Not expecting 1080p video but at least 720p I didn't notice these videos in low def because I usually watch them on an iPad but I watched this particular video in the living Room on a 50" plasma so I noticed the quality difference, keep in mind I am not complaining about the shows I would like to have a higher quality video so I can watch it on other devices like my htpc. Keep up the good work I have a 65 fastback restored 10 years ago and really like seeing all the stuff you guys are doing bec
I totally under stand thank for response....not to sound like an ass but a donation button would go along way, I like what you guys are doing and would participate
@TaZoK172 Thanks for the kind words! There will be a section on patching in the next segment up next Thursday. If you look in the trunk of the Firebird there are brackets that are spot welded to the quarter where the bumper wraps around and bolts. Gary cut that section out so that he could deal with it independently. As we've said before, sometimes our videos expose that the project may be something that you just don't want to tackle. Better to learn that on here...than in the garage.
Ron, we are going to pick up an A/C system at Vintage Air while we do their Universal A/C kit. We'll do another install that is complete. The car at Ray's had to leave before we could get the engine bay stuff. We'll be able to control the install better since it is a friends car.
i am up to this point at the moment but i will be going to do the full quarter not just the skin on my 68 dart , i have stripped the car down to a bare shell and now it is time to well replace everything bar the floor lol , well its bad but i love this model , keep the video's coming :)
@raaaaaa We know what you mean about the quality on the larger formats. We're looking into going higher def our only problem is our residential DSL connection. As it is the files take an hour or more to upload. And yeah we know we can walk away however we like keeping an eye on it while it "cooks" since we've had them stop uploading before. We'll continue to do testing and see if we can come up with a resolution that won't break the time bank but gives better buck bang. Thanks for the input!
Hey guys great video! the only thing i would like to ask is more step by step like the start of the clip with the tape, later on the video with all the grinding and after the removal of the skin you just fast forwarded other getting into details how to clean and patch right the metal. Another issue is i didn't understand what he did to the rear mount. I have to say i watched the video and i'm still not confident to go and remove the quarter on my 69 Firebird.
We know this will sound cryptic but that depends.Much of it will have to do with other factors (wheel house replacement etc.) as well as the experience and skills of the shop. It will also depend on where you are, US vs. Europe vs. Australia etc.
Another great video guys!! Thats the exact same way I did my quarter panel on my 68 firebird, well other then the plasma cutter, I had to do it the hard way lol Hey just woundering if you can show everybody on the part 2 video where the drain is on the inside of the lower front quarter panel just behind the door, and the percautions there are so you don't plug them up when doing a job like this!
@ElderlyIron Thanks Elder, the intro is new as of episode 41. Al had the doughnut after the root canal. All we'll say about our pal Al is: Some people never learn....
@raaaaaa, we load in low def because our upload speed is pretty poor. It would take us over two hours to get this loaded with a high def. We're working toward being able to do that, but alas for now we're stuck in low gear.
I will give a "for instance" Mustang Central charges $1250 for a quarter skin. Others will say that is high, some will say that is low. It is up to you to find a shop that makes you comfortable with the cost vs. quality.
What he said: Not really professional about plasma cutter, why he does not use a 1mm cutting disc? No treatment needed. Our response: Plasma cutters are just plain faster. We've used cut off wheels before and they are time suckers. In a production shop time is money. Especially when the customer is not wanting to spend much money!
Thanks for the kind words atour, go to our web site (listed in the "about" section) and send us a pic via our contact page and we'll look at it and let you know. Trying to say yes right now would only short change your results!
@AutoRestoMod Ya that little hole just at the bottom of the quarter glass section just below the inner nut for the door striker. I don't have any pictures though, but your camera did pass by it on the video.
i see people using wire wheels to clean minor rust alot. Its actually a big no no while it may appear that you have cleaned up the rust, you are doing more harm than good. Wire wheels will actually beat rust particles into the metal only to come back with vengeance later. Always grind, blast, or chemically strip rust.
Replacing the quarter panel on the 1969 camaro would be the same as replacing the quarter panel on a 1967 camaro right? Great video by the way, very helpful
Yes but get the panels that go over the top edge and go 2 inches over. That is the best way. Having the weld line on the outside like that will have a lot of warpage.
On the Camaro ac system, did you have a video with the finished parts all installed. I would like to learn more about this system for the eairly Camaros. Do you still need a firewall mounted blower, and an ac compressor for this unit. thanks in advance. Jeff 69 Camaro project.
thanx for the videos, i'm in the process of restoring my 69 camaro, gonna replace the quarter skins but on the driver side it took a nasty blow before i got it, looks like the panel in the truck behind the lower quarter next to the side maker cut out is all mangled, is that piece structural or just a simple panel i can replace?
Flange is an amazing word,like gusset. Makes you feel good just saying them without sounding like a double entendres! " nice flange" ample gusset " " hammer on the flange" " make sure gusset is secure before going any further"- stop giggling at the back!!!
The panel and the inner wheel house were pretty rusty around the wheel hose. And the owner was not willing to pay for the additional cost of the full quarter.
I have a question, when welding the quarter panel into the camaro how does it attached to the tail panel? i mean in the rear lower part it goes behind the tail panel do you weld from the insideinder the car? or how does it attach there? thanks love your page
POLLUSKY Wow, that was about four years ago. What we'd recommend is to dry fit and see where it attaches. That is how we'd handle that.Usually you can tell where a welding flange is if you pop the panel up over the existing.
Ya, iget it every one loves their toys but, A air hammer and the right bit works like a knife going through butter without sparks and clean ! Gaurenteed it would been off before he could have got the toppart cut and no worry to glass, carpet, seats,which all in iterior should be stripped on a good restore to a car .... at least that is what I saw in another video
From Jeff: I've used both and if I have a choice I'll use the plasma for this kind of stuff. But to each his own. Well the welding would require the car to be covered as shown. Plus this isn't a full restoration, the owner was interested in saving money, not going all out. Some folks don't want to go all out and that was what we were showing here. a way to do it without doing it all.
Plasma kotters zijn gewoon sneller. Wij hebben afgesneden wielen voor en ze zijn tijd sukkels. In een productiehal tijd is geld. Vooral wanneer de klant niet wil veel geld uitgeven! Als de vertaling verkeerd schuld Google.
@Rasd4Metta We show replacing the section of the rail that has a hole in it; is that what you are talking about? Being a little short on Camaro knowledge if you could send a pic to us we'd appreciate it. jford (at symbol) autorestomod dot c o m
Thats a hack job....why would you not drill out the outer wheel well spot welds...that would have been easier than the cut and paste job you guys went with....there is only one way to do a quarter panel replacement correctly and that's to install a full quarter onto the factory spot weld seams....when I do a quarter panel replacement I tell my customers to buy full quarters or take it some place else.
Yep. Totally agree, accept when I don't. The customer was told this and still wanted to do a skin job. Another point is that whole quarters are not easier on some cars some whole quarters are not as nice as we'd like them to be. It is all a matter of what the customer wants/what the customer can afford.
@@AutoRestoMod yeah I get what you are saying...you have a valid point...i try to avoid classic car jobs unless the money is really good and it's a fairly easy job...i usually do one or two a year but I try to stick to collision repairs....classic collector cars have to be "perfect" or as close as possible....when I started my body shop I took every job that came my way and most were custom jobs that I did for way to cheap.....took me awhile to learn that custom/classic jobs tie up my bays and eat up time and materials....i could do 4 or five collision repairs in the amount of time it takes to get one custom/classic job finished....plus as you well know a collision repair doesn't necessarily have to be 100 % perfect...so long as the panels line up and the color is a good match, it won't matter if the core support has a few ripples..or high spot welds...or its slightly out of position...you just ream the holes out so your parts have a little more room to drift around in order to get the body lines right...or instead of replacing a dented panel like you would on a classic...you can just pull it as much as possible with pegs and a slide hammer and hide it with filler....mso forgive me for using the term "hack job" because when it comes to collision repairs I've done my fair share of hack jobs and short cuts too! But on classics I always do it as correctly as possible...id rather spend a day installing a full quarter panel than three days patching it...welding it...grinding it....filling it....blocking it....guide coating it ....blocking it again...etc etc....too many jobs like that would put me out of business.
This video is seven years old. Things are different now, a reality TV star is President, I am older, uglier and wiser (hmmm on the personal front two out of three isn't bad) and yet, I still like this video. My biggest gripe is how the upload seemed to "pop" the volume of the music. It was much quieter before I uploaded it. As for the talking, a goodly portion was explaining in voice over.
I did this same removal on a 68 camaro using an electric jig saw with a metal cutting blade. Cheap, and noisy. Worked fine for a one off project. Jeff
Not expecting 1080p video but at least 720p I didn't notice these videos in low def because I usually watch them on an iPad but I watched this particular video in the living Room on a 50" plasma so I noticed the quality difference, keep in mind I am not complaining about the shows I would like to have a higher quality video so I can watch it on other devices like my htpc. Keep up the good work I have a 65 fastback restored 10 years ago and really like seeing all the stuff you guys are doing bec
I totally under stand thank for response....not to sound like an ass but a donation button would go along way, I like what you guys are doing and would participate
@TaZoK172 Thanks for the kind words! There will be a section on patching in the next segment up next Thursday. If you look in the trunk of the Firebird there are brackets that are spot welded to the quarter where the bumper wraps around and bolts. Gary cut that section out so that he could deal with it independently.
As we've said before, sometimes our videos expose that the project may be something that you just don't want to tackle. Better to learn that on here...than in the garage.
Ron, we are going to pick up an A/C system at Vintage Air while we do their Universal A/C kit. We'll do another install that is complete. The car at Ray's had to leave before we could get the engine bay stuff. We'll be able to control the install better since it is a friends car.
@vcval We've done a full quarter on a Mustang and that is a real job! Good luck with it.
i am up to this point at the moment but i will be going to do the full quarter not just the skin on my 68 dart , i have stripped the car down to a bare shell and now it is time to well replace everything bar the floor lol , well its bad but i love this model , keep the video's coming :)
@raaaaaa We know what you mean about the quality on the larger formats. We're looking into going higher def our only problem is our residential DSL connection. As it is the files take an hour or more to upload. And yeah we know we can walk away however we like keeping an eye on it while it "cooks" since we've had them stop uploading before.
We'll continue to do testing and see if we can come up with a resolution that won't break the time bank but gives better buck bang. Thanks for the input!
Hey guys great video! the only thing i would like to ask is more step by step like the start of the clip with the tape, later on the video with all the grinding and after the removal of the skin you just fast forwarded other getting into details how to clean and patch right the metal.
Another issue is i didn't understand what he did to the rear mount.
I have to say i watched the video and i'm still not confident to go and remove the quarter on my 69 Firebird.
We know this will sound cryptic but that depends.Much of it will have to do with other factors (wheel house replacement etc.) as well as the experience and skills of the shop. It will also depend on where you are, US vs. Europe vs. Australia etc.
Yes. It gives them some work room for the panel as well.
Another great video guys!! Thats the exact same way I did my quarter panel on my 68 firebird, well other then the plasma cutter, I had to do it the hard way lol
Hey just woundering if you can show everybody on the part 2 video where the drain is on the inside of the lower front quarter panel just behind the door, and the percautions there are so you don't plug them up when doing a job like this!
@ElderlyIron Thanks Elder, the intro is new as of episode 41. Al had the doughnut after the root canal. All we'll say about our pal Al is: Some people never learn....
@raaaaaa, we load in low def because our upload speed is pretty poor. It would take us over two hours to get this loaded with a high def. We're working toward being able to do that, but alas for now we're stuck in low gear.
Yeah, there are a couple of ways to do this cut out. Thanks for the tip ron!
@Rasd4Metta I'll try to point that out in the next video. Thanks for the heads up Ras!
I've used a hack saw blade mounted on a jig saw to cut metal panels in the past. :)
I will give a "for instance" Mustang Central charges $1250 for a quarter skin. Others will say that is high, some will say that is low. It is up to you to find a shop that makes you comfortable with the cost vs. quality.
What he said: Not really professional about plasma cutter, why he does not use a 1mm cutting disc? No treatment needed.
Our response: Plasma cutters are just plain faster. We've used cut off wheels before and they are time suckers. In a production shop time is money. Especially when the customer is not wanting to spend much money!
Plasma cutters rule/ . After i got my Hypertherm i was restoring 1 car a year. I have 4 camaro's now.
Air chisel with a crows foot bit cuts a lot faster and only cuts about 8th inch deep. And won’t burn your car down.
To each his own. I can see your point.
Thanks for the kind words atour, go to our web site (listed in the "about" section) and send us a pic via our contact page and we'll look at it and let you know. Trying to say yes right now would only short change your results!
@AutoRestoMod Ya that little hole just at the bottom of the quarter glass section just below the inner nut for the door striker. I don't have any pictures though, but your camera did pass by it on the video.
i see people using wire wheels to clean minor rust alot. Its actually a big no no while it may appear that you have cleaned up the rust, you are doing more harm than good. Wire wheels will actually beat rust particles into the metal only to come back with vengeance later. Always grind, blast, or chemically strip rust.
Replacing the quarter panel on the 1969 camaro would be the same as replacing the quarter panel on a 1967 camaro right? Great video by the way, very helpful
Yes but get the panels that go over the top edge and go 2 inches over. That is the best way. Having the weld line on the outside like that will have a lot of warpage.
On the Camaro ac system, did you have a video with the finished parts all installed. I would like to learn more about this system for the eairly Camaros. Do you still need a firewall mounted blower, and an ac compressor for this unit. thanks in advance. Jeff 69 Camaro project.
thanx for the videos, i'm in the process of restoring my 69 camaro, gonna replace the quarter skins but on the driver side it took a nasty blow before i got it, looks like the panel in the truck behind the lower quarter next to the side maker cut out is all mangled, is that piece structural or just a simple panel i can replace?
Flange is an amazing word,like gusset. Makes you feel good just saying them without sounding like a double entendres! " nice flange" ample gusset " " hammer on the flange" " make sure gusset is secure before going any further"- stop giggling at the back!!!
HAHAHA yeah. there is a bit o that around here when the lads hear us say things like be sure to tighten the nuts...
The panel and the inner wheel house were pretty rusty around the wheel hose. And the owner was not willing to pay for the additional cost of the full quarter.
I have a question, when welding the quarter panel into the camaro how does it attached to the tail panel? i mean in the rear lower part it goes behind the tail panel do you weld from the insideinder the car? or how does it attach there? thanks love your page
POLLUSKY Wow, that was about four years ago. What we'd recommend is to dry fit and see where it attaches. That is how we'd handle that.Usually you can tell where a welding flange is if you pop the panel up over the existing.
Any reason you replaced the entire piece? Not just the area you needed?
There was a lot of body filler in the quarter.
Might be a good idea to remove the glass.
Nice new intro. Or is that an old intro and I haven't been watching for a while? Say, did Al have his root canal before of AFTER the donut?
You guys rock thank you!
One question on average how much will it cost to get a quarter panel replace on a mechanic??
Ya, iget it every one loves their toys but, A air hammer and the right bit works like a knife going through butter without sparks and clean ! Gaurenteed it would been off before he could have got the toppart cut and no worry to glass, carpet, seats,which all in iterior should be stripped on a good restore to a car .... at least that is what I saw in another video
From Jeff: I've used both and if I have a choice I'll use the plasma for this kind of stuff. But to each his own. Well the welding would require the car to be covered as shown. Plus this isn't a full restoration, the owner was interested in saving money, not going all out. Some folks don't want to go all out and that was what we were showing here. a way to do it without doing it all.
What kind of flange tool do you use?
Kickass
Thanks!
thanks guys
what was wrong with the original quarter panel
Quarter inch bondo
Sorry why are you cutting off a good panel?
Plasma kotters zijn gewoon sneller. Wij hebben afgesneden wielen voor en ze zijn tijd sukkels. In een productiehal tijd is geld. Vooral wanneer de klant niet wil veel geld uitgeven!
Als de vertaling verkeerd schuld Google.
I can see why your customers don't want to pay much money.
@Rasd4Metta We show replacing the section of the rail that has a hole in it; is that what you are talking about? Being a little short on Camaro knowledge if you could send a pic to us we'd appreciate it. jford (at symbol) autorestomod dot c o m
only plays in lodef 360p
@raaaaaa LOL Honestly, we never considered a donate button. Nor do you sound like an ass we'll look into the button.
Thats a hack job....why would you not drill out the outer wheel well spot welds...that would have been easier than the cut and paste job you guys went with....there is only one way to do a quarter panel replacement correctly and that's to install a full quarter onto the factory spot weld seams....when I do a quarter panel replacement I tell my customers to buy full quarters or take it some place else.
Yep. Totally agree, accept when I don't. The customer was told this and still wanted to do a skin job. Another point is that whole quarters are not easier on some cars some whole quarters are not as nice as we'd like them to be. It is all a matter of what the customer wants/what the customer can afford.
@@AutoRestoMod yeah I get what you are saying...you have a valid point...i try to avoid classic car jobs unless the money is really good and it's a fairly easy job...i usually do one or two a year but I try to stick to collision repairs....classic collector cars have to be "perfect" or as close as possible....when I started my body shop I took every job that came my way and most were custom jobs that I did for way to cheap.....took me awhile to learn that custom/classic jobs tie up my bays and eat up time and materials....i could do 4 or five collision repairs in the amount of time it takes to get one custom/classic job finished....plus as you well know a collision repair doesn't necessarily have to be 100 % perfect...so long as the panels line up and the color is a good match, it won't matter if the core support has a few ripples..or high spot welds...or its slightly out of position...you just ream the holes out so your parts have a little more room to drift around in order to get the body lines right...or instead of replacing a dented panel like you would on a classic...you can just pull it as much as possible with pegs and a slide hammer and hide it with filler....mso forgive me for using the term "hack job" because when it comes to collision repairs I've done my fair share of hack jobs and short cuts too! But on classics I always do it as correctly as possible...id rather spend a day installing a full quarter panel than three days patching it...welding it...grinding it....filling it....blocking it....guide coating it ....blocking it again...etc etc....too many jobs like that would put me out of business.
less talking more showing...
This video is seven years old. Things are different now, a reality TV star is President, I am older, uglier and wiser (hmmm on the personal front two out of three isn't bad) and yet, I still like this video. My biggest gripe is how the upload seemed to "pop" the volume of the music. It was much quieter before I uploaded it. As for the talking, a goodly portion was explaining in voice over.