Ah, thanks for posting this! Excellent to see other versions found and in action, these bits of software history deserve preservation. And all that paperwork is just great 👍
I got a copy of this back in the day. It was pretty cool to see a car company tapping into the home computer enthusiast segment to try to sell their new cars.
Great stuff! Ah, you have to love these 80s programs that focused on getting utility out of personal computers!! This is definitely one of the cooler ones.
Robin, It's ok to say "Zed" - the Camaro was built in Canada (making it a Canadian muscle car) for over 30 years, along with its cousin the Trans Am. Mine was built in St Therese, Quebec. So Zed is appropriate. GM eventually closed the St Therese plant and moved production to Michigan, so the newest ones can be "Zees". :)
This was a great trip down memory lane both in terms of the software and the late 80’s! Graduated HS in 87. The IROC-Z was definitely the car the cool kids had.
I remember the version LGR showed. I once had a CD ROM from a car manufacturer about their current newest car. That was somewhere in the ninetees. I gifted it away many years ago.
@@bobweiram6321 really? is that possible?how I have been dealing with computers all my life, since I was 7 years old in 1982. (first spectrim 48k, then atari 600xl, then commodore 64, with drive 1541, then amiga 500+, some Taiwanese 486 clone, all the way to pentium 1,2,3,4 and now i7), and in the meantime I also graduated from the Faculty of Mathematics, Department of Informatics and Computer Science, and I work as an engineer in a software company since 1998. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR OPENING MY EYES!
@@mikipank It's not very impressive considering how slow it is compared to Apple's Disk II. You'd expect it to be a lot faster. The Lisa and the Mac II also had 6502s in their controllers.
The C64 video chip steals 43 cycles every eight scan lines, which isn't a large fraction of CPU time, but accommodating it requires that the drive send data much slower than it otherwise would.
Fascinating to see how companies were trying to embrace computers - and the inevitable pushback from the dealers. I did enjoy the Depreciation Derby game, it reminded me of Deflex by Llamasoft (and the Iridis Alpha pause mode game called Made In France II). And you taught me something new about Super Snapshot after all these years of using it. Did not know about using ! to read a SEQ file. That is a neat feature.
"So, bye-bye, Miss American Pie. Drove my Chevy to the levee, but the levee was dry. And them good ol' boys were drinkin' whiskey and rye. Singin', This'll be the day that I die, This'll be the day that I die." - Yeah, I just watched the new Black Widow movie on Disney+. And know anything even remotely mentioned in the song "American Pie" triggers my inner DJ to instantly slam it onto the turntable.
haha your chevy Sprint is a suzuki swift underneath! we had the 3 speed auto and it was awesome went quick with the kickdown also had aircon and electric windows
Ex-girlfriend had one of those Chevy Springs (or as we would call them in Europe - Suzuki Swift), 1990. with a/t transmission. It was actually very reliable and engine was reasonably powerful for city driving that is. Couple of years ago transmission malfunctioned and entire car ended up in scrapyard.
Still got my 87 1/2 ton short box step side, was 305 auto. Now she’s got a stroked 454 (489), 4spd T-10 and a Ford 9” with 4.56’s. Wonder if that combo is in Chevy Tech?!
That was my first vehicle, no options and no power anything but there was nothing to break on it. I wish they would bring back the foot vents, i loved that in my truck. Open the foot vent and slide open the rear window and i could smoke without getting rained or snowed on, with that massive ash tray.
The Apple version was awful! It's amazing how the C64 beat Apple on nearly every metric at fraction of the price. The cheap materials made the C64 a deal killer. Apple's build quality and aesthetics made it seem like you got your money's worth. Jobs was a genius.
Cool find. In the early 90's I had a Dodge Neon demo floppy when that car was first introduced. It looked fairly good in VGA and even had a few limited animations on it. While the Chevette was bit of a joke in the 80's IMO the REAL joke was the mid to late 80's Chevy Nova! That car was a simply a rebadged Toyota Corolla with the quality removed from it. My family owned a 86 hatchback Nova for a short time after buying it from a relative for $600 in 93. It little 4cyl engine in it put out 80hp on a good day, it blew a head gasket at less than 60k miles (it had just been replaced when we bought it) and blew a 2nd head gasket shortly after turning over 100k miles about 2 years later. The car was barely 10 years old when it was scrapped! In addition to the major engine issues it was rusting like CRAZY and falling apart all over. I've owned a couple of 2000 and later Chevy's and they've been so much better than POS Nova was!
Definitely an interesting watch. I got a 1985 Chevy Cavalier, for Christmas of 1986. I was 16 years old and didn't know about "options". It was cream coloured, or beige.. something pretty ugly. I didn't care about those things. As long as it reliably got me from Point A to Point B, and any Points in--between that I wanted to go. With an A/C of course.
You'd be surprised at how low the gear ratio is on the top gear of a 3-speed -- you really only ever shift into 3rd around 70-85 km/h, and the RPMs drop way down. So when you're doing 105 or so, the RPMs are fairly normal. The really nice thing about a 3-speed is that you rarely have to shift when driving in the city. First gear gets you from a stop to like 30 km/h easily, 2nd takes you from there up to around 70km/h. So if you have to shift at all, it's just one shift. I miss 3-speed transmissions! My uncle had a manual 3-speed on some muscle car, I can't remember what it was -- a Trans Am, or a Mustang, or a Vette or something. In 3rd gear, that thing would just FLY. According to my dad, he got rid of it because he got too many speeding tickets. The car just wanted to go! And as he was driving back and forth between Toronto and Ottawa, the 401 just invites you to put the pedal down.
Your dad’s car called here as Suzuki Swift, and came from Japan, but in Europe it produced in Hungary, Esztergom :) its very reliable car, but never crash with it… maybe cheapest new car was in Europe in 90’s.
@@gaborszabo6406 it was a chevy, those cars you are talking about are DIFFERENT cars that stole and ripped off chevy. I am a car historian at the Santa Ana museum of car History in Texas, but this not Texas in the USA it is Mexico Texas.. people get them confused just wanted to clear the air. Thanks and have a Amico Day!
The Sprint IMO was one of the worst cars you could have in that time period. The only thing you could say for it is the gas mileage was stellar. The Chevette was a step up by comparison. I went on a road trip as a passenger in a Sprint in a near-blizzard. My friend, who was driving, was a bit of a timid driver anyway, and the semis roaring by and tailgating was kind of terrifying. His was equipped with A/C, which while effective, had to be turned off when merging onto a freeway to eke out every horsepower it could give. With less than 100K miles on it, it began using a quart of oil every 50 miles or so, and eventually became a rolling storage unit in the parking lot of the building he lived in, and ultimately was towed to its death.
30:48 ... Classic! From AppleFritter forum: "For Apple computers, the delete behaviour you see is normal! Delete's function is defined in applications, and is not implemented in the firmware, so the key outputs it's ASCII character. Oddly enough, the behaviour of "delete" (and to a lesser extent, "backspace") is still strange and mostly inconsistently defined on a Mac... Not quite sure what's going on there. The apple software engineers seem to have a stubbornness about adopting anything standard from the Wintel world that extends to the point of sheer stupidity."
I've never owned a Subaru, but they are somewhat common here. I survived a lot of Canadian winters in rear-wheel drive Mercury and Lincoln cars from the '70s, and various front-wheel drive cars, but definitely appreciated my 4x4 F-150 when I got it. In my city, 4x4 trucks are regular family vehicles.
Weird that only the PC version has any images of the vehicles (such as they are). I guess space on the disk was just too limited for the Apple and Commodore.
It's not a space problem - the front side of the C64 disk has more than half of its capacity left. So there would have been some space left to include half screen model pictures. Looks more like a lack of imagination on the management side.
@@ThereIsOnly1ArcNinja Maybe they were constrained by time/release dates. Graphics on both of those 8 bit systems can be made quite small, storage-wise, now that I think about it. But you're probably right: lack of imagination.
now imagine if ebay and amazon catalogs were distributed this way what a huge mess that would be. Imagine if you were a seller, youd need to fax an image of your item, price, descryption, adresse and banking info to ebay or amazon, then they would include it on whatever category of items buyers would need to subscribe to indevidually do to not being to fit everything on one disk, it would probably be limited to so many sellers and buyers at once, and you could only sell a limited amount of items at a time!
0:30 The fact that you have the envelope is pretty impressive 11:34 My first car was a Geo Metro. Basically the same car. Mine had 3 cylinders and was a 5 speed. I think the only car I've ever been in with a worse build quality was a Yugo. 20:25 Finally. Before this was just too many bits for me. No one really ever needs more than 8. 37:30 we should play this game with real cars 42:40 when is the using SEQ files Robin deep dive?
I remember seeing the Geo Metro, and there were a couple more cars that seemed basically identical: Pontiac Firefly, and Suzuki Swift. Even the Holden Barina, according to Google!
Don't forget the Ford Festiva and the Mercury Laser, which was one very small step above a Metro in build quality. It was a Kia car with a Mazda motor and a Ford/Mercury badge. I believe the Festiva was the last car to come with a carburator as standard equipment in 1989 or 90.
Ha, weird that they thought you're supposed to put a space between a word and the punctuation mark that should go right after it, like a comma or exclamation point.
Mr. Harbron, will you please make a follow-up video that shows us and explains how they could multiformat one side of a floppy disk for 3 different formats of drives (and why you had to use side 2 for the Apple even though the instruction said side 1)?
Sorry it wasn't clear enough, but the disk I show from the Chevy Tech envelope only had the IBM PC-compatible version on it. The C64 and Apple II versions were found online; links to their sources are provided in the video description.
@@8_Bit: OHHHH! I heard you talk about those sources but I didn't remember your having said that that's how _you_ got them too. Haha, I was like, "Wow, I know that you can partition a hard drive nowadays to have differently formatted sections, but floppy drives are so specific, especially ones from back in those old days, that it would take some great wizardry to set up a special one at a factory that could write those different formats to different tracks of the same disk side!" OK, cool, this makes a TON more sense, thanks!
@@HelloKittyFanMan. That reminds me that I do have one triple-format 5.25" floppy disk. Mastertronic's Ninja has IBM PC version on one side, with C64 and Atari sharing the other side which is pretty clever. I would like to do a video about that disk sometime.
@@8_Bit: Oh, WOW, Robin, you just ended a curiosity with one comment and then blew my mind right after with a follow-up! I would LOOOOVVVVEEE to watch a video of everything you could say (and maybe, if we're lucky, even demonstrate!) about how that could work! YESSSS!
@@8_Bit we're not weird, it's the Americans that are weird with their "Zee". To quote a famous beer commercial "Z[ed]! Not Zee! Z[ed]!" And to back this up, just ask the rest of the British Commonwealth and the other languages that use the same character set lol
This disk was meant for the North American market and we don't use the word "ute" here; typically they are called "pickup trucks" or "light trucks" or just... truck.
In the future, I could imagine people buying cars by telephoning the car company, receiving a floppy disk in the post in under seven working days, running the program, selecting their options, printing out the specification of the car they want, and then visiting the car showroom instead of making a time-consuming trip to the car showroom.
My video capture device records at 60 fps, as that's what most computers I record output. I don't know why TH-cam doesn't offer a 30 fps version though.
@@8_Bit Don't worry about him. It's not your fault they got their processor from a cereal box. The video plays just fine on any half decent PC or other personal computing device. (edit: *Loved* the Homestarrunner reference in the vid, BTW)
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Ah, thanks for posting this! Excellent to see other versions found and in action, these bits of software history deserve preservation. And all that paperwork is just great 👍
@Thomas Myles why did you feel the need to answer his comment? He will never see it, it’s like trying to get a response on any of his videos.
@@charliezinger8104 He actually does reply in his videos, just not a lot. He's replied to me.
I've been wanting to see someone look at this thing since seeing that review of yours ages ago
#8-bitDanceParty! 😂
I couldn't help myself!! :)
The C64 music is actually really damn catchy. Love the baseline!
I love the 8-bit dance party / Adrian Black reference. Nicely done sir, nicely done.
But I still look as fondly at my Chevette as my C64. Ahhh. Memories.
I got a copy of this back in the day. It was pretty cool to see a car company tapping into the home computer enthusiast segment to try to sell their new cars.
Great stuff! Ah, you have to love these 80s programs that focused on getting utility out of personal computers!! This is definitely one of the cooler ones.
Robin, It's ok to say "Zed" - the Camaro was built in Canada (making it a Canadian muscle car) for over 30 years, along with its cousin the Trans Am. Mine was built in St Therese, Quebec. So Zed is appropriate. GM eventually closed the St Therese plant and moved production to Michigan, so the newest ones can be "Zees". :)
That pun was disk driving me up the wall.
But who doesn't want to go for a Disk Drive haha
the c64 versions music is realy cool...
Nice, man. Thank you for all your videos.
Thumbs up for Señor Cardgage cameo!
"Chevytech is designed for your entertainment."
Well, I was definitely entertained. :)
that Chevrolet logo does look like a 3.5" disk drive front.
This was a great trip down memory lane both in terms of the software and the late 80’s! Graduated HS in 87. The IROC-Z was definitely the car the cool kids had.
My friend had a Chevette. We called it a Che-wreck because it was 4 different colors from all the mismatched panels :-)
I remember the version LGR showed. I once had a CD ROM from a car manufacturer about their current newest car. That was somewhere in the ninetees. I gifted it away many years ago.
love the 8-bit dance party reference ;)
Chevrolet: "Hey. It's the 1980s. And guess what: COMPUTERS."
You play music and do disk operations, omg, fist multitasking on c64!
Maybe not the first for sure.
The disk drive has its own 6502.
@@bobweiram6321 really? is that possible?how I have been dealing with computers all my life, since I was 7 years old in 1982. (first spectrim 48k, then atari 600xl, then commodore 64, with drive 1541, then amiga 500+, some Taiwanese 486 clone, all the way to pentium 1,2,3,4 and now i7),
and in the meantime I also graduated from the Faculty of Mathematics, Department of Informatics and Computer Science, and I work as an engineer in a software company since 1998. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR OPENING MY EYES!
@@mikipank It's not very impressive considering how slow it is compared to Apple's Disk II. You'd expect it to be a lot faster. The Lisa and the Mac II also had 6502s in their controllers.
The C64 video chip steals 43 cycles every eight scan lines, which isn't a large fraction of CPU time, but accommodating it requires that the drive send data much slower than it otherwise would.
Nice to know that Chevrolet put the same amount of care into QC their promotional materials as they did building their cars....
Fascinating to see how companies were trying to embrace computers - and the inevitable pushback from the dealers. I did enjoy the Depreciation Derby game, it reminded me of Deflex by Llamasoft (and the Iridis Alpha pause mode game called Made In France II).
And you taught me something new about Super Snapshot after all these years of using it. Did not know about using ! to read a SEQ file. That is a neat feature.
My parents had a gray '87 Chevy Nova when I was a kid. I remember that it had really scratchy seats. We got rid of it sometime around '96.
You think they would have had a batch file to do the unarc-ing. It would have been really easy and a lot more user friendly.
It was the 80s. User friendly hadn’t been invented yet.
Apple II version: You can see that they had the II+ in mind with the ALL CAPS TEXT.
Of course they'd use that pun at least once for each machine. I wouldn't laugh at their expense like that's overkill.
"So, bye-bye, Miss American Pie. Drove my Chevy to the levee, but the levee was dry. And them good ol' boys were drinkin' whiskey and rye. Singin', This'll be the day that I die, This'll be the day that I die."
- Yeah, I just watched the new Black Widow movie on Disney+. And know anything even remotely mentioned in the song "American Pie" triggers my inner DJ to instantly slam it onto the turntable.
A real shame they didn't make any Atari versions. They missed out marketing to them. Or they figured Atari users weren't Chevy customers.
haha your chevy Sprint is a suzuki swift underneath! we had the 3 speed auto and it was awesome went quick with the kickdown also had aircon and electric windows
Ex-girlfriend had one of those Chevy Springs (or as we would call them in Europe - Suzuki Swift), 1990. with a/t transmission. It was actually very reliable and engine was reasonably powerful for city driving that is. Couple of years ago transmission malfunctioned and entire car ended up in scrapyard.
I still have a base model 1988 S-10. Reliable (if not particularly comfortable) utility!
Still got my 87 1/2 ton short box step side, was 305 auto. Now she’s got a stroked 454 (489), 4spd T-10 and a Ford 9” with 4.56’s. Wonder if that combo is in Chevy Tech?!
That was my first vehicle, no options and no power anything but there was nothing to break on it. I wish they would bring back the foot vents, i loved that in my truck. Open the foot vent and slide open the rear window and i could smoke without getting rained or snowed on, with that massive ash tray.
Haha, whoever put together the C64 version really went all out.
The Apple version was awful! It's amazing how the C64 beat Apple on nearly every metric at fraction of the price. The cheap materials made the C64 a deal killer. Apple's build quality and aesthetics made it seem like you got your money's worth. Jobs was a genius.
5:34 huh, interesting color format for the keys on that keyboard. Pretty much swapped compared to a typical keyboard.
Cool find. In the early 90's I had a Dodge Neon demo floppy when that car was first introduced. It looked fairly good in VGA and even had a few limited animations on it.
While the Chevette was bit of a joke in the 80's IMO the REAL joke was the mid to late 80's Chevy Nova! That car was a simply a rebadged Toyota Corolla with the quality removed from it. My family owned a 86 hatchback Nova for a short time after buying it from a relative for $600 in 93. It little 4cyl engine in it put out 80hp on a good day, it blew a head gasket at less than 60k miles (it had just been replaced when we bought it) and blew a 2nd head gasket shortly after turning over 100k miles about 2 years later. The car was barely 10 years old when it was scrapped! In addition to the major engine issues it was rusting like CRAZY and falling apart all over. I've owned a couple of 2000 and later Chevy's and they've been so much better than POS Nova was!
Not sure why a Jarre album would damage a floppy disc.
Your father's Sprint is actually a re-badged Suzuki Swift!
It’s honestly nice to hear an American say Zed instead of Zee, there’s no wrong way of saying it, but rare to not hear Zee pronunciation!
American? Uh oh... Maybe you should have said "North American", but even then I think the Canucks don't like that.
Most Canadians still say "zed" though it seems there's a growing number raised on American TV that say "zee". I do my best, anyway.
Definitely an interesting watch. I got a 1985 Chevy Cavalier, for Christmas of 1986. I was 16 years old and didn't know about "options". It was cream coloured, or beige.. something pretty ugly. I didn't care about those things. As long as it reliably got me from Point A to Point B, and any Points in--between that I wanted to go. With an A/C of course.
"I'm not sure where I'll put it yet, but look for it there" nice
You'd be surprised at how low the gear ratio is on the top gear of a 3-speed -- you really only ever shift into 3rd around 70-85 km/h, and the RPMs drop way down. So when you're doing 105 or so, the RPMs are fairly normal. The really nice thing about a 3-speed is that you rarely have to shift when driving in the city. First gear gets you from a stop to like 30 km/h easily, 2nd takes you from there up to around 70km/h. So if you have to shift at all, it's just one shift. I miss 3-speed transmissions! My uncle had a manual 3-speed on some muscle car, I can't remember what it was -- a Trans Am, or a Mustang, or a Vette or something. In 3rd gear, that thing would just FLY. According to my dad, he got rid of it because he got too many speeding tickets. The car just wanted to go! And as he was driving back and forth between Toronto and Ottawa, the 401 just invites you to put the pedal down.
LOL very optimistic to assume a "standard" printer :-D
Anyways, I´m imagining sitting by the pool with my SX64 and configuring a Corvette ;)
I would have printed that and sent it to Chevrolet. I wonder how would they respond (if at all)...
Hooray for Strongbad! :D
11:33 Hi 8-Bit-Dad!
Your dad’s car called here as Suzuki Swift, and came from Japan, but in Europe it produced in Hungary, Esztergom :) its very reliable car, but never crash with it… maybe cheapest new car was in Europe in 90’s.
Yugo was always cheaper then swift :)
@@jovmilos yes, but here there was Zastava in socialism, and after yugo not really…
@@gaborszabo6406 it was a chevy, those cars you are talking about are DIFFERENT cars that stole and ripped off chevy. I am a car historian at the Santa Ana museum of car History in Texas, but this not Texas in the USA it is Mexico Texas.. people get them confused just wanted to clear the air. Thanks and have a Amico Day!
@@charliezinger8104 all the best for you :)
Yeah, it's ironic that the computers with better graphics in those days hardly had any graphics in these programs.
Thumbs up if you are saying "Hi Robin!" at the beginning of the video. :-)
man that C64 version is way better
"Ringo's cousin" 😂😂😂😂
The Sprint IMO was one of the worst cars you could have in that time period. The only thing you could say for it is the gas mileage was stellar. The Chevette was a step up by comparison. I went on a road trip as a passenger in a Sprint in a near-blizzard. My friend, who was driving, was a bit of a timid driver anyway, and the semis roaring by and tailgating was kind of terrifying. His was equipped with A/C, which while effective, had to be turned off when merging onto a freeway to eke out every horsepower it could give. With less than 100K miles on it, it began using a quart of oil every 50 miles or so, and eventually became a rolling storage unit in the parking lot of the building he lived in, and ultimately was towed to its death.
I want a Chevrolet now
There's something really charming about calling it a "disk drive".
And in the 1980s, Technics had stereo amplifiers and receivers they called "Computer Drive" because it had a rudimentary microcontroller IC.
Hey Robin have you been boxing people? Those are some crazy knuckle calluses ... unless i'm just seeing stuff haha
I think I've let my beauty regimen slip during all the lockdown we've had...
@@8_Bit haha. That's ok. At least you don't yellow in the sun.
30:48 ... Classic! From AppleFritter forum: "For Apple computers, the delete behaviour you see is normal! Delete's function is defined in applications, and is not implemented in the firmware, so the key outputs it's ASCII character. Oddly enough, the behaviour of "delete" (and to a lesser extent, "backspace") is still strange and mostly inconsistently defined on a Mac... Not quite sure what's going on there. The apple software engineers seem to have a stubbornness about adopting anything standard from the Wintel world that extends to the point of sheer stupidity."
42:00 the cursor is flashing in beat with the music!
I thought everyone in Canada drives a Subaru 4WD. The snow makes it essential.
I've never owned a Subaru, but they are somewhat common here. I survived a lot of Canadian winters in rear-wheel drive Mercury and Lincoln cars from the '70s, and various front-wheel drive cars, but definitely appreciated my 4x4 F-150 when I got it. In my city, 4x4 trucks are regular family vehicles.
Oh, how one yearns for that elusive Monte Carlo Chevy, now! Robin, you need to STOP IT!
The Chevrolet nova had to be renamed in France since in French it means “no go” which isn’t exactly inaccurate.
Latin America. No va is doesn’t go in Spanish. The ‘va’ part is the same in French, but they form their negatives differently.
Chevy Tech says I can get a Chevette with a positrac rear end, 5 speed manual and a 454 big block.
I love this cool obscure stuff! Thanks Robin
AND a senior cardgage reference? I love this channel more every day.
Weird that only the PC version has any images of the vehicles (such as they are). I guess space on the disk was just too limited for the Apple and Commodore.
OR they had no koala painter for commodore or apple ii, either that or they had nobody able to programme graphics on 8-bits
It's not a space problem - the front side of the C64 disk has more than half of its capacity left. So there would have been some space left to include half screen model pictures.
Looks more like a lack of imagination on the management side.
@@ThereIsOnly1ArcNinja Maybe they were constrained by time/release dates. Graphics on both of those 8 bit systems can be made quite small, storage-wise, now that I think about it. But you're probably right: lack of imagination.
18921 USD in 1988 for that crappy software? That is in today’s dollars: 46545 USD! Holy sh@t! Why? First I thought it was an invoice related to a car!
The Nova was actually a rebadged Toyota Corolla. Probably the most reliable vehicle in GMs lineup in '87 😂
Yup, later sold as Geo Prizm. The really interesting thing in this lineup is the Spectrum is a rebadged Isuzu.
@@NozomuYume little did most people know buying a Nova they were getting a Corolla for less money than a real Corolla.
Ringo Starr's real name is Richard Starkey
@2:58 I learned to drive in a manual 'Vette 🤣
Zed. Love it.
Too bad they didn't make a MC-10 version of ChevyTech!
I like to think that in some alternate universe, they did...
Oh, I forgot. There actually was an MC-10 version:) th-cam.com/video/sDMF_anpW6c/w-d-xo.html
Here is another c64 version I found after the lgr video. Thought you might want to see it too. HTTPS://archive.org/download/chev-1
Enjoy
Nice, ChevyTech '88 for C64! Looks like they more closely matched the PC version with this one too.
now imagine if ebay and amazon catalogs were distributed this way what a huge mess that would be.
Imagine if you were a seller, youd need to fax an image of your item, price, descryption, adresse and banking info to ebay or amazon, then they would include it on whatever category of items buyers would need to subscribe to indevidually do to not being to fit everything on one disk, it would probably be limited to so many sellers and buyers at once, and you could only sell a limited amount of items at a time!
Caprice Woodie Wagon
Sienor cartgage mortgage, no problado
RIP Phil Katz. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Katz
0:30 The fact that you have the envelope is pretty impressive
11:34 My first car was a Geo Metro. Basically the same car. Mine had 3 cylinders and was a 5 speed. I think the only car I've ever been in with a worse build quality was a Yugo.
20:25 Finally. Before this was just too many bits for me. No one really ever needs more than 8.
37:30 we should play this game with real cars
42:40 when is the using SEQ files Robin deep dive?
I remember seeing the Geo Metro, and there were a couple more cars that seemed basically identical: Pontiac Firefly, and Suzuki Swift. Even the Holden Barina, according to Google!
Don't forget the Ford Festiva and the Mercury Laser, which was one very small step above a Metro in build quality. It was a Kia car with a Mazda motor and a Ford/Mercury badge. I believe the Festiva was the last car to come with a carburator as standard equipment in 1989 or 90.
@@8_Bit And the Chevy Sprint, which was more like the Swift. I had an 85 model.
Ha, weird that they thought you're supposed to put a space between a word and the punctuation mark that should go right after it, like a comma or exclamation point.
Where can I get that Commodore Chevy Tech music 😀
There's a link to download the Chevy Tech C64 disk image in the video description :)
lol, uncrunching. haven't thought of that in decades.
"SYS 49152" ... music plays. Yeah, that is cool. And then slowing as you did other stuff... heh, kind of funny.
Mr. Harbron, will you please make a follow-up video that shows us and explains how they could multiformat one side of a floppy disk for 3 different formats of drives (and why you had to use side 2 for the Apple even though the instruction said side 1)?
Sorry it wasn't clear enough, but the disk I show from the Chevy Tech envelope only had the IBM PC-compatible version on it. The C64 and Apple II versions were found online; links to their sources are provided in the video description.
@@8_Bit: OHHHH! I heard you talk about those sources but I didn't remember your having said that that's how _you_ got them too. Haha, I was like, "Wow, I know that you can partition a hard drive nowadays to have differently formatted sections, but floppy drives are so specific, especially ones from back in those old days, that it would take some great wizardry to set up a special one at a factory that could write those different formats to different tracks of the same disk side!"
OK, cool, this makes a TON more sense, thanks!
@@HelloKittyFanMan. That reminds me that I do have one triple-format 5.25" floppy disk. Mastertronic's Ninja has IBM PC version on one side, with C64 and Atari sharing the other side which is pretty clever. I would like to do a video about that disk sometime.
@@8_Bit: Oh, WOW, Robin, you just ended a curiosity with one comment and then blew my mind right after with a follow-up! I would LOOOOVVVVEEE to watch a video of everything you could say (and maybe, if we're lucky, even demonstrate!) about how that could work! YESSSS!
It's the chev of 87
i was going to say you unarchived the files to the wrong folder… i think. but its fine :)
Oh the horrible puns and awkward mentions of computer jargon we had to endure back then. Endless byte/bite jokes.
"That lack of a working delete key on Apple..." What were you going to say about it?
Well, the IIgs has it.
I'm boutta disk drive myself off a cliff
Lol "radio delete"...
A 1987 Camaro Z28 with options was $18000+ ? Yikes! That would be about $43000 today. [edit: Those prices are in Canadian or US dollars?]
I think they're all US dollars.
@@8_Bit Now that I think about it, I guess $43000 isn't _THAT_ far off from what a new high-spec Camaro would cost nowadays.
Never heard anyone call it a Zed-28.
Zed’s dead baby...
Canadians are weird.
@@8_Bit we're not weird, it's the Americans that are weird with their "Zee". To quote a famous beer commercial "Z[ed]! Not Zee! Z[ed]!" And to back this up, just ask the rest of the British Commonwealth and the other languages that use the same character set lol
Y'all don't remember these days
El Camino... a Ute. So NOT a truck. But I'm Australian, what would I know 🤣
This disk was meant for the North American market and we don't use the word "ute" here; typically they are called "pickup trucks" or "light trucks" or just... truck.
@@8_Bit I know. I'm just interjecting some Australia into your comments. Thanks for a great video.
Haha, "Press N to do nothing." Hmmm, or just... DO nothing!
woohoo i can maybe buy a celebrity eurosport now?
Oh yeah……
In the future, I could imagine people buying cars by telephoning the car company, receiving a floppy disk in the post in under seven working days, running the program, selecting their options, printing out the specification of the car they want, and then visiting the car showroom instead of making a time-consuming trip to the car showroom.
No one else lets me talior my conteur bucket seats like Chevrolet!
It’s zeeee not zed
do not expose to electric motors.............you mean don't put it in my chevy volt? lol
Ha, that game's pretty stupid to me. But I wonder why they didn't include a game for the other computers.
Why is it that important what LGR has?
Why does this need to be 60fps? Why can't I watch at some other fps so my connection don't bog down.
My video capture device records at 60 fps, as that's what most computers I record output. I don't know why TH-cam doesn't offer a 30 fps version though.
@@8_Bit Don't worry about him. It's not your fault they got their processor from a cereal box. The video plays just fine on any half decent PC or other personal computing device.
(edit: *Loved* the Homestarrunner reference in the vid, BTW)
"The artwork is updated a little bit there." Of course, because they wouldn't want to show a specifically 87 vehicle in an 88 line-up.
"That music, eh?" What about it?
Isn't it creepy that all the people in that brochure are all dead now :(
It's been 33 or 34 years, why do you think they're all dead? :O
@@8_Bit yeah :( my dad says he knew people like this when he was a kid… the 80s, he said, all got AIDS, which was like Covid but worse.