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  • This has always been one of my absolute favorite visual proofs!
    This sum 1 + 1/2 +1/3 +... is call the harmonic series. This is a great math proof showing why the harmonic series diverges! (We basically use the integral test for series)
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  • @BriTheMathGuy
    @BriTheMathGuy  2 ปีที่แล้ว +548

    Watch This Next!
    th-cam.com/video/rH2wqZ58eFw/w-d-xo.html

  • @shinobix4925
    @shinobix4925 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20282

    Infinity + infinity = infinity so I guess the answer is at least 2

    • @RubyPiec
      @RubyPiec 2 ปีที่แล้ว +591

      nah it's like at least 7

    • @lyrimetacurl0
      @lyrimetacurl0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +394

      It's at least TREE(G(64))

    • @romi5073
      @romi5073 2 ปีที่แล้ว +111

      @@lyrimetacurl0 ^Rayos numbers

    • @krashsytegaming9222
      @krashsytegaming9222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      @@romi5073 eulers number

    • @TheMarkzon
      @TheMarkzon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +90

      I feel like it's more than 1 but never 2

  • @that1dudem
    @that1dudem ปีที่แล้ว +6920

    Year 2, month 7, day 23: I'm starting to think this may be a loop

    • @gurpreetsingh7582
      @gurpreetsingh7582 ปีที่แล้ว +138

      You can't be more wrong my friend

    • @maxz69
      @maxz69 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      You see the red bar underneath

    • @that1dudem
      @that1dudem ปีที่แล้ว +111

      @@maxz69 bruh it was a joke

    • @maxz69
      @maxz69 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@that1dudem I know but it's not as if the bar isnt visible. It isn't a joke if it's obvious that it isn't a joke

    • @bartek7383
      @bartek7383 ปีที่แล้ว +93

      ​@@maxz69 🤓

  • @piotrosiejuk4961
    @piotrosiejuk4961 ปีที่แล้ว +133

    More elegant proof:
    1+
    1/2+
    1/3+1/4+ (sum of those 2 is larger than 1/2)
    1/5+1/6+1/7+1/8 +(sum of those 4 is larger than 1/2)
    ...
    You can keep on adding further "chains" (length 8, 16, 32 and so on), each with value of at least 1/2 (pretty obvious). This gives you an infinite number of 1/2s. This is infinity.

    • @gustafbstrom
      @gustafbstrom 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      This is better than the clip IMHO. Nice one.

    • @theforbiddenfruit2300
      @theforbiddenfruit2300 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah this made more sense than the vid

  • @quasarolive9136
    @quasarolive9136 ปีที่แล้ว +2385

    All infinities are great. But some infinities are greater than others.
    - George Orwell

    • @sreekanthhere
      @sreekanthhere ปีที่แล้ว +71

      George Cantor

    • @elchucapablas
      @elchucapablas ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Not all infinites are created equal

    • @quasarolive9136
      @quasarolive9136 ปีที่แล้ว +100

      @@sreekanthhere Oh wow- actually, I was just making that stuff up after George Orwell's quote in Animal Farm "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." I didn't realize until now that George Cantor had said the same thing 150 years ago. Haha- thanks for letting me know.

    • @govinddwivedi582
      @govinddwivedi582 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      One infinite good, two infinite better

    • @LightningStrike691
      @LightningStrike691 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@sreekanthhere “nuh-uh” - L.E.J Brouwer

  • @cosinex8361
    @cosinex8361 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6500

    In math, we have pretty much committed to memory: harmonic series always diverges

    • @skylardeslypere9909
      @skylardeslypere9909 2 ปีที่แล้ว +205

      I like how things like 1+2+4+8+... "make sense" when looking at the analytic continuation of the Riemann Zeta function, but even then the harmonic series still diverges. It really can't catch a break

    • @elizathegamer413
      @elizathegamer413 2 ปีที่แล้ว +90

      If p

    • @CasanovaLucas
      @CasanovaLucas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      CosineX yeah, but why? (the videos shows the reason about this divergence)

    • @matei5929
      @matei5929 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@CasanovaLucas By the integral test. For a sum 1/n^p with p=1 in this case (although it applies to any value of p1, the antiderivative still has some p in the denominator so the series converges.

    • @CasanovaLucas
      @CasanovaLucas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@matei5929 that was a rethoric question my friend hahahaha

  • @HenrikhWolf
    @HenrikhWolf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1291

    No comment about the perfect loop?
    whoa

    • @bonkser
      @bonkser 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      i was looking for one

    • @jose000
      @jose000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeaa

    • @alifram117
      @alifram117 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I was about to watch it for the 2nd time lol

    • @joetrident
      @joetrident 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It's been long enough for people not to care about this anymore

    • @yektaagra741
      @yektaagra741 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@joetrident its the only one which caught me off in a while now, it deserves my respect at least

  • @SupremeST25
    @SupremeST25 ปีที่แล้ว +849

    How many times are you gonna ask me bro😭😭i wanna go home

    • @albert.einstein602
      @albert.einstein602 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      fr bro is playing with us😭

    • @MrDiceZack
      @MrDiceZack 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Infinite amount of times obviously

    • @hjthegamer4445
      @hjthegamer4445 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Bro stuck in loop 😢

  • @The_Honored_One_Inf
    @The_Honored_One_Inf 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    For the next person to say the answer is ~2, that only applies to a sequence where the bottom number doubles every time. In this sequence it goes over two right after 1/3.

    • @The_Honored_One_Inf
      @The_Honored_One_Inf 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @seanclemson9554 supertasks are a philosophical thing, not really mathematical. I guess you could call it mathematical but usually supertasks are contradictory or paradoxical like the grim reaper supertask.

  • @Matthew_Klepadlo
    @Matthew_Klepadlo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1715

    Ah yes, the endless truth of calculus: infinitely many things that are infinitely small giving you an exact solution to a problem…

    • @thomasmiller8476
      @thomasmiller8476 2 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      Ahhh it's relieving to know that infinity-infinity can equal anywhere between negative infinity and positive infinity. Wait no. That stresses me out. Why calculus! WHY!!!

    • @zlosliwa_menda
      @zlosliwa_menda 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      The video literally shows you that no, it doesn't always give you an exact solution. No, infinity isn't an "exact solution".

    • @e.Kab.
      @e.Kab. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@zlosliwa_menda Congratulations!!! _Matthew Klepadlo_ has introduced you to *Sarcasm* yayyy! 🥳👏

    • @zlosliwa_menda
      @zlosliwa_menda 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@e.Kab. Why would he be sarcastic about this?

    • @Josh729J
      @Josh729J 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It gives you a very close approximation.

  • @m.a8335
    @m.a8335 2 ปีที่แล้ว +397

    + You just can't add infinite numbers
    - Hold my integral

  • @mehulmishra7630
    @mehulmishra7630 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This can be understood from the Machlaurian series expansion of Log(1-x) .. putting x = 1 which gives the answer infinity.

  • @PepeChess-vh5ef
    @PepeChess-vh5ef 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    It's called harmonic series and with n approaching infinity the sum will also be infinite. You can find a nice proof of it on wikipedia

  • @timm1328
    @timm1328 2 ปีที่แล้ว +688

    “put the excess area in a cap and call it Mascheroni”

    • @Qermaq
      @Qermaq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      You're yanking my doodle!

    • @gytoser801
      @gytoser801 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Can you prove is it rational or irrational

    • @timm1328
      @timm1328 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      I have a truly marvelous demonstration that it is irrational that this TH-cam comment is too narrow to contain.

    • @oni8337
      @oni8337 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@gytoser801 You really think that can be answered right here right now huh

    • @channalbert
      @channalbert 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      *”Euler-Mascheroni”, but then again, if we apply this all over mathematics, every constant and theorem would be “Euler-Someone Else”

  • @dannon9699
    @dannon9699 2 ปีที่แล้ว +190

    “Just under two” me every time someone asks if I know my limit.

    • @1996Pinocchio
      @1996Pinocchio ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Then, the limit is 2, not "just under two".

  • @petrificustotalus9307
    @petrificustotalus9307 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Mom the video isn’t ending

  • @brad1ey50
    @brad1ey50 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Yet 1-1/2+1/3-1/4+…=ln(2). Fascinating

  • @simonecoppola8149
    @simonecoppola8149 2 ปีที่แล้ว +269

    The result is so harmonic

  • @Deathranger999
    @Deathranger999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    My favorite explanation for why the harmonic series diverges is this: we can collect every 2^n terms and observe that their sum is at least 1/2. For example:
    1 > 1/2
    1/2 >= 1/2
    1/3 + 1/4 > 1/4 + 1/4 = 1/2
    1/5 + 1/6 + 1/7 + 1/8 > 4 * 1/8 = 1/2
    So the sum of the whole series is at least 1/2 + 1/2 + 1/2 + …, which clearly diverges.

  • @user-zp1xn1rm8f
    @user-zp1xn1rm8f ปีที่แล้ว +5

    integral of 1/x = ln|X|=> which means that as x tends to infinity, the limit will also be infinity

  • @MistahPhone
    @MistahPhone ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Another good explanation for this problem is this:
    Take this equation, for example
    X = 1/9 + 1/10 + 1/11 ..... 1/16
    All of these are greater than or equal to 1/16, so let's just say x = 1/2 for demonstration purposes
    Repeat this with 1/17...1/32, 1/33...1/64, and so on to get infinity because ½ × infinity is still infinity
    Sorry if that didn't make sense

  • @starplayzreadbio373
    @starplayzreadbio373 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    That one math teacher who doesn't leave you until you get the answer:

  • @starwarsjoey228
    @starwarsjoey228 2 ปีที่แล้ว +356

    me who thought the answer was 2

    • @fos1451
      @fos1451 2 ปีที่แล้ว +131

      That's 1/1 + 1/2 + 1/4 + 1/8 ....
      X below is divided by 2

    • @hrperformance
      @hrperformance 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fos1451 sweet. Thanks 👍🏽

    • @georgiaoni6101
      @georgiaoni6101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@fos1451 does it not work with 1/1+1/2+1/3?
      i kept going further and further on the calc and it did seem to just get closer to 2

    • @fos1451
      @fos1451 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@georgiaoni6101
      The answer would be bigger than 2, are you sure you put it correctly? It shouldn't be "closer" to 2, it should be bigger than 2
      I just tried it and you already got the 2.08 on 1/4 and 3.01 on 1/11

    • @georgiaoni6101
      @georgiaoni6101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@fos1451 ah no i did it wrong i was doing 1/2 1/4 1/8 oops

  • @HamboboCute
    @HamboboCute 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    1+0.5+0.3(point three repeating)+0.25>2,so at least 2

  • @ntlake
    @ntlake ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yes, and if you rotate that graph around the x-axis the volume will be π.
    π ∫∞₁(1 / x²)dx = π(−(1/∞)+ ‌1⁄1‌) = π(0 + 1) = π

  • @gabedarrett1301
    @gabedarrett1301 2 ปีที่แล้ว +209

    This is how the integral test should be taught in school. This is so intuitive!

    • @-_-_-_-_
      @-_-_-_-_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      It is taught like this tho

    • @halfbl00d55
      @halfbl00d55 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@-_-_-_-_ it i taught, but some dont listen. Or some cases the trachers just explain ot like shit
      Most likely the former

    • @gabedarrett1301
      @gabedarrett1301 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@-_-_-_-_ Maybe your teacher did it that way, but you can't assume everyone else had a teacher like that

    • @ha-kx9we
      @ha-kx9we 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@gabedarrett1301 that is calculus, it was taught in last year of high school to me, its litterally how it is defined.

    • @gabedarrett1301
      @gabedarrett1301 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ha-kx9we Well good for you, but again, you cannot assume my professor taught it intuitively like this

  • @TurkishKS
    @TurkishKS 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    If you change the series by rounding each fraction down to the nearest 1/x fraction, where x is a power of 2, you'll see that this series is the same as repeatedly adding 1/2 (per the grouping in brackets I've made below). Since this clearly smaller series, can be shown to be equivalent to repeatedly adding 1/2, and thus equal to infinity, the original larger series must be infinity as well.
    1 + 1/2 + (1/4 + 1/4) + (1/8 + 1/8 + 1/8 +1/8) + (1/16 + 1/16 + 1/16 + 1/16 + 1/16 + 1/16 + 1/16 + 1/16) + ...

    • @sigmaoctantis5083
      @sigmaoctantis5083 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's the classical argument due to Nicolas Oresme - clearly the more elementary proof than using an improper integral.

    • @babyboy5553
      @babyboy5553 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I might be confused, but overall you cannot rearange terms in non-absolutely convergent series, the result will change.

    • @TurkishKS
      @TurkishKS 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@babyboy5553 I rearranged nothing. I simply rounded every term down to the nearest power of two reciprocal, meaning my series is smaller. The brackets are solely to show that those powers of two can be grouped up and thought of as repeatedly adding 1/2, to make it easier to see that my smaller series is equal to infinity. They are not required for that statement about my series to be true, nor are they meant to be a mathematical part of my smaller series. The grouping is explanatory only.

    • @sigmaoctantis5083
      @sigmaoctantis5083 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@babyboy55531) No rearrangement here, just an application of the _direct comparison test:_ the series written down by @TurkishKS is divergent and its terms are always less or equal than the corresponding term in the harmonic series, which hence must divergent all the more.
      2) Even a rearrangement would have done no harm: series with nonnegative terms can be rearranged at will without affecting their convergence behaviour, because they converge if and only if they converge absolutely. (That theorem of Riemann you are thinking of deals with convergent, but not absolutely convergent series; those must have infinitely many positive and negative terms.)

  • @incizor1273
    @incizor1273 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I had a teacher who explained this to me something like: ”1 > 1/2, and 1/2 is >= than 1/2 (I mean it’s equal to but that’s not the point) and then (1/3 + 1/4) > 1/2 and after that (1/5 + 1/6 + 1/7 + 1/8) > 1/2 and you can go on and on like this and add more and more numbers that are greater than one half.” Then I don’t remember the formula but he wrote it with summary notation that you get ”n halves” I think and so the series is indeed infinite if you keep adding numbers that sum to one half (or greater).

    • @nieczerwony
      @nieczerwony ปีที่แล้ว

      Well in set of real numbers you can always find one which is smaller then the previous, so nothing magical here.

    • @jbkim515
      @jbkim515 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's how I learned. I guess it's the best explanation for showing the sum is infinite 'before learning the calculus'.

  • @Laittth
    @Laittth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    crazy how the format of this video made the loop so seamless!!

    • @fansana8641
      @fansana8641 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He is idiot

  • @ahmadbels
    @ahmadbels หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I like how the question is asked infinitely

  • @surendrapalsingh8577
    @surendrapalsingh8577 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It is a simple harmonic progression

  • @commy1231
    @commy1231 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    No calculus needed. Group up the terms like this: the first term, then the second, then the next 2, then the next 4, then the next 8. The first is greater than 1/2. The second is greater than 1/2. The next 2 are each greater than 1/4, so their sum is greater than 1/2. The next 4 are each greater than 1/8, so their sum is greater than 1/2. The next 8 are each greater than 1/16, so their sum is greater than 1/2, and so on... You get the sum of infinitely many times 1/2 which is infinity

  • @paul_w
    @paul_w 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Its the series/integral equivalence theorem.
    See: Integral test for convergence on Wikipedia.

    • @AhmaD_1-9
      @AhmaD_1-9 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      you are gay?

  • @rubenvela44
    @rubenvela44 2 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    Now this is - 1⁄12

    • @SayAhh
      @SayAhh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I thought it was -12

    • @rawenmakboul7679
      @rawenmakboul7679 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      That has been proved wrong, it was never true, it doesn't even make sense

    • @marcosenni3110
      @marcosenni3110 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Clickbait and that was 1/n^2

    • @ravenking2458
      @ravenking2458 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rawenmakboul7679 Where?

    • @rawenmakboul7679
      @rawenmakboul7679 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ravenking2458 here is the link

  • @AlejandroMGG
    @AlejandroMGG ปีที่แล้ว +4

    There is a much easier way to see why it is infinity. We can substitute each term of the sum with 1 over the next power of 2. For example, 1/3 we change it by 1/(2^2)=1/4. Therefore, we go from 1+1/2+1/3+1/4+1/5... to 1+1/2+1/4+1/4+1/8+... affirming that the original series is greater than the second one, as 1/3>1/4, 1/5>1/8... and so on. From the second series we can group terms this way: 1+1/2+2*1/4+4*1/8+8*1/16+... = 1+1/2+1/2+1/2+1/2+... = 1+2*1/2+2*1/2+...=1+1+1+... which means that, given the series is infinite, we are adding up infinite ones. Therefore, as our original series is greater than the second one, and the second one is infinite, the original is also infinite.

  • @spongebobseyelashes8548
    @spongebobseyelashes8548 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You can prove it’s infinity due to the p series tests for sums, here it is 1/n^p where p is 1. In order for the sum to converge (not be an infinity) p must be greater than 1. Here it will diverge to infinity, which has already been proven to great lengths about this one (the harmonic series) but it’s still fun to prove yourself

  • @jemuzuthestrangebear
    @jemuzuthestrangebear 2 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    when I first heard about this they proved it by using a series that goes 1/2 + 1/4 + 1/4 + 1/8 + 1/8 + 1/8 + 1/8 + 1/16 ... and if you compare it to the original series
    1/2 + 1/4 + 1/4 + 1/8 + 1/8 + 1/8 + 1/8 + 1/16 ...
    1/2 + 1/3 + 1/4 + 1/5 + 1/6 + 1/7 + 1/8 + 1/9 ...
    you can see the original series is clearly larger
    and you can also see the smaller series is basically just repeatedly adding 1/2 and if you add the same number over and over again it will eventually escape to infinity
    and since the original series is larger it will also escape to infinity

    • @diribigal
      @diribigal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Honestly, that method is so much more straightforward than "develop enough calculus to know that the integral of 1/x grows without bound, and then compare areas"

    • @themathsgeek8528
      @themathsgeek8528 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes, that was by Nicolas ohrem, French mathematician.. (idk if I got the spelling right)

    • @lyrimetacurl0
      @lyrimetacurl0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was surprised that 1/2^n sum is the same answer as 1/triangle numbers sum, even though the triangle numbers one is not exponential 🤔

    • @themathsgeek8528
      @themathsgeek8528 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@lyrimetacurl0 hmm true, that is quite interesting... yes the triangle number problem can be done by partial fraction decomposition

    • @Untoldanimations
      @Untoldanimations 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@diribigal This method is cool but not generalisable. The calc method is not as cool but very easy and very generalisable.

  • @coffeebean4939
    @coffeebean4939 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2252

    them: “so NOW what if i ask you this question”
    me: i still don’t get it
    edit: guys ur smart but i barely passed seventh grade math so the chances of me ever understanding this are extremely low 😂

    • @Matt-wh6wj
      @Matt-wh6wj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +217

      The point is that any series of numbers repeated infinite times, if not inversely exponential and not equal to zero, no matter how small it seems to be, is equal to infinity

    • @kirito6170
      @kirito6170 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@Matt-wh6wj i can't get it
      for me that looks like a 1,5 if u use rectangle

    • @hellfireofdooom8876
      @hellfireofdooom8876 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Matt-wh6wj have you heard of p-series lol

    • @RanDom_GuY_yt
      @RanDom_GuY_yt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Matt-wh6wj bro if you have something like an infinite gp with r

    • @Matt-wh6wj
      @Matt-wh6wj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hellfireofdooom8876 the p series is a divergent series

  • @hasanakhtar8629
    @hasanakhtar8629 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    can also be expressed as integral 1+x+x^2+...+x^n from 0 to 1 and n tending to infinity. solve the limit and we get infinity :)

  • @hagenfarrell
    @hagenfarrell 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It’s interesting because you’d think when you take the limit you get 1/infinity (which is 0) but the infinite series of 1/x is divergent; it never converges to a finite value. It’s also known as a harmonic series.
    Conversely though the alternating harmonic series is convergent; it converges to a finite value.

  • @karlkastor
    @karlkastor ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think the proof by grouping values until they are larger than 1/2 is easier to understand.

  • @galaxyyy3427
    @galaxyyy3427 2 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    do the wallis product sometime around :)

    • @jordan7828
      @jordan7828 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My nigga💀

    • @galaxyyy3427
      @galaxyyy3427 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jordan7828 Hello Chris.

  • @icunde6086
    @icunde6086 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Harmonic Progression

  • @bananafreyr3968
    @bananafreyr3968 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If you replace every number by the 1/2^n inferior, you get 1+1/2+1/4+1/4+1/8+1/8+1/8+1/8+1/16+1/16 ......... which is equal to 1/2+1/2+1/2+1/2...... and so on till infinity.
    Sunce the first sum is greater than the second one, the first one must approach infinity aswell 😊

  • @augustdruzgal475
    @augustdruzgal475 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    My favorite proof of this is the comparison of the limit of 1/x as x approaches infinity being greater than 1 + 1/2 + 1/2 + 1/4 + 1/4 + 1/4 + 1/4 + 1/8 × 8 + 1/16 × 16 + ..., and since each of the chunks adds up to one and you can separate them into infinitely smaller portions, 1/x must approach infinity as well. It's just so easy to grasp visually, I love it.

  • @courageouscuber9278
    @courageouscuber9278 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    WTH! That loop is flawless!

  • @jayxone
    @jayxone 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Another way, around down everything so it’s equal to any number of 1/2^n, you will see that it would be 1 added till infinity, since this is infinite and the sum is rounded down, the actual equation would be bigger than infinity or just infinity

  • @Eitri-TheSus
    @Eitri-TheSus 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i feel like theres an easier to understand way to prove this, like the fact that the sum is larger than 1/1 + 1/2 + 1/4 + 1/4 + 1/8 + 1/8 + 1/8 + 1/8... which can be simplified to 1 + 1/2 + 1/2 + 1/2 + 1/2... which is infinity

  • @charvikdixit8328
    @charvikdixit8328 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Thank you so much! Bri and keep making videos like this. Almost nobody makes concepts such easier.......... 👍❤

    • @AhmaD_1-9
      @AhmaD_1-9 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      you are gay?

  • @ericsanders7226
    @ericsanders7226 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    This is what my calculus teacher told us:
    1/1 + 1/2 + 1/4 + 1/4 + 1/8 + 1/8 + 1/8 + 1/8... = 1 + 1/2 + 1/2 + 1/2 ...
    If we reduce everything so that the denominator is a power of two (this is less than this series), it will continuously add 1/2, and because 1/2 * infinity = infinity. Because the power of two series is divergent, the harmonic series must be too.

    • @MasterHigure
      @MasterHigure 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is the solution that people who haven't finished high school still have the tools to understand.

    • @ayaipeeoiiu8151
      @ayaipeeoiiu8151 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MasterHigure or because it’s an other way to see the problem.

    • @AalapShah12297
      @AalapShah12297 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Was going to comment this. Much more simpler than involving calculus

    • @Prasen1729
      @Prasen1729 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MasterHigure lol are you high on yourself ? :-) ridiculing his method saying it's for high school kids

    • @ericsanders7226
      @ericsanders7226 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@AalapShah12297 Yeah, that is what I was thinking. And I myself am actually a Cal B student right now and we learned improper integrals and how the harmonic series is divergent within a month of each other. So the only people who would know that the integration of 1/x from 1 to infinity is divergent and not know about the harmonic series being divergent would be a very small group of people.

  • @jasonpark5247
    @jasonpark5247 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Another explanation I like: take a series, 1 + 1/2 + 1/4 + 1/4 + 1/8 + 1/8 + 1/8 + 1/8…
    Comparing to 1 + 1/2 + 1/3, it has to be smaller or the same.
    Now add 1/4s, 1/8s, 1/16s and so on.
    You have 1 + 1/2 + 1/2… which goes to infinity.
    Since 1 + 1/2 + 1/3… is larger than or equal to that, it also goes to infinity.

  • @avivlab
    @avivlab 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There is proof that doesn't require integrals, which makes it more elegant IMO.
    You can lower the sum by replacing some of the terms with smaller terms to write it as:
    1 + 1/2 + 1/4 + 1/4 + 1/8 + 1/8 + 1/8 + 1/8 + ...
    which doesn't seem so clever at first because I just substituted each denominator with the next power of 2.
    However, when you go to calculate this new sum, which is smaller than the original sum, you get:
    1 + 1/2 + 2/4 + 4/8 + ... = 1 + 1/2 + 1/2 + 1/2 + ...
    and it much more obviously diverges, and means the original sum diverges as well.
    As a bonus, you can see the divergence of the new sum is logarithmic. If you think about it, each time we need twice as many terms to increase the total sum by 1/2, which is a logarithmic behavior.

  • @orangesite7625
    @orangesite7625 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Being a calculus student it really helped me understand there is a lot can be done with calculus

  • @kingju1ius
    @kingju1ius 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Im in grade 10, and i can barley do math 7 grades below my level, but this was cool.

    • @l.7428
      @l.7428 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      From which country you are ?

    • @sohamadak6811
      @sohamadak6811 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Not Indian Ig

  • @SISKCERTWaJaVlogs
    @SISKCERTWaJaVlogs ปีที่แล้ว +2

    the series diverges via the integral tests
    as the pseries rule states, if n > 1, the series converges and if its 1 or less then it diverges
    1/n limit approaches zero but proven by the integral test it diverges

  • @amirraza6055
    @amirraza6055 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just thought it was Geometric Progression and I felt trippy for a minute!

  • @adios8919
    @adios8919 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    YOU JUST EXPLAINED THIS BETTER THAN ANYTHING I'VE EVER FOUND. OH MY GOD THANK YOU SOOOOO MUUCHHHH 🤩🤩🤩🤩

  • @niksforeve2805
    @niksforeve2805 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    There is an explanation without using calculus (Cauchy's integral convergence test for sum of series):
    Let's introduce new series with elements each not greater than the respective initial one, precisely:
    {1; 1/2; 1/4; 1/4; 1/8; 1/8; 1/8; 1;8 ...}
    Now let's look at the sum of this series:
    1+1/2+1/4+1/4+1/8+1/8+1/8+1/8+... = 1 + 0.5 + 0.5 + 0.5 ...
    As we see we are constantly adding 0.5 to 1, as the sequence is infinite, the process lasts infinitely long. So the sum goes to infinity and beyond, hence this series diverges. As the initial series has elements each not less than this one, then it diverges too, so it's sum goes up to infinity too.

    • @nayjer2576
      @nayjer2576 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thats the proof we used in our real analysis class

  • @ireallylikepizzasok
    @ireallylikepizzasok 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Also, if you round down 1/3 to 1/4, as well as rounding down 1/5, 1/6, and 1/7 to 1/8, and so on, then if you add those up it's 1 + 1/2 + 1/2 + 1/2... which is infinite

  • @justsomeboyprobablydressed9579
    @justsomeboyprobablydressed9579 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Every student does see this (in theory). It's in every calculus book and every calculus course ever created.

  • @williamgomez6226
    @williamgomez6226 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I end up confused, just like in class

  • @bruhyou197
    @bruhyou197 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This is amazing.

  • @AkshatIITK
    @AkshatIITK ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Using Calculas.
    Using expansion of ln(1-x) = -(1/1 + x^2/2 + x^3/3 + x^4/4 ....... )
    Putting x=1
    Ln(0) = -(1/1 + 1/2 + 1/3 +..........)
    Therefore,
    -Ln(0) = 1/1 + 1/2 + 1/3 +.....
    Inf = 1/1 + 1/2 + 1/3 +.....

  • @enriquegrageda
    @enriquegrageda 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    His loop is perfect 🫡💪

  • @abhrankan1461
    @abhrankan1461 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    An extract taken from the introduction of one of Euler's most celebrated papers, "De summis serierum reciprocarum" [On the sums of series of reciprocals]: I have recently found, quite unexpectedly, an elegant expression for the entire sum of this series 1 + 1/4 + 1/9 + 1/16 + etc., which depends on the quadrature of the circle, so that if the true sum of this series is obtained, from it at once the quadrature of the circle follows. Namely, I have found that the sum of this series is a sixth part of the square of the perimeter of the circle whose diameter is 1; or by putting the sum of this series equal to s, it has the ratio sqrt(6) multiplied by s to 1 of the perimeter to the diameter. I will soon show that the sum of this series to be approximately 1.644934066842264364; and from multiplying this number by six, and then taking the square root, the number 3.141592653589793238 is indeed produced, which expresses the perimeter of a circle whose diameter is 1. Following again the same steps by which I had arrived at this sum, I have discovered that the sum of the series 1 + 1/16 + 1/81 + 1/256 + 1/625 + etc. also depends on the quadrature of the circle. Namely, the sum of this multiplied by 90 gives the biquadrate (fourth power) of the circumference of the perimeter of a circle whose diameter is 1. And by similar reasoning I have likewise been able to determine the sums of the subsequent series in which the exponents are even numbers.

  • @lifestreamy
    @lifestreamy ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Help stepmathbrother, I'm stuck in a loop

  • @CanadaGovernment785
    @CanadaGovernment785 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very good video I can see you put the work in!

  • @wait...
    @wait... 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    So basically integration turns pixels into a smooth graphs

  • @parijatgoyaliitkgp7572
    @parijatgoyaliitkgp7572 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Another way that is coming to my mind: if we write it as
    ∫(1 + x + x^2 + x^3...)dx from x=0 to x=1 , we get the same series, ie 1+1/2+1/3...
    solving, =∫ (1)/(1-x) from x=0 to x=1 (using infinite GP formula, and here common difference

  • @hrperformance
    @hrperformance 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The reasoning seems obvious when it's told you well like this, but I struggled a lot with this one haha.
    QUESTION: why was the variable t introduced in the final expression? Shouldn't this just be x, with x tending to infinity?

    • @justcommenting5117
      @justcommenting5117 ปีที่แล้ว

      Since the function 1/x already uses x, t was used instead to occupy the limit

  • @tekashiii
    @tekashiii ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The crazy part is if you square them you will get a real finite answer

  • @Nick-the-fox
    @Nick-the-fox 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    also u can do without integrals
    1/1+1/2+1/3+1/4+1/5+1/6+1/7+1/8...>
    v v v v v v v v
    1/2+1/4+1/4+1/8+1/8+1/8+1/8+1/16...=
    1/2+1/2+1/2+1/2+1/2+1/2+1/2+1/2+...=inf/2=inf

  • @karlmudsam2834
    @karlmudsam2834 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This was literally like “do the integral test lmao”

  • @BlueSheep777
    @BlueSheep777 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    From coder's perspective: for each 10^n the sum will be by around 2,3 higher
    10: 2,93
    100: 5,19 | ~+2,3
    1k: 7,49 | ~+2,3
    10k: 9,79
    100k: 12,09
    1M: 14,39
    Each of them is ~ +2,3 more than last 10th's power sequence.
    Script:
    var number=0;
    for(var i=0;i

    • @KrishnaPahuja8
      @KrishnaPahuja8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the code dude can u also do python

    • @BlueSheep777
      @BlueSheep777 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KrishnaPahuja8 \t means Tab
      number=0
      i=0
      while(i

  • @juliusczarnecki3992
    @juliusczarnecki3992 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What's funny though, is that if you revolve that area around the x axis and take the volume, you get a finite area (that is a multiple of pi if i remember correctly). Just another reason infinity isn't a number

  • @bill_exists
    @bill_exists 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    the loop was so clean he be asking the same question infinite times.. 💀

  • @aayushroka5243
    @aayushroka5243 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    People: Perfect loop doesn't exist
    This short video:

  • @kingbeauregard
    @kingbeauregard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It clearly sums to -12.

    • @ravenking2458
      @ravenking2458 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No dude, it's 1+2+3... = -1/12(Atleast that's what Ramanujan stated)

    • @AdityaGupta-qk5ee
      @AdityaGupta-qk5ee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ravenking2458 ramanujan stated that for 1 + 2 + 3 ……..
      this is 1/1 +1/2 +1/3 ………..

    • @ravenking2458
      @ravenking2458 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AdityaGupta-qk5ee yep, sorry i forgot to mention that. I meant that he probably did reciprocal of the whole series of 1+1/2+1/3....

    • @RaRa-eu9mw
      @RaRa-eu9mw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The reciprocal of a series isn't the series formed from the reciprocals of the terms.
      1+2+3+4...=-1/12 (if you want to give it any value)
      but
      1+1/2+1/3+1/4...=infinity (if you want to give it any value)

    • @ravenking2458
      @ravenking2458 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RaRa-eu9mw Dude i said the same thing, he probably did the whole reciprocal of the series which was obviously wrong

  • @babyboy5553
    @babyboy5553 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sum(1/n) is a Dirichlet series with exponent=1, therefore is divergent which means its sum its +inf

  • @sueleandrade1273
    @sueleandrade1273 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Math is really amazing ❤

  • @nevokrien95
    @nevokrien95 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    We could give this any value dependung in how we analyticly continue it

  • @0t019
    @0t019 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    1/1 + 1/2 + 1/3 •••• > A: 1/1 + 1/2 + 1/4 +1/4 + 1/8+ •••
    A= 1/1 + {1/2+ 1/4*2} + {1/8*4+1/16*8} + •••••
    A= 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + •••••
    =infinity
    -From Korean student

    • @SuperNova88
      @SuperNova88 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Omg ty
      Btw I don't understand the relation between area under the curve and rectangle with the function. Is it valid for every sum?

  • @elianderson8579
    @elianderson8579 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just covered this in my calc two class today and now this is on my recommended

  • @rajdeepnaha1242
    @rajdeepnaha1242 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another way to do it will be to put -1 in the expantion of ln(1+x)

  • @maicee7603
    @maicee7603 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    how is the area of the rectangles represent the sum?
    is it because its the same as sum of 1/x ×1 from x to inf?

    • @emilyscloset2648
      @emilyscloset2648 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The first rectangle is defined with an area of 1, the second is half its height so 1/2, the third a third of the first rectangle's height so 1/3 etc

    • @methatis3013
      @methatis3013 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes

    • @hydrochloricacid2146
      @hydrochloricacid2146 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Look at it this way: the area of each rectangle is simply the rectangle height (1/n) times the base. Because we're using indices going 1,2,3,4 etc we're actually looking at a base of width 1. Adding up all those fraction is this equivalent to adding up those areas.

  • @miamitten1123
    @miamitten1123 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The loop is infinite ♾

    • @AhmaD_1-9
      @AhmaD_1-9 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      you are gay?

  • @BlankAreAthletes
    @BlankAreAthletes ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I almost made the mistake of thinking it converges but Calc 2 was early in the summer so I kind of remember this was a harmonic series.

    • @steelviper7724
      @steelviper7724 ปีที่แล้ว

      (whoops, i replied to your comment originally thinking this was a different video, my bad!)

    • @aamirtalpur9740
      @aamirtalpur9740 ปีที่แล้ว

      what does harmonic mean btw

    • @BlankAreAthletes
      @BlankAreAthletes ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aamirtalpur9740 so I don’t know exactly why it’s called a harmonic series, I do know however it’s follows a pattern. So the harmonic series is what is shown in the video 1/1 + 1/2 + 1/3 ….. on until you reach + 1/infinity. It’s one of the first things taught when covering series because obviously the limit of 1/x as x approaches inf is 0 but the series is divergent even though the limit converges. The way I was taught is that while the limit converges, it doesn’t converge fast enough, meanwhile 1/x^2 does because it converges very fast relative to the normal harmonic series. After all that is covered it is introduced to you that the harmonic series does actually converge if it is an alternating harmonic series.
      All that’s is why series is reportedly one of the toughest things to understand in calc 2

  • @Hacker559CoD
    @Hacker559CoD ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This definitely is one of the answers of all time

  • @zackcarl7861
    @zackcarl7861 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Its infinite , that's like , that elephants father can fit in the shade, and that, elephant is big how big it's the biggest , but then what about his father he is bigger than that biggest elephant , so do we have have enough shade space to fit the elephant 🙂😆

  • @vinayakvashishtha1045
    @vinayakvashishtha1045 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    To be very precise, it is totally wrong comparison. Actually area under the curves give us the total sum area of continuous function that is 1/x here but we don't have x= 1/3.3 or x=1/4.2 etc. in the domain here in the question. Because our domain is restricted at integers in the denominator. So its not continuous.

    • @LearnoPhile-xy8om
      @LearnoPhile-xy8om 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      You totally misunderstood the explanation.
      1/1 + 1/2 +1/3 .... Is just area of rectangles of breadth 1 and length 1,1/2,1/3,1/4......

    • @undecorateur
      @undecorateur หลายเดือนก่อน

      We are comparing the sum of areas of discrete rectangles and the integral of the continuous function 1/x.
      Our goal is to proof that the sum of 1/n (harmonic sum) is divergent.
      The thing is the harmonic sum is totally the sul of the areas of the rectangles.
      How to construct these rectangles :
      The begin of a rectangle is an integer and the end is next one. So the width is one.
      We made them so as to the height of them is f(n) = 1/n
      Then, the area of one rectangle is width * height = 1 * 1/n = 1/n
      Then the sum is the harmonic sum
      which is by definotion the sum of 1/n
      The second area, the blue one , is the integral of 1/x
      which is ln(x) , given by the fundamental theorem of calculus. This function diverges to infinoty so the blue area diverges to infinity.
      The area of the rectangles is GREATER than the area under the curve. so we conclude that the area of the rectangles is also infinity.
      *To conclude, we use a continous function to calculate a discrete sum because we know how to deal with functions,integrals...*

  • @johnshillingsburg2682
    @johnshillingsburg2682 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is the harmonic series. Currently in AP calculus BC and learning sequences and series. This is the number 1 fact to know.

  • @gigantopithecus8254
    @gigantopithecus8254 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    you could prove ln(x)-h(x)=v as x approaces infinity which makes it trivial

  • @1SLMusic
    @1SLMusic ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Here’s best proof for this which doesn’t involve calculus. Begin with the sum:
    1 + 1/2 + 1/3 + 1/4 + 1/5 + 1/6 + 1/7 + 1/8 + …
    We can compare it to a different sum:
    1 + 1/2 + 1/3 + 1/4 + 1/5 + 1/6 + 1/7 + 1/8 + …
    >
    1 + 1/2 + 1/4 + 1/4 + 1/8 + 1/8 + 1/8 + 1/8 + ….
    Because of how each term increases to the next, we know the second infinite sum is less than the first infinite sum if both have integer solutions. This means that if we can prove that the second sum evaluates to infinity, then we also prove that the first sum also evaluates to infinity.
    We can simplify the second sum as follows:
    Sum = 1 + 1/2 + 1/4 + 1/4 + 1/8 + 1/8 + 1/8 + 1/8 + ….
    Sum = 1 + 1/2 + (1/4 + 1/4) + (1/8 + 1/8 + 1/8 + 1/8) + ….
    Sum = 1 + 1/2 + 1/2 + 1/2 + …
    Thus, the second sum is an infinite sum of 1/2. which is infinity. Because the second sum is equal to infinity, the first sum 1 + 1/2 + 1/3 + 1/4 + 1/5 + 1/6 + 1/7 + 1/8 + … = infinity.

    • @tomekk.1889
      @tomekk.1889 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Calculus is way faster

  • @zjz1
    @zjz1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You don't need calculus.
    1/3+1/4 > 1/4 + 1/4 = 1/2
    1/5+1/6+1/7+1/8 > 1/8+1/8+1/8+1/8 = 1/2
    and so on
    The sum > 1+1/2+1/2+1/2...
    = Infinity

  • @Lost-soul1383
    @Lost-soul1383 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    need more pages like yours on social medias

  • @purplegoldcat7
    @purplegoldcat7 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Smoothest transition does exist now

  • @jaydenarteaga7223
    @jaydenarteaga7223 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Ahh yes, the harmonic series :)

  • @YeahEsCereal
    @YeahEsCereal ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The answer to “1/2+1/3+1/4….” Is 1, but what about “1/1+1/2+1/3….”? That’s 2 (Zeno’s Dichotomy Paradox)

    • @flaredcanvas884
      @flaredcanvas884 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Oh really? I thought 1/2+1/3+1/4= 6/12+4/12+3/12= 13/12 which a guess is bigger than 1

    • @itismethatguy
      @itismethatguy ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wut the hell do you mean

    • @YeahEsCereal
      @YeahEsCereal ปีที่แล้ว

      @@itismethatguy since we’re working with infinity, smaller and smaller numbers get closer to one

    • @nayjer2576
      @nayjer2576 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@YeahEsCereal thats just wrong lol

    • @undecorateur
      @undecorateur หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      1/1 + 1/2 + 1/3 + 1/4 + 1/5 + ... is equal to infinity not 1. In the denominator, we have all the natural numbers, and this serie is called "Harmonic serie". This one diverges as the video proved.
      The serie which is actually equal to 1 is the geometric serie
      1 + 1/2 + 1/4 + 1/8 + 1/16 ... = 1
      Here we only have the powers of 2 in the denominators
      This serie converges as |1/2| < 1
      The terms for the two series are smaller and smaller (converge to 0) but the terms for the geometric serie converge faster than the harmonic one.

  • @dercivity3870
    @dercivity3870 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    now subtract the area from the rectangles and you get 0.577. Math is awesome

  • @rajnisharma1223
    @rajnisharma1223 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    its called HP HARMONIC PROGRESSION reciprocals ap