Who else thought that the reason why it couldn't be transported simply was because it would act like a magnet and destroy the surrounding iron infrastructure in the city
I think you needed to mention that this is an ELECTROmagnet. If it was a regular "permanent" magnet, it'd never have made it out the building without taking many lives with it.
I figured it was an electromagnet. But I'm wondering why an electromagnet would cost $30 million to make. It seems like a big coil of wire would be much cheaper than that. There must be some very expensive optimization involved.
I was part of the crew that was responsible for moving a nuclear reactor and associated machinery in Washington state back in the early 1980’s. The reactor was shipped from Chattanooga Tennessee by barge through the Panama Canal and then north along the Pacific Ocean into Grays Harbor and up the Chehalis River to the Satsop Nuclear Power Plant. A new heavy duty barge dock had to be built to offload the structures and then special crawlers used to move it into place at the construction site. All of this was part of my apprenticeship before I reached the legal drinking age, (21), in Washington state. And that was just one of the many incredible jobs I participated in as a young man while working in construction.
That's really quite amazing. Of course, the irony is that the Satsop power plant site is abandoned...but at least the concrete towers make for a great photo op. And if I recall correctly, one of the books discussing the potential for a major Cascadia earthquake talked about that plant led to the discovery of subduction zone earthquakes.
I haven’t been to Chattanooga in over 10 years and it’s only 3 hours away I can’t imagine moving that all the way to Washington that seems so far away though that’s also because I rarely travel out of state in fact only up until Montgomery Alabama west wise ;-;
My physics professor was actually on the team who helped move this ring, i believe he said it was actually a superconductor whose main responsibility is to study the wobble of particles called muons. The craziest part about this move is what the public originally thought about this ring! When they were transporting it out of brookhaven it had to be at night so they could close the highways, people are very suspicious of brookhaven in general so many spread the rumor across long island and most of the us that they had seen a ufo come out of the labs. as you can see in the video the superconductor very much so looks like a ufo especially when it’s in its contraption! Still can’t believe my physics prof was a main contributor towards this project
That super massive crane you mentioned is actually very tiny. I work in the petroleum industry and we recently did a lift of 2200 MT reactor using a Sarens 3200MT crane. So yeah, 17T is absolutely not massive.
I had no idea there was a navigable waterway from Mobile back to the Mississippi. I traced it back, it goes from the Mobile River, to the Tombigbee, to the Tennessee, to the Ohio. I assumed based on the barge path around Florida they planned to just go up the Mississippi the whole way.
Yeah the Mobile river and the Mississippi river system are not naturally linked. It's likely some canals were used along the path in Alabama or Tennessee
@@Electifried the whole east coast is an island surrounded by the mississippi river, great lakes, and st lawrence. You could sail up the mississippi and go all the way around to the atlantic, down the east coast, around florida, and back to the mouth of the mississippi.
that wouldve happened if they didnt disconnect the two wires sticking out from the entire structure from the 2 Duracell AA batteries in the battery box..
Funny story about this magnet: A small group of people and I once got a special tour of the muon-g2 experiment from the project lead. During this tour he told us about how they found the superconducting ring was after they first purchased it from the brookhaven lab but before they transported it. Apparently, a family of raccoons and mice had made a home in the insulation around the magnet over the years that it was out of service. So before they could move it, they sent something like a week taking the insulation off and cleaning all the feces and junk the mice and raccoons left behind. He said it was one of the worst smells.
Light Solver, Thanks for that ! B-) Did he mention the price they paid for the "$30M" 17 Ton Magnet ? Someone else in the comments claims to report that the transportation cost was $3M The video makes it sound like it was "free for the taking" ?
@@solarnaut No, the video made it seem like the transportation would be lower than actually building it. Your listening comprehension is just lacking. I agree though that he could've mentioned the transportation cost. :)
Not even just "Hell yea, science" but ALSO "hell yea, human cooperation" Like holy hell every single person involved in this requires a ncie big pat on the back and a drink for getting this from point A to Point B
@Millennial Smark That's contractual. They were obligated to do it. The pat on the back is a way of expressing gratitude. It is something extra. This is why tips are also called "gratuities". In some lines of work (waiters, for example), it is somehow acceptable to ask the customer to pay part of the wage, and I don't understand why this is. But anyway, my overall point is that it pisses me off how people who drive for a living (and people who do a trade in general) are so often underpaid and treated like they are disposable. Without them, we'd be nowhere.
I can see Fermilab right out of my back window. Super trippy hearing my town name and the lab in a popular video. They’d take us there on field trips to see the buffalo or ox (I can’t remember) they have grazing the property and they’d also have career fairs inside the main building. Having them explain how the particle accelerator worked when I was in middle school pushed me to a career in science. Excellent video, though, I hadn’t heard about this event when it happened.
I clicked on the video because I saw Fermilab on the thumbnail, I've visited this place so many times as a kid, although it's been a couple years since I've been back
Imagine getting stuck in traffic behind that! The weirdest traffic I’ve ever been in was getting stuck behind a plane. It was a small plane (like 4-6 passengers probably) but it was just driving down the road. I have no idea where they were going, and they didn’t have a police escort so I don’t know if they were really supposed to be there, but they were just driving like a car down the road…
Craziest thing for me was a pretty decent sized two story house! I was working construction at this one block for about two to three weeks this summer. After about 1 week of work I’m over at my truck about to take a lunch break when I realize that what used to be a four way intersection turned into a three way. That was quite confusing until I realized that there was a full size house in the middle of the street on a trailer. It must’ve stretched from curb to curb
The coolest thing I've seen on the road was a retired Blue Angel jet dismantled on the back of a semi leaving Pensacola. Pretty weird to see that thing on the ground after watching it fly at 400 miles per hour just a few months earlier
Oh my god I remember running across this thing when my mom was driving me somewhere that day. Always stuck with me as something that was just plain weird, glad to finally find out what the hell it was all about
@@40rollsonly I mean I remember pretty damn clearly being out on LI and getting stuck for like half an hour because of this massive fucking magnet crossing the road lmao
I don't think it would be that hard actually there are several materials that would shield the effects. However that was certainly implied by the title and thumbnail
@@calebreutener870 "there are several materials that would shield the effects" What materials? I can only think of superconducting materials but that doesn't very easy. Are there others?
I actually didn’t know that “empty” land east of the tri-cities (Batavia, Geneva, St. Charles) was a lab. Every time I visit my cousins we pass by that area to get there (Using Kirk Rd west of the land)
Wait. I live in Lockport by the Erie canal. That barge would not have fit in the Erie canal. I wonder if the barge would've also been too big for the St. Lawrence river or even the locks at St. Sault Marie, MI or something.
@@ericonion3561 yeah. I came here to see street lights groaning under their own weight and someone getting pulled across the street by the car keys in their pocket.
You should make video about how was moved a gothic style church in Most, Czech Republic in Socialist Czechoslovakia in 1975 for about 2 km by rails. It's really interesting topic :)
Native Long Islander here . . . The map that shows where the magnet started shows the Village of Brookhaven, which is not where the magnet originated. Brookhaven National Lab is 15 miles north of there, in the Hamlet of Upton, in Brookhaven Township. If you look up Upton, Long Island in a satellite view you can find the lab by finding the circular footprint of the particle accelerator ring!
I was born in Lemont, IL. My Grandfather was in charge of the engineering division of Fermi Lab in the 90s. Big shame it means nothing now though since he left his fortune to my father who wasted it all on cocaine, ruining the family forever. This was a kind of nostalgic video for me, thanks.
@@BenjaminGoose In my dialect of english (I live in NW USA) that's a common little embellishment that often implies some tone of skepticism, and is also just a filler. I often say that out loud but I guess in written text it's not as affective
Coming from the heavy haul industry, those cranes aren’t massive. A massive crane is one that is assembled by two cranes you called massive and 40 plus flatbed loads of components.
I agree, this is some serious hyperbole! There have probably been larger houses that have been moved further distances where there wasn't a Port and a navigable waterway within 30 miles of pick-up and drop-off....smh
@@JimmyNewCakes honestly I struggle to think of smaller cranes! I know some truck cranes are pretty small, but the one shown was definitely a small or medium one at most, I think.
It’s crazy to see this pop back up. I was working for the forest preserve district of dupage county at the time and helped remove the signs at the preserve where it parked one of the days (can see the forest preserve sign on the left hand side at 4:39). They were only allowing the public to see it from across the street but since I worked for the park district I was able to get a picture right next to it and talk to the truck driver about how they transported it. Each wheel was on individual controls so they could make small adjustments if needed as they were pulling it down the road. Pretty crazy how much effort went in to transporting it.
Did you happen to change any forest preserve signs in Bartlett on the northern side of Dupage? I live right next to a Dupage county forest preserve here and I remember them changing the signs when I was a kid
@@MegaMozozo I did not do those ones specifically. I grew up in Bartlett so I know which one you’re talking about but I was a part of the East division of the forest preserve so only worked on those preserves.
Im actually from the town of Brookhaven on Long Island and i remember all of this happening it was a big deal. Theres actually a particle accelerator at brookhaven national lab ("RHIC"). Thats a real interesting topic as well, its so large you can see it from damn near space.
@@mathildamurray2622 But it's not so it shouldn't be said to be. Maybe you should look in a dictionary to find out what ludicrous actually means given that the crane used was basically the next size up from a lego crane
The fact so many people were excited enough about a "nerd" thing like "just a big magnet" to show up and watch the truck go by is one of the few aspects of humanity that give me faith. People today are very science and knowledge forward.
Being a life long Long Islander, I need to clarify something that you have - Brookhaven National Lab is a straight shot down the William Floyd Parkway, not the twisty route that you have. You keep referencing the center of the town of Brookhaven, not the location of the lab - Which is actually closer to Middle Island, and on the grounds of the former Camp Upton. The shot down the Floyd, while being pretty straight, also dealt with the overpass for the LIE. It was a much LONGER driver than what you have pictured.
This dude has a history of being both: A: Inaccurate on information. And B: 'Add-baiting' people with a lack on information. I mean just look at that whole point from 5:24 on. The whole 'Do you wonder how magnets work? Well here's a paywall from the sponsor.' just makes this channel not even worth the bandwidth it takes up.
2:24 _"For these reasons, FEDEX and UPS refused to help out with the move."_ No wonder, coming from companies that bend packages with a "DO NOT BEND OR FOLD" warning on them.
Believe it or not, when this move happened, I lived in Lockport, a few miles southwest of Lemont. And somehow I don't remember it happening, but it's nuts to realize that it did happen so close to home.
Large transports are generally not publicized, probably for security reason but IDK. Publicizing them would help the public with planning, but does not help the people doing the move at all so they probably just don't care.
Well I lived in Shirley NY and 1 mile from Smith point Marine and I don't even remember this i now live in Nashville TN but I was there in June WHEN this took place but again I don't remember it
Don’t feel bad. I lived in Aurora in a neighborhood directly south of Fermilab. The truck likely passed within 200 yards of my house and I also had no clue that it happened.
Cool video. I work on a tow boat pushing barges on the coast and rivers. I've been all over from Mobile to Brownsville and up the Mississippi to St Paul and the Illinois river to Chicago. People don't know just how important our inland river system is for the American economy. I've seen all kinds of stuff moved by barge including military and NASA hardware. I wish more TH-camrs did videos on the Mississippi and other inland waterways.
I was surprised to see that route... I guessed there would be a northern waterway... but I just now learned, that Chicago isn't connected to the ocean (by ship).
It doesn't suck. I work in trucking and planning loads is the best part of the Job. I would have loved to plan this move, not to mention the $$$ that it would pay is making my mouth water lmao. Harder the job, greater the payout.
I was at Fermilab when the magnet arrived, and have a good friend who works on the experiment that uses it. One of the scientists involved with the experiment said that they went to Alabama or Tennessee to watch it go past on the barge. While there, they saw a road sign with bullet holes in it and had a minor freak out worrying that somebody might have taken potshots at the magnet while it was going past on the barge. Luckily, if anyone did, they missed.
I feel very hopeful from this video. The amount of effort that was taken to not only create this but to transport it with the amount of care so that it would not be damaged simply tells me that yes “we want to make the world a better place through research and science“ and that makes me feel so much hope for our current world.
No mention how much it cost to move the magnet vs. the $30M price tag of a new one. Especially with the not insignificant possibility of damaging the old magnet. All the people, machines, fuel, engineering, etc. = how much $$?
0:37 as someone who lives on long LI, I can say that, in fact, the suburban roads of Long Island will not under any circumstances accept anything more than an inch wider than the road.
3:17 "...where it was then loaded up onto a waiting barge by a ludicrously massive crane." Practical Engineering wants to have a word with you about what really constitutes a ludicrously massive crane.
yea in some line anything below 50 metric ton is considered usual day to day and need not covered by special procedures (it will be safely performed but just day to day SOP will suffice)
I remember being at fermilab that day to see the magnet's arrival. Been trying to find myself in that crowd picture for a few minutes now. Really neat to see a video on something I witnessed.
I live in Illinois near Lemont and I remember them stopping this thing in front of the local movie theatre so everyone could take pictures of it and stuff. I think about this every now and then because I wondered how often something like this had to be moved down the road like this.
I was at Fermilab 10 years ago - it was awesome. Everyone should go visit that place :D The building reminds me of the Atari logo. Inside is like a late 70s University building, but "modern"
@@GoblinUrNuts I still have a negative of a subatomic particle they "smashed" - It did seem even a bit dated then, I wonder if they've modernized it. When things calm down and my son is older, a re-visit is in order :)
Reminds me of watching them move giant windmill blades. The trailers are super long as the blades are 150 ft long. Even the tires on the trailer turn in order to make corners. All of this with a police escort of course who would also have police set up at certain intersection ahead ready to shut down lanes and block traffic.
I saw a few when I lived in the Netherlands I was shocked the first time I saw one on the road I didn't realise they were so huge Looked larger than some commercial planes I've been on
Yeah. I live near a factory where they make a lot, if not most or all (in the US), of those windmill blades. They are a pain in everyone's ass and they've basically just consumed a couple of smaller highways out here.
@@stefan514 the problem with an electromagnet however is that you need to keep it in perfect conditions the entire trip, of which those perfect conditions are keeping it completely flat. the width also is a big issue too. but who cares about all that anyway, it's cool to hear about a large moving project regardless of whatever other ones there are.
There was another similar, maybe even more spectacular transport in Germany: it was a large Vacuum Tank for some sort of Tritium Experiment conducted at the Karlsruhe Institute of Technology, which was produced in Deggendorf, both in Southern Germany. The direct route by car is approximately 4.5 hours, but they transported it via the Danube River into the Black Sea, through the Bosporus straight in Istanbul into the Mediterranean ond from there on through the Straight of Gibraltar, the Atlantic Ocean and the English Channel to the port of Rotterdam and, finally up the Rhine River. Instead of a 350 km distance, the length of the whole sea Route was approximately 8600 km...
Maybe, but this is 'Murica. Any 'Murican operation needs genuine 'Murican sized cranes to transfer 'Murican sized magnets onto a 'Murican sized barge protected by a 'Murican sized fleet of 'Murican sized cops. Why you ask? Cuz it's 'Murican. They probably used a Chinese crane.
Logistics Porn. I have worked on large Project Logistics many times so this is just fantastic to see. Over the last 10 years however I've pivoted over to emergency humanitarian logistics and believe me when I say that moving standard loads through on-going war zones is a whole different kettle of fish altogether, but thats why I love it. Brilliant video!!
I've genuinely never even considered things like that before, but this video and your comment are so interesting to me! The closest I've ever gotten to studying anything like this would have been supply chain logistics in college, which I really enjoyed, but that's nothing compared to what you probably have experienced on a daily basis. I can't even wrap my head around how complex it must be to move goods and supplies through such risky and unpredictable environments.
So, I'm sure they had a reason to do it this way but my question is: Why move the magnet at all? Why not lease the space and move the whole experiment to the other lab?
Limited space means they couldn't just start building the rest of the experiment around the magnet without causing trouble of some sort. Expanding the facility it was in could mean anything from disrupting other projects, classrooms, and lecture halls to eating up parking space. And then there's the questions of infrastructure, power draw, and whatnot. There are many reasons this was the best option.
i live in aurora, just down the road. if you look at fermilab from satellite, you'll see a ring of water. there is a 17 mile circumference particle accelerator under that. the largest particle accelerator in America. really cool to know its just up the street
This memory goes back to the early 80s, but I seem to recall in the Solvent Refined II plant in Morgantown WV the required pressure vessel would be built by Japan (one of the partners) and delivered from Japan on the top deck of a freighter (I guess an aircraft carrier wasn't available), brought through the Panama Canal, transferred to a barge for the trip up the Mississippi, then up the Ohio River to the Monongahela River and then transferred onto a huge truck and trailer for the trip up a hill to the refinery site. I do not know if it actually ever happened, but it was planned pretty much as I remember. This video reminded me of insane transport of huge heavy stuff.
how about the shuttle booster rockets. They were sized to fit through a tunnel or they could have been larger. Interesting limitations we put on ourselves.
Okay. This is feels kind of sentimental, but seeing so many different parts of society working together to move a magnet to do some science gave me a little hope. I know everyone was being paid and whatnot, but people really can do a lot when they work together. It’s also really important to invest in scientific research like this so we can make the world a better place.
Well remember this electromagnet was used to make the most promising discovery in physics in the last 30 years before the project's funding was cut and the magnet sat around for 15 years before someone found the funding to continue the experiment.
A few years ago I had the privilege of getting to see the magnet at Fermilab, and meet some of the people responsible for planning the transport. The coolest part is that the whole lab was open for tours for their 50th anniversary, so they took people into all kinds of usually inaccessible projects, including their particle accelerator.
3:17 hey, Long Islander here, the giant magnet was not in the Hamlet of Brookhaven, but at the Brookhaven National Laboratory in the TownShip of Brookhaven and the hamlet of Upton. The Brookhaven Lab is located directly north of my hometown of Shirley, on William Floyd Parkway, the magnet needed to go through the small streets in the lab then on to William Floyd Parkway south for roughly 10 miles to the end where the Smith Point “Marina” is.
I feel they would pay the driver higher rates for his expertise in handling huge objects carefully cross and and the driver would have a huge boost for his resume from this magnet move job. Leading to have a better pay in the future.
The James Webb Space Telescope’s shipping was pretty crazy. Also, I always thought how they used to transport the Space Shuttles after landing was pretty nuts (attached to the top of a 747 jumbo jet).
I'm pretty sure this is the same route they used to transport Magneto to his plastic jail cell. Side note: Magneto could never complain about not having a cell with a window. Supervillains have it so good.
I have a friend who works for one of the largest heavy equipment trailer manufacturers in the world. He once told me about how their steel and other raw materials are shipped from the east coast (Atlantic Ocean) directly to the Great Lakes via a river/canal system. I wonder why this magnet had to go all the way down to the Mississippi River Basin?
There is a path from the Hudson to the Great Lakes, but it has some pretty limited vertical and horizontal size restrictions that might be the reason why they couldn’t use that way. Though I was wondering why they didn’t use the St. Lawrence waterway. You could get to the same place in about half the distance and I’m sure size restrictions wouldn’t be a factor in that case.
@@tee4222 yeah never explained why they didn’t use the seaway and Great Lakes! Size wouldn’t have been an issue whatsoever using this route. I don’t know about when they get to Chicago tho or around there!
There was a more complicated delivery, getting KATRIN from Bavaria to Karlsruhe. They shipped it across the Danube, around Europe, into the Rhine, and then still had to get it through the city of Karlsruhe.
I can't imagine it would be safe to be anywhere near an actual magnet that size. Our blood has iron in it, not to mention all of the metal objects that would be flying toward it lol Fortunately, this is an electromagnet, so it doesn't do anything without power 😅
I clicked on this video because its thumbnail says that it's "the world's most complex delivery". Having watched it, whilst I do not deny that this delivery must have been challenging, I really do not see how it's the world's most complex one. I did not even know this channel and my first impression is that it is one that engages in clickbait and hyperbole, and I have little to no inclination to watch its other videos.
I was wondering the same thing. The best reason I can guess Up is that either the lakes were too rough and risky, or there wasn’t a good way to get from the lake through Chicago.
There may have been trouble with needing to go through Canada to get there (the eastern part of the St Lawrence and the Welland Canal to get to Lake Erie)
I remember a few months ago hearing Fermilab’s name in a video about scientific breakthroughs. I thought it was so cool that Fermilab which seems dormant now was credited to making a huge breakthrough in physics. I had no idea about this ridicules trip they had to make, but after hearing that they wanted it I knew it had to be related to their findings. Also they pretty much took the Quark’s model and proved that something is a miss. Muons didn’t act how they were mathematically predicted when in an electromagnetic field. This made it evident that we have numbers wrong, or more likely there are more partials than we know if in the Standard Model. Getting into deeper details requires a deeper dive into quantum physics.
It's obviously a electromagnet or else it would basically destroy anything in it's path. Also most likely physically impossible to move if it were a normal magnet that size.
So I had no preconceived notion‘s about this being an actual magnet and not an electromagnet, however, I did kinda think it was a natural magnet and not an electromagnet, but that was a minor split second thought, so I was primarily concentrating on the sheer size of this thing as well as the fact that this was a mission impossible scenario and that there was no way they would be able to move this thing other than by air transport, but I was wrong, but it is quite interesting though that they were able to find a waterway path to their final destination, that was an incredible stroke of luck, because imagine if it couldn’t be transported via water, then what?
youll be surprised how connected the rivers are, i live in pittsburgh where the mon and allegheny form the ohio, which connects the city to the entire border between ohio/WV, ohio/kentucky, kentucky/indiana and finally into the mississippi all the way where kentucky illinois and missouri borders meet, giving a way to get into the gulf. and the Allegheny river upstream leads to new york state around the same longitude as erie PA. in theory i could go down to the river where i live, follow it into the monongaheala just a short distance upstream, and either go up the allegheny to NY erie coastline, or go south all the way to the gulf of mexico
They should have hired FedEx to deliver it. It would have taken 2x as long but they would have crushed into a much smaller box or used multiple boxes and sent each one to a different location.
I thought going through the St. Lawrence and across the great lakes would have been a better idea, because they wouldn't have to go around Florida, and all, and since Chicago is known for being a big shipping destination from the Northern Atlantic, but apparently the Lake Michigan piers are farther away than those on the river.
There's actually a shorter route from the Hudson River to the Erie Canal and then thru the great lakes. There's also a canal connecting Lake Michigan to the Mississippi so they wouldn't have to drive from Chicago. I assume going thru the great lakes wasn't practical for some reason.
My first thought was, hire a helicopter. My second thought was, can a helicopter carry that much weight? I did a Google search and the CH-53 can carry 36000lbs maximum, which is more than 17 tons . I'm not sure about other extra-heavy helicopters but it seems that no matter what you're willing to pay, it's hard (maaaaaybe possible though) to move an object this big by helicopter.
Helicopter wouldn't be able to do that distance without several stops to refuel, too many factors such as weather and turbulence and places to shelter the magnet in case of bad weather.
I am guessing Fermilab would have also investigated reactivating the magnet _in situ_ , but either Brookhaven wasn't onboard with that proposal, or it still worked out less expensive to move the magnet to Chicago than moving all the experimental apparatus to Brookhaven + convincing personnel to relocate with it.
Do you know anything about the magnet by chance? Is it a permanent magnet? And can you elaborate on what you mean by reactivating the magnet in situ? I assumed all those experimental apparatuses just used huge electromagnets.
@@DaimyoD0 It was an electromagnet, i.e. a really large coil that you run a lot of current through to generate a really strong magnetic field. Using it in situ means they could have set it up at the original location and sent over some people to do their experiments there.
"As ships in North America have done for centuries"? The Tennessee-Tombigbee Waterway only opened in 1984. Before that, this would have had to go up the Mississippi the entire way.
Speaking of engineering challenges, I'd love it if you did a video on the buildings in Chicago that were lifted as much as 15 feet by hand cranks, to even them out with the new roads built above the floodplain, around 1900 or so.
Most like to believe those stone blocks were actually concrete poured at the spot. Plus they didn't have to move them across 3 other states. Big difference.
@@kbrown1054 They had a number of systems back then, like ramps, rollers, and pulleys. They were moved a decent way by river IIRC from a quarry they found upstream. I can't remember if the stones were in a boat or if it was a light type of stone transported by floating, like logs. Pumice wouldn't make a good building material though, so I think they used boats.
It's not the weight, it's the size. Specifically, the diameter/width of the object, and the sensitivity to disformation. Everything else in this transportation was pretty much peanuts.
This is like when I moved to NYC and couldn’t drive a box truck through the tunnel so we had to drive through Jersey and popped into Times Square on a Saturday night 😂 worst experience ever
I'm a bit confused how this is "one of the most complicated delivery operations ever attempted in the history of the united states." Like, yes, I imagine it was a very complex task to map out the land route and make the specialized truck, and it must've been a nightmare to find a suitable ship/barge and the right transport companies, but does it really compare to stuff like D Day or the Berlin Airlifts, or going back even further, the Panama Canal, building the first trans-American railroads, or the various westward expeditions just after the colonial era? It seems like this video was a bit overhyped to me, although feel free to let me know why I'm wrong if you know the reason this was more complicated.
Just in general, it seems like this is being milked for views. The cranes were fairly small in the grand scheme of cranes, (I mean, have you ever seen any large building under construction ever? or any large port with cargo ships? the cranes in the video were miniscule by comparison) but he acted like their size was awe-inspiring or something.
@@joesmith9920 he also didn't mention it was an electromagnet instead of a normal permanent magnet which makes things way easier. I clicked on this video cause I thought the challenge would be avoiding any metal along the way and instead got a pretty boring video about simply delivering a big piece of metal via boat.
@joe Smith do you kno what the name of that magnet is? Pay attention to the end of the video when he saw that it could change the law of physics. It’s called the cern. There’s way more to that machine than a magnet
Complicated in that the instruments being transported are so fragile, not the actual equipment. Usually with stuff like the Panama Canal raw material can be shipped x way fragmented and assembled at location. And the many parts usually get streamlined like an assembly line. From this it seems like the complexity is in it being so fragile that disruptions or not securing it or mounting it properly would ruin the entire thing. And idk if it’s super complex to build but I’d imagine damaging it would be a 1+ year setback and up to $60 mil down the drain
Who else thought that the reason why it couldn't be transported simply was because it would act like a magnet and destroy the surrounding iron infrastructure in the city
Lol yeah me
It’s a electromagnet. It’s not a magnet unless you supply with electricity
Maybe it is an electromagnet, so if you don't apply electricity to it, it wouldn't atract too strongly
bruhhh me too i thought it would absorb every car and mess up computers like an EMP
@@pabliskimitador Me: *plugs it in an outlet*
I think you needed to mention that this is an ELECTROmagnet. If it was a regular "permanent" magnet, it'd never have made it out the building without taking many lives with it.
I agree, title had me thinking the obstacle would be avoiding metal...
If it was a regular magnet... maybe it’ll carry a mix of blood and buildings along with it...
Yep. That is what got me interested to begin with. Moving a big electromagnet isn’t much different from any other object of similar size.
I figured it was an electromagnet. But I'm wondering why an electromagnet would cost $30 million to make. It seems like a big coil of wire would be much cheaper than that. There must be some very expensive optimization involved.
@Danijelovski Kanal Tokamak fusion reactor electromagnets are way more powerful than this one.
I was part of the crew that was responsible for moving a nuclear reactor and associated machinery in Washington state back in the early 1980’s. The reactor was shipped from Chattanooga Tennessee by barge through the Panama Canal and then north along the Pacific Ocean into Grays Harbor and up the Chehalis River to the Satsop Nuclear Power Plant. A new heavy duty barge dock had to be built to offload the structures and then special crawlers used to move it into place at the construction site.
All of this was part of my apprenticeship before I reached the legal drinking age, (21), in Washington state. And that was just one of the many incredible jobs I participated in as a young man while working in construction.
That's really quite amazing. Of course, the irony is that the Satsop power plant site is abandoned...but at least the concrete towers make for a great photo op.
And if I recall correctly, one of the books discussing the potential for a major Cascadia earthquake talked about that plant led to the discovery of subduction zone earthquakes.
that's cool and all but have you ever pulled a jeep xj motor outing replaced it with a good ol LS1
I haven’t been to Chattanooga in over 10 years and it’s only 3 hours away I can’t imagine moving that all the way to Washington that seems so far away though that’s also because I rarely travel out of state in fact only up until Montgomery Alabama west wise ;-;
Pretty exciting sounding
@@THESLlCK nerd
My physics professor was actually on the team who helped move this ring, i believe he said it was actually a superconductor whose main responsibility is to study the wobble of particles called muons. The craziest part about this move is what the public originally thought about this ring! When they were transporting it out of brookhaven it had to be at night so they could close the highways, people are very suspicious of brookhaven in general so many spread the rumor across long island and most of the us that they had seen a ufo come out of the labs. as you can see in the video the superconductor very much so looks like a ufo especially when it’s in its contraption! Still can’t believe my physics prof was a main contributor towards this project
Fellow Long Islander. Don’t remember this at all but it’s very interesting nonetheless.
Awesome comment
i have lived on Long Island for 48 years and have spent endless time in the town of Brookhaven and know NOTHING of this UFO BS
Imagine how many Toyota Corollas the magnet could hold🤯
Lol
About 15-18 depending on the model
Lool
Looool going old school 😎
And the amount of random pocket change would be immense
For those wondering: It cost ~$3Million to transport this way, a 90% savings off the $30Million to build a new one!
Thank you! This is the only part that was bugging me, did they make budget?
Zeppelin?
@@cedricsumner3103 HB...
saving is more impressive then entire transportation
@@peter-kj7hc 👀 🎈
for anyone wondering, since its not in the video, it cost about 3million dollars to move the magnet.
That super massive crane you mentioned is actually very tiny. I work in the petroleum industry and we recently did a lift of 2200 MT reactor using a Sarens 3200MT crane. So yeah, 17T is absolutely not massive.
I work in project logistics, have been involved in various loads from 400 to 1200 mt and this video made me kinda cringe to be honest.
Mt is short for megaton isnt it?
@@braiansingh9730 Metric Ton, one megaton is a million tons, or 2,204,622,621 lbs, or 1,000,000,000 kg.
i used to work in that same industry , and if its 17 ton 170 or 1700 , if it does not fit on a regular transport ..... it's special
Yeah that crane does not seem ludicrously massive by any standards
Former trucker. I approve this move. Perfect to minimize traffic mishaps.
Current Trucker. I shit a brick hearing they went 30 miles in 3 days.
@@YourLordMobius I wonder how much traffic they would've backed up if they did take I-80 the whole way there
@@iliketrains0pwned that's south of lemont. They'd be backtracking
@@iliketrains0pwned traffic jam half way to Sweden
@Bone Thug by electricity
I had no idea there was a navigable waterway from Mobile back to the Mississippi. I traced it back, it goes from the Mobile River, to the Tombigbee, to the Tennessee, to the Ohio. I assumed based on the barge path around Florida they planned to just go up the Mississippi the whole way.
Yeah the Mobile river and the Mississippi river system are not naturally linked. It's likely some canals were used along the path in Alabama or Tennessee
Today I learned that Mississippi is an island.
@@WizardToby Yes, the Tennessee-Tombigbee Waterway opened in the 1980s.
@@Electifried the whole east coast is an island surrounded by the mississippi river, great lakes, and st lawrence. You could sail up the mississippi and go all the way around to the atlantic, down the east coast, around florida, and back to the mouth of the mississippi.
@@Electifried no don’t say that dear lord
I just assumed the biggest logistical problem would be that everything along the route would stick to it.
Well i guess if it's oversized then anything thats called a tree or a lamp post or a sign would.
that wouldve happened if they didnt disconnect the two wires sticking out from the entire structure from the 2 Duracell AA batteries in the battery box..
its an electromagnet not a permanent one ahah
@@louisazraels7072 I was wondering why it didn't stick to the truck. Now it makes a lot more sense.
Fortunately, this was all accomplished long before the Fauci Ouchie could cause technicians and support crew to become stuck. 😋
Funny story about this magnet:
A small group of people and I once got a special tour of the muon-g2 experiment from the project lead. During this tour he told us about how they found the superconducting ring was after they first purchased it from the brookhaven lab but before they transported it. Apparently, a family of raccoons and mice had made a home in the insulation around the magnet over the years that it was out of service. So before they could move it, they sent something like a week taking the insulation off and cleaning all the feces and junk the mice and raccoons left behind. He said it was one of the worst smells.
Light Solver, Thanks for that ! B-)
Did he mention the price they paid for the "$30M" 17 Ton Magnet ?
Someone else in the comments claims to report that the transportation cost was $3M
The video makes it sound like it was "free for the taking" ?
Was this during the 50th year anniversary in batavia? I recall something similar bring shared on that day.
@@chessgaming9942 It might have been on or around that year but there wasn't any special events going on when I was last there.
He's never been stuck in a tiny elevator with a bunch of Turks.
@@solarnaut No, the video made it seem like the transportation would be lower than actually building it. Your listening comprehension is just lacking. I agree though that he could've mentioned the transportation cost. :)
Not even just "Hell yea, science" but ALSO "hell yea, human cooperation" Like holy hell every single person involved in this requires a ncie big pat on the back and a drink for getting this from point A to Point B
@Millennial Smark damn right, and they earned every penny plus extra
@Millennial Smark That's contractual. They were obligated to do it. The pat on the back is a way of expressing gratitude. It is something extra. This is why tips are also called "gratuities". In some lines of work (waiters, for example), it is somehow acceptable to ask the customer to pay part of the wage, and I don't understand why this is. But anyway, my overall point is that it pisses me off how people who drive for a living (and people who do a trade in general) are so often underpaid and treated like they are disposable. Without them, we'd be nowhere.
Yes Mr White!
I enjoyed this program.
Hello adam raguesea
Ayeee
I feel that this is too coincidental that I just got to this video from your latest Q&A
why i season my magnet not my fridge
@@ads2711 I had hoped someone would mention this. I was not disappointed.
"Hey babe, come over."
"I can't, it would take me 90 days to get there by land"
"My parents aren't home"
The magnet:
90 is a estimate bud
Not to mention actual irl cutbacks could’ve taken longer
underrated
I can see Fermilab right out of my back window. Super trippy hearing my town name and the lab in a popular video. They’d take us there on field trips to see the buffalo or ox (I can’t remember) they have grazing the property and they’d also have career fairs inside the main building. Having them explain how the particle accelerator worked when I was in middle school pushed me to a career in science. Excellent video, though, I hadn’t heard about this event when it happened.
On the other end living next to Brookhaven is also interesting to hear about 😂
@@nicoyoung1159 Thanks for the magnet!
when they said Mobile i was like ayyee recognition lmao
Wow, as someone who gives tours on opendays at a particle accelerator in my country it's amazing to hear the impact that it can have.
I clicked on the video because I saw Fermilab on the thumbnail, I've visited this place so many times as a kid, although it's been a couple years since I've been back
God damn it Joseph. How do you come up with these video ideas. You genius
hi checkmark
love ur stuff
On that note, you should have made a video about the 767 at Enniscrone beach.
GOD DAMMIT, JOSEPH!!!
JOSEPH
Imagine getting stuck in traffic behind that! The weirdest traffic I’ve ever been in was getting stuck behind a plane. It was a small plane (like 4-6 passengers probably) but it was just driving down the road. I have no idea where they were going, and they didn’t have a police escort so I don’t know if they were really supposed to be there, but they were just driving like a car down the road…
might have had to do an emergency landing?
Probably one of Pablo Escobars employees
Craziest thing for me was a pretty decent sized two story house! I was working construction at this one block for about two to three weeks this summer. After about 1 week of work I’m over at my truck about to take a lunch break when I realize that what used to be a four way intersection turned into a three way. That was quite confusing until I realized that there was a full size house in the middle of the street on a trailer. It must’ve stretched from curb to curb
@@benm12310 Why move house whe you can just *move* the house?
The coolest thing I've seen on the road was a retired Blue Angel jet dismantled on the back of a semi leaving Pensacola. Pretty weird to see that thing on the ground after watching it fly at 400 miles per hour just a few months earlier
Oh my god I remember running across this thing when my mom was driving me somewhere that day. Always stuck with me as something that was just plain weird, glad to finally find out what the hell it was all about
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Liar
@@40rollsonly I mean I remember pretty damn clearly being out on LI and getting stuck for like half an hour because of this massive fucking magnet crossing the road lmao
Y'all are acting like it's impossible for someone to see some 17 ton magnet being carried on a truck going 10 miles per day
Are you a boy or girl ?
Imagine printing your shipping label online and seeing the total in the millions. =P
1st to a verified creator
@Random Internet Guy ok??
At first I thought this was a permanent magnet and that that was the reason why it was so difficult to move.
Imagine having to avoid sewer covers and road signs with too much steel in them because it could just be yanked with a quickness at it.
I pictured Wile E. Coyote unpacking his Acme Super Magnet and immediately being barraged with metal objects from all directions.
@@girrrrrrr2 I would also wonder if it would affect the truck or boat moving it.
I don't think it would be that hard actually there are several materials that would shield the effects. However that was certainly implied by the title and thumbnail
@@calebreutener870 "there are several materials that would shield the effects"
What materials? I can only think of superconducting materials but that doesn't very easy. Are there others?
I actually didn’t know that “empty” land east of the tri-cities (Batavia, Geneva, St. Charles) was a lab. Every time I visit my cousins we pass by that area to get there (Using Kirk Rd west of the land)
This comment sounds so weird when you're used the original European places of those place names XD
It's usually open to the public, although covid has complicated that. But sometime in the future you should go take a tour. There's a herd of bison.
I always wondered what fermilab was, i pass that exit everyday to and from work
@That_Guy_Jello And yet I'm going to assume you didn't become a physicist. Just statistically and the way you phrased it.
Yep!
My first thought would've been to just use the Erie Canal, or even the St Lawrence River.
same
Same!
Wait. I live in Lockport by the Erie canal. That barge would not have fit in the Erie canal. I wonder if the barge would've also been too big for the St. Lawrence river or even the locks at St. Sault Marie, MI or something.
Yeah, me too. But I suppose they figured it couldn't be done for some reason.
It probably would involve way more driving by having to transport it across the entirety of Chicago
Imagine if that was a mega neodymium magnet instead of a electromagnet! That would certainly be the biggest challenge. 🤯
good luck unsticking it from the truck bed😁
@@ericonion3561 yeah. I came here to see street lights groaning under their own weight and someone getting pulled across the street by the car keys in their pocket.
@@isidoreaerys8745 fortunately, it's just a car key, not a metal necklace :o
Wendover productions: The insane logistics of 17 Ton magnet
Nobody:
Wendover: The Insane Logistics…
😂😂
This doesn't involve planes, clearly he's not interested lol
You should make video about how was moved a gothic style church in Most, Czech Republic in Socialist Czechoslovakia in 1975 for about 2 km by rails. It's really interesting topic :)
Co to, o tom slyšim prvně
Ale to je v mostu, to nikoho nezajima
You should probably learn better English mate
@@lorenzophalaRSA Says you
@@lorenzophalaRSA “learn better English” is incorrect English, meaning you are a hypocrite.
The narrator's frame of reference for crane - size, must be his toy crane that he traded his only thesaurus for as a child.
What do you mean there are cranes larger than the ones built into trucks?
@@Michael-bu3us
I hope that's a joke
@@Michael-bu3us Of course there are lol. The narrator is telling this as if his talking to people with no knowledge about cranes.
It's a script buddy
Oddly specific, but okay.
Native Long Islander here . . . The map that shows where the magnet started shows the Village of Brookhaven, which is not where the magnet originated. Brookhaven National Lab is 15 miles north of there, in the Hamlet of Upton, in Brookhaven Township. If you look up Upton, Long Island in a satellite view you can find the lab by finding the circular footprint of the particle accelerator ring!
I was born in Lemont, IL. My Grandfather was in charge of the engineering division of Fermi Lab in the 90s. Big shame it means nothing now though since he left his fortune to my father who wasted it all on cocaine, ruining the family forever. This was a kind of nostalgic video for me, thanks.
well that took a turn I didn't expect
Ummmm
"cocaine is a hell of a drug"
That is precisely why a fortune should never be left to only one person to manage.
@@YourLordMobius I'm Rick James b***h! 🤣
I mean, those cranes are actually pretty modestly sized. There are cranes at least ten times that large in operation all over the world
Same thought, those were just decent crains.
@@shubhamuraon3552 are we gatekeeping cranes now
Why did you start your message with "I mean"? Are you elaborating on something you previously said here?
@@BenjaminGoose In my dialect of english (I live in NW USA) that's a common little embellishment that often implies some tone of skepticism, and is also just a filler. I often say that out loud but I guess in written text it's not as affective
@@andyzacek9760 effective* but nice job. You killed that guy. :)
Coming from the heavy haul industry, those cranes aren’t massive. A massive crane is one that is assembled by two cranes you called massive and 40 plus flatbed loads of components.
I agree, this is some serious hyperbole! There have probably been larger houses that have been moved further distances where there wasn't a Port and a navigable waterway within 30 miles of pick-up and drop-off....smh
Some of the cranes they put on barges to do stuff like ship building and bridge construction are like mind boggling in size.
Lol, that was my exact thought. If a crane is self-propelled, it can hardly be called massive.
@@JimmyNewCakes honestly I struggle to think of smaller cranes! I know some truck cranes are pretty small, but the one shown was definitely a small or medium one at most, I think.
We get it you're so elite
It’s crazy to see this pop back up. I was working for the forest preserve district of dupage county at the time and helped remove the signs at the preserve where it parked one of the days (can see the forest preserve sign on the left hand side at 4:39). They were only allowing the public to see it from across the street but since I worked for the park district I was able to get a picture right next to it and talk to the truck driver about how they transported it. Each wheel was on individual controls so they could make small adjustments if needed as they were pulling it down the road. Pretty crazy how much effort went in to transporting it.
Did you happen to change any forest preserve signs in Bartlett on the northern side of Dupage? I live right next to a Dupage county forest preserve here and I remember them changing the signs when I was a kid
@@MegaMozozo I did not do those ones specifically. I grew up in Bartlett so I know which one you’re talking about but I was a part of the East division of the forest preserve so only worked on those preserves.
Im actually from the town of Brookhaven on Long Island and i remember all of this happening it was a big deal. Theres actually a particle accelerator at brookhaven national lab ("RHIC"). Thats a real interesting topic as well, its so large you can see it from damn near space.
I know people who work there, I even applied for a job there but it didn’t end up working out haha
BROOKHAVEN GANG
brookhaven gang!!
@@katewolf00 technically Ridge gang in town of Brookhaven. The BNL is like in my backyard i used to deliver pizza there haha. 631 son!
haha yeah you did Mike! pizza crust for ever ❤️
As someone coming from the windpower branch, that ludicrously big crane is tiny at best.
Yup I said the same thing, shows how much these youtubers really know about the videos they make lol.
I saw a wind turbine blade being transported in upstate NY with police escorts 2 yrs ago
Who asked lmao.
@@jaredchampagne2752 why the unnecessary jab? For the regular viewer it could be considered ludicrously big? It’s all relative. No need to be an ass
@@mathildamurray2622 But it's not so it shouldn't be said to be. Maybe you should look in a dictionary to find out what ludicrous actually means given that the crane used was basically the next size up from a lego crane
The fact so many people were excited enough about a "nerd" thing like "just a big magnet" to show up and watch the truck go by is one of the few aspects of humanity that give me faith. People today are very science and knowledge forward.
Being a life long Long Islander, I need to clarify something that you have - Brookhaven National Lab is a straight shot down the William Floyd Parkway, not the twisty route that you have. You keep referencing the center of the town of Brookhaven, not the location of the lab - Which is actually closer to Middle Island, and on the grounds of the former Camp Upton. The shot down the Floyd, while being pretty straight, also dealt with the overpass for the LIE. It was a much LONGER driver than what you have pictured.
This makes much more sense, going to Longwood I was confused as to why it was pictured to originate from down in the PatMed area.
This dude has a history of being both:
A: Inaccurate on information.
And B: 'Add-baiting' people with a lack on information.
I mean just look at that whole point from 5:24 on. The whole 'Do you wonder how magnets work? Well here's a paywall from the sponsor.' just makes this channel not even worth the bandwidth it takes up.
Life long Long Islander myself it threw me also my guess is they Google Brookhaven and got the south shore Hamlet of Brookhaven on Montauk Highway.
rda nb rider overpass over by Shasfdees house
2:24 _"For these reasons, FEDEX and UPS refused to help out with the move."_ No wonder, coming from companies that bend packages with a "DO NOT BEND OR FOLD" warning on them.
i was looking for this comment lol
Believe it or not, when this move happened, I lived in Lockport, a few miles southwest of Lemont.
And somehow I don't remember it happening, but it's nuts to realize that it did happen so close to home.
Large transports are generally not publicized, probably for security reason but IDK. Publicizing them would help the public with planning, but does not help the people doing the move at all so they probably just don't care.
Are you telling me that someone lived a few miles away from this??? Mind blown! I don't believe it!
@@John...44... ikr its crazy
Well I lived in Shirley NY and 1 mile from Smith point Marine and I don't even remember this i now live in Nashville TN but I was there in June WHEN this took place but again I don't remember it
Don’t feel bad. I lived in Aurora in a neighborhood directly south of Fermilab. The truck likely passed within 200 yards of my house and I also had no clue that it happened.
Cool video. I work on a tow boat pushing barges on the coast and rivers. I've been all over from Mobile to Brownsville and up the Mississippi to St Paul and the Illinois river to Chicago. People don't know just how important our inland river system is for the American economy.
I've seen all kinds of stuff moved by barge including military and NASA hardware. I wish more TH-camrs did videos on the Mississippi and other inland waterways.
My dad works on the Mississippi, and when the car factory my mom worked at was demolished, it ended up on his barges and he took pictures of it.
I was surprised to see that route... I guessed there would be a northern waterway... but I just now learned, that Chicago isn't connected to the ocean (by ship).
@@KarlsAbenteuer Not by anything wide enough for the magnet
"I've Been Everywhere" song hit my mind reading this.
@@KarlsAbenteuer Actually wrong, it's just longer. You can go from the Great Lakes to the Atlantic thru the Welland Canal and the St Lawrence River.
This was super cool. Your storytelling is so engaging, and you always pick great stories to tell. Thanks RealLifeLore!
Man i just can't think about, how much is must suck, to plan such an transport and then doing it.
Great respect for the people, who do this job.
It doesn't suck. I work in trucking and planning loads is the best part of the Job. I would have loved to plan this move, not to mention the $$$ that it would pay is making my mouth water lmao. Harder the job, greater the payout.
@@ibrahimhanif8503 I would imagine there would be a lot of permitting to get the roads closed down for this
Just saying "magnet" don't cut it.
It's an electromagnet right? Because man, a 17 tons permanent magnet would probably be much much worst to move...
Yeah, title is misleading and needs to be updated.
Plug that electromagnet in and watch the cars go by!
I was at Fermilab when the magnet arrived, and have a good friend who works on the experiment that uses it.
One of the scientists involved with the experiment said that they went to Alabama or Tennessee to watch it go past on the barge. While there, they saw a road sign with bullet holes in it and had a minor freak out worrying that somebody might have taken potshots at the magnet while it was going past on the barge. Luckily, if anyone did, they missed.
I'm sure they had some form of security on the barge. Maybe not full blown police escort but definitely something.
Blasting road signs is simply Alabama.
When you're in a rural area, you should feel scared if you don't see signs with bullet holes.
That's totally normal lmao. That's just target practice
Lived in Oklahoma and Texas all my life. Bullet holes in signs are absolutely normal, especially in rural areas.
I feel very hopeful from this video. The amount of effort that was taken to not only create this but to transport it with the amount of care so that it would not be damaged simply tells me that yes “we want to make the world a better place through research and science“ and that makes me feel so much hope for our current world.
No mention how much it cost to move the magnet vs. the $30M price tag of a new one. Especially with the not insignificant possibility of damaging the old magnet. All the people, machines, fuel, engineering, etc. = how much $$?
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Probably less than a million to move it.
I would estimate the move about 500k magnet itself, 25M, since it was an old magnet that was sitting around but.
Yeah that’s exactly what I want to know. I feel it was a large omission
Ship transport is very, very cheap.
0:37 as someone who lives on long LI, I can say that, in fact, the suburban roads of Long Island will not under any circumstances accept anything more than an inch wider than the road.
Even driving it through William Floyd parkway was a huge hassle and it fit within 5 inches on each end at one point
I'm shocked that it somehow fit under the LIE overpass. No idea how they pulled that off.
3:17 "...where it was then loaded up onto a waiting barge by a ludicrously massive crane."
Practical Engineering wants to have a word with you about what really constitutes a ludicrously massive crane.
yea in some line anything below 50 metric ton is considered usual day to day and need not covered by special procedures (it will be safely performed but just day to day SOP will suffice)
I remember being at fermilab that day to see the magnet's arrival. Been trying to find myself in that crowd picture for a few minutes now. Really neat to see a video on something I witnessed.
I live in Illinois near Lemont and I remember them stopping this thing in front of the local movie theatre so everyone could take pictures of it and stuff. I think about this every now and then because I wondered how often something like this had to be moved down the road like this.
I was at Fermilab 10 years ago - it was awesome. Everyone should go visit that place :D The building reminds me of the Atari logo. Inside is like a late 70s University building, but "modern"
@@GoblinUrNuts I still have a negative of a subatomic particle they "smashed" - It did seem even a bit dated then, I wonder if they've modernized it.
When things calm down and my son is older, a re-visit is in order :)
@@GoblinUrNuts go tri-cities! (Local resident too)
@@harrychufan whoop whoop
(Local resident)
Reminds me of watching them move giant windmill blades. The trailers are super long as the blades are 150 ft long. Even the tires on the trailer turn in order to make corners. All of this with a police escort of course who would also have police set up at certain intersection ahead ready to shut down lanes and block traffic.
I saw a few when I lived in the Netherlands I was shocked the first time I saw one on the road I didn't realise they were so huge Looked larger than some commercial planes I've been on
The comparison is actually quite good and that's why this video is BS. They transport similar and MUCH bigger things all the time
Yeah. I live near a factory where they make a lot, if not most or all (in the US), of those windmill blades. They are a pain in everyone's ass and they've basically just consumed a couple of smaller highways out here.
@@stefan514 This channel has become desperate for content lol
@@stefan514 the problem with an electromagnet however is that you need to keep it in perfect conditions the entire trip, of which those perfect conditions are keeping it completely flat. the width also is a big issue too. but who cares about all that anyway, it's cool to hear about a large moving project regardless of whatever other ones there are.
There was another similar, maybe even more spectacular transport in Germany: it was a large Vacuum Tank for some sort of Tritium Experiment conducted at the Karlsruhe Institute of Technology, which was produced in Deggendorf, both in Southern Germany. The direct route by car is approximately 4.5 hours, but they transported it via the Danube River into the Black Sea, through the Bosporus straight in Istanbul into the Mediterranean ond from there on through the Straight of Gibraltar, the Atlantic Ocean and the English Channel to the port of Rotterdam and, finally up the Rhine River. Instead of a 350 km distance, the length of the whole sea Route was approximately 8600 km...
**“LuDiCrioSLy LaRgE cRanE!”**
Shows regular 40-60 ton crane used at just about any construction site in America on any given day.
Agreed! Looks medium sized to me.
Maybe, but this is 'Murica. Any 'Murican operation needs genuine 'Murican sized cranes to transfer 'Murican sized magnets onto a 'Murican sized barge protected by a 'Murican sized fleet of 'Murican sized cops. Why you ask? Cuz it's 'Murican.
They probably used a Chinese crane.
Logistics Porn. I have worked on large Project Logistics many times so this is just fantastic to see. Over the last 10 years however I've pivoted over to emergency humanitarian logistics and believe me when I say that moving standard loads through on-going war zones is a whole different kettle of fish altogether, but thats why I love it.
Brilliant video!!
I've genuinely never even considered things like that before, but this video and your comment are so interesting to me! The closest I've ever gotten to studying anything like this would have been supply chain logistics in college, which I really enjoyed, but that's nothing compared to what you probably have experienced on a daily basis. I can't even wrap my head around how complex it must be to move goods and supplies through such risky and unpredictable environments.
So, I'm sure they had a reason to do it this way but my question is: Why move the magnet at all?
Why not lease the space and move the whole experiment to the other lab?
Probably too many important equipment in the other lab and the scientists that work there would probably not like their workplace being shifted.
Limited space means they couldn't just start building the rest of the experiment around the magnet without causing trouble of some sort. Expanding the facility it was in could mean anything from disrupting other projects, classrooms, and lecture halls to eating up parking space. And then there's the questions of infrastructure, power draw, and whatnot. There are many reasons this was the best option.
Fermilab is able to provide a much higher-intensity beam of muons than Brookhaven. This is critical to the sensitivity of the experiment.
Thank you for your answers
i live in aurora, just down the road. if you look at fermilab from satellite, you'll see a ring of water. there is a 17 mile circumference particle accelerator under that. the largest particle accelerator in America. really cool to know its just up the street
This memory goes back to the early 80s, but I seem to recall in the Solvent Refined II plant in Morgantown WV the required pressure vessel would be built by Japan (one of the partners) and delivered from Japan on the top deck of a freighter (I guess an aircraft carrier wasn't available), brought through the Panama Canal, transferred to a barge for the trip up the Mississippi, then up the Ohio River to the Monongahela River and then transferred onto a huge truck and trailer for the trip up a hill to the refinery site. I do not know if it actually ever happened, but it was planned pretty much as I remember. This video reminded me of insane transport of huge heavy stuff.
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@@anthonymonsivais3053 You noticed!!
how about the shuttle booster rockets. They were sized to fit through a tunnel or they could have been larger. Interesting limitations we put on ourselves.
Imagine having something that large and extremely valuable just sitting around collecting dust for years.
Imagine someone coming along and offering to pay to remove it!
@@garyblack8717 wish someone would pay me for all the things I have collecting dust.
I would absolutely NOT call that a ludicrously massive crain.
Okay. This is feels kind of sentimental, but seeing so many different parts of society working together to move a magnet to do some science gave me a little hope. I know everyone was being paid and whatnot, but people really can do a lot when they work together. It’s also really important to invest in scientific research like this so we can make the world a better place.
they were not working together for science. they were working for those dolla dolla bills, son!
Scientific research does not always make the world a better place.
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People are brilliant!
Well remember this electromagnet was used to make the most promising discovery in physics in the last 30 years before the project's funding was cut and the magnet sat around for 15 years before someone found the funding to continue the experiment.
Fascinating. Also, hats off to the video producer for getting to the point and not padding out the video to 18+ minutes.
A few years ago I had the privilege of getting to see the magnet at Fermilab, and meet some of the people responsible for planning the transport. The coolest part is that the whole lab was open for tours for their 50th anniversary, so they took people into all kinds of usually inaccessible projects, including their particle accelerator.
Bro I live right next to fermilab I been there so many times I ain’t never seen that magnet tho that’s crazy
3:17 hey, Long Islander here, the giant magnet was not in the Hamlet of Brookhaven, but at the Brookhaven National Laboratory in the TownShip of Brookhaven and the hamlet of Upton. The Brookhaven Lab is located directly north of my hometown of Shirley, on William Floyd Parkway, the magnet needed to go through the small streets in the lab then on to William Floyd Parkway south for roughly 10 miles to the end where the Smith Point “Marina” is.
Yes, the map is incorrect - the path was straight down William Floyd Parkway from the Lab.
Whoever drew the map was just generalizing locations. The Illinois River is actually 50-60 miles from where they drew their line.
Also long Islander here grew up 1 mile from Smith point Marine (trafalgar dr) to be exact now living in Nashville TN since 14
More insane deliveries, please. This is too interesting.
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The truck driver: let's see what I gotta deliver today
*This magnet shows up*
The truck driver: I knew I should have left my job
I feel they would pay the driver higher rates for his expertise in handling huge objects carefully cross and and the driver would have a huge boost for his resume from this magnet move job. Leading to have a better pay in the future.
The James Webb Space Telescope’s shipping was pretty crazy. Also, I always thought how they used to transport the Space Shuttles after landing was pretty nuts (attached to the top of a 747 jumbo jet).
Hmmmm, that is not a “ludicrously massive crane”. I was thinking it was way bigger. Like the one that caused that disaster at Mecca.
I'm pretty sure this is the same route they used to transport Magneto to his plastic jail cell.
Side note: Magneto could never complain about not having a cell with a window. Supervillains have it so good.
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Truly an American moment.
Metric system is superior btw.
@Mars Hello my red friend...
I have a friend who works for one of the largest heavy equipment trailer manufacturers in the world. He once told me about how their steel and other raw materials are shipped from the east coast (Atlantic Ocean) directly to the Great Lakes via a river/canal system.
I wonder why this magnet had to go all the way down to the Mississippi River Basin?
Either probably would have worked but there was probably more availability and they could get it closer to the final destination.
There is a path from the Hudson to the Great Lakes, but it has some pretty limited vertical and horizontal size restrictions that might be the reason why they couldn’t use that way. Though I was wondering why they didn’t use the St. Lawrence waterway. You could get to the same place in about half the distance and I’m sure size restrictions wouldn’t be a factor in that case.
@@tee4222 yeah never explained why they didn’t use the seaway and Great Lakes! Size wouldn’t have been an issue whatsoever using this route. I don’t know about when they get to Chicago tho or around there!
There was a more complicated delivery, getting KATRIN from Bavaria to Karlsruhe. They shipped it across the Danube, around Europe, into the Rhine, and then still had to get it through the city of Karlsruhe.
we’re the smartest and coolest and most amazing ants ever created… it’s an honor and i’m thankful for you reminding me of it. great video.
Began watching this video thinking it was going to be a permanent magnet. That would've been even more insanely difficult to transport.
I actually have had the privilege to see the magnet in person. It was incredible
Imagine how much fun moving a 17ton neodymium magnet would be 🥺
I can't imagine it would be safe to be anywhere near an actual magnet that size. Our blood has iron in it, not to mention all of the metal objects that would be flying toward it lol
Fortunately, this is an electromagnet, so it doesn't do anything without power 😅
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As a person from Long Island, I’m thrilled something interesting happened on Long Island. NOTHING happens on Long Island.
Yep agree nothing interesting at all
the cranes used to move this were in fact, the second smallest cranes I have ever seen. why call them ludicrously massive?
One man's second smallest crane is another man's ludicrously massive crane. It's all relative.
I clicked on this video because its thumbnail says that it's "the world's most complex delivery". Having watched it, whilst I do not deny that this delivery must have been challenging, I really do not see how it's the world's most complex one. I did not even know this channel and my first impression is that it is one that engages in clickbait and hyperbole, and I have little to no inclination to watch its other videos.
I'm curious as to why the Great Lakes wasn't an option? Even if you have to sail past Nova Scotia it still seems shorter than the route they took.
I was wondering the same thing. The best reason I can guess Up is that either the lakes were too rough and risky, or there wasn’t a good way to get from the lake through Chicago.
There may have been trouble with needing to go through Canada to get there (the eastern part of the St Lawrence and the Welland Canal to get to Lake Erie)
It might be because the lakes are notorious for their bad weather. Storms there can be somewhat unpredictable and strong as far as I know.
They probably didn't want to get stuck in downtown traffic. But seriously, I would guess it made a shorter drive and that seemed to be the risky part.
That was my question as well. Seemed like it would be faster. But maybe not cheaper?
I remember a few months ago hearing Fermilab’s name in a video about scientific breakthroughs. I thought it was so cool that Fermilab which seems dormant now was credited to making a huge breakthrough in physics. I had no idea about this ridicules trip they had to make, but after hearing that they wanted it I knew it had to be related to their findings.
Also they pretty much took the Quark’s model and proved that something is a miss. Muons didn’t act how they were mathematically predicted when in an electromagnetic field. This made it evident that we have numbers wrong, or more likely there are more partials than we know if in the Standard Model. Getting into deeper details requires a deeper dive into quantum physics.
At first I'm expecting the huge magnet would attract every metal along the way which made the delivery a challenge.
nop, you need electricity for that magnet, to work like a magnet
It's obviously a electromagnet or else it would basically destroy anything in it's path. Also most likely physically impossible to move if it were a normal magnet that size.
So I had no preconceived notion‘s about this being an actual magnet and not an electromagnet, however, I did kinda think it was a natural magnet and not an electromagnet, but that was a minor split second thought, so I was primarily concentrating on the sheer size of this thing as well as the fact that this was a mission impossible scenario and that there was no way they would be able to move this thing other than by air transport, but I was wrong, but it is quite interesting though that they were able to find a waterway path to their final destination, that was an incredible stroke of luck, because imagine if it couldn’t be transported via water, then what?
youll be surprised how connected the rivers are, i live in pittsburgh where the mon and allegheny form the ohio, which connects the city to the entire border between ohio/WV, ohio/kentucky, kentucky/indiana and finally into the mississippi all the way where kentucky illinois and missouri borders meet, giving a way to get into the gulf. and the Allegheny river upstream leads to new york state around the same longitude as erie PA. in theory i could go down to the river where i live, follow it into the monongaheala just a short distance upstream, and either go up the allegheny to NY erie coastline, or go south all the way to the gulf of mexico
They should have hired FedEx to deliver it. It would have taken 2x as long but they would have crushed into a much smaller box or used multiple boxes and sent each one to a different location.
Yea big brain !! These dummies
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I thought going through the St. Lawrence and across the great lakes would have been a better idea, because they wouldn't have to go around Florida, and all, and since Chicago is known for being a big shipping destination from the Northern Atlantic, but apparently the Lake Michigan piers are farther away than those on the river.
Was wondering the same thing.
There's actually a shorter route from the Hudson River to the Erie Canal and then thru the great lakes. There's also a canal connecting Lake Michigan to the Mississippi so they wouldn't have to drive from Chicago. I assume going thru the great lakes wasn't practical for some reason.
@@t_ylr the great lakes are way too dangerous and unpredictable for something like this to be transported
@@Tazmazy that's makes sense.
@@Tazmazy I'm pretty sure the Atlantic Ocean and the Caribbean also have storms and big waves unexpectedly.
How the hell is USPS slower than moving a 50 foot wide magnet
It's simple you don't use USPS you call in Mammoet. The better option for when your object is more than 10 ft wide and 50 ft long.
@@davidty2006 Finally someone willing to deliver my comically large spoon
I just have an image in my head of this huge magnet going through the streets of NY, sucking in road signs and bicycles.
@Danijelovski Kanal Well yes, but that takes the humour away from my head cannon. Can we just pretend it's not an electromagnet?
That crazy moment you stumble upon your place of employment on TH-cam…. Fantastic to see Long Island NY in one of your videos!
My first thought was, hire a helicopter. My second thought was, can a helicopter carry that much weight? I did a Google search and the CH-53 can carry 36000lbs maximum, which is more than 17 tons . I'm not sure about other extra-heavy helicopters but it seems that no matter what you're willing to pay, it's hard (maaaaaybe possible though) to move an object this big by helicopter.
I'm sure they can hook it to two helicopters if needed.
Helicopter wouldn't be able to do that distance without several stops to refuel, too many factors such as weather and turbulence and places to shelter the magnet in case of bad weather.
@@RichardFStripeRendezvous just wait for good weather and make planned stops. But I guess they didn't needed it that fast.
@@Ragnarok540 weather can be unpredictable though, and wind can start seemingly out of nowhere in a moment
Yeah not to mention that the wind or sudden bad weather could damage the very fragile magnet.
From what I found out, the first “Pong” game was created in Brookhaven National Lab back in 1956.
That is what I thought too I actually went to the tour that bnl has and that's what I remember them saying
I am guessing Fermilab would have also investigated reactivating the magnet _in situ_ , but either Brookhaven wasn't onboard with that proposal, or it still worked out less expensive to move the magnet to Chicago than moving all the experimental apparatus to Brookhaven + convincing personnel to relocate with it.
Do you know anything about the magnet by chance? Is it a permanent magnet? And can you elaborate on what you mean by reactivating the magnet in situ? I assumed all those experimental apparatuses just used huge electromagnets.
@@DaimyoD0 It was an electromagnet, i.e. a really large coil that you run a lot of current through to generate a really strong magnetic field. Using it in situ means they could have set it up at the original location and sent over some people to do their experiments there.
I work at BNL and knowing them, they decided to re-purpose the existing site and this removal helped move that forward.
To carry out the experiment, they needed a source of very large numbers of muons. Fermilab can provide that, and Brookhaven couldn't.
@@Narrowgaugefilms Thanks for the inside perspective!
Imagine seeing this thing being transported and automatically assuming it’s a UFO, I would.
great point!!!!
"As ships in North America have done for centuries"? The Tennessee-Tombigbee Waterway only opened in 1984. Before that, this would have had to go up the Mississippi the entire way.
Speaking of engineering challenges, I'd love it if you did a video on the buildings in Chicago that were lifted as much as 15 feet by hand cranks, to even them out with the new roads built above the floodplain, around 1900 or so.
I'd love to see a video of that it sounds very interesting
The “Da Plain” River is pronounced with both S’s, exactly how it’s spelled, Des Plaines. Unfortunately, I would know.
im near des plaines
I grew up in Des Plaines! Maine West Warriors!!
@@jK-vm6vt Graduated from there 2 years ago! Looks totally different now, they combined the pit and the cafeteria.
i wont say which school i go to but our football team is still bad smh, yall probably know
It took them a month to deliver this massive thing 3200 miles but my tiny headphones can't get across New Jersey even after 40 days
Awesome! Crazy how our ancestors moved stone blocks weighing hundreds of tons.
Most like to believe those stone blocks were actually concrete poured at the spot. Plus they didn't have to move them across 3 other states. Big difference.
@@kbrown1054 They had a number of systems back then, like ramps, rollers, and pulleys. They were moved a decent way by river IIRC from a quarry they found upstream. I can't remember if the stones were in a boat or if it was a light type of stone transported by floating, like logs. Pumice wouldn't make a good building material though, so I think they used boats.
It's not the weight, it's the size. Specifically, the diameter/width of the object, and the sensitivity to disformation. Everything else in this transportation was pretty much peanuts.
This is like when I moved to NYC and couldn’t drive a box truck through the tunnel so we had to drive through Jersey and popped into Times Square on a Saturday night 😂 worst experience ever
I feel like it would've been more efficient to just move the science team to the magnet.
I'm a bit confused how this is "one of the most complicated delivery operations ever attempted in the history of the united states." Like, yes, I imagine it was a very complex task to map out the land route and make the specialized truck, and it must've been a nightmare to find a suitable ship/barge and the right transport companies, but does it really compare to stuff like D Day or the Berlin Airlifts, or going back even further, the Panama Canal, building the first trans-American railroads, or the various westward expeditions just after the colonial era? It seems like this video was a bit overhyped to me, although feel free to let me know why I'm wrong if you know the reason this was more complicated.
Just in general, it seems like this is being milked for views. The cranes were fairly small in the grand scheme of cranes, (I mean, have you ever seen any large building under construction ever? or any large port with cargo ships? the cranes in the video were miniscule by comparison) but he acted like their size was awe-inspiring or something.
@@joesmith9920 he also didn't mention it was an electromagnet instead of a normal permanent magnet which makes things way easier. I clicked on this video cause I thought the challenge would be avoiding any metal along the way and instead got a pretty boring video about simply delivering a big piece of metal via boat.
@joe Smith do you kno what the name of that magnet is? Pay attention to the end of the video when he saw that it could change the law of physics. It’s called the cern. There’s way more to that machine than a magnet
Complicated in that the instruments being transported are so fragile, not the actual equipment. Usually with stuff like the Panama Canal raw material can be shipped x way fragmented and assembled at location. And the many parts usually get streamlined like an assembly line. From this it seems like the complexity is in it being so fragile that disruptions or not securing it or mounting it properly would ruin the entire thing. And idk if it’s super complex to build but I’d imagine damaging it would be a 1+ year setback and up to $60 mil down the drain
@@crusader8102 well, if you don't think the guy making the videos knows that.. then you dont know jack!