NEW HOLLAND balers from the 1960's: how they work, maintenance, operation, and making good bales
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- New Holland made many different models of square balers through the 1960's, and they all had similar components. In fact, modern square balers share many of the same general components. Using my New Holland 269 square baler as an example, I explain how the baler works, from incoming power through the PTO all the way to throwing a completed bale into the wagon, including the operation of the knotters. I also give maintenance tips and how to adjust the baler to make good bales.
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As a part time farm kid in the 70s to the early 80s I have lugged many a bale of hay. It was my aunt’s small farm in NW New Jersey & we pitched in at hay time. She had a New Holland baler, however despite being mechanically inclined I knew not to touch it was mysterious machine, she was not having anyone fool with it. The thrower would blow out some chaff just before launching the bale. I and who ever on the wagon would attempt to stack the hay as best we could. If done right we fill the wagon to the top. She went round bales as we grew up and moved on. Great times 👍🏻
Pete -- I have never known anyone in my life that explains things (anything) so well as you do. I grew up on a farm in Iowa in the 60's-70's and nobody ever taught me how any of our equipment worked. I was just a farmhand. Just a warm body in a seat (much like most of the new breed of truckdrivers today). So I want to thank you for explaining your operation so well. You are one of my favorite TH-camrs, and maybe even the most favorite. Take care, always.
I agree! I love all the details!
Never had anyone explain a baler like that. Thank you!
We just bought a 268 last week. The owner didn't have a tractor on site to run it but we took a chance and bought it anyway. We got it home and tested it out. It ran ok so next day we baled 500 bales. Made another 168 the following day. The baler didn't miss once. I'm sold on New Holland.
How is it? And are you still using it?
@@Huntersprojects Yes. Doing very well. Made a couple thousand bales again this year. Just did routine maintenance and replaced a few wear parts. One of the best investments I've ever made.
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Thank you for the update.
I work in the Plant that builds the Small Square baler, still going strong building them every day!
Hi Ben, that is something to be proud of!!
Ben, my father sold them from 59-87 at local dealer here in NC along with Allis Chalmers. When I was 15 back in 1974 we took the camper up to Lancaster and New Holland and toured the plant. Great memories for this 61 year old. We have a local NH dealer here and they do well. Lots of those old square balers still running around here for the horse folk. Most cattle folk use round balers.
Awesome!
My dad worked at a dealership in the late 50's / early '60's, and they sold new Holland equipment as a shortline.
@@DLTJR1959 I wonder if your dad sold my dad's D10 when it was brand new. 99% sure it's spent it's whole life in the GSO area.
Yes, incredible knowledge and teaching. If I were with you, and you went over everything many times, and slowly, I might eventually become a master like you.
You are the BEST small farm channel on TH-cam! !! Thank you!
The videos are gold dust - not just in the present, but for future generations. Thanks again Pete!
I always feel like Just a few Acres is right on par with PBS This old house level quality knowledge and entertainment value.
28 minutes 48 seconds well spent, thank you!
I can't tell you how many times I've come back to this video to troubleshoot my 272. Impeccable detail. Thank you so much for this. I truly appreciate it.
Checking in for the 5th or 6th time getting my 275 ready to go for the season lol.
@@frankdantonio2479 mine grenaded this season. Pulled a 425 out of a field, greased her up and hasn't even broke a bale. Love this old iron!
Awesome video. Ed Nolt put NH balers on the map by inventing the system that allowed a bale to be held in tension while the twine was being knotted. His system (from the 1930’s) was quite different than what was shown here, but no one else had come up with anything that worked, so he got his invention patented and went to NH with it. They liked it and implemented it and consequently almost had a monopoly on small square balers for the next 30-40 years. And made Ed Nolt a rich man. He was a humble Mennonite guy, and his solution for his wealth was to establish a trust fund that still provides funds for Mennonite parochial schools to this day.
You know Pete, you would make on hell of a good guest lecturer at an Ag College. You get your detailed point across in a way that is easy to digest IF one is at all interested in the topic.
Wow Pete what a thorough explanation of how that incredible machine works I’m impressed.
Not a farmer but find the equipment interesting. There's never a moment I'm not impressed by the mechanical design of fully analog systems. Computers and electronics have improved efficiency in many ways but come with their own problems, including planned obsolescence, component failure rates, and difficulty to diagnose and repair. As you said, a little mechanical understanding and a routine of TLC will keep these old farm pieces running for many decades, easily paying for themselves over a short time.
Thank you for your explanation of this baler.
Never have farmed likely never will but I can (and have) listen to Pete for hours. Great presentation.
Hi from Australia (Tasmania actually, down under Downunder!). I grew up with my father's NH 275, and now have an older NH Hayliner 69 which is in excellent order. Last year was my first year making hay "on my own" (that is, having to do the thinking) as my Dad passed away 11 years ago. Interesting how much you learnt that you didn't know you were learning when you have to make it work on your own. All went well and did 220 bales (all the grass we had to spare), but are hoping to do twice that this year, grass permitting. My only point to add to the excellent presentation you did is in regard to joining the two ball of twine. Dad showed me, and I think it is in the manual, that you divide the ends of the string into two even "strands" of say 6 inches length, then tie a knot in one strand of each ball and another knot in the other two strands (one from each ball) but make sure the two knots don't line up (ie say two inches from the end on one strand and four inches from the end of the other strand). That way two smaller knots consecutively pass through the system rather than one big knot. I see also that the twine has worn a groove in the eye of your needles. This will cause problems such as binding the string passage, catching the knots where the balls are joined (as described) as well as delivering the string out of position to the knotted mechanism. You can weld or braze the eye to replace the missing metal or drill a small hole (say 3/16") across the offending worn area and fit a hardened dowel pin for the string to bear on. Many thanks for your work.
When I grew up on the farm back in the 60's and 70's we had a NH compact 65 that baler was a awesome machine. We did hay commercially and averaged 20,000 or more bales a year with that baler. Those were great years growing up even though it was hard hot work. It's amazing the skills and work ethic I gained from the experience.
The person or company that invented the knotters amazes me. To me, that's a complicated Rube Goldberg device that really works and serves an important purpose. Several people had patents on various designs and improvements.
The engineering that made modern farming possible is pretty amazing. I can only imagine the years of trial and error before they created something that actually worked. Thanks for sharing
We had a new Holland bailer back in the later 60s and 70s. The sounds of the knotters doing their thing still echos clearly in my memory. We stacked every bale that thing threw into the wagons. Very hot hard work. I can’t think of a better place to grow up than on that neighbors farm. If I had the chance I’d do it all over again. Thanks for stirring up some very old memories.
Your content is so educational, thorough, fun and well produced! I feel like each video is it's own episode of a PBS show. Thanks for taking the time to provide this content to everyone on the internet.
Pete you explained a very complicated piece of machinery in very good simple terms that everyone can understand, Brilliant
Spent a lot of time haying with my Uncle. He had a NH baler powered by a Wisconsin engine hand crank to start. Had a bale thrower that hooked to the frame of the truck and tossed the bale to the poor chap stacking. If it was going to rain my uncle could drive pretty fast. whew. Thanks for the great video. 🇺🇸🐢🐄🚒🚑
Thank you for this great video. This old woman is looking for equipment and your wonderful explaination is a true blessing!
Thanks for showing us your baler. If Ed Nolt, George Delp, Abe Zimmerman, Larry Skromme, and Shaun Seymour (all worked for New Holland years ago developing predecessors to this product) got to see this, I'm sure it would have put a smile on their faces.
I like these in-depth and informative videos on older equipment, as i am a bit of a "nostalgia nerd".
But, more importantly, it shows that you do not have to have large loans, pay high interest rates and be in debt to the bank to create a living for yourself and your family.
Best regards from Sweden.
"nostalgia nerd" is also a youtube channel, but that channel does old vintage computers and video games not farming or related topics. I agree with you about the older equipment. If you know how to repair older farm equipment, they are a cheaper option instead of buying new.
New to the game and just bought an old New Holland 311. It wasn't tying off bales, and your video helped me figure out the issue quickly. Thanks!
Your tendency to hang onto 'old' bailers and tractors reminds me of my grandpa on the ranch: we had some very exotic looking tractors (huge monsters to a wee lad), all sorts of combines and spud harvesters laying about near the workshop for ages. When they finally sold the ranch, all the old timers from nearby ranches came to the auction to get parts to repair their old stuff. He just couldn't let anything go---even his old Model T's and A's who were way beyond their prime (but still worked)---after he'd put so much time and effort into keeping them up. They were family!
Thank you Pete just inherited my own 269 she will need lots of work but you have inspired me to get outs going strong.
The engineering behind that knotter is mind blowing. The guy that came up with that is a real genius
Pete. anytime I have a question about how to do something on my farm you're one of my first go to's on how to do. Thanks for doing what you do. (I'm currently working on getting a 269 to operational condition.)
Thank's Pete.
What an absolutely fantastic explanation and review of the New Holland. Great job! Anyone that has ever run one can appreciate the engineering of these things. 🤠❤️🇺🇸
When I was young we baled 120,000 bales a summer for winter feeding for the cows. It was a wire binding baler. The wire didn’t break as often. Unfortunately we had to stack the hay and then feed out in the winter. Bales weighed 60-80 pounds great workout for young folks. It was a new Holland as far as I remember.
Thanks for the memories. It was life not drudgery.
I grew up using a New Holland baler. Those people were geniuses who invented it with all its moving parts and timing.
Thanks for a great tour of your shinny "new" New Holland baler.
I remember back in the 60s when I had only just became a teenager our local farmer, who we always helped at harvest time, bought a brand new New Holland Super Hayliner 268 to replace his ageing International baler.
WELL!
With the old one, the group of us kids could handle the flow of bales from the International baler but man, could that new thing spew out bales!!!
The farmer was traveling at nearly twice the speed and the 268 just gobbled it up quick style.
We knew we had done a days work after that but it was good grounding for all of us and taught us good work ethics.
Got a lot to thank that new baler for.
"Hello, and welcome to Pete's Garage..." What a hoot!
Hey Pete,,,gotta say,your equipment is ALWAYS in great shape. Less complicated,,,more reliable. Admire the fact you understand how it works.
We never had a thrower, stood behind an ol hayliner for many hot summer days! Great Vid, love your perspectives on farming and life!
As a12 year old boy (1972) my brother and I worked on 2 nearby farms to bale hay. The one farm we worked on had old equipment- massey Harris tractors that were probably 25 yrs. Old- I think they were 44' model no., to illustrate the poor conditions of this farm, the farmer had a baler twine used as a belt for his well worn pants and he would wear a straw hat when on the tractor baling hay and the top center of his hat was a loose flap of woven straw that would fly up in a modest breeze. I'm almost certain he couldn't read or write. He seemed to be under constant stress to pay his Bill's and to keep at least one of the Massey's in working order and he was not much of a mechanic. They had 50 or so dairy cows and that kept them with a small income. I remember one day we were baling with the help of the neighboring farmer and there was a breakdown with the baler- I'm pretty sure it was an older new Holland model as most in our area were.the needle arms ( curved skinny metal pcs.) Were replaced ( not sure why) but the timing was not reset properly and when they turned the PTO on the new needle arms broke instantly! That was a bad day for that farmer and I can still remember the grief on that man's face. I also remember him complaining about the high price of the new parts that were now useless. My brother and I just enjoyed be able to help on the farms and the farmers appreciated us because we were willing to work and everyday there were things to learn. We had the luxury of being on the farms without living there . They are good memories and lessons that I now know we were fortunate to have! I also realize that the old farmer needed us as he could no longer do alot of hard physical work especially during hot days baling hay and putting it in the barn. The farm was isolated and if you were to visit that farm in 1972 you might think it was 1932 instead of 1972. The farm is now a crowded housing development! Progress ????
Pete, well done. I can relate to every word you say. I own and use a Massey Ferguson 53 (1968). Your New Holland is a show stopper. Yes picked up a few tips from you, thanks.
Hi Pete, about knots, older balers could not take the type of knot you are describing - we used a modified square knot, mixing the fibers of the twine (old type twine) together. It is hard to explain in writing but it is described in older baler books. Great video, Ciao, L
My grandpa had a baler like that new holland you got. It didn't have a kicker it just fell out on the ground and me and my brothers would load the bales on a trailer.
Thank you for going through this. I have always wanted to know how this baler worked. 🤠👍
Hi Pete, fellow farmer here, I assembled these balers for my uncle (farmer who introduced NH to our community in the early sixties). Later, we studied this baler in our mechanized agriculture engineering class. This series of baler which was made for nearly 30 years with few modifications (it was a low capacity "entry-level" baler for the tractors of the day). The shear pin on your flywheel is not for the overload hay in the bale chamber, it is to disconnect the drive if the needles safety interlock would be activated (i.e. a piece of wood get in the plunger needle grooves and prevents the needles from wrapping the bales - the interlock will block the plunger from coming back and breaking the needles).
The different bale chamber feeding mechanisms that you described have to do with the capacity of the baler. At 540 rpm, this as fast as the bale feeding mechanism could work because of the momentum of the feeder arm assy. This system was better than IHC because did split the hay partly where the plunger knives would cut the bale. All the gear on this baler including the plunger supports were roller-bearing mounted. It was made to require very little power from the tractors of that era. Finally, I would suspect that this 269 had a dealer-installed thrower (Hayliner 271/273 would have the factory-installed throwers). You made a wise choice to install the model 70 bale thrower as it enables you to drop your bales in the field if you want to. It was discontinued because its frame was more fragile than the model 53, 54... and some less "gentle" farmers would break them (usually hitting a fence post with them or bottoming them in a gully.
My brother has the family farm and he gave me the 268 (short tongue) with bale thrower (added) that we bought new in 1967, I am his neighbor. I am trying to model my farm to the way farming was done back in the 50s~60s, restoring implements of that era. My brother has the large "efficient" family dairy farm.
PS: Back in the sixties/seventies, NH was the most innovative American implement company - it is amazing the amount of designs/patents that they came up with over the years. Peace be with you, Ciao, L (Maine)
I've spent many hours on a wagon behind one of them rigs that had a chute on it
I was always amazed at how a machine could tie a Knott in them strings like that
Hi Pete, I run a 268, and that was a very good, informational video. I picked up a couple of useful tips watching it. I wanted to mention that I use a square knot to join balls of twine. and like you said cut off the excess tail after the knot is tight. I know some argue that square notes aren't the best knot for certain applications but it hasn't failed me(as far as I know) in joining the balls. I'm with you on changing courses because of the exuberant amount of work with small squares, and for my lambing season, I have found large squares to be my solution to back problems. you are made to work with forks and spears verses you back. they stack nicer, IMO. and when kept dry, flake off nicely. I still appreciate the nostalgia of the small squares, and it is a good workout for the young men. plus those small square straw balls are good money in the fall for Halloween decorations.
I'm glad this popped up on my suggestions. thanks, and have a great day.
Excellent run through the mechanism and tips for better operation, maintenance, storage, tuning in the field and lessons learned over the years. I ran a few NH balers in the past and still learned a lot here. Great style and pace of delivery of knowledge, it’s obviously about the subject and not the presenter... well done. I really enjoyed this video. Thanks very much for making the effort and sharing your knowledge and experience.
30 yrs ago, as a teenager, I spent countless hours on the wagon bucking bales for the neighborhood farmers. Never thought about how they worked at the time!! Thanks for bringing back a lot of old memories!!
You amaze me at your attention to detail. I remember those knotters giving us the most problems back in my youth. Keep up the great content.
Excellent video, Sir.
For a guy like myself in my early 30s, this knowledge is priceless and I'm sure everyone can appreciate you passing it on.
Hope to be Haying my 6 acres with a New Holland like this by next year.
Had a 273 new holland for more then 20 years, we averaged 3000 to 5000 bales per year with the old baler. Updated to a 570 high capacity several years ago and I'm very happy with it. New Holland does make a great baler.👍
Peach, I hope there’s not a quiz over all of that information because I’m sure I’m going to flunk but I certainly did enjoy learning about this Baylor and all that it can do… I definitely did Enjoy learning learning About this piece of equipment and how it works but also just listening to you talk about something you’re so passionate about!! It is so relaxing and I want to thank you for this video. Every day is a great OK when I get to hear one of your videos❣️❣️
Thanks Hillary for being a behind the Scenes support♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
Great job teaching about the new Holland square. I have two of them. A 315 and a 273. You did the best job that I have ever seen on u tube. God bless! Bobby in McCrory Arkansas.
I don’t know why I am watching this but you make it incredibly interesting!!
Congratulations you have produce a jewel on the operation of this baler. Your tips are great. Thanks!
Well, I had a baler like yiours and never really knew what you do about it. Like you said, after a few distorted bales and the adjustments are tuned, you can bale non-stop. I've seen some old John-Deere balers that worked so much like the Hew Holland it appeared they copied it. I was always very caareful with the needles after they broke. Being cast iron I was able to weld them back together. Thanks Professor for this episode.
This review is gold.
After watching far too much bad news lately, it was time for something a bit more down to earth. Your very clear, explanation of this complicated piece of equipment brought me back down to earth. Thank you.
I don't speak english, but I understood how a baler works!
Thank you, my farm friend!👋
Excellent video, thanks for taking the time to make this. These are great old machines and as you mention, they only need some basic knowledge to keep running at optimum level. Your educational video will be really valuable to folks who have never had to repair and maintain these balers. Awesome work!
Got a new Holland 68 for free, sat 25 years, greased it and put some twine in it and pushed over 1000 bales out of it that summer
Thank you. Just thank you for being educational, thorough and fun. We're venturing into farming and a little understanding goes a long long way.
Getting an old NH S67 in shape myself. Another excellent production! Thanks!
It’s not junk they are collectors that’s what I call the folks who have all kinds of stuff sitting around
I’m new to the channel but the first video I started following you great content really enjoy your videos hope you and the family have a Merry Christmas
My dad had aa Hayliner "67" ..... the plunger actually run on cherrywood slides against the steel (no bearings),... along with the chaff,.. in the chamber that's all it ever had,... I remember the chamber where the wood run would be very shiny,... and in all the years,... we never replaced them,..... I miss it,.......thanks for the very well prepared video,... very professionally done,....New Holland did a good job in designing their machines,...... thanks again..........
Grandpa bought a NH 280 serial number 1960. Dad ended up with it. Uncles bought models 281, 282, 283.
Those models used the chain driven raker teeth to feed the bale chamber. The 280 worked better for baling straw than the 260, because the chain lifted the raker teeth up out of the incoming straw. We used the 280 mostly with a IHC Farmall M gas, Super M gas, then lastly a SMTA gas with live PTO. That was heaven, being able to push the clutch in & the PTO kept running. Numerous times on the M & SM we were shifting with the plunger, sometimes the tractor would end up in 2 gears at once stopping the motor NOW & sliding the rear tires. We used the 280 so much that the floor of the bale chamber wore out.
One thing that I like about the 260 is that the needles come up through a gap in the plunger, on the 280, the plunger could hit the needles breaking them!
Dad always kept 1 new needle & 2 welded up needles under the bench.
Hello from north east Montana.
10 miles from the Canadian border.
Always enjoy your very informative videos. I have a 268 and a 269. Been baling with the 268 for about 30 years. This video taught me a few things I didnt know mainly the cable system that locks the outbound wheel.
Great run through! Wish this video existed when I got my 273 14 years ago. I remember chasing my tail since mine was sold to me with plastic twine in... Took me forever to figure out it needed sisal to tie properly!
OUTSTANDING!
Both the explanation of the workings of the baler and the tricks-of-the-trade.
Thank you so totally.
Very nice walk around of this baler. Just a funny story. My dad was so cheap when we were kids, he made us take the used bale strings and tie them back together end for end and reroll it back into a ball for the next year. We got really good at making small tight knots and strangely enough, we had very little trouble with them going through the baler the next year. Each bale then had 2 knots in each string. It was a different time back then I guess but we saved him 10s of dollars. Lol
The time you take to show and explain how a small farm operates has made this channel my favourite farm channel.👍👍👍
I grew up on a Dairy Farm in the 70’s and 80’s. Calumet and Fond du Lac counties is where our farm was. Always had a view of Lake Winnebago. We had this bailer with the throw belts. Except that we used twine spools instead of twine balls. Three crops of hay. Bailed oat straw for bedding. We did not clean out the bailer but bailed dry straw through for winter storage. Greased all inserts after a few hours of operation. All farm equipment was stored in machine sheds to protect from the elements. My Mom always drove the tractor that pulled the bailer. She spliced the twine and replaced sheer pins herself. I raked hay with an Allis charmers tractor and New Holland rake. In my teenager years ( when my brother Jerry started taking over and was my boss, so to speak, I cut hay too. I either unload hay wagons or stacked in the hay mow. It was long, long, long days. No AC while sleeping. Parents hired local teenagers to help. A favorite I remember is Mom order take out for all from a local bar/restaurant. When I think to myself how hard my family use to work….well I keep going with my task for home upkeep and overtime at work as a welder for Oshkosh Defense. Thank you for posting and take care.
Your videos are better than primetime tv,job well done.
I enjoyed this video. My grandfather owned and operated a farm machinery dealership in Northwestern PA. I spent many hours there as a youngster watching and learning. Brings back great memories!
My cousins who still farm were much better at baling than I was - upper body strength, able to throw the bale up to the 5th or 6th level and stack tightly. I do recall the driver needing to steer left and right on the windrow so that the hay would pack evenly: if too far left would pack on the knife side, too far right, too loose on the knife side. Was hoping to see a bale and show it deconstructed. Great video.
Love this video. Just got out my grandfathers square baler to do fall hay. Our uncle who always helped us hay has died and I need to get this baler ready this is great! Thanks
I have stumbled across your videos and channel quite by accident. I am so glad I did. I'm 52 myself and watching your videos is bringing back all my childhood memories of exactly the same tractors and equipment I first got to know. God bless, keep em coming, mate. Chris, Cheshire, UK.
This is awesome. My grandson wants to start putting up square bales. It's been a minute since we ran a 268. My uncle was a new holland dealer for 40 years, so i learned a lot. One thing that i noticed was your discussion of the pto shaft. The 269 was a "long tongue" version of the "short tongue" 268. The 269 had the extra bearing.
Wow. Thank you. I am new to cutting hay. I have a new Holland 268 that we got for 1200. your video has taught me a lot. I’m still working out all the kinks in the baler but hopefully soon it will bale great again.
I am learning so much about stuff, I have absolutely have no need to know! Loving every minute of it. Kidding aside, I think we all should know what goes into bringing food to market. Thank you!
First time you didn't open a video with "Hi, I'm Pete, and welcome to Just a Few Acres Farm" Threw me off a little.
Lol
I've been watching a lot of "Jay Leno's Garage" lately...
We use a New Holland 273 right now, and used a 68 before that. Always enjoy your videos, nicely done!
I enjoy your operational videos especially on the older basic equipment.
You a one of the best teachers/instructors that I have had the pleasure of watching. I remember as a boy baling hey, with a New Holland, with my grandfather and uncles. I remember them fussing with it when we went into the fields until it worked seamlessly. We would bale hey for weeks. A lot of work! Thank you.
Pete, thanks so much for this video, it brought back a lot of late 70's and early 80's memories for me. My grandfather was a farmer in western Illinois and I worked summers helping out from about 10yrs old to my late teens. Putting up hay was one of my first jobs and he had a New Holland very much like yours. I still vividly remember that monster shaking back and forth just waiting to chomp up the windrows. I also remember him having to replace that shear pin a couple times during the season (don't remember if his had the slip clutches) and I learned quickly how to correctly tie the twine knots like you say to keep them from binding. He didn't use twine in balls, it was in coreless spools that fed out of the center. Great memories!
Pete, appreciate all your videos, but this one especially! We just bought 20 acres and will be having a portion of it (even though I know it's not the most cost efficient method). I didn't grow on a farm and all this is relatively new to me and balers have always seemed like a mystical creature. You did an incredible job of explaining it all in a very easy to understand manner. I dont feel nearly as overwhelmed as I did before I watched this and will have a better idea of things to look for on a used baler. Thanks!!
Thanks Pete I just purchased an International 1975 model 440 wire bailer it needs some work but really a good machine been stored inside but needs gone through and painted I’ve been using round bailers for a while but always wanted to do some squares I’ve got plenty of customers to sell to that want square hay, you definitely proved that a restoration is possible for older machines like these because Blue Collar guys like us can’t justify spending $25,000 dollars on a new machine, thanks again brother awesome video!!!!
I have always been fascinated by square balers. They are very complex and amazing pieces of farm equipment. I saw an old 277 New Holland for sale so I purchased it for $3,000. It came with a 310 parts machine. I have yet to bake hay with it but it is on my bucket list. This video was very helpful to me.
I started with a Hayliner 58 in 1996 pulled behind an H. The 58 apparently had wood slides that the plunger rode on, and I began to get poorly cut bales. Thought the problem was dull knives but sharpening didn't help. The NH people told me that I needed new slides because they were worn and allowed the plunger to move over away from the knife mounted on the baler so that hay would not be cut with the scissor action. Instead, found a Super Hayliner 69 up the road about 2 miles from me and bought it for $400. Used it for a number of years until my wife and I decided that we were getting too old for this. We baled 3000 bales our last year of square baling, just her driving and me stacking on the wagons. We would do 2 wagons an evening after getting home from work from May until sometime August (some second cutting). Bought a round baler for the next season and a little bigger tractor. By the way, I replaced the H after about the 3rd year with a Case 411B with live PTO. Made baling so much easier.
I went through the same learning process having to learn how everything worked, how to adjust, lube, and replace parts on the knotters. Replacing parts, timing, the whole thing was a great learning experience, and I won't even get into the Ford 3pt sickle mower. But, by the time we quit, I could make the mower cut and the baler bale with the best of them..
Spent a summer on my Uncle's PA farm behind one of these stacking bales in a cart. Taking a bale in the face taught me to ALWAYS keep my eye on the thrower... ;)
WOW Pete another Master Class from you ,i just hope many small young farmers were watching this lesson on running storing and adjusting New Holland square balers ,Thank you.
A great in-depth look at the baler, I learned a bit myself! We baled small sqaures on our farm up to about 2011, when I went to college. Then they switched to rounds while I was away lol.
I’m betting that wasn’t a coincidence.
Collin Sloan I don’t think it was either 😆
Wish there was a double like button for your videos! Always great useful content!
This is a great video. I grew up baling (on the wagon of course) with a NH 273 baler my dad had. The mechanics always fascinated me but I never took the time to learn how it all came together. I can hear every sound now. It was very distinct. Dad always fixed it when something went haywire (pun intended). Thanks to you all these years later I now have learned something that always wondered about and eluded me due to my own laziness. It has brought back many great memories. Dad's 273 would throw pins pretty often so your explanation on that was interesting. Our 273 was a wire baler but the rest of the machine was the same. NH made the best as you said. 256 hay rake was hard to beat as well. Thank you very much for your time putting this together.
Thanks for the video. We used one on the farm I worked in 78. The klacking of the knotter was music to us
We had a New Holland bailer. made in the late 50's. We pulled it with the John Deere B. It had a Wisconsin 4 cylinder air cooled engine. You could have used a Ford 9N to pull it. The knotter was awesome. Never seemed to skip a beet except for once in a while.Don't know the model I was too young to care about those details. We had an International bailer that had terrible trouble with the knotter. It was old my father gave it to another farmer with the same bailer. I love you're vid's thanks for sharing. :-)
Thanks, For this. I love seeing how the "Old" machines worked..
We always tied our balls of twine together using a square knot. That created a smaller knot and less trouble from bales being missed tied.
Reading all the comments after watching a truly worth while video. Too a start up small farmer
It’s price less. Pete. Thanks.
For being raised on 3k acre row crop farm with all new equipment, ofc we got 1066’s 1256’s super c’s, Ms etc.. I envy you for working so hard on this old equipment then again all this new equipment we got one thing goes wrong it’s not like fixing a 1066 but still this is amazing content and a very hard working smart guy here