I just want my blue belt because having my white belt is still displaying I'm in survival mode. the real learning comes from after you get blue. other than that it's all basic concepts
It took me 4 years to get my blue. I had some issues with a my previous coaches that is what took me somewhat longer. Don't worry about the belt, take your time and enjoy the ride. Most people I know that quit after blue is mostly due to the color and I got my basics down. After I got my blue, I felt like my journey barely started. Fight on, everyone.
BTW guys I'm 52 a few weeks ago I was sparring with some of our young guys who were fighting in the cage by sparring I mean stand up, striking, and on the ground one of them asked me my age he was 24, I told him to which he said ''and your taking the fight up to the young blokes that's awesome'' I was bullied at school I'm no stud, I'm not good looking, and I'm not the smartest guy around but to have a young man say something like that to an old AH like me changed my life forever, and changed my attitude towards these young men, keep going guys never give up, if you cannot get to a school train at home find a mate to train with, anything, sooner or later it will come to you, and you will be ready.
I train about 2 to 3 days a week because my body just can't take more than that, but I seriously don't get upset during promotions because too much is placed on tips and belt colors when you should be focused on learning jiu Jitsu. If I were to stay a blue belt for 10 years, but be able to handle myself against Brown and Black belts (Which I can't yet) then I'm cool with that. You getting better is all that matters and in a real life situation then aggressor will not care what rank you are, nor will it matter if you forget technique.
People quit at blue belt because about midway into your blue belt... you can handle just about any regular untrained guy in a fight. Anything above mid-level blue belt is basically expert training.
Zeet that's exactly what one of my seminar instructors said. All you need is blue to be able to fuck up any normal person in a fight. Beyond that is just to fuck up other practitioners haha
People quit at blue belt because: They know they are going to sit at blue for 4+ years. They are being ignored by their instructor and don't know how to advance on their own. They are tired of asking, "what am I doing wrong" and being told "you're doing fine". They see how common sandbagging is and that to get a purple belt they will have to have the skill of a brown belt. They see uneven standards being applied without explanation. They see their instructors don't care about them as people. They see that their instructor thinks loyalty is a one way street. They are getting punished for having the nerve to ask about rank. They are tired of losing in competitions to brown belts wearing blue belts. They are sick of Instructors not caring when they are injured. They are at a school where years go by an no one gets promoted. They have an instructor who won't work with them financially and would rather have no money than a little less than full price. They are tired of the politics. They get injured and can't do half of the normal stuff anymore.
Spirit Splice I think you hit it on the button my friend. The first school I went to the instructor was only attentive to his higher belts. The lower ranks never got any better and the teacher was not receptive to questions unless it was from the good guys at the academy. Second school i visited the teacher was nice but there was too much politics involved. For the most part its about finding a teacher that knows where to draw the line, and a teacher that really wants to make everyone better by rolling with them, watching them roll and pointing out their mistakes. Never really had that until now.
I watched this when I first started to BJJ and it really helped, now i'm about a year in and coming back watching this really hits home. RIP Professor Owen.
I've been training in jiu-jitsu since 2002. The closest bjj black belt instructor to me is 2 1/2 hours away from me. makes it challenging working a full time job
Glad you made this video.. I've been training for a long while now (different system) But when I was ready to test several years ago, I wasn't allowed to test because I had just gotten pregnant.. I continued to train, but no contact & my OBGYN was also a martial artists, he monitored everything.. Finally I did test and time went on and later we planned another baby.. So life and injuries do happen that hold off testing but be safe & keep training, I have not given up.. Someone once told me don't worry about the belt, it just holds ur pants up.. I took that advice, stopped caring about my rank & just trained, I have become better for it... Enjoy your training, stop worrying about the color of your belt and have fun as Well.. I'm also glad that my husband and children train, even grandma.. It's a family of martial artists.. Thanks for the video..
haha love this video, that evil force doesn't stop trying to end my JiuJitsu. That force never goes away, Family, work, lack of progress, fatigue, insomnia, and worst of all injuries.
The Gracies respected the shit out of Bruce Lee, who took the time to learn grappling when most strikers at that time arrogantly thought they didn't need to grapple. If he was still alive, he'd probably get into BJJ to supplement his other stuff since he was always trying to learn
how much flouride are you ingesting, you silly fuck.. Bruce would skull fuck and shit on the head of any BJJ blue/purple/ect his speed and ability to read an opponent are what made him so victorious
I've been a blue for over 12 years--hopefully I'll get purple someday. Everything he is saying is true. I'm not giving up though. So far I've weathered injuries, marriage, kids, moves, etc, but still am hanging on. Hopefully this can encourage others.
Murdoc Rutle Thanks for the nice words. Actually, I can usually catch a black each training session, but almost always with leg/footlocks. Very few dominant positions on upper belts, which is maybe why I stay at blue...Thanks again.
Injuries become a factor for many. People get tired of having a sore back and joint discomfort. Walking around like they are an 80+ year old gets tiresome.
I quit BJJ as a one stripe white belt and didn't come back until 4 years later. I always regretted quitting. All the guys I started with are good purple belts...but I found a great teacher at the Rilion Gracie academy after moving states and he was invested in all the students from brand new white belts to higher belts. I'm proud to say after nearly a year of training there I got my blue belt last month. My first promotion mixed with having a great teacher motivates me to train more.
This brings back so many memories of when I was a Blue belt. The day I got my Purple belt in 2008 ,I was so happy. The Blue belt was something special now that I look back...
I think the issue is that it gets repetitive. Here is every 80% of blue belt matches: one person pulls guard. Then they chill and try not to move. Either the person on top also chills or gets bored and countered. The rules work here (Japan) in such a way that you're rewarded for lying on the ground and hugging your opponent.
I think that its the same across the board .in martial arts a person has to have that desire to train .Its something that 1 out of 100 have .Thats the reality .If its not in you you wont stay.
Looks like someone never learned the self-defense side of BJJ. You WANT to be hugging an opponent who is trying to punch your face in. The goal is to survive, not to pull guard and sink in a triangle or guillotine while someone is slamming you.
Fuck waiting years for belts. If proficiency is demonstrated and a student consistently outperforms his/her classmates and wins at competition against outsiders they should be advanced. Ultimately belt color winds up being trivial after years of training but it is a motivator that will keep a student on the path initially.
espada9 It's all ceremony and how much money you can bring in after a few levels of black belt, I hope that statement does not come as a surprise. At 67 your focus is to pass on your knowledge and experience not executing at the level of twenty-somethings. Simplest way to judge advancement is to observe and once you are sufficiently impressed ask the student to teach the material to others.
espada9 Proficiency against classmates of the same rank, and winning competitions (note the plural) against outside opponents of the same rank is very different from a single win against a 67 year old.
benji ben That depends on what belts signify. If they are to signify proficiency, I wouldn't blame someone for feeling like their work and dedication are not being recognized. If they are to show how long you have been around, then it doesn't really matter. I guess the question Jiu Jitsu schools should ask is: "what does a belt mean?"
I like what this guy has to say. I just earned my blue belt and I'm mainly in it for the principles and practicing for the fun of it. Martial arts in general is my life!
My goodness! This is so true. Without doubt, this was what happened to me back in 1999 when I was a blue belt in Karate. I quitted practicing for some reason. It's been 16 years today and no exercise, no workout, no rigorous physical activity like I used to do back then: lots of physical disorders and weaknesses in my 30's.
Tuesday will be my 4th Gracie jiu jitsu class, and luckily I couldn’t care less about belts. I know how to defend myself, growing up in Springfield, MA will do that for you. I just love jiu jitsu and can’t wait to keep learning.
every time i stopped martial arts was because of finances. practiced various styles from age 15-26. then i gave up completely in order to fix my finances and my future. i still love martial arts. wish i could find some like minded people to train with for fun without signing up with a school.
Sadly im one of those who had to quit at blue belt. A bunch of health issues and life got in the way. I keep telling myself I want to go back, hopfully I will one day. Great video.
The leather belt that is the one that hurts the most when you hit somebody with it . Leather is better and belts are stupid anyway . Its all about the money
Somethin that was instilled in me from a young age of martial arts. its not about the belt its about being there, participating, trying making an effort to improve.
why do people quit bjj? Because, like Boom Boom Mancini said "it breaks your body down." God bless these people who continue in bjj past their 40s. I don't know how they do it, except that they have a very high tolerance for the pain (not of taking class, but of recovery from class)
We roll light, using technique over strength. I also prioritize conditioning over BJJ, only do BJJ twice a week. It's the way I should have been doing it all along.
I am 42 and just started !!! I have done Muay Thai and KRav for many years but I love it , so far , despite being more complex than I could imagine and the class is only teaching white belt moves.
Why people worry about getting a belt ?? To me ju-jutsu is a journey ... and as a journy you should enjoy the ride and not to worry for the end ...im a white belt no stripes and i roll with two blue belts four stripes who kick my ass and dont matter cause i am learning in ju-jutsu there is no winning nor loosing there is learning ...
Hi guys! I´ll talk about myself! I´m almost 40 years old now and i´m a lawyer. I always dream with black belt. 10 years ago i was reaching purple belt but i moved to another city and had to study every hours i could. Years later, after settle down, I really tryied to come back, but everytime i suffered an injury and had few time to spend in the gym. I also see some problems with the brazilians jiu jitsu schools. The masters always want to form a top team to compete, so that´s how they would be recognised. This team is formed with kids in the age about 20 years old. These kids don´t work and train hard every day. And the philosophy in the class is a totally rumble to simulate competition. Of course, people like me will get injuried. It´s just suicide to come back training hard BJJ with a competitor of 20 years old. I feel that each day i´m more distant to be able to come back. Even with an awesome stretching and warming up, nowadays i get injuryed even in weight trainning. Just getting worse, the audiences i make pull me away from the scars and strathches in my face...aging sucks!!
Been training for a year consistently 2-3x a week. One stripe white belt. It's kind of a nice feeling to be tapping out the 2 and 3 stripe white belts now. Don't really mind getting promoted slowly lol
People quit at blue belt because a blue belt will beat 99% of people on the streets. It's almost as good as a black belt vs untrained opponents. Many people want to be good enough to defend themselves, and a blue belt does that.
Christian Thames that's bullshit. If you quit at bluebelt you will be above average at sweeping and submitting. Sure you'll be able to wipe out a drunk in a fist fight... maybe. But what if you haven't been keeping up on your cardio. Sucking down greasy burgers and drinking Jack and cokes. You're not training because you quit. Those skills won't be sharp. Fast twitch muscles and muscle memory won't react properly at the moment of truth. You might as easily get trounced. All because you had learned all there is to learn about self defense at bluebelt... hmmm
@Christian Thames - - I agree. When you put in a few years of consistence training, are recognized as being decent at the art, and are comfortable with your skill level, it's easy to say, "time for an extended break."
@@markmartin5364 i apologize for my crass attitude. I was obviously having a bad day when i posted that remark. Blue belt is the belt where you pick up multiple responsibilities. A responsibility not to make beginner mistakes. A responsibility for your physical fitness and motivation. A responsibility to bring the whitebelts along with you. Some cannot handle the pressure. And I have had my ass handed to me by many colored belts. And i love every second of it. Sorry for the rude post though. God bless. ❤
My instructor always said make the "moves" your own to make them stick. Willing to experiment no matter the outcome, patience, accept self and peer criticism is what makes a blue a purple, purple a brown and eventually a black. Make the moves personal to you with your own twists so you remember them instinctively then perfect them. The sooner you can "feel" Jiu Jitsu without having to think, the sooner you will enjoy it even more and progress. If anything, atleast stay until you can frustrate your instructor with your ability to escape,avoid their submissions and stay alive that's when the REAL fun begins. They will eventually get you of course, but when your instructor starts saying "hey you roll with me first, that you warmed him or her up for everyone else or that you need to focus on submissions for a month" your knocking at that door.
A belt is a symbol of achievement. The thing is that if it takes you to long to get something that proves your effort then you become tired, and off course doing a martial art 10 or 15 years to get a black belt or even to achieve some kind of mastery its not something regular people can do, and thats because the comitment that is required to do so its very high for someone with family, career etc. History has proven that every martial art needed 10 years or more for someone to get a black belt when it was first established, but when more people started doing them black belts became easier to achieve.That said when someone pays to learn something its his right to need some proof of grade, and i think that thats something that needs consideration.
I know when you're really into something, it can be hard to imagine how others are not as interested as you are. But people quit things all the time, for many reasons. Time, money, to explore other interests.
People quit because too many instructors out there are not even black belts themselves and cannot really promote you to the higher ranks. Whoever said a brown belt in BJJ is equivalent to a black belt in other martial arts has probably went to some McDojo. This whole "minimum of 10 years before being a black belt" sounds ridiculous to me. If you're good, you're good - no use waiting 6-7 years to become a purple belt or 10-15 years to become a black belt. Judo is much more complex than most BJJ schools out there and it doesn't take 10 years to achieve a black belt if you're good.
Funny that you talk about evidence while you don't supply any yourself. Just because you didn't hear of a school not run by a black belt doesn't mean it doesn't exist, nor thinking that BJJ that originates in Judo is more complex. Some do quit because of money, but people lose interest when they don't advance - promotion, competition, whatever. There's also a person's opinion, and mine contrasts yours - doesn't mean you're right in any of your statements.
A real BJJ black belt will take at least 10 years to complete, and that's training 5 days a week. Sure people have been promoted sooner, but that's really the exception. There is so much to learn, so many details, a lot of intricacies. You would know that if you trained.
Omega A my coach is a purple 4th stripe. Brilliant teacher under the guidance of royce gracie who visits every 4months along with other high level black belts. My coach won't promote anyone because he wants to leave it to royce but believe me when I say this the purple belt instructor I have produces better fighters than any of the other clubs around the local area.
Loved the advice to help us achieve our goals. Hate the belt marketing thing though. When in History were Martial Arts a sole successful means of income (without tainting the values & practicality of the discipline)?
Man, I don't want to sound like a crybaby or like I'm making excuses, but I have always been interested and fascinated with different martial arts, including a new-found discovery and interest in BJJ (my next door neighbor, Andron Wright, is a blackbelt in BJJ). I started as a very basic beginner (but a good all-round athlete) taking Aikido and Kung Fu courses and was really excited about pursuing it and learning more. And then I developed a condition called cervical radiculopathy (aka cervical "pinched nerve") that is more painful, debilitating, and difficult to get rid of than anything I could have ever imagined and was just completely and summarily crippled and taken out of the game. I guess my point is that some may choose to quit or drop out and some may have that decision made for them. Stay strong, be humble but persistent, and try to avoid injuries. Much respect.
if he is as good as he is in inspirational speaches, hes a hell of a martial arts instructor! loved the video even if i am not affiliated with jiu-jitsu at all ;-)
The curriculum in most schools is shaped for competition and that atmosphere creates a lot of alpha attitudes on top of this, life in general gets in the way. There has to be curriculum goal set in mind. One to learn Jiujitsu for self defense and two, the option to learn sports competition. This will create opportunities for students to stick around longer for their training purposes.
I got my blue belt from Royce Gracie but had to stop due to constant back injuries, not being able to trust others not to injure me during rolling, people going all out to scalp me because I have a black belt in another (stand up style) , it started to feel like work.
And here I am, just wanting to learn and develop my game. If someone gives me a different colored belt - cool, but its the learning that matters, how well I understand.
I quit at 2nd degree blue belt back in 2000. I'm 45 now, I just have way too many things going on. But sadly, it is a young man's sport. You become way to susceptible to injury if you try to compete at an older age so what's the point. To me, it's boring to train if I can't compete with 100% tenacity like I did in my younger years.
Sometimes a white belt will kick your ass because often they just come from no-gi to Gi and they've spent years doing no-gi. In other words always consider the background and context of the white belts and don't get pissed if they beat your ass.
@basedvato LOL!! I experienced that back in 1999. A big guy in white belt approached me during a Saturday sparring class. This guy was strong, he was throwing me all over the mat while trying to strangle and smother me. After 10 minutes, he winded himself and the match ended with my knee on his chest (he was sideways though, his shoulders never touched the mat) and trying to sweep his arm lapel to gain mount. After he told me that he has been wrestling competitively for 8 years. I was a 2nd degree blue belt while he was wearing the white belt. I'm sure it looked strange to onlookers seeing a higher level getting overpowered and thrown around like that. But at least I didn't lose and was able to conserve energy.
Come on mate, you know full well if someone is throwing anyone about, its not bjj. Its back to that debate of sport bjj vs traditional bjj. All bjj works with very little effort. Anyone with more than ten minute training would have seen it for what it was.
People quit at blue belt cuz they can't afford the gyms or the academies anymore everyday they're becoming more expensive 150$ & prices similar to that so that's why people quit if you guys make them more affordable maybe more people will come or will continue
***** I feel like I get my money's worth. When I boxed, had I paid for a package similar to the one at my BJJ school, it would have cost about the same. Anyway, a lot of schools offer a free first lesson. Maybe you should try before you buy. I did, and I thought $125 a month was worth it.
+RubioNegroZaravia yh & that's the problem cz not everyone can afford it's too much they should do it a lot cheaper than $150 a month so more students can afford the classes & more people come to those classes
Iam a white belt and travel to brazil in a few days for train 3 week in a camp. Iam nerveous and full of anxious. Thxs god that I found that speech before I am leaving...
lol at my comment this is 2 years ago..and today im in my room feeling sad i cannot go to jiujitsu with a 3rd degree brazilian blackbelt..because im too broke that if i sign up itd mean not eating lol..luckily i've gained enough experience over the years to become a decent grappler..and thats cool enough to keep..
True. My school had guys rolling for a few years and I come in and get killed. I got my blue and purple, then started training at many different schools and stopped testing. I still roll, just at different spots. I have been training for 12yrs now... and I still get tapped...
Probably the most common reason is that like all learning curves they are steep at first and then flatten out. I trained in BJJ for 3 years. I got my bluebelt in one year and then quit 2 years later due to a serious hand injury. But even aside from the injury I was feeling that I was on a plateau that just would not end. BJJ is difficult to learn, and the increasing level of subtleties after bluebelt increase the difficulty.
I had resolved to complete at least fifty classes but after four or five got pneumonia and didn't return, upon recovery went to a Systema class instead. My BJJ 'class' was all free style rolling, no drills or structured practice. I talked to guys who had trained there for one and a half years and NEVER were taught the 'self defense' methods and had NEVER done anything which did not start from on their knees. At least in the Systema class we dealt with people trying to punch you in the head.
This is why I think stripes are great idea..I know every says belts don’t matter..but when your year 2 into your blue belt and you get your second stripe it does give you a metal bump to get the third..and so on
Renato Laranja Good for you, buddy. However I'm not sure how you expect me or anyone else to take that message when simply saying that has no support for you either being a good teacher or a bad one.
I am new but was wondering why they don’t do stripes to show progression in the belt levels..or maybe a new belt between blue and purple..my kids bjj class had a gray belt and green belt to keep the kids mind set on pushing forward.
What people fail to realize is that a belt is not going to save you in a life or death situation. Rank does hold value and is supposed to be representative of your knowledge base for skills set. However, if you dont have the skills that will be there to protect you in a real life situation, the belt serves you no purpose and, in turn, defeats the purpose of studying the art.
I was 57 yrs old when I started...got hurt after a year...knee injury that doesn't seem to want to heal...i want to go back but its very tough at my age...any suggestions?
i lived abroad for a while after getting my blue belt and i couldnt train there. when i got home i just couldnt get going again. i'm in the throes of coming back though. i wanna get that purple :)
thats the one draw back about blue belts, they have the skills to be assholes to other blues and below but that humility and laid back attitude of higher belts hasnt sunk in yet. I was reading one post where they were talking about how all their brown and black belts were assholes and im like what sschool is this bc EVERY school ive visited those were the MOST friendly and helpful
Some only want the self-defense techniques of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu which ends just before blue belt. Getting the blue belt is the end of the line for these people.
There's self-defense at all levels in Gracie Jiu-Jitsu. The most common are at white belt, but you move into other scenarios and weapon defenses at blue and higher.
I am not a BJJ practitioner but I feel like training for it should be like training for other things in life. If you fail to be invested in your training and you quit then it is on you. If you get discouraged because you keep getting submitted and quit then you did not train properly. Ask questions. If you get submitted by a higher rank you should be asking how that person did it and what could you have done to prevent it or escape from it. If the person you are rolling with refuses to answer questions go ask your teacher. I do have some martial arts experience in Shotokan Karate and I never sparred with a higher rank that would not answer any questions I had. As I said, I am not a BJJ practitioner but it seems to be a very cerebral art that requires you to do more than just go to class and go through the motions.
I’ve never equated doing the dishes to going to BJJ class. If I ever wasn’t feeling like going to class I don’t go. I go because of how fun it is and how it’s my escape.
This is the first time iv seen Keith Owens, great speaker and motivator, would be an awesome instructor. Iv been kickboxing for a while and have now gotten into BJJ, 3 stripes on my white, my goal is obviously a blue, but at 48yrs old, kickboxing is a little harder on your body, hopefully BJJ is something I can do without to many injuries...But I still feel id rather get punched in the face than have some BJJ guy on my chest and that HORRIBLE feeling of not being able to breathe! lol
I've been training at my gym for a year and a 2 and a 1/2 to 3 yearsPeople that came in 6 months ago And I'm already been moated over me the thing is is that I can Tap them More than they can get me I have a disability I know one handed fighter so I have had to adapt modify About 85% of class I felt like I was being looked over Because I don't compete in they do During my jujitsu journey I've been bouncing around to other gyms just trying to learn notifications developing my own style with other coaches help professors help They coach and regular to for all my modifications The other gym Here was promoting his other students last week and then he promoted me is last I graciously accepted because he believes I'm ready and so do I The problem arises when I brought it up to my main coach after About a week of turmoil I don't know exactly what to do One handed I learn modifications developing styles The respect I have for both coaches professors Because my in blue bill will not be recognized at the 1st gym
Not everyone has the time or money to go to an organized, scheduled training academy that forces its students to spend hours, days, weeks, months, and years going over the same tactics and strategies repeatedly. I completely agree that BJJ takes time and effort and patience, but if someone has the skill to submit a higher ranking practitioner then they should be promoted on the spot. True story: I spent almost 20 years competing at Greco Roman wrestling and decided to try Jiu Jitsu because I was a cop and wanted to learn new techniques. The first week of class, which was incredibly expensive, I submitted a brown belt who was very close to receiving his black belt. It wasn't because I knew more Jiu Jitsu, it was because of my wrestling background and because I knew one arm bar submission really well. I didn't get promoted and didn't expect to, my point is that BJJ should not be treated as an art that requires ranked belts. I was much more experienced at ground fighting and grappling than that brown belt and he knew it. He didn't get upset, he actually asked me to train with him and help him which I thought was very professional on his part. I didn't stay at that school long because it was too fucking expensive. Ive since continued my Jiu Jitsu education and training on my own for the past 12 years. I'm sure with my knowledge and experience that I would have been a black belt for many years by now but I chose to train outside a traditional school. Lots of people do.
Hell i have been in Judo for 5 years and I'm just green belt, for different reasons i can't go as much as i would like, but i hang there and i hope to get my blue belt in 2018 finally, and i have recently began jiu jitsu and I'm in love with it too, i guess i will be white belt for a looooooooong time
I thought a lot about quitting. And honestly it's not about the belt. It's been over 4 years and I'm not even blue. It's the injuries. And the bruises everywhere. And being sore after hard training. The very slow improvement is a bit discouraging, but it's the injuries that mess with me. I've had knee surgery, should AC joint separation, both sides (3rd and 1st degree), a fractured rib, ... and lots of more minor things that took me off the mats 2-3 weeks each time... Sore neck, sore back, ... I've really only trained 2-ish years over these 4+ years ...
BJJ can demand a lot and for some people it doesn't offer much back. I did it for 6 years, got my purple belt and quit. I just didn't enjoy it any more, and that was after trying a break, trying a few new gyms. I'll tell you something though: I don't miss it.
Our BJJ head instructor a few weeks ago said that you never stop learning, as Ron Balicki who has trained with Dan Inosanto for 30 years said all of a sudden Dan will do something he has never seen before and he will think where the hell did that come from to which he said you are an eternal student, I have often been told by many instructors once you get your Black your just starting my friends out there don't be so hard on yourselves it never ends which I think is a good thing, it keeps you hungry, but I think the belts keep you focused, never give up brothers.
I, personally, moved to a town without a bjj school. That hasn't stopped me learning online and from other resources though and working out to be more physically capable. I've rolled with some people on occasion since and performed better than I did before I moved so you can improve if you keep learning regardless of belts.
I'm a no gi grappler with about 5 years experience of no go bjj and submission wrestling for MMA. I've just recently started training in the Gi (finally). How long do you estimate it should take me to earn a BJJ blue belt? I'm training about 4 hours a week at the moment. The rank itself isn't a big thing to me, but its a bit weird being on the mats in a white belt and basically mauling everyone at that level (and a good portion of the blue belts too).
aikighost Since u have 5 years of experience, the teacher should instantly reward you a blue belt. It would be stupid to keep you with the white belts. But that's the thing, it all depends on the academy/teacher. The blue belts tells that you recognize moves and positions. You see small patterns and you understand the basics. Since you can keep up with most of the blue belts, that's definitely where u should be. But rather on focusing on the belt, focus on becoming better no matter what. Make challenges for yourself when you roll with someone not so experienced. Use only one arm, only do armbars and/or give them mount and work from there etc. Give yourself a handicap. Then you'll learn no matter what. Teaching others improved my learning, because you need to know your shit, mostly when they start to ask stuff. Imo the best ones to roll with are the total fresh white belts, specially the one who jumps around alot. You'll never know what they'll do. And I learned much about controlling my opponent doing this, specially the heavy guys, because my technique needs to be on point if im going to hit the sweep etc. Rolling with the more experienced ones are more about timing and combinations.
Ola Nordmann Cheers. Nah he wont give me blue till I've got more experience in the gi and also till his black belt instructor has seen me a few times. But yes I try to roll with everyone from noob white belts right through to the instructor himself. Anyway its all fun and Im enjoying myself a lot regardless of what belt I wear :)
Ok so I have a question. I just started BJJ and I was wondering if you have to go to competitions and stuff like that. Like do all BJJ academy’s require it or do only some require it?
DO NOT THINK ABOUT BELTS!!! A black Belt is a White Belt who didnt quit
I like that
I just want my blue belt because having my white belt is still displaying I'm in survival mode. the real learning comes from after you get blue. other than that it's all basic concepts
I like the saying I just find it kinda a funny that the quote is from Pinterest. No hate or anything like thay
Yes i did take this from Renzo Gracie's pinterest and Renzo propably took it from his teachers pinterest back in the early 80's
Peter Kazavis What's not worth it?
At this moment 149,000 people viewed part 1. Only 48,000 viewed part 2.. #BlueBelts
Alfonso Del Valle 😂😂😂
Why is that? Did they quit already?
@@edgarbiii4661 Finishing Part I is Blue Belt; Part II is the Purple Belt
It took me 4 years to get my blue. I had some issues with a my previous coaches that is what took me somewhat longer. Don't worry about the belt, take your time and enjoy the ride. Most people I know that quit after blue is mostly due to the color and I got my basics down. After I got my blue, I felt like my journey barely started. Fight on, everyone.
BTW guys I'm 52 a few weeks ago I was sparring with some of our young guys who were fighting in the cage by sparring I mean stand up, striking, and on the ground one of them asked me my age he was 24, I told him to which he said ''and your taking the fight up to the young blokes that's awesome'' I was bullied at school I'm no stud, I'm not good looking, and I'm not the smartest guy around but to have a young man say something like that to an old AH like me changed my life forever, and changed my attitude towards these young men, keep going guys never give up, if you cannot get to a school train at home find a mate to train with, anything, sooner or later it will come to you, and you will be ready.
tander101 Thanks brother, remember what SF soldiers say a man can only be beaten 2 ways when he gives up or when he dies.
Gavin Thorpe thanks mate.
Good job Colin, I love your message here. I started jujitsu really late, when I was 48, and today I can still fight 30 years old mates.
54, just joined I’ve not trained in stand up for over 34 years. Humbling yet inspiring couple of weeks .
I train about 2 to 3 days a week because my body just can't take more than that, but I seriously don't get upset during promotions because too much is placed on tips and belt colors when you should be focused on learning jiu Jitsu. If I were to stay a blue belt for 10 years, but be able to handle myself against Brown and Black belts (Which I can't yet) then I'm cool with that. You getting better is all that matters and in a real life situation then aggressor will not care what rank you are, nor will it matter if you forget technique.
Well said you will go far with that mindset
Are you a brown belt now ? 7 years later or did you quit st blue
@@heckalydalii200 I quit because the school closed and the closest one to me was about 45min and I couldn't do it with kids. I miss it a lot though.
Exactly
@@juandoe7802 you have enough training to go online classes
Rest in peace, Professor Owen. Thank you so much for everything.
@@BeachSamuraiStudios Heart attack
@@MBsr5 sounds like a vaccine thing
People quit at blue belt because about midway into your blue belt... you can handle just about any regular untrained guy in a fight. Anything above mid-level blue belt is basically expert training.
Zeet that's exactly what one of my seminar instructors said. All you need is blue to be able to fuck up any normal person in a fight. Beyond that is just to fuck up other practitioners haha
yeah thats logical but a lot of people arent training to handle untrained guys too though
Zeet true, but i quit cause its expensive.
Yeah but these days, everyone trains BJJ
Do the moves above mid blue become just so super complex and hard that most people cannot retain them. I am white only and wondering.
People quit at blue belt because:
They know they are going to sit at blue for 4+ years.
They are being ignored by their instructor and don't know how to advance on their own.
They are tired of asking, "what am I doing wrong" and being told "you're doing fine".
They see how common sandbagging is and that to get a purple belt they will have to have the skill of a brown belt.
They see uneven standards being applied without explanation.
They see their instructors don't care about them as people.
They see that their instructor thinks loyalty is a one way street.
They are getting punished for having the nerve to ask about rank.
They are tired of losing in competitions to brown belts wearing blue belts.
They are sick of Instructors not caring when they are injured.
They are at a school where years go by an no one gets promoted.
They have an instructor who won't work with them financially and would rather have no money than a little less than full price.
They are tired of the politics.
They get injured and can't do half of the normal stuff anymore.
+owen c. Sadly, most people will bullshit you and tell you lies. BJJ is expensive so you really have to love it. Which Gracie place is near you?
private training will only go so far without being able to roll against a wide variety of individuals
+rusty schackleford That is very common IME. I have changed schools over this.
Spirit Splice I think you hit it on the button my friend. The first school I went to the instructor was only attentive to his higher belts. The lower ranks never got any better and the teacher was not receptive to questions unless it was from the good guys at the academy. Second school i visited the teacher was nice but there was too much politics involved. For the most part its about finding a teacher that knows where to draw the line, and a teacher that really wants to make everyone better by rolling with them, watching them roll and pointing out their mistakes. Never really had that until now.
Bullseye!
I watched this when I first started to BJJ and it really helped, now i'm about a year in and coming back watching this really hits home. RIP Professor Owen.
White belt for life.
I've been training in jiu-jitsu since 2002. The closest bjj black belt instructor to me is 2 1/2 hours away from me. makes it challenging working a full time job
Billy Harris you need to move brah. somewhere where people live.
I'm in Alaska and the closest is a 3 hour flight away
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White belt my excuse for tapping out when gassed 😂😂😂
Glad you made this video.. I've been training for a long while now (different system) But when I was ready to test several years ago, I wasn't allowed to test because I had just gotten pregnant.. I continued to train, but no contact & my OBGYN was also a martial artists, he monitored everything.. Finally I did test and time went on and later we planned another baby.. So life and injuries do happen that hold off testing but be safe & keep training, I have not given up.. Someone once told me don't worry about the belt, it just holds ur pants up.. I took that advice, stopped caring about my rank & just trained, I have become better for it... Enjoy your training, stop worrying about the color of your belt and have fun as Well.. I'm also glad that my husband and children train, even grandma.. It's a family of martial artists.. Thanks for the video..
haha love this video, that evil force doesn't stop trying to end my JiuJitsu. That force never goes away, Family, work, lack of progress, fatigue, insomnia, and worst of all injuries.
The only thing belts are good for is to hold your pants up
- Bruce Lee
Monk D , Bruce Lee didnt believe in belts. Bruce would put a bjj white belt in the hospital
+Monk D What makes you think anyone cluld "destroy Bruce Lee? He was a renowned martial artist.
The Gracies respected the shit out of Bruce Lee, who took the time to learn grappling when most strikers at that time arrogantly thought they didn't need to grapple. If he was still alive, he'd probably get into BJJ to supplement his other stuff since he was always trying to learn
how much flouride are you ingesting, you silly fuck.. Bruce would skull fuck and shit on the head of any BJJ blue/purple/ect his speed and ability to read an opponent are what made him so victorious
Papakap22 victorious? in what? movies? he never competed. we'll never know if his stuff really worked or if he could really fight at a high level.
I've been a blue for over 12 years--hopefully I'll get purple someday. Everything he is saying is true. I'm not giving up though. So far I've weathered injuries, marriage, kids, moves, etc, but still am hanging on. Hopefully this can encourage others.
Good. Never stop trying, man.
You must be a killer blue belt. I bet if you went to another club you would smash their blue's.
Murdoc Rutle
Thanks for the nice words. Actually, I can usually catch a black each training session, but almost always with leg/footlocks. Very few dominant positions on upper belts, which is maybe why I stay at blue...Thanks again.
tander101
Thanks. Will keep going until I can no longer!
ashikansetsu Just like the song "Till I Collapse" by Eminem. :)
Well i just got my blue belt on Saturday. After 1 and a half years of training. I still get supper hyped for bjj class haha so lets hope I keep going.
Philip Van den Berg How many hours a week on average?
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MrCloudseeker he quit I think LOL
Wya now
How's it going now?
Injuries become a factor for many. People get tired of having a sore back and joint discomfort. Walking around like they are an 80+ year old gets tiresome.
I quit BJJ as a one stripe white belt and didn't come back until 4 years later. I always regretted quitting. All the guys I started with are good purple belts...but I found a great teacher at the Rilion Gracie academy after moving states and he was invested in all the students from brand new white belts to higher belts. I'm proud to say after nearly a year of training there I got my blue belt last month. My first promotion mixed with having a great teacher motivates me to train more.
This brings back so many memories of when I was a Blue belt. The day I got my Purple belt in 2008 ,I was so happy. The Blue belt was something special now that I look back...
I think the issue is that it gets repetitive.
Here is every 80% of blue belt matches: one person pulls guard. Then they chill and try not to move. Either the person on top also chills or gets bored and countered. The rules work here (Japan) in such a way that you're rewarded for lying on the ground and hugging your opponent.
I think that its the same across the board .in martial arts a person has to have that desire to train .Its something that 1 out of 100 have .Thats the reality .If its not in you you wont stay.
Dude bjj is not repetitive :DD, you can make it not so, by switching it up and experimenting.
Looks like someone never learned the self-defense side of BJJ. You WANT to be hugging an opponent who is trying to punch your face in. The goal is to survive, not to pull guard and sink in a triangle or guillotine while someone is slamming you.
Fuck waiting years for belts. If proficiency is demonstrated and a student consistently outperforms his/her classmates and wins at competition against outsiders they should be advanced. Ultimately belt color winds up being trivial after years of training but it is a motivator that will keep a student on the path initially.
So if a high level competitor brown belt could beat a 67 year old 8th degree black belt he should be "advanced" to 8th degree black belt? Hmmmmmmmm.
espada9 It's all ceremony and how much money you can bring in after a few levels of black belt, I hope that statement does not come as a surprise. At 67 your focus is to pass on your knowledge and experience not executing at the level of twenty-somethings. Simplest way to judge advancement is to observe and once you are sufficiently impressed ask the student to teach the material to others.
espada9
Proficiency against classmates of the same rank, and winning competitions (note the plural) against outside opponents of the same rank is very different from a single win against a 67 year old.
If you truely love jiu jitsu, you shouldnt care about how long it takes to get a belt.
benji ben That depends on what belts signify. If they are to signify proficiency, I wouldn't blame someone for feeling like their work and dedication are not being recognized. If they are to show how long you have been around, then it doesn't really matter.
I guess the question Jiu Jitsu schools should ask is: "what does a belt mean?"
I like what this guy has to say. I just earned my blue belt and I'm mainly in it for the principles and practicing for the fun of it. Martial arts in general is my life!
the white belt curse is even worse
My goodness! This is so true. Without doubt, this was what happened to me back in 1999 when I was a blue belt in Karate. I quitted practicing for some reason. It's been 16 years today and no exercise, no workout, no rigorous physical activity like I used to do back then: lots of physical disorders and weaknesses in my 30's.
Tuesday will be my 4th Gracie jiu jitsu class, and luckily I couldn’t care less about belts. I know how to defend myself, growing up in Springfield, MA will do that for you. I just love jiu jitsu and can’t wait to keep learning.
Thank you for sharing inspiration like this.
Don't Quit Training , Keep That Goal Of Achieving In Mind Step By Step = BLACK BELT 🥋 🙏 📢 !
every time i stopped martial arts was because of finances. practiced various styles from age 15-26. then i gave up completely in order to fix my finances and my future. i still love martial arts. wish i could find some like minded people to train with for fun without signing up with a school.
RIP Mr Owen!!! Your advice is the best
i luv it! this professor is on the button
Sadly im one of those who had to quit at blue belt. A bunch of health issues and life got in the way. I keep telling myself I want to go back, hopfully I will one day. Great video.
I got my leather belt in like 45min.
+Micko BeeRocket hahaah
25min
The leather belt that is the one that hurts the most when you hit somebody with it . Leather is better and belts are stupid anyway . Its all about the money
JCP?
The only good thing out of this is that you can stay on for 45 minutes. Hurray for your wife.
Somethin that was instilled in me from a young age of martial arts. its not about the belt its about being there, participating, trying making an effort to improve.
really funny and friendly this guy seems. I would like to take classes with him.
Don't waste your time.
+Mr Bjj 101 how come?
SuicidalMattress bjj is amazing I'm currently a white belt but I plan to go for black
Thomas Francis Master Yoda?!?
Thanks very much for this video. Very useful.
why do people quit bjj? Because, like Boom Boom Mancini said "it breaks your body down." God bless these people who continue in bjj past their 40s. I don't know how they do it, except that they have a very high tolerance for the pain (not of taking class, but of recovery from class)
Truth 59 and still grinding!
We roll light, using technique over strength. I also prioritize conditioning over BJJ, only do BJJ twice a week. It's the way I should have been doing it all along.
im 37 and new to bjj and every week i have a small injury to nurse ahahaha and yep... recovery.
I am 42 and just started !!! I have done Muay Thai and KRav for many years but I love it , so far , despite being more complex than I could imagine and the class is only teaching white belt moves.
Why people worry about getting a belt ?? To me ju-jutsu is a journey ... and as a journy you should enjoy the ride and not to worry for the end ...im a white belt no stripes and i roll with two blue belts four stripes who kick my ass and dont matter cause i am learning in ju-jutsu there is no winning nor loosing there is learning ...
MetalThunderForce well said
Hi guys! I´ll talk about myself! I´m almost 40 years old now and i´m a lawyer. I always dream with black belt. 10 years ago i was reaching purple belt but i moved to another city and had to study every hours i could. Years later, after settle down, I really tryied to come back, but everytime i suffered an injury and had few time to spend in the gym. I also see some problems with the brazilians jiu jitsu schools. The masters always want to form a top team to compete, so that´s how they would be recognised. This team is formed with kids in the age about 20 years old. These kids don´t work and train hard every day. And the philosophy in the class is a totally rumble to simulate competition. Of course, people like me will get injuried. It´s just suicide to come back training hard BJJ with a competitor of 20 years old. I feel that each day i´m more distant to be able to come back. Even with an awesome stretching and warming up, nowadays i get injuryed even in weight trainning. Just getting worse, the audiences i make pull me away from the scars and strathches in my face...aging sucks!!
Aging don't suck, you are just in the wrong place.
Been training for a year consistently 2-3x a week. One stripe white belt.
It's kind of a nice feeling to be tapping out the 2 and 3 stripe white belts now. Don't really mind getting promoted slowly lol
Compete and win medals. You’re probably closer to blue than you think if what you say is true.
People quit at blue belt because a blue belt will beat 99% of people on the streets. It's almost as good as a black belt vs untrained opponents.
Many people want to be good enough to defend themselves, and a blue belt does that.
Christian Thames that's bullshit. If you quit at bluebelt you will be above average at sweeping and submitting. Sure you'll be able to wipe out a drunk in a fist fight... maybe. But what if you haven't been keeping up on your cardio. Sucking down greasy burgers and drinking Jack and cokes. You're not training because you quit. Those skills won't be sharp. Fast twitch muscles and muscle memory won't react properly at the moment of truth. You might as easily get trounced. All because you had learned all there is to learn about self defense at bluebelt... hmmm
@Christian Thames - - I agree. When you put in a few years of consistence training, are recognized as being decent at the art, and are comfortable with your skill level, it's easy to say, "time for an extended break."
@@kineticmc7743 u sound like you've never rolled with a blue belt
@@markmartin5364 i apologize for my crass attitude. I was obviously having a bad day when i posted that remark. Blue belt is the belt where you pick up multiple responsibilities. A responsibility not to make beginner mistakes. A responsibility for your physical fitness and motivation. A responsibility to bring the whitebelts along with you. Some cannot handle the pressure. And I have had my ass handed to me by many colored belts. And i love every second of it. Sorry for the rude post though. God bless. ❤
My instructor always said make the "moves" your own to make them stick. Willing to experiment no matter the outcome, patience, accept self and peer criticism is what makes a blue a purple, purple a brown and eventually a black. Make the moves personal to you with your own twists so you remember them instinctively then perfect them. The sooner you can "feel" Jiu Jitsu without having to think, the sooner you will enjoy it even more and progress. If anything, atleast stay until you can frustrate your instructor with your ability to escape,avoid their submissions and stay alive that's when the REAL fun begins. They will eventually get you of course, but when your instructor starts saying "hey you roll with me first, that you warmed him or her up for everyone else or that you need to focus on submissions for a month" your knocking at that door.
I never started Jiu Jitsu to get a belt. I trained in it to expand my knowledge of martial arts. Getting to a black belt level never appealed to me.
Most schools have no standard for the students to aim for. Students love structure and a set curriculum to work on.
A belt is a symbol of achievement. The thing is that if it takes you to long to get something that proves your effort then you become tired, and off course doing a martial art 10 or 15 years to get a black belt or even to achieve some kind of mastery its not something regular people can do, and thats because the comitment that is required to do so its very high for someone with family, career etc. History has proven that every martial art needed 10 years or more for someone to get a black belt when it was first established, but when more people started doing them black belts became easier to achieve.That said when someone pays to learn something its his right to need some proof of grade, and i think that thats something that needs consideration.
Only thing i like about the belt system and stripe system. Is that it makes me think everyday that i have/will progress throughout the time i put in.
Love the video's I really am seriously considering Mixed Martial Arts.
I know when you're really into something, it can be hard to imagine how others are not as interested as you are.
But people quit things all the time, for many reasons. Time, money, to explore other interests.
This is very true wrestling had a similar effect on me. Great sports! Start bjj back up Thursday excited!
People quit because too many instructors out there are not even black belts themselves and cannot really promote you to the higher ranks.
Whoever said a brown belt in BJJ is equivalent to a black belt in other martial arts has probably went to some McDojo.
This whole "minimum of 10 years before being a black belt" sounds ridiculous to me.
If you're good, you're good - no use waiting 6-7 years to become a purple belt or 10-15 years to become a black belt.
Judo is much more complex than most BJJ schools out there and it doesn't take 10 years to achieve a black belt if you're good.
Funny that you talk about evidence while you don't supply any yourself.
Just because you didn't hear of a school not run by a black belt doesn't mean it doesn't exist, nor thinking that BJJ that originates in Judo is more complex.
Some do quit because of money, but people lose interest when they don't advance - promotion, competition, whatever.
There's also a person's opinion, and mine contrasts yours - doesn't mean you're right in any of your statements.
A real BJJ black belt will take at least 10 years to complete, and that's training 5 days a week. Sure people have been promoted sooner, but that's really the exception. There is so much to learn, so many details, a lot of intricacies. You would know that if you trained.
Omega A my coach is a purple 4th stripe. Brilliant teacher under the guidance of royce gracie who visits every 4months along with other high level black belts. My coach won't promote anyone because he wants to leave it to royce but believe me when I say this the purple belt instructor I have produces better fighters than any of the other clubs around the local area.
That Pedro Sauer impression was so good
I am very happy I got my black belt in only 2 days. Thank you amazon!
Lol … it’s so true for me. I got my blue belt two weeks before the pandemic started and now I am out of the loop.
Loved the advice to help us achieve our goals. Hate the belt marketing thing though. When in History were Martial Arts a sole successful means of income (without tainting the values & practicality of the discipline)?
Man, I don't want to sound like a crybaby or like I'm making excuses, but I have always been interested and fascinated with different martial arts, including a new-found discovery and interest in BJJ (my next door neighbor, Andron Wright, is a blackbelt in BJJ). I started as a very basic beginner (but a good all-round athlete) taking Aikido and Kung Fu courses and was really excited about pursuing it and learning more. And then I developed a condition called cervical radiculopathy (aka cervical "pinched nerve") that is more painful, debilitating, and difficult to get rid of than anything I could have ever imagined and was just completely and summarily crippled and taken out of the game. I guess my point is that some may choose to quit or drop out and some may have that decision made for them. Stay strong, be humble but persistent, and try to avoid injuries. Much respect.
if he is as good as he is in inspirational speaches, hes a hell of a martial arts instructor! loved the video even if i am not affiliated with jiu-jitsu at all ;-)
VERY good video!!!!!!!
The curriculum in most schools is shaped for competition and that atmosphere creates a lot of alpha attitudes on top of this, life in general gets in the way. There has to be curriculum goal set in mind. One to learn Jiujitsu for self defense and two, the option to learn sports competition. This will create opportunities for students to stick around longer for their training purposes.
Exactly they make it more into a sport
I got my blue belt from Royce Gracie but had to stop due to constant back injuries, not being able to trust others not to injure me during rolling, people going all out to scalp me because I have a black belt in another (stand up style) , it started to feel like work.
Then go to another dojo and never mention this black belt. Say you come only for maintaining your health.
And here I am, just wanting to learn and develop my game. If someone gives me a different colored belt - cool, but its the learning that matters, how well I understand.
I quit at 2nd degree blue belt back in 2000. I'm 45 now, I just have way too many things going on. But sadly, it is a young man's sport. You become way to susceptible to injury if you try to compete at an older age so what's the point. To me, it's boring to train if I can't compete with 100% tenacity like I did in my younger years.
Sometimes a white belt will kick your ass because often they just come from no-gi to Gi and they've spent years doing no-gi. In other words always consider the background and context of the white belts and don't get pissed if they beat your ass.
CM Punk?
Guy Shepard collage wrestlers steps on the mat, throws on a white belt - your about to go for a ride lol
@basedvato LOL!! I experienced that back in 1999. A big guy in white belt approached me during a Saturday sparring class. This guy was strong, he was throwing me all over the mat while trying to strangle and smother me. After 10 minutes, he winded himself and the match ended with my knee on his chest (he was sideways though, his shoulders never touched the mat) and trying to sweep his arm lapel to gain mount. After he told me that he has been wrestling competitively for 8 years. I was a 2nd degree blue belt while he was wearing the white belt. I'm sure it looked strange to onlookers seeing a higher level getting overpowered and thrown around like that. But at least I didn't lose and was able to conserve energy.
@basedvato I know what you mean, wrestlers at that level have incredible take down skills.
Come on mate, you know full well if someone is throwing anyone about, its not bjj. Its back to that debate of sport bjj vs traditional bjj. All bjj works with very little effort. Anyone with more than ten minute training would have seen it for what it was.
People quit at blue belt cuz they can't afford the gyms or the academies anymore everyday they're becoming more expensive 150$ & prices similar to that so that's why people quit if you guys make them more affordable maybe more people will come or will continue
+Whiting1289 $150 a month is about average for BJJ. At my school you can get a 6-month contract with unlimited gym time and lessons for about $125.
***** I feel like I get my money's worth. When I boxed, had I paid for a package similar to the one at my BJJ school, it would have cost about the same.
Anyway, a lot of schools offer a free first lesson. Maybe you should try before you buy. I did, and I thought $125 a month was worth it.
+Whiting1289 yh 150$ a month & I know it's too much
+RubioNegroZaravia yh & that's the problem cz not everyone can afford it's too much they should do it a lot cheaper than $150 a month so more students can afford the classes & more people come to those classes
+Whiting1289
I would LOVE to see how anyone on this earth could pay the rent and utilities charging 40 dollars a month.
Iam a white belt and travel to brazil in a few days for train 3 week in a camp. Iam nerveous and full of anxious. Thxs god that I found that speech before I am leaving...
BECAUSE BJJ IS TOO DAMN EXPENSIVE!!!
lol at my comment this is 2 years ago..and today im in my room feeling sad i cannot go to jiujitsu with a 3rd degree brazilian blackbelt..because im too broke that if i sign up itd mean not eating lol..luckily i've gained enough experience over the years to become a decent grappler..and thats cool enough to keep..
@Kimura Blaze still training?
RIP coach Keith. 🇺🇸
True. My school had guys rolling for a few years and I come in and get killed. I got my blue and purple, then started training at many different schools and stopped testing. I still roll, just at different spots. I have been training for 12yrs now... and I still get tapped...
Probably the most common reason is that like all learning curves they are steep at first and then flatten out. I trained in BJJ for 3 years. I got my bluebelt in one year and then quit 2 years later due to a serious hand injury. But even aside from the injury I was feeling that I was on a plateau that just would not end. BJJ is difficult to learn, and the increasing level of subtleties after bluebelt increase the difficulty.
I had resolved to complete at least fifty classes but after four or five got pneumonia and didn't return, upon recovery went to a Systema class instead. My BJJ 'class' was all free style rolling, no drills or structured practice. I talked to guys who had trained there for one and a half years and NEVER were taught the 'self defense' methods and had NEVER done anything which did not start from on their knees. At least in the Systema class we dealt with people trying to punch you in the head.
That was really good....
This is why I think stripes are great idea..I know every says belts don’t matter..but when your year 2 into your blue belt and you get your second stripe it does give you a metal bump to get the third..and so on
Because some teachers don't advance their students after 5 years...
The students are not owed a belt after 5, or even 10 years. If they don't improve, that's on them
Pseudo Lain I'm a 27 time world champ and I've never had a student who wasn't a brown belt after 8 years.
Renato Laranja
Good for you, buddy. However I'm not sure how you expect me or anyone else to take that message when simply saying that has no support for you either being a good teacher or a bad one.
+Pseudo Lain your talking to renato larnaja bro take it easy he choked out eddie bravo you
+Pseudo Lain hahaha he destroy you
Spouse "some of you won't have to worry about that" Wow low blow lol.
I am new but was wondering why they don’t do stripes to show progression in the belt levels..or maybe a new belt between blue and purple..my kids bjj class had a gray belt and green belt to keep the kids mind set on pushing forward.
What people fail to realize is that a belt is not going to save you in a life or death situation. Rank does hold value and is supposed to be representative of your knowledge base for skills set. However, if you dont have the skills that will be there to protect you in a real life situation, the belt serves you no purpose and, in turn, defeats the purpose of studying the art.
Ginraboy but also people just don’t do bjj for that.. they do it cause pride
yes...that is why you have both: a) Skills and b) Representative belt.
I don’t want to earn the belt, I want to BE the belt. If I achieve that, it doesn’t matter where I go or what life changes happen.
I was 57 yrs old when I started...got hurt after a year...knee injury that doesn't seem to want to heal...i want to go back but its very tough at my age...any suggestions?
RIP Mr. Owen.
i lived abroad for a while after getting my blue belt and i couldnt train there. when i got home i just couldnt get going again. i'm in the throes of coming back though. i wanna get that purple :)
Anyone I've ever met rolling purple belt and up I was impressed with their humility and their maturity... blue belt level... much more hit and miss.
thats the one draw back about blue belts, they have the skills to be assholes to other blues and below but that humility and laid back attitude of higher belts hasnt sunk in yet. I was reading one post where they were talking about how all their brown and black belts were assholes and im like what sschool is this bc EVERY school ive visited those were the MOST friendly and helpful
I don't mind getting submitted constantly at all. It's all learning. Be humble and take the lessons. It's all good.
Some only want the self-defense techniques of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu which ends just before blue belt. Getting the blue belt is the end of the line for these people.
There's self-defense at all levels in Gracie Jiu-Jitsu. The most common are at white belt, but you move into other scenarios and weapon defenses at blue and higher.
Sensei, very good "plan English" explanation
He seems like a great instructor
How do you progress from each belt? What steps, requirements, etc.?
Understanding of the sport and just showing up and knowing you know Ju-Jitsu beating people who have a higher belt. Competing helps a lot too.
I am not a BJJ practitioner but I feel like training for it should be like training for other things in life. If you fail to be invested in your training and you quit then it is on you. If you get discouraged because you keep getting submitted and quit then you did not train properly. Ask questions. If you get submitted by a higher rank you should be asking how that person did it and what could you have done to prevent it or escape from it. If the person you are rolling with refuses to answer questions go ask your teacher. I do have some martial arts experience in Shotokan Karate and I never sparred with a higher rank that would not answer any questions I had. As I said, I am not a BJJ practitioner but it seems to be a very cerebral art that requires you to do more than just go to class and go through the motions.
I’ve never equated doing the dishes to going to BJJ class.
If I ever wasn’t feeling like going to class I don’t go. I go because of how fun it is and how it’s my escape.
This is the first time iv seen Keith Owens, great speaker and motivator, would be an awesome instructor. Iv been kickboxing for a while and have now gotten into BJJ, 3 stripes on my white, my goal is obviously a blue, but at 48yrs old, kickboxing is a little harder on your body, hopefully BJJ is something I can do without to many injuries...But I still feel id rather get punched in the face than have some BJJ guy on my chest and that HORRIBLE feeling of not being able to breathe! lol
I've been training at my gym for a year and a 2 and a 1/2 to 3 yearsPeople that came in 6 months ago And I'm already been moated over me the thing is is that I can Tap them More than they can get me I have a disability I know one handed fighter so I have had to adapt modify About 85% of class I felt like I was being looked over Because I don't compete in they do During my jujitsu journey I've been bouncing around to other gyms just trying to learn notifications developing my own style with other coaches help professors help They coach and regular to for all my modifications The other gym Here was promoting his other students last week and then he promoted me is last I graciously accepted because he believes I'm ready and so do I The problem arises when I brought it up to my main coach after About a week of turmoil I don't know exactly what to do One handed I learn modifications developing styles The respect I have for both coaches professors Because my in blue bill will not be recognized at the 1st gym
Not everyone has the time or money to go to an organized, scheduled training academy that forces its students to spend hours, days, weeks, months, and years going over the same tactics and strategies repeatedly. I completely agree that BJJ takes time and effort and patience, but if someone has the skill to submit a higher ranking practitioner then they should be promoted on the spot. True story: I spent almost 20 years competing at Greco Roman wrestling and decided to try Jiu Jitsu because I was a cop and wanted to learn new techniques. The first week of class, which was incredibly expensive, I submitted a brown belt who was very close to receiving his black belt. It wasn't because I knew more Jiu Jitsu, it was because of my wrestling background and because I knew one arm bar submission really well. I didn't get promoted and didn't expect to, my point is that BJJ should not be treated as an art that requires ranked belts. I was much more experienced at ground fighting and grappling than that brown belt and he knew it. He didn't get upset, he actually asked me to train with him and help him which I thought was very professional on his part. I didn't stay at that school long because it was too fucking expensive. Ive since continued my Jiu Jitsu education and training on my own for the past 12 years. I'm sure with my knowledge and experience that I would have been a black belt for many years by now but I chose to train outside a traditional school. Lots of people do.
Hell i have been in Judo for 5 years and I'm just green belt, for different reasons i can't go as much as i would like, but i hang there and i hope to get my blue belt in 2018 finally, and i have recently began jiu jitsu and I'm in love with it too, i guess i will be white belt for a looooooooong time
I'm A 1 Stripe Blue Belt & I Still Get The 💩 Shit Kicked Out Of Me , BUT I HAVE FUN AT IT = That's The 🔑 Key To Training 💭 😁 📢 !
I thought a lot about quitting. And honestly it's not about the belt. It's been over 4 years and I'm not even blue. It's the injuries. And the bruises everywhere. And being sore after hard training. The very slow improvement is a bit discouraging, but it's the injuries that mess with me. I've had knee surgery, should AC joint separation, both sides (3rd and 1st degree), a fractured rib, ... and lots of more minor things that took me off the mats 2-3 weeks each time... Sore neck, sore back, ... I've really only trained 2-ish years over these 4+ years ...
BJJ can demand a lot and for some people it doesn't offer much back.
I did it for 6 years, got my purple belt and quit. I just didn't enjoy it any more, and that was after trying a break, trying a few new gyms.
I'll tell you something though: I don't miss it.
nice video. i would never quit at this though only when im an old man
Our BJJ head instructor a few weeks ago said that you never stop learning, as Ron Balicki who has trained with Dan Inosanto for 30 years said all of a sudden Dan will do something he has never seen before and he will think where the hell did that come from to which he said you are an eternal student, I have often been told by many instructors once you get your Black your just starting my friends out there don't be so hard on yourselves it never ends which I think is a good thing, it keeps you hungry, but I think the belts keep you focused, never give up brothers.
I, personally, moved to a town without a bjj school. That hasn't stopped me learning online and from other resources though and working out to be more physically capable. I've rolled with some people on occasion since and performed better than I did before I moved so you can improve if you keep learning regardless of belts.
phoenixamaranth That's great brother keep training never give up.
Link for part 2?
I quit competing in sports when I realized that you can buy trophies! I have so many first place trophies on display .
I've met several people who have quit within the first year of receiving a blue belt. I hope that doesn't happen to me.
I'm a no gi grappler with about 5 years experience of no go bjj and submission wrestling for MMA. I've just recently started training in the Gi (finally). How long do you estimate it should take me to earn a BJJ blue belt? I'm training about 4 hours a week at the moment.
The rank itself isn't a big thing to me, but its a bit weird being on the mats in a white belt and basically mauling everyone at that level (and a good portion of the blue belts too).
Stephen Forbes Of course, I want to know when I can move onto real arts like yellow bamboo :P
aikighost It depends basically on your gym and your instructor. Maybe you're already a blue belt now.
aikighost Since u have 5 years of experience, the teacher should instantly reward you a blue belt. It would be stupid to keep you with the white belts. But that's the thing, it all depends on the academy/teacher.
The blue belts tells that you recognize moves and positions. You see small patterns and you understand the basics.
Since you can keep up with most of the blue belts, that's definitely where u should be. But rather on focusing on the belt, focus on becoming better no matter what. Make challenges for yourself when you roll with someone not so experienced. Use only one arm, only do armbars and/or give them mount and work from there etc. Give yourself a handicap. Then you'll learn no matter what. Teaching others improved my learning, because you need to know your shit, mostly when they start to ask stuff.
Imo the best ones to roll with are the total fresh white belts, specially the one who jumps around alot. You'll never know what they'll do. And I learned much about controlling my opponent doing this, specially the heavy guys, because my technique needs to be on point if im going to hit the sweep etc. Rolling with the more experienced ones are more about timing and combinations.
Ola Nordmann Cheers. Nah he wont give me blue till I've got more experience in the gi and also till his black belt instructor has seen me a few times. But yes I try to roll with everyone from noob white belts right through to the instructor himself. Anyway its all fun and Im enjoying myself a lot regardless of what belt I wear :)
aikighost Yeah, that's the way to go.
Ok so I have a question. I just started BJJ and I was wondering if you have to go to competitions and stuff like that. Like do all BJJ academy’s require it or do only some require it?
Keith from clean finish podcast?
Man, I wish this guy was my teacher.