Absolutely. He didn't introduce the literary dimension to rock n' roll though, Dylan did. And there are others who've done great work in that area-- Lou Reed, Mark E Smith, Van Morrison, Shane Macgowen, Robert Wyatt, Neil Young, Joni Mitchell, David Bowie, Bryan Ferry, Morrissey etc. Cave certainly carried on the tradition and introduced a very unique, organic sound and vocabulary to rock n roll through Birthday Party and the Bad seeds, as well as that unmistakable 'Nick Cave' delivery, playing the role rather naturally and giving us several moments of sheer brilliance and intensity.
As an Aussie who at one stage lived overseas for some years, I can tell you there is no way you can keep as pure an Aussie accent as Nick has without spending a good amount of time in Australia and/or listening to alot of Aussie media. There is no way around it.
Valiant like a salmon that swims against the tide, this CAVE occupies a very special NICK, there are very few writers, musicians, performers like him in the modern world.
MTV is wrong about a lot but Nick is not really a good songwriter. I can't find but a few decent songs. Actually I have no great songs. I like unique music, I like outsiders, I know Nick is an intellectual with good ideas but lousy melodies.
Blixa Bargeld .... Nick Cave ... What could be my life without those two geniuses ? Boring, certainly boring ! I am a great fan of The Birthday Party since day one, back in time, when I was a young punk. Time flies.
I adore him....he protects the fragile muse, refuses to subject her to tumbling heads and glittering awards. Now that is integrity and a good bet that his muse--NOT a horse--will continue to inspire greatness from Nick Cave!
DeeDee Burnett He must’ve lifted that horse idea off of Bela Bartok who famously said “Competitions should be for horses, not musicians.” Saying this for attribution, not to troll, as I love Cave’s brilliance.
@@darcyperkins7041 It’s not to say Nick is being unoriginal, he’s fond of quoting and well read in his appreciation for literature. Ultimately it matter not a whit & I just wanted to show that it’s been said by another musician.
Good God. For one thing, I was expecting something way meaner, crass and more in line with his song "Scum" in which he viciously excoriated some critic who offended him. Secondly, "one stoned evening" he wrote a letter more poetic and endearing than anything I have ever written in my life. Nick Cave never ceases to impress me.
I honestly don’t believe he has a mean bone in his body. He exudes confidence and always responds intelligently to unintelligent conversation. The man’s very relaxed.
This is great. One very stoned evening, that's hilarious. This is also why I think if he was ever nominated into the rock and roll hall of fame he'd turn it down. MTV should have played his previous albums way before Murder Ballads.That is a fantastic album and so are all of previous ones. I've listened to him since I was about twelve years of age and have never stopped . Have seen him live twice and will again he's fantastic live.
Where are the men like that today? Nick The Man! Sincere and true to himself and human nature. He put the reason Mtv went to rubbish right here, in this letter. Fake will always vanish. Nick>>Mtv
A fascinating man and a haunting writer and performer. His art has grown and grown since The Birthday Party and is occasionally beyond sublime. However, this public reading of a letter reminds me a lot of the passage in Seven Pillars of Wisdom when TE Lawrence can't quite say often enough or loudly enough how the Army wanted to give him a gallantry award but that he was quite against such baubles... If you don't buy into it, don't stand in front of a microphone and tell people how clever/sound/noble you are not to buy into it. It starts to sound like buying into a different bit of it... and just as hungrily. For all that, this man and his music across the years inhabit many of my playlists. Quite a writer. Quite an entertainer.
There was too much growth in the money machine and everybody learning his whole showable mooves depend on the money in arts. There should be a precise kind of price pin in the way:what will it take to stretch world into kollaps, on anything.smile, laughter, mooves, teardrops, - how much is it for real.The footstep idea.I love the man that has the lowest sale- footstep on his shoulder.Do I?
The difference between Nick Cave's appearance and Jarvis Cocker, is night and day. Have a word with Nick, Jarvis he may give you the name of his tailor.
"Nick Cave like a boss" I should make a t-shirt like that. This man is a Real Man. I have to say "KylieMinogue" in one word is my favorite word. It is not a joke.
I love love love Nick Cave, but I think in this letter he was just projecting onto MTV the huge anger he felt against himself. I mean, it was him who accepted to make a song with Kily Minoge and get into that side of the musical industry.
It's probably right to be so cynical of the success of a collaboration with Kylie Minogue. Mind you, he missed an opportunity to expose the average pop music listener to a broader vocabulary.
TO begin with first my greetings (only for my "good kind Savoir Vivre manners")) from Athens!!! Seriously now as a multi -artist creator from my birth and third generation of AUTHENTIC genius unique always beloved MULTIARTISTS CREATORS myself I can so easily make that pretty clear to you with no offense just I answering sincerely to cover your ignorance on this specific theme you fou fou to make your nasty useless comment and it is as simple as it gets: the making of a video clip/ music video especially in the way Nick cave is filming them among others as well are also a way of creating one more artistic way of expression and can be as deep profound and of the best finest artistic quality the same that one can find in contemporary videoart and one can sw see in exhibitions in Modern Arts Museeums worldwide a music videos are not creayed to be played in stupid mainstream tv channels such s MTV if you are a real true genuine authentic artist and very clearly you accompany your music with a visual perspective to it as well!!!!BASIC LESSON ON HISTORY OF ARTS AND MUSIC INDEED!!!I think that answered your meaningless unrealistic question/comment! GREETINGS FROM ATHENS! ATHENIAN STREETDOG FLORA:)
PS: MY SPELLING MISTAKES ARE JUST BECAUSE I AM WORKING AT THE MOMENT AND CO-CREATING IIN FOUR DIFFERENT LANGUAGES AND THEY ARE JUST A FUNNY WAY HOW THE HAND CAN ACTUALLY BE FAR FASTER THAN ANY KIND OF STUPID SLOW INTERNETIC COLD WRITING!!!AND NO I AM NOT SHOUTING BUT I AM INDEED LAUGHING WHILE READING IT ON MY SMALL COFFE QND CIGARETTE BREAK BECAUSE I RECOGNISE WELL THREE DIFFERENT ALPHABETS WITHIN IT EITHER WAY SORRY FOR MY ORTHOGRAPHICAL MISTAKES(?!) BUT STILL SOMEONE WHO WANTS CAN SO EASILY UNDERSTAND MY ANSWER ABOVE!!!MY HONEST TRUE GREETING AND HELLOS TO ALL OF YOU OUT THERE WORLDIDE FROM ATHENS!!!ENJOY LIVING ENJOY CREATING ENJOY LOVING AND LAUGHING ALWAYS !!!!🙂! ATHENIAN STREETDOG FLORA:)
I remember those days, that video with Kylie was on MTV 24/7, I fucking hated that song/video, shitty song and cheesy video, ugh, kept me from enjoying the good Cave music for the years to come, it scared me away. Started paying attention to Nick again with Grinderman. Latest Bad Seeds albums are amazing, suddenly I was back, listening to the good stuff he has created and going to Cave concerts. Fuck MTV.
personally i would of rather a person like him receive a fragment of recognition over someone like George Michael. the people that applaud him here are the same people who are appalled when others are not familiar with his work.
It's about how Nick feels, not you, and making unsubstantiated opinions regarding his fans is just ignorant, as is writing would of rather than would've.
it is possible to respect both artists, it is not a competition. mr cave could deliver and destroy us all with his version of 'praying for time'. and mr michael would of could have lamented the sweetest version of 'shivers' music is not a competition, it is an adventure.
Commento che poteva e doveva sicuramente evitare, quello su George Michael.. completamente inopportuno. Poco elegante. George, come sempre, da grande uomo che era, lo ha ignorato. A questo punto, credo x manifesta superiorità, in quanto migliore di lui sotto ogni punto di vista.
What a gem this guy is - love him more and more, and I barely ever listen to his music. Just a great example of someone who seems to "get it."
"I am in competition with no-one" - a motto for us all.
Nick is a Musical Genius who doesn't need MTV recognition
Absolutely true... A unique talent....
Who accept a Price gives up a part of his soul !
the first step to corruption....
Don't mess with King Ink
couldn't of hurt....
@@malegrissusran8847 Nick is mediocre . No denying his talent but it's talent that bores.
Nick's contribution to 'rock n roll' is paramount. He, Bargeld, Rollins and Thirlwell introduced a literary dimension that far surpasses their peers.
Absolutely. He didn't introduce the literary dimension to rock n' roll though, Dylan did. And there are others who've done great work in that area-- Lou Reed, Mark E Smith, Van Morrison, Shane Macgowen, Robert Wyatt, Neil Young, Joni Mitchell, David Bowie, Bryan Ferry, Morrissey etc.
Cave certainly carried on the tradition and introduced a very unique, organic sound and vocabulary to rock n roll through Birthday Party and the Bad seeds, as well as that unmistakable 'Nick Cave' delivery, playing the role rather naturally and giving us several moments of sheer brilliance and intensity.
@@ralphczukay1390 Nick is not as good without Blixa , Thomas Wydler and Mick Harvey. Mick is a great writer too.
@@ralphczukay1390Leonard Cohen?
I love how after all these years, he still has his Australian accent.
As an Aussie who at one stage lived overseas for some years, I can tell you there is no way you can keep as pure an Aussie accent as Nick has without spending a good amount of time in Australia and/or listening to alot of Aussie media. There is no way around it.
He DOES spend a lot of time with fellow Aussie musicians like Warren Ellis, so that makes sense.
Valiant like a salmon that swims against the tide, this CAVE occupies a very special NICK, there are very few writers, musicians, performers like him in the modern world.
Sublime. A real artist. My respects.
God bless. I love him so much. So intelligently brilliant.
MTV is wrong about a lot but Nick is not really a good songwriter. I can't find but a few decent songs. Actually I have no great songs. I like unique music, I like outsiders, I know Nick is an intellectual with good ideas but lousy melodies.
@@oppothumbs1 ridiculous
Well depends on your god. If your god is shit man please do not bless Nick. The blessing is raining poop soup
a nick and george duet is another possible beauty stolen from us by death.
There's only ONE Nick! No-one can compete! 🖤
The world needs more men like you. Well done!
I’m in competition with no one!!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I think I saw him smile! Love him, and I hope he lives forever.
I love him even more now, such integrity and brilliant way to explain things
Blixa Bargeld .... Nick Cave ... What could be my life without those two geniuses ? Boring, certainly boring ! I am a great fan of The Birthday Party since day one, back in time, when I was a young punk. Time flies.
I adore him....he protects the fragile muse, refuses to subject her to tumbling heads and glittering awards. Now that is integrity and a good bet that his muse--NOT a horse--will continue to inspire greatness from Nick Cave!
DeeDee Burnett He must’ve lifted that horse idea off of Bela Bartok who famously said “Competitions should be for horses, not musicians.” Saying this for attribution, not to troll, as I love Cave’s brilliance.
@@darcyperkins7041 It’s not to say Nick is being unoriginal, he’s fond of quoting and well read in his appreciation for literature. Ultimately it matter not a whit & I just wanted to show that it’s been said by another musician.
Bless this man
What a great and elegant Man!
I'd love to see what he writes to the pizza delivery man when they throw in a complimentary pepsi.
Bless this man!!!!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️
HRVATSKA JE U FINALU!!
He is eternal.
Good God. For one thing, I was expecting something way meaner, crass and more in line with his song "Scum" in which he viciously excoriated some critic who offended him. Secondly, "one stoned evening" he wrote a letter more poetic and endearing than anything I have ever written in my life. Nick Cave never ceases to impress me.
'hey four eyes ...'
I honestly don’t believe he has a mean bone in his body. He exudes confidence and always responds intelligently to unintelligent conversation. The man’s very relaxed.
True integrity. Bravo, Sir.
Genius that’s what he his .. nick’s music is just so organic
This is why he is the best....always and forever !
What a class act this guy is. Thanks to Cave I can no longer listen to all the rock music I used to listen to.
I love him so much for saying this.
The best.. Forever... Genius artist
This is great. One very stoned evening, that's hilarious. This is also why I think if he was ever nominated into the rock and roll hall of fame he'd turn it down. MTV should have played his previous albums way before Murder Ballads.That is a fantastic album and so are all of previous ones. I've listened to him since I was about twelve years of age and have never stopped . Have seen him live twice and will again he's fantastic live.
I think he says sterned, does he say stoned? I cant be sure.
@@Bloodstop he says stoned
I love that man
"And on one very stoned evening" had me DEAD
Where are the men like that today? Nick The Man! Sincere and true to himself and human nature. He put the reason Mtv went to rubbish right here, in this letter. Fake will always vanish. Nick>>Mtv
Glad I watched that.
thats the answer for all awards shows
Heart changing words - I love you
Perfect
Perfection
Perfect.
I love it. Well said mr cave well said👍🏽
Nick is a true artist
What a man 👏👏👏
Integrity.
He's great
A fascinating man and a haunting writer and performer.
His art has grown and grown since The Birthday Party and is occasionally beyond sublime.
However, this public reading of a letter reminds me a lot of the passage in Seven Pillars of Wisdom when TE Lawrence can't quite say often enough or loudly enough how the Army wanted to give him a gallantry award but that he was quite against such baubles...
If you don't buy into it, don't stand in front of a microphone and tell people how clever/sound/noble you are not to buy into it.
It starts to sound like buying into a different bit of it... and just as hungrily.
For all that, this man and his music across the years inhabit many of my playlists. Quite a writer. Quite an entertainer.
Brilliant.
Legenda!
gold.
Well done. We are all tempted to grab the gloss.
And he has done...ever since
Fuckin love him such a cool guy
❤️🔥❤️
Nick Cave, Warren Ellis and the Bad Seeds have never needed MTV.
MTV have needed them.
He will remain more famous for refusing it
The British music magazine, Select, always used to describe NC as 'cadaverous'.
Good for you. Also Jean Paul Satre, refused the Noble Peace as well as a Vietnamese political activist in the 70s. Good work.
If you hit my radar, you are not OBSCURE
A poem making social commentary.
The Murder Letter
There was too much growth in the money machine and everybody learning his whole showable mooves depend on the money in arts. There should be a precise kind of price pin in the way:what will it take to stretch world into kollaps, on anything.smile, laughter, mooves, teardrops, - how much is it for real.The footstep idea.I love the man that has the lowest sale- footstep on his shoulder.Do I?
B O S S
Dear comments, please stop identifying 'genius' with 'unique'.
"apply cold water to burned area"
The difference between Nick Cave's appearance and Jarvis Cocker, is night and day. Have a word with Nick, Jarvis he may give you the name of his tailor.
He was drunk when he wrote that latter? It’s brilliant!
Depends on what you take the word "stoned" to mean...
"Nick Cave like a boss" I should make a t-shirt like that. This man is a Real Man.
I have to say "KylieMinogue" in one word is my favorite word. It is not a joke.
🇦🇺🇦🇺👍
To be fair, MTV had not even been around for 20 years when he was nominated.
Out of the either she visits at her leisure she stays we are only medium
lol.
Marka.
I love love love Nick Cave, but I think in this letter he was just projecting onto MTV the huge anger he felt against himself. I mean, it was him who accepted to make a song with Kily Minoge and get into that side of the musical industry.
says muse is not a horse, then describes his muse bolting, and spooking as you would describe a horse. #museisactuallyhorseconspriacy2022
Modern Braveheart among bootlickers!
Art is not a contest
.
W e l l s a i d ❣
W e l l s p o k e n ❣
It's probably right to be so cynical of the success of a collaboration with Kylie Minogue. Mind you, he missed an opportunity to expose the average pop music listener to a broader vocabulary.
Sounds great Nick, so why did you do the music videos ?
I would humbly assume that it was a combination of managerial pressure, artistic vision, and why the f*** not?
Why are you on TH-cam?
TO begin with first my greetings (only for my "good kind Savoir Vivre manners")) from Athens!!! Seriously now as a multi -artist creator from my birth and third generation of AUTHENTIC genius unique always beloved MULTIARTISTS CREATORS myself I can so easily make that pretty clear to you with no offense just I answering sincerely to cover your ignorance on this specific theme you fou fou to make your nasty useless comment and it is as simple as it gets: the making of a video clip/ music video especially in the way Nick cave is filming them among others as well are also a way of creating one more artistic way of expression and can be as deep profound and of the best finest artistic quality the same that one can find in contemporary videoart and one can sw see in exhibitions in Modern Arts Museeums worldwide a music videos are not creayed to be played in stupid mainstream tv channels such s MTV if you are a real true genuine authentic artist and very clearly you accompany your music with a visual perspective to it as well!!!!BASIC LESSON ON HISTORY OF ARTS AND MUSIC INDEED!!!I think that answered your meaningless unrealistic question/comment! GREETINGS FROM ATHENS!
ATHENIAN STREETDOG FLORA:)
PS: MY SPELLING MISTAKES ARE JUST BECAUSE I AM WORKING AT THE MOMENT AND CO-CREATING IIN FOUR DIFFERENT LANGUAGES AND THEY ARE JUST A FUNNY WAY HOW THE HAND CAN ACTUALLY BE FAR FASTER THAN ANY KIND OF STUPID SLOW INTERNETIC COLD WRITING!!!AND NO I AM NOT SHOUTING BUT I AM INDEED LAUGHING WHILE READING IT ON MY SMALL COFFE QND CIGARETTE BREAK BECAUSE I RECOGNISE WELL THREE DIFFERENT ALPHABETS WITHIN IT EITHER WAY SORRY FOR MY ORTHOGRAPHICAL MISTAKES(?!) BUT STILL SOMEONE WHO WANTS CAN SO EASILY UNDERSTAND MY ANSWER ABOVE!!!MY HONEST TRUE GREETING AND HELLOS TO ALL OF YOU OUT THERE WORLDIDE FROM ATHENS!!!ENJOY LIVING ENJOY CREATING ENJOY LOVING AND LAUGHING ALWAYS !!!!🙂!
ATHENIAN STREETDOG FLORA:)
I remember those days, that video with Kylie was on MTV 24/7, I fucking hated that song/video, shitty song and cheesy video, ugh, kept me from enjoying the good Cave music for the years to come, it scared me away.
Started paying attention to Nick again with Grinderman. Latest Bad Seeds albums are amazing, suddenly I was back, listening to the good stuff he has created and going to Cave concerts.
Fuck MTV.
It ran me away from Nick Cave’s work as well. I came back. I also discovered a deep love for Blixa’s band Einsturzende Neubauten later in life.
Get a pop filter, Nick.
personally i would of rather a person like him receive a fragment of recognition over someone like George Michael. the people that applaud him here are the same people who are appalled when others are not familiar with his work.
It's about how Nick feels, not you, and making unsubstantiated opinions regarding his fans is just ignorant, as is writing would of rather than would've.
@@deaddoll1361 criticizing someone for having an opinion and writing would of opposed to would've seems fairly arrogant in itself.
it is possible to respect both artists, it is not a competition. mr cave could deliver and destroy us all with his version of 'praying for time'. and mr michael would of could have lamented the sweetest version of 'shivers' music is not a competition, it is an adventure.
Commento che poteva e doveva sicuramente evitare, quello su George Michael.. completamente inopportuno. Poco elegante. George, come sempre, da grande uomo che era, lo ha ignorato. A questo punto, credo x manifesta superiorità, in quanto migliore di lui sotto ogni punto di vista.
Gen XY:Ok Boomer
Nick: BoomerZ to you
Greta Thunberg: (smiles)
Huh? Outdated and unfunny.
So pretentious
A duet with the banal Kylie Minogue, probably the biggest artistic mistake he ever made.
Your face is banal.
Nick has often said that Kylie fascinated him and that anytime she wants he will do another collaboration with her. They still remain friends.
Nick, un genio pazzoide, ma, George Michael, indubbiamente più genio di lui.
Thanks but no thanks 🧶🪡