My dad is an engineer that worked with plasma lasers for a good part of his career. Plus he keeps telling me don't worry about landfills, they'll be mined in the future. This is those two ideas combined. I've been casually researching plasma waste gasification for years and don't see why it isn't catching on.
tech has been around for decades. a guy built a decent sized one in early 90's. totally sealed, spectrometer, etc... introduced it to congress in america when first bush was in office. never got traction. he introduced it to canada, i think ontario if i remember correctly, and canada was supposed to have started developing/incorporating the technology. never heard any more on it 'til recently. we need a big push for this globally. glad this guy is talking about it.
Just watched this, more than 5 years later. So where are we now with plasma? Also, if we use the product in roads, then what happens to the material once that road is repaved? Is it able to be recycled as well?
so plasma waist desposal is more costly but as mentioned there is a by product wich can be used for roads and construction what does that then deliver in terms of money , why not charge some for this by product . this surely must grow bigger for it is so much better then what we are doing now .
Don't produce so much waist if you cannot clean-up after your self earth doesn't need humans will continue to be here long after we are gone. I stand after this plasma gassification solution no matter the cost.
Great learning material for Waste Management. Illuminating and educational.. Thank you, @Tom Whitton Over the years, fast forward to the present of 2022, how's plasma technology has improved and used in waste management?
its being done, but i dont think it will be used on a large scale until an energy solution is reached first. like what exactly is generating the power for the plasma torch?
Capitalize from this, make gasifier generator units that recirculate exhaust gases from the engines to the gasifiers and then see how long generators last on this, finally recycle all the possible usable minerals from the leftover slag made by the process. Also consider adding some form of atmospheric electricity collector to power the plasma arc in the gasifiers or something that can collect energy day and night that's renewable. Make a business out of it, it could create jobs which would lead to stimulating economic growth and cheapen electrical power while eliminating a global warming threat all in one without involving the cap and trade bullshit os subsidies.
Nice idea, however, slight problem plasma emits gasses can you be sure that different materials being ripped apart and superheated wont emit gasses that are harmful? Also, this is just an illusion of choice first you talk about how it's more expensive then you beg the audience to force your government to force everyone else to accept your way. Why don't YOU create a business a successful business that demonstrates what you propose then others would follow but forcing others to follow is a sure fire way for people to rebel.
ianthespaceguy It makes syn gas which is elemental gases that can be sorted by a cyclotron. The plasma breaks chemical bonds so only separate elements are left over, no toxic molecules since they require chemical bonding.
Hi, I read a lot about plasma gasification process, watch the videos but I can’t find a single serious company offering this solution on a smaller scale, so 20-25 tpd. Can you recommend a provider to me? Thanks!
You only figured the costs, now subtract the results,, like that road building slag. Or the metal removed from the Plasma hopper, or of the electricity used to run the plasma hop-per, how much of the leftover electricity, is paid to the Plasma waste recovery company.
waist taxation pays for your consumable's and you win not having an landfill which you will have to clean-up eventually also you get 30% exces energy to sell back to the grid(syn-gas),an glas like building material and metal. I think it will pay for it self on the long run.
@@distributosranang5393 even if it does not, it is better than the long term costs of landfills. Imagine all the real estate that can be done for commercial development instead of landfills?
I'm confused... you build the plasma processing plant with either tax dollars or heavy tax subsidies... and then you can use the plant over and over to process tons and tons of waste. The process can produce a large amount of the energy it consumes. The process produces materials that can be sold to refineries to make raw materials to sell back in the economy. But, it still costs more than 2x as much as burying it in the ground?
We have no landfills in Holland. From my house in Amsterdam I can see the household incineration installation with its white plumes of water damp. When it was built some 15 years ago it was the biggest in the world. It provides the energy for all electric tramways in the city and more. Plastic is filtered before the furnace, metals are recovered after the furnace. It is no plasma heat, but only a few hundred degrees Celsius and it is quite efficient. We have an even more modern system like that in Rotterdam since five years.
The cost to launch megatonnage into space is ginormous{have you checked how much it would cost you to be a space tourist and I am pretty sure you do not weigh more than 200kg?} not to mention that it will soon endanger even the GPS satellites and then how will you find your way home? Plus rocket exhausts inject tons of dangerous chemical exhausts directly into all layers of the atmosphere. On the plus side the layer of garbage will shield the earth so that Anthropogenic Global Warming will end up as Anthropogenic Global Cooling. The bonus is that Aliens will no longer want to visit us and damage our crops and mutilate our cattle.
If it were so, why didn't the ISS just expel their garbage into space instead of loading it into the space shuttle{and now the Russian supply capsules} to be brought back to earth? The cost to launch megatonnage into space is ginormous{have you checked how much it would cost you to be a space tourist and I am pretty sure you do not weigh more than 200kg?} not to mention that it will soon endanger even the GPS satellites and then how will you find your way home? Plus rocket exhausts inject tons of dangerous chemical exhausts directly into all layers of the atmosphere. On the plus side the layer of garbage will shield the earth so that Anthropogenic Global Warming will end up as Anthropogenic Global Cooling. The bonus is that Aliens will no longer want to visit us and damage our crops and mutilate our cattle.
Recycling does not work we consume faster than we recycle. We need to change our life habits, eat what is in season, eat local and most overall grow your own food and recycle kitchen waste into your garden. Buy cloths that are organic and not artificial products like plastics. container for food or drinking; need to be long lasting stainless steel or glass. hopefully were you live is walking distance to the store or use your bike. We need to reduce the strain that we are causing on the eco system.
Maybe you need to practice your Attention and Research skills, ia very difficult to expose that amount of information in such a short amount of time, it's ted talk, not a Scientist convention.
Too much information on the idea. Little is shed about the cost involved to set up the entire plant. How much power will be needed to give life to the entire process?
This doesn´t solve the problem. It just gives a thing to do with all the materias we dump everywhere. But how will you collect it dude, how will you educate people to properly dispose it after use?. Most inportantly how is it that you are not doing that already with or without your "new" plasma technology?
In Holland, where I live, and in France, where I worked, there is a huge factory to split paper, glass, metals, plastic, green. In short: it is more in Mora automated, green dead to basic particles and then with light sensitive sensors and puff blowers all selected. At the end you have one container full of iron, a second with alum, 3 copper, 4 white glass, 5 colored glass, 6 recyclable plastics, 7 unrecyclable plastics, 8 wood, 9 green to compost and make Methane gas for energy.
I wanted to make an intelligent comment here, but the truth is that no one really cares about my opinions. But, what a heck, I still made this simple little comment here, and I want to remind everyone, that I might delate this at any time without further notice. So read it while you still have a chance!
Speaker is either nervous or fresh at public speaking. This would be a snoozefest if not for the interesting subject matter. He sounds like he's reading off an essay written by someone else.
My dad is an engineer that worked with plasma lasers for a good part of his career. Plus he keeps telling me don't worry about landfills, they'll be mined in the future. This is those two ideas combined. I've been casually researching plasma waste gasification for years and don't see why it isn't catching on.
I believe no one is seriousy working on it.
Possibly not profitable.
@@vishnuprasadreddyeng They are. Pyrogenesis on US Aircraft carriers for quite some time. Plus a bundle of other plasma based innovations.
Iowa state uni does the latest R&D but we need private individuals to do it with financial incentives to get it to take off
@GurpreetSingh-fw8wh Has your opinion changed on Pyrogenesis? This plasma technology seems quite interesting.
tech has been around for decades. a guy built a decent sized one in early 90's. totally sealed, spectrometer, etc... introduced it to congress in america when first bush was in office. never got traction. he introduced it to canada, i think ontario if i remember correctly, and canada was supposed to have started developing/incorporating the technology. never heard any more on it 'til recently. we need a big push for this globally. glad this guy is talking about it.
why isnt this video more popular?
It`s time to shout of loud all around the world. Need to show it on TV enstead of advertasing every hour.
Not exciting title and no click bait. Gotta use the same marketing tactics as selling lies as selling truths, otherwise they go unnoticed
Just watched this, more than 5 years later. So where are we now with plasma?
Also, if we use the product in roads, then what happens to the material once that road is repaved? Is it able to be recycled as well?
I would say throw it back into the plasma and start all over again..
What a weird coincidence I was just pondering waste burning with plasmas and up pops a video that is about exactly that...
Canadian company named PyroGenesis is doing this now. PYR.V on stock market
just invested in them for the long term following Cathie Wood and my interest in ethical renewable energy
Excellent presentation...Thank you so very much
so plasma waist desposal is more costly but as mentioned there is a by product wich can be used for roads and construction what does that then deliver in terms of money , why not charge some for this by product . this surely must grow bigger for it is so much better then what we are doing now .
Money is the reason why man will court extinction, more than any other reason.
Money and attachment to habit...
Plasma can make recycling OBSOLETE and INSANE!
Great idea!!!
It is, but it's some way off being commercially viable at the moment, we have a better solution, coming to the UK in 2019 and taken worldwide by 2025.
how costly is it to create plasma per cubic meter of waste on average ?
just amazing technology to be used
This video made me discover Pyrogenesis Canada
Plasco Energy Group Inc!
Very excellent presentation
Don't produce so much waist if you cannot clean-up after your self earth doesn't need humans will continue to be here long after we are gone.
I stand after this plasma gassification solution no matter the cost.
what if the cost is chopping off a body part?
NIMBY people don`t want plasma plants in their back yard? Would they rather have a landfill there?
Great learning material for Waste Management. Illuminating and educational.. Thank you, @Tom Whitton
Over the years, fast forward to the present of 2022, how's plasma technology has improved and used in waste management?
He does not talk much about the cost of running a plasma incinerator - which is why it is not being done
its being done, but i dont think it will be used on a large scale until an energy solution is reached first. like what exactly is generating the power for the plasma torch?
its generates energy for itself through syngas with a 30% surplus witch can be sold back to the grid
Capitalize from this, make gasifier generator units that recirculate exhaust gases from the engines to the gasifiers and then see how long generators last on this, finally recycle all the possible usable minerals from the leftover slag made by the process.
Also consider adding some form of atmospheric electricity collector to power the plasma arc in the gasifiers or something that can collect energy day and night that's renewable.
Make a business out of it, it could create jobs which would lead to stimulating economic growth and cheapen electrical power while eliminating a global warming threat all in one without involving the cap and trade bullshit os subsidies.
Pyrogenesis in Montreal is already doing it....been designing them for more than a decade now.
@@Crispy2012A And japan too since the early 2000s in Utashinai.
@@Crispy2012A They ain't doing that here in Corporate Semi-Soycialist Murica....
Wow: you just invented the flux capacitor !
Plasma to the Future
Plasma is the resolution plasma will conquer plasma will prosper plasma will renew earth soil, green plant hills and organic materials.
Why aren't we doing this?
WHY
UNKNOWN UPFRONT COST OF THE INDUSTRIAL SCALE PLASMA WASTE TREATMENT PLANTS YET TO BE DEVELOPED
Nice idea, however, slight problem plasma emits gasses can you be sure that different materials being ripped apart and superheated wont emit gasses that are harmful?
Also, this is just an illusion of choice first you talk about how it's more expensive then you beg the audience to force your government to force everyone else to accept your way.
Why don't YOU create a business a successful business that demonstrates what you propose then others would follow but forcing others to follow is a sure fire way for people to rebel.
ummm look at Tees Valley in England using a similar system , Alter NRG
www.alternrg.com/waste_to_energy/projects/
ianthespaceguy It makes syn gas which is elemental gases that can be sorted by a cyclotron. The plasma breaks chemical bonds so only separate elements are left over, no toxic molecules since they require chemical bonding.
This needs to be a billionaires side business.
Also if you think about this, it would throw EPA on its ass at the same time because of how clean it is in both theory AND practice.
If plasma is so potent in destroying our waste it means is the key to a green future. Then why dont you destroy nuclear waste with plasma?
the technology to solve most problems already exists
solutions have always brought more problems
Startech is the pioneer of this technology, and have been listed in small caps since before 2002
Dr. Variations hashmi
Pyrogenesis Canada!
Shepperton eco park, UK. Read about that saga.
Oh, the barriers.
Didnt see that.☹️
5:59
interesting
Hi, I read a lot about plasma gasification process, watch the videos but I can’t find a single serious company offering this solution on a smaller scale, so 20-25 tpd. Can you recommend a provider to me? Thanks!
looking for the small. would love to start small scale
You only figured the costs, now subtract the results,, like that road building slag. Or the metal removed from the Plasma hopper, or of the electricity used to run the plasma hop-per, how much of the leftover electricity, is paid to the Plasma waste recovery company.
waist taxation pays for your consumable's and you win not having an landfill which you will have to clean-up eventually also you get 30% exces energy to sell back to the grid(syn-gas),an glas like building material and metal.
I think it will pay for it self on the long run.
@@distributosranang5393 even if it does not, it is better than the long term costs of landfills. Imagine all the real estate that can be done for commercial development instead of landfills?
I'm confused... you build the plasma processing plant with either tax dollars or heavy tax subsidies... and then you can use the plant over and over to process tons and tons of waste. The process can produce a large amount of the energy it consumes. The process produces materials that can be sold to refineries to make raw materials to sell back in the economy. But, it still costs more than 2x as much as burying it in the ground?
We have no landfills in Holland. From my house in Amsterdam I can see the household incineration installation with its white plumes of water damp. When it was built some 15 years ago it was the biggest in the world. It provides the energy for all electric tramways in the city and more. Plastic is filtered before the furnace, metals are recovered after the furnace. It is no plasma heat, but only a few hundred degrees Celsius and it is quite efficient. We have an even more modern system like that in Rotterdam since five years.
The moon is best to mine minerals. A boost to space industry😂
"What am i talkin a boot?"
Hoosehold waste.
So in other words, we can go ahead and throw a toaster into the bathtub?
It is an old idea of mine: why not dump our garbage into an active volcano?
wow!!! I never thought of that.
But it is difficult to find active volcanoes
Hawaii? Indonesia?
Or put it on a rocket and dump it in space
The cost to launch megatonnage into space is ginormous{have you checked how much it would cost you to be a space tourist and I am pretty sure you do not weigh more than 200kg?} not to mention that it will soon endanger even the GPS satellites and then how will you find your way home? Plus rocket exhausts inject tons of dangerous chemical exhausts directly into all layers of the atmosphere. On the plus side the layer of garbage will shield the earth so that Anthropogenic Global Warming will end up as Anthropogenic Global Cooling. The bonus is that Aliens will no longer want to visit us and damage our crops and mutilate our cattle.
If it were so, why didn't the ISS just expel their garbage into space instead of loading it into the space shuttle{and now the Russian supply capsules} to be brought back to earth?
The cost to launch megatonnage into space is ginormous{have you checked how much it would cost you to be a space tourist and I am pretty sure you do not weigh more than 200kg?} not to mention that it will soon endanger even the GPS satellites and then how will you find your way home? Plus rocket exhausts inject tons of dangerous chemical exhausts directly into all layers of the atmosphere. On the plus side the layer of garbage will shield the earth so that Anthropogenic Global Warming will end up as Anthropogenic Global Cooling. The bonus is that Aliens will no longer want to visit us and damage our crops and mutilate our cattle.
Recycling does not work we consume faster than we recycle. We need to change our life habits, eat what is in season, eat local and most overall grow your own food and recycle kitchen waste into your garden. Buy cloths that are organic and not artificial products like plastics. container for food or drinking; need to be long lasting stainless steel or glass. hopefully were you live is walking distance to the store or use your bike. We need to reduce the strain that we are causing on the eco system.
not getting to the point. needs major editing for brevity
Maybe you need to practice your Attention and Research skills, ia very difficult to expose that amount of information in such a short amount of time, it's ted talk, not a Scientist convention.
What about clean incineration?
A tree can transform matter and assemble atoms without heat or pressure. Should be much easier than mimic a whole star.
eXtremeDR wot
Go do it then, genius
Look up SAFIRE project
He forgot gel , so there are 5 for now.
"plasma"
Too much information on the idea. Little is shed about the cost involved to set up the entire plant. How much power will be needed to give life to the entire process?
Just put a plant in Beverly Hills.
We dont recycle we ship it to 3rd world countries to deal with.
i'm fracs
This doesn´t solve the problem. It just gives a thing to do with all the materias we dump everywhere. But how will you collect it dude, how will you educate people to properly dispose it after use?. Most inportantly how is it that you are not doing that already with or without your "new" plasma technology?
In Holland, where I live, and in France, where I worked, there is a huge factory to split paper, glass, metals, plastic, green. In short: it is more in Mora automated, green dead to basic particles and then with light sensitive sensors and puff blowers all selected. At the end you have one container full of iron, a second with alum, 3 copper, 4 white glass, 5 colored glass, 6 recyclable plastics, 7 unrecyclable plastics, 8 wood, 9 green to compost and make Methane gas for energy.
'Not in my backyard'?? better a processing plant than a landfill, in any location it is. I don't see this as a reason.
I wanted to make an intelligent comment here, but the truth is that no one really cares about my opinions. But, what a heck, I still made this simple little comment here, and I want to remind everyone, that I might delate this at any time without further notice. So read it while you still have a chance!
go on and 'delate' it pls
These speeches are 40 years late landfills have Come along way since then they are much safer than what they’re saying they are
Just very expensive way to burn waste to produce green house gas.
Watching well I drink my big gulp and down some nachoess
Speaker is either nervous or fresh at public speaking. This would be a snoozefest if not for the interesting subject matter. He sounds like he's reading off an essay written by someone else.
Really important information. Really boring speaker. Boo...!