or how much they can tell themselves stories or lies to themselves. Especially people who are "on mission", fight for a cause or "to spread a message" before everything : The activists. And it seems the industry is too much of these people right now. They don't really want to adapt to the market but they want the market to adapt to them 🤷🏾♂️.
They will keep on going, no matter what, until a breaking point or until the very people who actually control money within the industry and the shareholders get rid of them following some kind of bankruptcy.
@@rybackfrankie8679 I much rather honestly they remain in delusion Zone, the faster they burn the better for indie creators, look at Eric July, if there was one factor that is helping him is that these companies like DC and Marvel are helping him out but shooting themselves on the foot again and again
@@DevilRaptorB Oh, they are really helping the Rippaverse and I have the feeling they'll help others as well in a very near future lol. I know that one of DC & Marvel favorite tactics is to buy the competition in order to bury it 6ft under but it's unlikely to happen right now because nowadays and helped by the technology, people/creators are way too business minded, and they know too well how much valuable is an I.P, especially when it comes to multimedia adaptations with all these platforms etc... Everybody knows there is a lot of profit to make so very few would sell their I.P.
Eric July and the other indies won't make Jim Lee's huge mistake when he sold Wildstorm to DC. The Rippaverse unexpected success, the enthusiasm and the buzz around it speaks volume. Anyway, I have always thought that the future of the comic book industry is tied to the indies.
Write One Piece manga review in youtube search and see how many views there are. Also take a look at the demographics, manga is read by young people, women and black people. Comics are purely read by older white boomers whom the writers actually hate. Whose fault it is for losing all these demographics, I have no idea but manga and anime is definitely VERY popular with more demographics than comics.
Catering to older white men would be a great business model, but DC/Marvel are too dumb to cater to anyone but broke, commie Twitter activists.
My worry is that like the American comic book and film industry, manga will become complacent in it's own success and fall to both infiltration and loss of identity in an ill advised attempt to appeal to the widest market possible. The global market. See American films becoming homogenous and boring in an attempt to pander to the Chinese market, or the american comic books attempting to expand their market to people with different values by appealing to everyone except their original fans.
I don't need to tell you that Manga and anime have a lot of content in them that even now is under a lot of scrutiny. A lot of them have extreme violence and taboo sexual subject matter as central plot points. (see the controversies over Goblin Slayer, Redo Of Healer, My Dress Up Darling, Uzaki-Chan, ) Stuff that while it does give Japanese entertainment a unique identity, is only one stupid conservative or woke politician away from being censored or outright banned. Like Australias conservative party did to certain anime and manga titles in 2016. And even if censorship from the us government isn't a problem. What's to say Japanese creators wont start self censoring their art in an attempt to appeal to the entire world that doesn't have Japans values on these particular topics. Like the video game industry did during the GG controversy?
The Japanese are smart.... they won't F*** it up for themselves!
@@MutantGenius That's what they were saying about video games in 2013, then the woke wars began.
@@tommyfishhouse8050 Wokeness is on a slow decline, and free speech is on the rise now...It's slowly being witnessed in a lot of previously stifled places.
Woke is a bad dream, good thing people are starting to wake up.
I’m quite worrying about Comic industry, can’t these bastards learn anything to change their own grim conditions.
Dc comics and marvel comics
The story never ends
To this day i dont know the ending of superman stroyline
I do not read a lot of manga , YET! But I have be reading comics since I was 6, back in 1972 ! Yup 1972 not a typo. And I have almost stopped reading all of the marvel and dc titles because of all of the race and gender swapping, along with the gay representation being forced in the comics! Not to mention the overwhelming political messaging. I read comics to escape all of the stuff going on around me, not to be slapped in the face with it. This is what the American comics companies are doing. Just driving the readership in hordes to manga. And I for one am about ready to join the hordes.
With what Marvels doing to MJ and Spidey right now I'm gonna quit. MJ is with Paul and Spidey is a loner...mim sorry who wanted this?! Didn't you learn from One More Day, Marvel?! It if weren't for Renew your Vows, I'd quick a long time ago!
At this point, I don’t think western comics, especially marvel and dc, are ever going to make it to the same level of manga, they will still sell a lot of comics and make a lot of money, but manga is already taking over and unless some insane growth happens in the next couple of years, which let’s not kid ourselves the chances of that are incredibly slim, it will eventually become completely irrelevant.
Manga is cheaper, filled with a lot of genres, and they know how to make interesting characters. They are cool, fun and entertaining.
The biggest headscratcher for anyone with any sense should be how Marvel and DC are looking at single Manga series outselling the entire american comics market and just... not doing anything.
Copy the distribution model? Nope.
Copy the creative process? Nope.
When I see Marvel and DC not following Viz Media with their online approach, it just baffles me. The only logical conclusion is that they are incredibly stupid or going out of their way to leave money on the table- it's a no brainer!
I'm betting that Manga don't engage in gimmicks like 37 variant covers for the one issue either.
Oh, and maybe if the good people at the Big Two got off Twitter for 5 minutes they just might get around to putting out a good product.
Rant over 😓
I can't even think of an app DC and Marvel use for subscription services. I think I remember DC had something, forgot the name, but it's ideal on paper, but it was terrible at launch. Just limited choices in comics, and streaming movies and shows was abysmal.
Honestly, people mention the plague, but MCU was THE big thing for 11 years, and they somehow failed to capitalize. Seriously, it should've been impossible for them to screw that up, but they did it. MHA and OPM did a better job capitalizing on the MCU than Marvel.
On another note, despite being a battle shounen, Inuyasha is regularly referred to as Dragon Ball for girls, and yeah. It kinda is. I still love it, though.
Too bad Yashahime sucks.
America knew how to do it well. Japan figured out how to do it better, smaller, faster and cheaper.
This applies to 95% of everything we consume, now going on 50 years. Sorry not sorry.
Shinji knows that Manga is [not] going anywhere. My Psycho Pass allows me entry to the manga store. It's all ORA ORA ORA or nothing. I gotta catch them all. Yes, law abiding citizen, purchase manga at a PLUS ULTRA rate. If only I had OVER 9000 dollars to make purchases. Eren takes a bite out of the Marvel market.