I'm looking at the 4.5 for my losi 22s..do you think this is a good option? I run only hobbywing when all my buddies are into castle, trinity,even tp... I like to be different and stick with hobbywing . Am I making the right decision sir? Last what gearing would you recommend? Many thanks!! I followed your channel! I just realized he passed wow. RIP !!
I really enjoy your content and I respect your opinion thank you for putting this stuff out. Wondering if you have any plans on testing the Trinity Monster Max motors. They are a big hit with the off roaders over here.
Will you be ever putting those results online so we can easily compare different brands? Ive also noticed your videos on other channels so you might want to watermark your videos.
Hi Nick, Im racing indoors on a short/medium very high carpet track. Using a b6.1 and was wondering what motor would work best. Your content is outstanding. Keep it up!
Thanks for the information! I have a team AE B44.2 i am running for fun. I am looking at a hobbywing xr10 legacy ESC and a Reedy sonic 7.5T motor. Do the 2 work together ok?? Is that adequate for my 4wd for a outdoor clay track ? I am running a 90c 6000mah pack
Hi Nick, did you had any issue with the rotor play when reassembling the motor? Mine doesn't have any play at all or it's so small that I cannot feel it... But I think when was new, out of the box it had a little bit... I didn't add any kind of shim, didn't loose any parts... Thanks! J.
Hi Jorge. I am not sure. Tap the shaft on the table, and then tap the other end on the table. It sometimes seats the bearings etc, and gives a little play.
@@nickadams5411 I'll try that again I guess... But I think the same happened on your review. If you have the time, check from 17:30 to 18:00. :) Thanks!
Just setting up my XR10 Combo, G2 ESC and V10 G3R Motor, everything hooked up and soldered and it will not calibrate, no beep from motor, rapid blinking red LED. Brand New Hobbywing XRpro and it's defective ? HELP
Hi. No, there is no advantage. But there is an advantage to use the best ESC and the best motor together.. Note that the LRP (Nosram) ESC do not work with some motors (due to the sensor signal strength).
Nick, had a conversation with a on road team driver, on the 21.5 said I could gear with temps being higher than what I'm used to, 175*F, this would be about 25* warmer than what I run currently? What do you think? Thanks for the video!
Hi. 175F (80 deg C) is as high as you want to go . Any higher and the motor will fade during the race. You also risk burning the coils if you go any hotter. 21.5T motors run hot since they have more resistance in the windings than lower turns (17.5T etc). Use the best fan to cool the motor.
thanks for your videos, very informative and useful for a noob like me. actually, I'm looking for ESC + 13.5 motor for my very first racing 4wd buggy 4wd (EB410), which motor+esc do you recommend in your experience. ? can you share you specs table? gracias!
Hi Dario Email me for the table: nick@demonproducts.co.uk I recommend the Surpass V3 Rocket 13.5T. Very good motor for low price. There are many speed controls. Do not go too cheap. Hobbywing XR10 Just Stock 80A is very good.
The enbell bearing is replaceable in most motors, but may require some force to drift them out from the housings. Note that the Hobbywing motors use a special smaller diameter bearing.
hi nick great job.i just bought a skyrc motor analyzer for my 10.5.how many amps is best for working on 10.5 in blinky mode ? you often speak with 17.5 or 13.5 .. thanks billy
Hi Billy I recommend about 6 amps for all winds (Except 21.5T) as it is the wasted power, as heat in the motor. Also as you advance past this point, the amps increase rapidly, for a very small increase in advance timing. You can set the amps a little higher (Up to 7.5A) if you have a very fast or long straight track. But watch the motor temp (no higher than in the 70s C) after the run.
Nick Adams, im also going to try and set the timing for max performance on a 10.5 using the motor analyser. Do i just set timing with an amp draw of 6A or should i also consider the KV and revs? Also, why dont all manufacturers just set the timing to a 6A draw when building if that is the sweet spot? Thanks Si
Hi Si The 6amp setting is for "Blinky" (Zero ESC timing) so that the motor performs at maximum without overheating. When using ESC with Boost and Turbo features, the motor timing is set lower at about 30 to 40 degrees. The manufactures normally set to the lower timing so that the motor is not damaged when the customer connects a turbo boosted ESC.
Nice video. what is best for drifting. I drive on all hard suffices and have tires to match. I correctly have brushed motors but want to go brushless whats recommended. Thanks
Hi Drifting , needs a contollable motor and speedo combination, for smooth throttle control. These highy tuned, high speed motors are prbably too much. Look out for drift package, which will have a suitable motor.
Thanks i think i will go for this one its what iv been looking for iv not found nothing like it. I run a hobbywing gear in some of my trucks do you think it would go nice with this motor?
Nick Adams Ok. I am planning on racing 1/10 TC indoors this Autumn, the Reedy motor looks good, what motor would you recommend for racing indoors 1/0 touring car
Hi Indoors, I recommend a normal reving, but high strength rotor. Such as Motiv, Fantom or the latest R1 The reedy is very revy and hard to gear indoors.
Hi there. I'm new to the hobby and won a new t6.1 stadium truck. What would be the best motor and electronics to keep up with the rest of the guys racing.
Hi Art A good win. The other guys. What class do they run? The motor could be 17.5T or down to 6.5T. You need to find out. 17.5T and 13.5T I recommend the R1. 6.5T , any make will have more than enough power.
Nick Adams. Thanks for getting back to me. The class is 1/10 scale c class or beginner level for now. I'd like to get good enough to get into intermediate level. 1 of the guys I was talking to runs a hobbywing 10.5t.
Hi Art Most of the new 10.5T motors should be okay. Check the temperature of the motor after a run. If it is too hot to touch, then adjust gearing, or fit a cooling fan for the motor, if there is room.
Hi Cow Poker The 4850kv will be much more powerful , as it achieves that rating at a lower advance timing. A 13.5T can only exceed 4000kv by high advance timing (50degree) which is critical on gearing, and causes more heat loss.
Nick Adams The actual AC motor on my tape deck is 4 times bigger and runs at 120V mains, it’s getting slow and I want to replace it with a DC one I just want to know if its speed is stable for such application if used with a control board.
Hi James These motors are not smooth at low rpm, as they are are normally used in the 20 to 30000rpm range. However they do have a lot of torque. Normal voltage is between 7 and 12 volts The amp draw will depend upon the static timing set on the endbell, but will be at least 2 amps. the shaft is 1/8th. There are larger versions with larger shafts. Brushless motors used in record players tend to be multiple pole, for smooth pusing, and the flywheel will also smooth out the movement. I am not sure how easy it would be to maintain a constant speed even with feedback. As they have 3 coils, you will need an appropriate speed control, such as used in radio control models etc. All the best. Nick
The front bearing is same as most other motors with 1/8th hole. But the rear bearing has a 3mm hole. I have not taken it out, so not sure of outer diameter.
Hi I have tested outlaw motors , but they are always very powerful (superior) and cannot be compared to the legal versions. The whole point of Legal homologated motors is that they are supposed to be the same performance, so that racing is fair. Outlaw motors are the same as Modified Open class motors where the performance is not limited by the motors.
thank nick well i ask you because we run outlaw motor that because we dont have the logistic to check all the cars so to be simples people can run wherever motor the want the only rule is to be not lower that a 10.5
Hi Robert. There are many good 10.5T motors. But depending what is available in your Country, the R1 , Motiv, or Surpass. But there are many others especially if you using ESC boost.
Hi my friend , here we use in stock class with a blinky esc and 10.5 motor , please can you advise me on which is the best esc and 10.5 turn motor on blinky mode
@@robertoborg5618 Hi, The Hobbywing XR10 160A ESC is the best, the motors - there are many, but get one with good torque, such as R1, Surpass, Motiv. Race on, nick
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Thanking you for posting Nick, great info, and simple explanations, gives great value
I'm looking at the 4.5 for my losi 22s..do you think this is a good option? I run only hobbywing when all my buddies are into castle, trinity,even tp... I like to be different and stick with hobbywing . Am I making the right decision sir? Last what gearing would you recommend? Many thanks!! I followed your channel! I just realized he passed wow. RIP !!
I really enjoy your content and I respect your opinion thank you for putting this stuff out. Wondering if you have any plans on testing the Trinity Monster Max motors. They are a big hit with the off roaders over here.
Hi Jordan
Trinity Monster Max is not readily available over here.
I will test one, if I can.
All the best. Nick
Will you be ever putting those results online so we can easily compare different brands? Ive also noticed your videos on other channels so you might want to watermark your videos.
i guess Im quite randomly asking but does anybody know of a good place to stream new movies online ?
@Brentley Legend try flixzone. Just search on google for it =)
thank you Nick. Have you been able to compare the G4 vs this G3? doubting a purchase
To my understanding, Mr. Adams is sadly deceased.
Building a Capra and plan to go with the Hobbywing XR10 combo G2 ESC and G3R 25.5T 2300kv Brushless
Hi Nick, Im racing indoors on a short/medium very high carpet track. Using a b6.1 and was wondering what motor would work best. Your content is outstanding. Keep it up!
Hi Hye
Use a motor with a strong (High gauss) rotor.
Such as the Motiv MCR, The Fantom V3T, or the R1 and the good value Surpass V3 (or V4)
Thanks for the information! I have a team AE B44.2 i am running for fun. I am looking at a hobbywing xr10 legacy ESC and a Reedy sonic 7.5T motor. Do the 2 work together ok?? Is that adequate for my 4wd for a outdoor clay track ? I am running a 90c 6000mah pack
Hi great video very informative those motor soldering tabs look lower or closer to the motor case than the hobbywing v10 g2 motors, is that the case.
Hi
Yes, the clearance is very small.
They have reduced everything to the minimum.
Is this 540 size motor
Hi Nick, did you had any issue with the rotor play when reassembling the motor? Mine doesn't have any play at all or it's so small that I cannot feel it... But I think when was new, out of the box it had a little bit... I didn't add any kind of shim, didn't loose any parts...
Thanks! J.
Hi Jorge. I am not sure. Tap the shaft on the table, and then tap the other end on the table. It sometimes seats the bearings etc, and gives a little play.
@@nickadams5411 I'll try that again I guess... But I think the same happened on your review. If you have the time, check from 17:30 to 18:00. :)
Thanks!
Just setting up my XR10 Combo, G2 ESC and V10 G3R Motor, everything hooked up and soldered and it will not calibrate, no beep from motor, rapid blinking red LED. Brand New Hobbywing XRpro
and it's defective ? HELP
Is there any performance gains or benefits of having the motor and ESC made by the same manufacturer?
Hi. No, there is no advantage. But there is an advantage to use the best ESC and the best motor together..
Note that the LRP (Nosram) ESC do not work with some motors (due to the sensor signal strength).
@@nickadams5411 Ok, thanks!
Nick, had a conversation with a on road team driver, on the 21.5 said I could gear with temps being higher than what I'm used to, 175*F, this would be about 25* warmer than what I run currently? What do you think? Thanks for the video!
Hi. 175F (80 deg C) is as high as you want to go . Any higher and the motor will fade during the race. You also risk burning the coils if you go any hotter.
21.5T motors run hot since they have more resistance in the windings than lower turns (17.5T etc).
Use the best fan to cool the motor.
@@nickadams5411 Thank you Nick, and Happy New Year!
thanks for your videos, very informative and useful for a noob like me. actually, I'm looking for ESC + 13.5 motor for my very first racing 4wd buggy 4wd (EB410), which motor+esc do you recommend in your experience. ? can you share you specs table? gracias!
Hi Dario
Email me for the table: nick@demonproducts.co.uk
I recommend the Surpass V3 Rocket 13.5T.
Very good motor for low price.
There are many speed controls.
Do not go too cheap.
Hobbywing XR10 Just Stock 80A is very good.
Hey Nick, is the end bell bearing replaceable? Seems like it will fit the sensor board hole.
The enbell bearing is replaceable in most motors, but may require some force to drift them out from the housings. Note that the Hobbywing motors use a special smaller diameter bearing.
@@nickadams5411 thank you. The g2 motors were a nightmare to do with the sensor board in the way.
hi nick great job.i just bought a skyrc motor analyzer for my 10.5.how many amps is best for working on 10.5 in blinky mode ?
you often speak with 17.5 or 13.5 ..
thanks billy
Hi Billy
I recommend about 6 amps for all winds (Except 21.5T) as it is the wasted power, as heat in the motor.
Also as you advance past this point, the amps increase rapidly, for a very small increase in advance timing.
You can set the amps a little higher (Up to 7.5A) if you have a very fast or long straight track.
But watch the motor temp (no higher than in the 70s C) after the run.
Nick Adams, im also going to try and set the timing for max performance on a 10.5 using the motor analyser. Do i just set timing with an amp draw of 6A or should i also consider the KV and revs? Also, why dont all manufacturers just set the timing to a 6A draw when building if that is the sweet spot? Thanks Si
Hi Si
The 6amp setting is for "Blinky" (Zero ESC timing) so that the motor performs at maximum without overheating.
When using ESC with Boost and Turbo features, the motor timing is set lower at about 30 to 40 degrees.
The manufactures normally set to the lower timing so that the motor is not damaged when the customer connects a turbo boosted ESC.
Nick Adams thanks for the clarification.
Is The hobbywing The best Motor in 13.5turn class
Hi
It has only just been released, so need to see it on the track.
It may be very good on fast outdoor tracks.
Nick Adams ok thx from Austria
Nice video. what is best for drifting. I drive on all hard suffices and have tires to match. I correctly have brushed motors but want to go brushless whats recommended. Thanks
Hi
Drifting , needs a contollable motor and speedo combination, for smooth throttle control.
These highy tuned, high speed motors are prbably too much.
Look out for drift package, which will have a suitable motor.
Ok im really struggleing to deside on a motor would you have any idea on what to get. They tent to run 10.5T motors to keep heat down
Hi
You are right, they seem to run motors that are very powerful.
Check this one out:
www.racing-cars.com/pp/Product_Category/Full_List/SP000196.html
Thanks i think i will go for this one its what iv been looking for iv not found nothing like it. I run a hobbywing gear in some of my trucks do you think it would go nice with this motor?
Yes, Hobbywing speedos have a lot of settings.
Does the purchasing of all these motors & Batteries come out of your own pocket? If so it’s a lot of money!
Hi
I do have to buy them, as no one has ever given me any.
Mostly I am able to sell them on to racers.
Nick Adams Ok. I am planning on racing 1/10 TC indoors this Autumn, the Reedy motor looks good, what motor would you recommend for racing indoors 1/0 touring car
Hi
Indoors, I recommend a normal reving, but high strength rotor.
Such as Motiv, Fantom or the latest R1
The reedy is very revy and hard to gear indoors.
Nick Adams thanks for the advice😀 forgot to mention I will be racing 13.5 Blinky if that makes a difference
I would like to see a video comparing a motor with aluminum screws vs without.
Hi Brian
Yes, I plan on doing that
Hi there. I'm new to the hobby and won a new t6.1 stadium truck. What would be the best motor and electronics to keep up with the rest of the guys racing.
Hi Art
A good win.
The other guys. What class do they run? The motor could be 17.5T or down to 6.5T. You need to find out.
17.5T and 13.5T I recommend the R1.
6.5T , any make will have more than enough power.
Nick Adams. Thanks for getting back to me. The class is 1/10 scale c class or beginner level for now. I'd like to get good enough to get into intermediate level. 1 of the guys I was talking to runs a hobbywing 10.5t.
Hi Art
Most of the new 10.5T motors should be okay.
Check the temperature of the motor after a run.
If it is too hot to touch, then adjust gearing, or fit a cooling fan for the motor, if there is room.
Thanks for the info. What would give me the best acceleration and speed though. In your opinion.
how does a 13.5t motor compare to a 4850kv motor?
Hi Cow Poker
The 4850kv will be much more powerful , as it achieves that rating at a lower advance timing.
A 13.5T can only exceed 4000kv by high advance timing (50degree) which is critical on gearing, and causes more heat loss.
Thanks for another great review Nick! Any chance you would consider doing a review on the Maclan MRR Team Edition V2 (17.5)?
Hi Garrett
I would like to do the Maclan. I just have to buy one.
can y do a test on the Maclan 17.5 v2 motor and with the op. rotors
Hi Michael
I will try and get the Maclan
Are those good for tape transport belt driven capstan ?
No, much too big.
I meant for RCA tape cartridge or small reel to reel machine. Is the speed very stable for audio applications?
Hi james
No, they are much too big. Also a normal 2 pole Dc motor is used in most tape players.
Nick Adams The actual AC motor on my tape deck is 4 times bigger and runs at 120V mains, it’s getting slow and I want to replace it with a DC one I just want to know if its speed is stable for such application if used with a control board.
Hi James
These motors are not smooth at low rpm, as they are are normally used in the 20 to 30000rpm range.
However they do have a lot of torque.
Normal voltage is between 7 and 12 volts
The amp draw will depend upon the static timing set on the endbell, but will be at least 2 amps.
the shaft is 1/8th. There are larger versions with larger shafts.
Brushless motors used in record players tend to be multiple pole, for smooth pusing, and the flywheel will also smooth out the movement.
I am not sure how easy it would be to maintain a constant speed even with feedback.
As they have 3 coils, you will need an appropriate speed control, such as used in radio control models etc.
All the best. Nick
What is The best Motor 13.5t for Touring Cars Asphalt
Hi Manuel
The R1, MuchMore and Hobbywing all deliver on fast asphalt tracks.
The R1 is probably the easier to use.
The Hobbywing has more revs.
Do you know the bearing sizes in the G3?
The front bearing is same as most other motors with 1/8th hole.
But the rear bearing has a 3mm hole.
I have not taken it out, so not sure of outer diameter.
Better g2 bandit or this g3 xerun??
The G3R due out August 2019 will be the best motor.
Thanks, how much degrees you suggest and shims on it? (17.5)
@@awastyle9198 The Hobbywing G3 set about 50 degrees on the endbell for blinky. The end float shim should be okay with a small movement.
nick how you ever try a hb bandit 17.5 motor
Hi jairo
The HB Bandit or the Hobbywing Bandit.?
No, as the newer Xerun V10 G3 is far superior.
hello nick yes is the Hobbywing Bandit outlaw i know that the g3 hobbywing is superior to g2 spec but i dont if is superior to bandit outlaw
Hi
I have tested outlaw motors , but they are always very powerful (superior) and cannot be compared to the legal versions.
The whole point of Legal homologated motors is that they are supposed to be the same performance, so that racing is fair.
Outlaw motors are the same as Modified Open class motors where the performance is not limited by the motors.
thank nick well i ask you because we run outlaw motor that because we dont have the logistic to check all the cars so to be simples people can run wherever motor the want the only rule is to be not lower that a 10.5
Which is the best 10.5 motor
Hi Robert. There are many good 10.5T motors. But depending what is available in your Country, the R1 , Motiv, or Surpass. But there are many others especially if you using ESC boost.
Hi my friend , here we use in stock class with a blinky esc and 10.5 motor , please can you advise me on which is the best esc and 10.5 turn motor on blinky mode
@@robertoborg5618 Hi, The Hobbywing XR10 160A ESC is the best, the motors - there are many, but get one with good torque, such as R1, Surpass, Motiv. Race on, nick
@@nickadams5411 please can you send the model number of 10.5 R1 to try to find one from here but the R1 is in the regulations of the BRCA
Hi Robert. You are right, there is no R1 10.5T. Try the zombie or Surpass.
It is a 540?
Hi . Yes it is a 540 size.
only left the dyno test ;-)