excellent analysis and commentary appreciated, really improves enjoyment of the game to see this level of detail please consider showing the play through first in real time before then going back with the analysis please keep up the great work
Awesome show! Love hearing from Greg! Learn so much each week. Would like to have seen the breakdown on the 3rd down conversion throw to AJ in 4th qtr. Seemed that Jalen was decisive on that throw? Need to see more of that!
Good talk. I've been pulling for Hurts since he started, watching him grow into a very good qb. He's not really progressing like we'd all like. I think a lot of this has to fall on the qb's coach and kellen Moore?
@@InsideTheBirds The QB coach is non-existent on Game day! Fans were the first to call this out when Brian Johnson was here but now it's less of a concern. I watched the game too and saw Hurts going through progressions and reads more than I've ever seen him do. Jalen Hurts was definitely off a bit but I don't understand why he's questioned and he improves every time. His timing was bad but the O line and DLine had been getting blown off the line against Carolina.
I agree a lot with what you say and I’m pulling for Hurts, (respect The Inside the birds opinion) but this is Kellen Moore first szn…. 1) 3rd playbook in 3 szns for a QB who isn’t an elite passer I feel like this is not taken into account…. 2) was listening to Seth Joyner, he feels there’s friction between Hurts & the Wr AJ/Smith, he believes that Hurts was intimating in his last presser that the WR are not where there supposed to be on plays and this is why he doesn’t let the ball rip because he’s unsure they will be in there spots.
I'm no Greg Cossell but even before seeing this I said Jalen needs to get his ass under center and most of the Eagles pass plays should be off of play action. I dont care if he's not comfortable, you have to be comfortable being uncomfortable until he gets it right, he has just as good of arm talent as Purdy and Darnold, a lot of their pass plays is off of play action!!! Practice until you get it Hurts!! It's about getting better for yourself a d the team
The throw that should have gone to AJ would have possibly changed the whole thought of them not scoring in the first quarter since they haven't scored in the first quarter all season
We've frozen it quite a bit and asked people who played. Horn's leverage is toward Smith -- the opposite direction of Brown's route. The safety is trailing Brown. Brown is an elite WR. He has plenty of separation and a throw in stride is a big gain that's very clearly there. A good QB has to make this throw unless, as you wrote, he was told in the headset to check down. And then the question would be: why wouldn't you want your QB to make that throw when you drew up a 3-level stretch play designed to exploit the hole in the zone?
@@InsideTheBirds One possibility is because they had 20 yards to get the first down, and the longer pass has more of a chance for failure. A short pass is easier to complete and then they need another, say, 10 yards to make the first down. The TD pass to Calcaterra was Hurts rewarding Calcaterra for filling in for Goedert. Nothing else makes any sense. He had Smith and Brown wide open!
@@InsideTheBirds For some reason he was not confident in making that throw. There's is no way that the Jalen was asked to check down on this play by his coaches.
32:12 just a honest opinion…. I think the hyper focussing / nitpicking of TD passes and saying this guy or that guy was MORE OPEN on a successful play is something I’m not used to ! ….You have a right to talk about it but I can remember when Wentz drilled a 20 yard TD against Washington in the corner of the endzone. Every one raved that was an unbelievable pass between multiple defenders & no one mentioned Wentz had a wide open receiver in the endzone and it was a regular thing with Wentz going for the difficult TD pass & totally missing wide open WR in the endzone and I didn’t hear the noise. Like I said you have a right to talk about it just like I can say I never heard the focussing / pontification of this with Wentz.
On the cooper dejean getting beat on the out and up route, why did McCollum come all the way up to the flat when Baum had flat. That seemed like maybe coope was playing the out so hard because he thought safety would be back to cover deep???
That is what happens when you put in a player that has not been playing with a teammate all season. They don't know where each other will be. It effects chemistry at first it takes time for chemistry.
FINALLY someone addresses Hurts inability to run plays from Under Center. Our play action is non existent because of this! He absolutely is uncomfortable turning his back on the D. Hes been AWFUL the few times they’ve tried.
There's a big fan base here in San Antonio Texas. And love our Eagles. But we have been saying for a year now that Jalen holds on to the ball too long and at times indeceive. He was like this at Alabama. He really doesn't have a big arm but you can win with him. Will Jalen throw for 300+yards and 2 TDs per game NO unless playing from behind. He doesn't make many anticipation throws very often. When he is pressed to be somebody he's not turnovers happen. The coaching staff has to know this which is why they call plays that are simple for him. But how can anyone complain being 11-2. We would not be surprised if the Eagles drafted a QB in the first round in 2026.
You guys need to make the obvious glaring fact that Hurts, admittedly a good running QB, is deficient at pocket presence and figuring out where and how to escape and keep a pass play alive. Also, he seems deficient at going through his pattern progressions.
Manning, Wilson, and Roethlisberger won Super Bowls with dominant defenses, stout running games, and passing for around 120 yards a game. Hurts is top ten in just about every QB metric. The complaints about that guy are insane. These are the same kinds of frivolous complaints that destroyed Mcnabb and made him uncoachable. Personally, I wasn’t happy when they decided to go with Hurts. I wanted Deshaun Watson but Hurts was the right choice then. He is the right choice now.
@ huh?…reading comprehension problem? Pretty sure it’s obvious that using one of the NFL’s most dominant weapons to block cornerbacks is malpractice for any offense. The Eagle’s have the thirty first ranked passing game despite committing significantly more resources to the offensive side …yeah it makes no sense
@@timothye5936 yeah they need more balanced attack which has to include AJB. I'd be frustrated too. Qb coach and kellen Moore not doing a good job maybe? Idk
At the top of jalens drop the trailing defender played this perfectly. Yes jalen could risk it or pump to freeze him but the hot receiver is there. He made the right choice.... this is nonsense!!! I love you guys but jalen is reading the field better than he has in the past because in the past he would have thrown in double triple coverage
I think Jalen hurts is passive aggressively holding onto the ball to ridiculously high degree to camouflage his weaknesses in the passing game saying he’ll submit to whatever the offense is.
Greg is such a class act. Respect
Love this show! Very good breakdown of key passing plays.
excellent analysis and commentary appreciated, really improves enjoyment of the game to see this level of detail
please consider showing the play through first in real time before then going back with the analysis
please keep up the great work
Thanks, guys. I never miss this podcast!!! Appreciate IT🦅🦅🦅
Awesome show! Love hearing from Greg! Learn so much each week. Would like to have seen the breakdown on the 3rd down conversion throw to AJ in 4th qtr. Seemed that Jalen was decisive on that throw? Need to see more of that!
Hurts should do speed pass drills in practice. That is how Foles sped up his passing. He can fix his problem in season at practice.
Great analysis guys.
Good talk. I've been pulling for Hurts since he started, watching him grow into a very good qb. He's not really progressing like we'd all like. I think a lot of this has to fall on the qb's coach and kellen Moore?
Starts with the QB.
@@InsideTheBirds The QB coach is non-existent on Game day! Fans were the first to call this out when Brian Johnson was here but now it's less of a concern. I watched the game too and saw Hurts going through progressions and reads more than I've ever seen him do. Jalen Hurts was definitely off a bit but I don't understand why he's questioned and he improves every time. His timing was bad but the O line and DLine had been getting blown off the line against Carolina.
How would you know what the QBs coach is doing?
I agree a lot with what you say and I’m pulling for Hurts, (respect The Inside the birds opinion) but this is Kellen Moore first szn…. 1) 3rd playbook in 3 szns for a QB who isn’t an elite passer I feel like this is not taken into account…. 2) was listening to Seth Joyner, he feels there’s friction between Hurts & the Wr AJ/Smith, he believes that Hurts was intimating in his last presser that the WR are not where there supposed to be on plays and this is why he doesn’t let the ball rip because he’s unsure they will be in there spots.
Hurts has been better. Last week he took a step back. But overall he’s been planting his right foot and driving the ball. He just has to progress.
I'm no Greg Cossell but even before seeing this I said Jalen needs to get his ass under center and most of the Eagles pass plays should be off of play action. I dont care if he's not comfortable, you have to be comfortable being uncomfortable until he gets it right, he has just as good of arm talent as Purdy and Darnold, a lot of their pass plays is off of play action!!! Practice until you get it Hurts!! It's about getting better for yourself a d the team
Valid assessment
People have been saying this since last year, Jawoeski being one. Totally agree!
Wouldn't be shocked if they worked on this more next offseason......if Moore is still here.
Eagles Defense is going to take over the game.
My study of the film over the weeks confirms that Baun usually aligns to the tight end side.
Love it 🎉🎉🎉
Jordan DavIs needs to take a look at T'Vondre Sweat's game.
So Jalen is a one read QB, then it’s scramble to find another route or take off running. Jalen is killing this passing game.
The frightening thing is imagine Hurts on a team with a lousy O-line and no receivers. He's Justin Fields
The throw that should have gone to AJ would have possibly changed the whole thought of them not scoring in the first quarter since they haven't scored in the first quarter all season
We've frozen it quite a bit and asked people who played. Horn's leverage is toward Smith -- the opposite direction of Brown's route. The safety is trailing Brown. Brown is an elite WR. He has plenty of separation and a throw in stride is a big gain that's very clearly there. A good QB has to make this throw unless, as you wrote, he was told in the headset to check down. And then the question would be: why wouldn't you want your QB to make that throw when you drew up a 3-level stretch play designed to exploit the hole in the zone?
@@InsideTheBirds One possibility is because they had 20 yards to get the first down, and the longer pass has more of a chance for failure. A short pass is easier to complete and then they need another, say, 10 yards to make the first down. The TD pass to Calcaterra was Hurts rewarding Calcaterra for filling in for Goedert. Nothing else makes any sense. He had Smith and Brown wide open!
@@InsideTheBirds For some reason he was not confident in making that throw. There's is no way that the Jalen was asked to check down on this play by his coaches.
32:12 just a honest opinion…. I think the hyper focussing / nitpicking of TD passes and saying this guy or that guy was MORE OPEN on a successful play is something I’m not used to ! ….You have a right to talk about it but I can remember when Wentz drilled a 20 yard TD against Washington in the corner of the endzone. Every one raved that was an unbelievable pass between multiple defenders & no one mentioned Wentz had a wide open receiver in the endzone and it was a regular thing with Wentz going for the difficult TD pass & totally missing wide open WR in the endzone and I didn’t hear the noise. Like I said you have a right to talk about it just like I can say I never heard the focussing / pontification of this with Wentz.
On the cooper dejean getting beat on the out and up route, why did McCollum come all the way up to the flat when Baum had flat. That seemed like maybe coope was playing the out so hard because he thought safety would be back to cover deep???
That is what happens when you put in a player that has not been playing with a teammate all season. They don't know where each other will be. It effects chemistry at first it takes time for chemistry.
Lol…. He was open on that first play just like he was against Seattle last year, resulting in a game ending int. And its the same play!!!
FINALLY someone addresses Hurts inability to run plays from Under Center. Our play action is non existent because of this! He absolutely is uncomfortable turning his back on the D. Hes been AWFUL the few times they’ve tried.
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watch the first drive …and delete your nonsense
What? most of his long passes this year have been from play action. Including his career long throw against the Bengals.
@@jadenblackerby3325these idiots just say anything
Good point... I don't think he trusts his eyes when he's under center🦅🦅🦅
He's reading the trailing defender too therefore abort to hot route.
There's a big fan base here in San Antonio Texas. And love our Eagles. But we have been saying for a year now that Jalen holds on to the ball too long and at times indeceive. He was like this at Alabama. He really doesn't have a big arm but you can win with him. Will Jalen throw for 300+yards and 2 TDs per game NO unless playing from behind. He doesn't make many anticipation throws very often. When he is pressed to be somebody he's not turnovers happen. The coaching staff has to know this which is why they call plays that are simple for him. But how can anyone complain being 11-2. We would not be surprised if the Eagles drafted a QB in the first round in 2026.
He actually has solid arm strength. Certainly not an issue.
You guys need to make the obvious glaring fact that Hurts, admittedly a good running QB, is deficient at pocket presence and figuring out where and how to escape and keep a pass play alive. Also, he seems deficient at going through his pattern progressions.
You must be new around here. Go back to every or any inside the tape show where we discussed Hurts for your answer.
Manning, Wilson, and Roethlisberger won Super Bowls with dominant defenses, stout running games, and passing for around 120 yards a game. Hurts is top ten in just about every QB metric.
The complaints about that guy are insane. These are the same kinds of frivolous complaints that destroyed Mcnabb and made him uncoachable.
Personally, I wasn’t happy when they decided to go with Hurts. I wanted Deshaun Watson but Hurts was the right choice then. He is the right choice now.
FYI: our analysis is tape based only, which is the way teams do it.
Greg Cosell was a tiny bit more forthcoming about his thoughts on Hurts on another show. He was a little more critical.
FYI...we don't go over every play. If we did...you can figure it out.
Okay... this is just me.. if the picture isn't clear with Hurts... he'd rather play hero than address his vision in the pass game
Flashes of the yips by Hurts.
AJ is too dominant and talented to be relegated to a highly paid run blocker…makes no sense?
wins make no sense?
@ huh?…reading comprehension problem? Pretty sure it’s obvious that using one of the NFL’s most dominant weapons to block cornerbacks is malpractice for any offense. The Eagle’s have the thirty first ranked passing game despite committing significantly more resources to the offensive side …yeah it makes no sense
@@timothye5936 yeah they need more balanced attack which has to include AJB. I'd be frustrated too. Qb coach and kellen Moore not doing a good job maybe? Idk
At the top of jalens drop the trailing defender played this perfectly. Yes jalen could risk it or pump to freeze him but the hot receiver is there. He made the right choice.... this is nonsense!!! I love you guys but jalen is reading the field better than he has in the past because in the past he would have thrown in double triple coverage
I think Jalen hurts is passive aggressively holding onto the ball to ridiculously high degree to camouflage his weaknesses in the passing game saying he’ll submit to whatever the offense is.
Totally agree!
I dont think the are running wat the practice bcuz he looking too uncertain
Cosell is great and fair in his assement, but Mosher is a total Hurts apologist.
Wow, that's a first. Most of the comments on here say the opposite about Mosher.
@@InsideTheBirdsAnyone who doesn't think Jalen Hurts sucks and can't throw is an apologist according to these pea brains.
I don't know why you guys are being so apolgetic. Hurts has looked bad. Period! With this telnet Hurts be throwing for 300 yard without even trying.
Hey guys, the Eagles don't play good at home,,like they play on the road, just my opinion,
Played very well against Washington