A review on the sym joymax z+ 300 scooter PLEASE LIKE,SHARE AND SUBSCRIBE THANKS :) kindly loaned by poole moto poolemoto.co.uk Music: www.purple-pla...
Great review Mark. For the first time ever I would probably take this over a Honda equivalent (Forza 350). Why? Because the Sym has virtually the same effortless performance and a screen which is nearly as good, excellent economy, huge under-seat storage, decent warranty, is similar weight, and quite a bit cheaper. Provided you can find a Sym dealer to do the in-warranty servicing this is a far better value machine than the Honda. I'm very impressed by the comfort, speed, brakes, and the lower seat is better for many riders. Never mind "light" touring. This scooter could easily do a long multi-national tour with tons of luggage, and you could get away with just a light extra bag strapped to the back seat. Excellent machine!
Bloke I worked with switched to a Maxi Scooter, said he’d wished he’d done it years ago Loves them. Such an incredibly relaxing riding position was my impression.
I need to back one into my lockup. 4’step with a 5ft scaffold board. How hard do you thing this would be, at the moment I have a SYM fiddle, and a piaggio Hexagon Gtx250
Took delivery of the 300 Cruisym last week . Very impressed . The only problem I have experienced is filling with petrol . The design indicates that you will be expected to fill the scooter with a milk jug . A very slow filler
I rode the Forza 125 and then the Joymax and can say that the seating position and the screen are superior on the Joymax. I think it's a good looking machine and if you can get a used one they are a bargain.
I own a 155 cc scooter but have recently established that the riding position hurts my lower back after a while. I have started using my 390 Duke as my everyday bike. The scooter is now just for the village. No great loss as the 390 is miles more fun. As ever, a thorough review.
@@markpulling12 It certainly is. I am going to buy an 790 Adventure R over here as they are made in SE Asia still for the Asian market. But I will keep the 390. Just managed to get to the local 7-Eleven and back on the scooter without my back hurting.
I think you are the best reviewer on you tube. Thank you for your efforts and the variety of machines you review. What about a long term review on your own bikes or maybe a sponsored bike, you deserve it.
Hurray! Mark Pulling Reviewing SYM. So nice I clicked thumb up 3 times. I own 2 from the brand Mio and Fiddle 3. You might have seen me on the road ;-). Proper pronunciation is S Y M like B M W but it's a mistake so common you just have to live with, kind of like "been" in America as "ben", "h" in UK as "heidz" not "eidz" or perhaps I'm being a bit nerdy. Best value for money on the market.
Very similar spec to my 2021 Forza 300. They really need to get to grips with those short service intervals though, not that much cheaper than a Honda to buy. Great video by the way👍
It seems every SYM distributor in every country chooses it’s own service interval…3,000 Km is a little pathetic nowadays 😣 On the other side of the spectrum Royal Enfield chose to increase service intervals on their Meteor. In Israel these water cooled SYMs have a 5000 km service interval. No one beats Honda though 👍👍👍 Thank you 🙏
Unfortunately this is the Chinese Market. They just require a little more maintenance than Convenient motors. Unfortunately it's due to the amount of limitations of dealerships. Not many dealerships will touch a chinese/Taiwanese bike. Hence why the short intervals.
I'm slightly concerned about a 300 Joymax, it sounds like something from the backpages of an Ann Summers catalogue 😆 Hopefully when a battery one is released it will have a quick recharge time to quell rider range anxieties 😉
Very good Clip about the Sym 300. Thank you for your work. 👍 I think sym is one of the most underestimatet Brands of Motorscooters in Europe. Most drive Vespa, Honda or yamaha or kymco. I have a 125 sym jet and will switch to the joymax z+ 300.
Sym and Kymco - the hidden gems of the scooter world. People tend to ignore them but those in the know will tell you just how good they are. Sym don't offer a 5 year warranty for nothing, cracking machine and build quality
I am 78 and have been ridding a 2012 Kymco Like 200i and now have 17,000 miles with no problems other than a brake pad change, and tires, and of course oil changes and valve adjustments. Very underrated manufacture who actually builds the BMW max scooter and the G 310cc engine for BMW and others. Lack of advertising and little known in the US. They are the 3rd largest manufacture of scooters in the world. They have built components for Honda for decades also.
I'm glad to hear this. I got my first vehicle in April. It is a Sym Jet RX 125cc. I bloody love my little bike. When the time comes for something bigger I think I'm still sticking with Sym.
OK, my first concern is that ecm unit under the seat near the rear wheel with all the wires just begging for some scrot to run a box knife across em, seriously couldn't they have found a better place 🤷🏻♂️
It looks more like its the Regulator Rectifier . Good position for that as it gets cooling air , should ensure longevity. They usually bury them away under the bodywork where they will run hotter.
I was going to buy the Honda forza however I came across the Zontes 310m absolutely amazing bike low seat height 33bhp great miles per. Gallon tft screen electric adjustable windshield abs tire monitoring system etc watch Marks review of that bike
Hi Richard ...no sorry I've no experience sadly it's a bit of a dark horse that one .. never see them but wow what a spec :) I'll keep a look out ...looks like a tmax
Loving your reviews Mr P! I know that most of your test bikes are only loaned for a hour or two, but if/when you get a bike for 24hrs or longer please can you do a night ride and headlight review as this is a really important safety aspect for me. Thanks buddy.
Excellent review, as usual, Mark. I like this scooter... ticks all the boxes except for service intervals. But frequent oil changes is the best guarantee for longevity, isn't it. It's just that 2,000 miles seems a little low. I would have expected 3,000 to be honest. Makes me wonder a little... Anyone out there with milage experience with the SYM? Thanks, Gord
Hi Gord ...I think it's just sym being overly cautious ...with modern oils 3000 miles is absolutely fine ...the Honda Forza 350 is 8000 miles ? ...once out of warranty I'd just change the oil myself anyway ...it's only a couple of litres and a bolt to undo ...very simple servicing on these .... great scooter ...I'm impressed with it's build quality Cheers mark
I have to question the claim that two helmets can fit under the seat. I can't get one full face helmet in, let alone two. I can just about get an open face helmet in though but the clain is very misleading.
Excellent review, I’m a big fan of the maxi scooters having owned a Suzuki Burgman and Yamaha T Max when I used to commute into London (100 mile round trip) every day until being made redundant when the company moved location. The Sym and Kymco maxi scooters do look good and if I was in the market again for a maxi I would seriously take a look at them as they undercut the Japanese in price. I only have a very short commute these days so use a 125cc scooter. Can you test any of the Royal Alloy scooters?
@@markpulling12 Thanks, thinking about replacing my 125cc Lexmoto scooter next year So I’m looking at either another small scooter or 125cc motorcycle for my commute and nipping out shopping instead of getting a bigger bike out.
@@markpulling12 Hi mark I've a question for you I'm interested to know what your thoughts are about a comparison of the 300cc bracket, how would this stack up against, say a x max 300cc or a Forza 300 / 350 / I need something comfortable and fairly nippy. I've got CF moto 650 GT on the strength of your review and that's a good bike so trust your opinion cheers
@@paulblatchford4234 hi Paul the Forza and xmax are top end scooters £5500/6000 ish if you want a cheaper one the sym is good but I'd go for the zontes 310m it rides very well...I have a review on it and here is a link www.ebay.co.uk/itm/155007199902?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=8QL0T4VDTSC&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=GFt860-0RWW&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
@@markpulling12 Thanks mark last question for you is the Zontes 310m much smaller than the Sym if so I might struggle as I'm quite big I've sat on the sym and the bars hit my knees on full lock but I can get away with it I think.
Hi it won't be much to service ..just a check and an oil change ...it's just sym being overly cautious ....with modern oils you could easily stretch to 3000,/4000 miles on these which is what I'd do once it's out of the warranty period ..Honda Forza 350 is 8000 miles ??? Best regards mark
Interesting that Chinese scooters seem to be made for shorter riders while Honda etc seem to think everyone is a giant. Surprised the adjustable seat hasn't been invented to widen appeal of Honda etc to shorter riders
@@pipolow5478 Taiwanese, but they do have production facilities in China and Vietnam and of course Taiwan. My point is that bikes from that part of the world seem to come with lower seat heights, as the majority of bike sales are in countries where people are shorter than Europe and the States it seems odd that the lives of honda don't really have many offerings for the shorter rider.
@@SurreyAlan words have meanings that are important, especially in regards to Taiwan and China. You turned your comment around. Honda too have factories in China so your point about Taiwanese scooters being for shorter riders because they're made in China is irrelevant. China and Taiwan just aren't the same thing.
Sym back up in the past has been crap. I had a 300 a few years back. Rear suspension brackets broke and couldn’t get replacement shocks. Selling garage took it back after trying for 4 months to get replacements. Beware.
19:20 "You can probably pick up a good used one..." You're either dreaming or live in the future. I can't even find this model in the global SYM website yet. How in the world am I going to find a used one?
Yeah, additionally Lets not forget that the Honda Forza 350 is also some 33mm (1.3") taller in the saddle than the JoyMaz Z +, which may register as a no-no for riders of shorter statue. Of interest, its possible that Honda kicked off the resent (Maxi) motor scooter craze (compared to the original 1950s Vespa category . . with manual transmission & twist gearchange), with their early 1980s Helix (CN250) with its non-repeated 665 mm (26.2 in) Seat Height. So, lets not forget that Honda has turned its back on the preferences of riders of shorter statue.
Unfortunately that's down to limitations of dealerships. Hence why they want sooner intervals. Not many dealerships will touch chinese/Taiwanese bikes.
Not a good name sounds like a sex toy ."Hey what you riding , a Joymax ,have fun mmmmmmmmmmmmm". What makes it worse is the name is plastered all over the side lol,for all the world too see that your riding a Joymax ........🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Not for me.
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Great review Mark. For the first time ever I would probably take this over a Honda equivalent (Forza 350). Why? Because the Sym has virtually the same effortless performance and a screen which is nearly as good, excellent economy, huge under-seat storage, decent warranty, is similar weight, and quite a bit cheaper. Provided you can find a Sym dealer to do the in-warranty servicing this is a far better value machine than the Honda. I'm very impressed by the comfort, speed, brakes, and the lower seat is better for many riders. Never mind "light" touring. This scooter could easily do a long multi-national tour with tons of luggage, and you could get away with just a light extra bag strapped to the back seat. Excellent machine!
Thanks well said
Happy Christmas 🎄
Honda has 8k miles compare to Sym's 2k miles. Wouldn't be bothered by buying Taiwanese TBH
Bloke I worked with switched to a Maxi Scooter, said he’d wished he’d done it years ago
Loves them.
Such an incredibly relaxing riding position was my impression.
Thanks Peter yes they are very comfortable cheers mark
I have it for 3 years now, it's excellent scooter.... Max speed 140km/h
Thanks sounds great 👍
I need to back one into my lockup. 4’step with a 5ft scaffold board.
How hard do you thing this would be, at the moment I have a SYM fiddle,
and a piaggio Hexagon Gtx250
Took delivery of the 300 Cruisym last week . Very impressed . The only problem I have experienced is filling with petrol . The design indicates that you will be expected to fill the scooter with a milk jug . A very slow filler
I rode the Forza 125 and then the Joymax and can say that the seating position and the screen are superior on the Joymax. I think it's a good looking machine and if you can get a used one they are a bargain.
I own a 155 cc scooter but have recently established that the riding position hurts my lower back after a while. I have started using my 390 Duke as my everyday bike. The scooter is now just for the village. No great loss as the 390 is miles more fun.
As ever, a thorough review.
Thanks nik ...love the duke 390 ..such good vfm cheers mark
@@markpulling12 It certainly is. I am going to buy an 790 Adventure R over here as they are made in SE Asia still for the Asian market. But I will keep the 390. Just managed to get to the local 7-Eleven and back on the scooter without my back hurting.
can't beat a scooter for city ride man, automatic transmission and more comfortable than a motorcycle
I think you are the best reviewer on you tube. Thank you for your efforts and the variety of machines you review. What about a long term review on your own bikes or maybe a sponsored bike, you deserve it.
Thanks for the kind words 🙂
Hurray! Mark Pulling Reviewing SYM. So nice I clicked thumb up 3 times. I own 2 from the brand Mio and Fiddle 3. You might have seen me on the road ;-). Proper pronunciation is S Y M like B M W but it's a mistake so common you just have to live with, kind of like "been" in America as "ben", "h" in UK as "heidz" not "eidz" or perhaps I'm being a bit nerdy. Best value for money on the market.
Thanks for the thumbs ups :)
Very similar spec to my 2021 Forza 300. They really need to get to grips with those short service intervals though, not that much cheaper than a Honda to buy. Great video by the way👍
Thanks Johnathan ...yes never ridden a sym before ...nice quality tbh cheers mark
It seems every SYM distributor in every country chooses it’s own service interval…3,000 Km is a little pathetic nowadays 😣
On the other side of the spectrum Royal Enfield chose to increase service intervals on their Meteor.
In Israel these water cooled SYMs have a 5000 km service interval.
No one beats Honda though 👍👍👍
Thank you 🙏
Unfortunately this is the Chinese Market. They just require a little more maintenance than Convenient motors. Unfortunately it's due to the amount of limitations of dealerships. Not many dealerships will touch a chinese/Taiwanese bike. Hence why the short intervals.
I recommend changing the oil regularly,
I'm slightly concerned about a 300 Joymax, it sounds like something from the backpages of an Ann Summers catalogue 😆 Hopefully when a battery one is released it will have a quick recharge time to quell rider range anxieties 😉
Haha lol ...I was waiting for this comment ...I had to double take myself when I read the name of it lololol :)
YYYYYYeeeessssss .
Very good Clip about the Sym 300. Thank you for your work. 👍 I think sym is one of the most underestimatet Brands of Motorscooters in Europe. Most drive Vespa, Honda or yamaha or kymco. I have a 125 sym jet and will switch to the joymax z+ 300.
Sym and Kymco - the hidden gems of the scooter world. People tend to ignore them but those in the know will tell you just how good they are. Sym don't offer a 5 year warranty for nothing, cracking machine and build quality
Have to agree there...the build quality is great 👍
I am 78 and have been ridding a 2012 Kymco Like 200i and now have 17,000 miles with no problems other than a brake pad change, and tires, and of course oil changes and valve adjustments. Very underrated manufacture who actually builds the BMW max scooter and the G 310cc engine for BMW and others. Lack of advertising and little known in the US. They are the 3rd largest manufacture of scooters in the world. They have built components for Honda for decades also.
not familiar with Sym but I know Kymco has been making solid scooters for decades now
I'm glad to hear this. I got my first vehicle in April. It is a Sym Jet RX 125cc. I bloody love my little bike. When the time comes for something bigger I think I'm still sticking with Sym.
The Taiwanese make the best scooters. Sym and Kymco have perfected the process.
Mark, that was an incredibly thorough review. Thank you.
Thanks Greg my pleasure
I'm pretty sure this scooter shares its running gear with the j300. Personally I prefer the latter. Better looking and nicer clocks.
OK, my first concern is that ecm unit under the seat near the rear wheel with all the wires just begging for some scrot to run a box knife across em, seriously couldn't they have found a better place 🤷🏻♂️
It looks more like its the Regulator Rectifier . Good position for that as it gets cooling air , should ensure longevity. They usually bury them away under the bodywork where they will run hotter.
I was going to buy the Honda forza however I came across the Zontes 310m absolutely amazing bike low seat height 33bhp great miles per. Gallon tft screen electric adjustable windshield abs tire monitoring system etc watch Marks review of that bike
Many thanks 👍
Great video...which did you prefer..this or lexmoto aura 300
Hi Charlie I'd go for the sym ...just a bit physically bigger and nicer to ride
Cheers mark
worth the extra £1200 would you say
@@charlieboyvespa8610 yes I would...It has nicer build quality..even better is the Forza 350 but it's quite tall in the seat
Cheers mark
@@markpulling12 that's the thing. If I was going to get the joymax I may as well get the new honda adv 350. Have you tried a sym jet x yet
@@charlieboyvespa8610 no but they look good 😊
2k miles service intervals? Cmon. Can't compete with Hondas 8k. Forza or the adv 350 far better choice. Great review though.
Totally agreed and depreciation will be substantial
Hi great review, how is it for two up and up hills? Total weight for both of us is 122kgs
Hi yes it would take on hills no problems...I've ridden up hills 2 up on similar scooters at easily 50 mph plus best wishes mark
@@markpulling12 thank you
Very nice the sum maxi 300 scooter mark it's looks smooth rides nice great review as always thanks👍
Thanks 👍
Hey Mark. Enjoy your channel. Do you have any opinion on the Kymco AK550?
Hi Richard ...no sorry I've no experience sadly it's a bit of a dark horse that one .. never see them but wow what a spec :)
I'll keep a look out ...looks like a tmax
They are new here in the US. Looks and sounds really nice.
I have had one for a week. The acceleration is so extreme you don't dare to touch the accelerator. Really a bike for people with years of experience.
Hi Mark any plans to ride the SYM maxsym 508 TL I would love to see how that rides
Hi Paul they have one at Poole Moto not on demo but I'll see if I can persuade them :)
That would be great as I like the look of that
Loving your reviews Mr P! I know that most of your test bikes are only loaned for a hour or two, but if/when you get a bike for 24hrs or longer please can you do a night ride and headlight review as this is a really important safety aspect for me. Thanks buddy.
Thanks will do :)
Next Maxsym TL 500 please 😉👍
Great review mark I really like that and u undercuts its rivals it's a no brainer.
Thanks James it's quality looks good too :)
Excellent review, as usual, Mark. I like this scooter... ticks all the boxes except for service intervals.
But frequent oil changes is the best guarantee for longevity, isn't it. It's just that 2,000 miles seems a little low. I would have expected 3,000 to be honest. Makes me wonder a little...
Anyone out there with milage experience with the SYM?
Thanks,
Gord
Hi Gord ...I think it's just sym being overly cautious ...with modern oils 3000 miles is absolutely fine ...the Honda Forza 350 is 8000 miles ? ...once out of warranty I'd just change the oil myself anyway ...it's only a couple of litres and a bolt to undo ...very simple servicing on these .... great scooter ...I'm impressed with it's build quality
Cheers mark
@@markpulling12 Thanks for the additional feedback, Mark. Much appreciated!:)
Gord
I have to question the claim that two helmets can fit under the seat. I can't get one full face helmet in, let alone two. I can just about get an open face helmet in though but the clain is very misleading.
Excellent review, I’m a big fan of the maxi scooters having owned a Suzuki Burgman and Yamaha T Max when I used to commute into London (100 mile round trip) every day until being made redundant when the company moved location. The Sym and Kymco maxi scooters do look good and if I was in the market again for a maxi I would seriously take a look at them as they undercut the Japanese in price. I only have a very short commute these days so use a 125cc scooter. Can you test any of the Royal Alloy scooters?
Thanks Dave ...I'll see if I can get hold of one cheers mark
@@markpulling12 Thanks, thinking about replacing my 125cc Lexmoto scooter next year So I’m looking at either another small scooter or 125cc motorcycle for my commute and nipping out shopping instead of getting a bigger bike out.
Oh Dear Mark, your special introduction music used to be totally brilliant, please bring it back/
Haha point noted 🙂
Hi Mark❗
Thanks for the review 👍🏻
My pleasure!
Hi dose the speedo read in KPH OR MPH On the outside ring cheers
From memory it's kmh on the outer ring
@@markpulling12 Hi mark I've a question for you I'm interested to know what your thoughts are about a comparison of the 300cc bracket, how would this stack up against, say a
x max 300cc or a Forza 300 / 350 / I need something comfortable and fairly nippy. I've got CF moto 650 GT on the strength of your review and that's a good bike so trust your opinion cheers
@@paulblatchford4234 hi Paul the Forza and xmax are top end scooters £5500/6000 ish if you want a cheaper one the sym is good but I'd go for the zontes 310m it rides very well...I have a review on it and here is a link
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/155007199902?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=8QL0T4VDTSC&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=GFt860-0RWW&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
@@markpulling12 Thanks mark last question for you is the Zontes 310m much smaller than the Sym if so I might struggle as I'm quite big I've sat on the sym and the bars hit my knees on full lock but I can get away with it I think.
@@paulblatchford4234 hi Paul yes the zontes is smaller than the sym
Mark u heard anything about the Honda ADV 350 comin
No nothing yet 🙂
@@markpulling12 honda really have some top secret level of confidentiality, not even one photo i can find on the net a week away from its launch….
@@insu1569 really hope it comes to the uk !
@@markpulling12 yo mark its just unveiled at EICMA sharing the forza 350 platform
How much is the service. Why such close intervals? 😎🇨🇦
Hi it won't be much to service ..just a check and an oil change ...it's just sym being overly cautious ....with modern oils you could easily stretch to 3000,/4000 miles on these which is what I'd do once it's out of the warranty period ..Honda Forza 350 is 8000 miles ???
Best regards mark
Looks like you've been very busy lately
Haha. Yes and loads new models due in November :)
The Joymax!! Sounds like something you'd buy the wife from Ann Summers.. Is it ribbed for her pleasure 😅😅
Definitely there is a joymax 2 coming to an Anne summers catalogue soon
Cheers mark:) :) 😀
@@markpulling12 great video mark. My brother has this scooter and loves it...
Interesting that Chinese scooters seem to be made for shorter riders while Honda etc seem to think everyone is a giant. Surprised the adjustable seat hasn't been invented to widen appeal of Honda etc to shorter riders
It's not chinese...
@@pipolow5478 Taiwanese, but they do have production facilities in China and Vietnam and of course Taiwan. My point is that bikes from that part of the world seem to come with lower seat heights, as the majority of bike sales are in countries where people are shorter than Europe and the States it seems odd that the lives of honda don't really have many offerings for the shorter rider.
@@SurreyAlan words have meanings that are important, especially in regards to Taiwan and China. You turned your comment around. Honda too have factories in China so your point about Taiwanese scooters being for shorter riders because they're made in China is irrelevant. China and Taiwan just aren't the same thing.
Sym back up in the past has been crap. I had a 300 a few years back. Rear suspension brackets broke and couldn’t get replacement shocks. Selling garage took it back after trying for 4 months to get replacements. Beware.
I'm in Korea. I own SYM Z+300 Can I get a maintenance manual?Link, please
www.manualslib.com/products/Sym-Joymax-ZPlus-12085482.html
@@markpulling12
Sorry
maintenance manual 😢
@@coffeeandcigarettes5460 ok there should be a download owners section on the sym website:)
bro, is there a difference between joymax and joymax Z ? im confused lol
Hi the z is just the newer model I believe with a few upgrades but the joymax is still very good cheers mark
another question if possible, can u go 100 kmh on the highway all day long as i have heard with this 300cc?
Hi yes 100 kmh is easy all day long on this ,it will do about 135 kmh top speed regards mark
@@markpulling12 big love Mark for the quick responds
Scooter power 💥🤩🥇🇦🇺💪🏼
Definitely Stevie !
I wish you’d stop uploading these scooter videos as not sure how much longer I can resist 😉👌🏻👍🏻
Haha 😂
Woohoo a scooter of a decent size I can buy in the States! In my region if youre not going 80, youre gonna die on the highway.. people are crazy!
Thanks glad to hear that you can get this in the states
Not exactly Honda quality nor the Forza's 8000mile service intervals. I'd rather pay the extra and have a Forza 350 (which I've ordered).
Great choice :) the Forza
@@markpulling12 Thanks Mark. Ride safe.
I bought a BMW C400GT, expensive, but quality!!
@@cloggsy1971 Nice bike.
When i lived in Spain these are everywhere with substantial kms recorded? So must be ok. Had an xmax for yrs not a problem ever
19:20 "You can probably pick up a good used one..."
You're either dreaming or live in the future. I can't even find this model in the global SYM website yet. How in the world am I going to find a used one?
Hi ...if you are in the uk this one is for sale at a good saving on new or maybe a used cruisym model
Cheers mark
Oh yeah and let's not forget the honda forza 350 is only £500 more with much better equipment 😁
Got to agree, it needs to be cheaper or most folks will pony up the extra £500 for a proven better scooter.
Yeah, additionally Lets not forget that the Honda Forza 350 is also some 33mm (1.3") taller in the saddle than the JoyMaz Z +, which may register as a no-no for riders of shorter statue.
Of interest, its possible that Honda kicked off the resent (Maxi) motor scooter craze (compared to the original 1950s Vespa category . . with manual transmission & twist gearchange), with their early 1980s Helix (CN250) with its non-repeated 665 mm (26.2 in) Seat Height.
So, lets not forget that Honda has turned its back on the preferences of riders of shorter statue.
But used they are a steal. You can't get one with less than 700 miles on it for £3600.
Seriously 2000 mile service interval! If correct it's absolutely rubbish for a 21st century bike!
Yes correct ...think I'd just diy :)
Once out of warranty
Cheers mark
@@markpulling12 agree, I'm sorry but that's terrible 🤷🏻♂️
Shame it sounds like a sextoy 🤣
New batteries please !!!
bad processing!!
Very poor service intervals
Unfortunately that's down to limitations of dealerships. Hence why they want sooner intervals. Not many dealerships will touch chinese/Taiwanese bikes.
2000 miles services. No thanks
Mark...the new adv 350 from honda definitely looks worth a look
Not a good name sounds like a sex toy ."Hey what you riding , a Joymax ,have fun mmmmmmmmmmmmm". What makes it worse is the name is plastered all over the side lol,for all the world too see that your riding a Joymax ........🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Not for me.
Yes I thought that !!! Lol