Triple-T Thursday #12 - The New Forge
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ก.พ. 2025
- In this Triple-T Thursday (Tools, Tips and Talk), I'll review the new forge I'm working on. The parts list is below!
Links to parts:
Insulated Firebrick (12): amzn.to/3o5EZ6I
Mizzou Refractory (10 lbs): amzn.to/3pCQBhW
Sealcoat HT Caulking: amzn.to/3poDTDB
1 1/4" Gate Valve: amzn.to/3hiV5HO
1/4" Pressure Gauge: amzn.to/3pvmicW
1/4" Ball Valve: amzn.to/2M89evP
1/4" Needle Valve: amzn.to/3hne18d
Dayton Blower: amzn.to/2KZXPhf
Pulley Block: amzn.to/3rHkn7k
100 lbs propane tank: amzn.to/3hnqhFK
Propane adapter: amzn.to/34OM6Jf
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Please man, when you get this all straightened out share the whole build with us. It’s the best I’ve seen!
For sure there will be another video on it. 👍
@@TyrellKnifeworks thank you
I love that door, super duper groovy!
I did the same one on the new forge build I just did. You’re watching this one from last year though.
I have also been collecting cards to do this build! I like the thought that you put into your doors Denis!
Thanks, I hope it turns out like I have in my head. 😜
Forge looking good. Will be awesomeonce finished👍👍👍🔥🔥🔥🔥
I hope so! Still waiting on that refractory to get things finished. I'm anxious to try it out! Thanks for watching.
Can't wait to see you using that forge, and the idea of a long blade sounds awesome.
I have some ideas in mind. I just have to find the time. 😉
I'm looking forward to seeing it run.
Me too! I hope it works out! 👍
How do you guys do your forges? Any other things you've done to make them easy to cope with flux?
I made a cheapo coffee can forge, but only used it once before I built a better one out of a waste scuba tank, kaowool and satanite . There’s a short video of it on my channel.
I thought about using a scuba tank for my first but thought the diameter wouldn’t be large enough. I guess you made it work! I’ll check it out.
Ive heard great things about Bubble Alumina Refractory Coating: available here www.hightemptools.com/refractorycoatings.html in regards to resisting flux damage
I've heard that mentioned in another video as well. I'm using Mizzou refractory which is supposed to be really good for flux. Still, I want to be able to easily reline it without having to redo the whole forge. I'll check that refractory out next time I need to buy some, thanks!
@@TyrellKnifeworks
A 14 litre tank was big enough 👍🏻👍🏻😍
Hell yeah man! That’s gonna be a great forge. Forced air is the way to go! I love mine and I can attest to running 3psi at welding temps all day!🔥⚒💪🏻
Yeah I’ve seen yours in videos! Works great! I hope mine works as well.
Always solid sir. I love the ribbon burner. Heard great things about those!
I hope it turns out well! You’ll see it soon hopefully. 👍
Great project, already impatient to see it finished, thank you very much for the Spanish translation, I appreciate it!
I’m impatient too!! That refractory has been ordered 2 weeks ago! It should arrive today hopefully. 🤞
Really looking forward to the next video...
The refractory is setting up on the burner now but I had to order more for the forge. It likely won’t be done for next Thursday but I’ll give you guys an update. 👍
@@TyrellKnifeworks Great...well it will be worth waiting for. Glad you decided to go away from the wool story as flux destroys it.. I do a lined story but I must admit.... depending on how yours turns out...it may be remake forge month. Always great to see your videos in my feed. Please keep them coming
@@danwerkman I'm going to do a bit more of a build video on it this week as I do things as well plus lighting the burner for the first time. 😮 Glad to have you aboard, Dan!
Looking forward to seeing how this turns out! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks for watching!
I can't wait to see that new forge lit off and your building something really cool with it. I'm still using charcoal to forge with and have never tried damascus yet.
You will some day! Thanks for watching!
Interested to see this running. I don't think I have seen a forced air burner with a mig tip in it as an orifice. Most seem to just use an 1/8 or 1/4 pipe to inject the propane. You would need more pressure to get the same amount of BTU output with the smaller orifice. Might be interesting to see a video on when you tune this burner to get the right flame and enough output for a welding heat.
I saw one video that used a mig tip. If it does work it’s easy to remove at least. I’m sure I’ll certainly have to tune it though. Thanks for watching.
I just watched this video and have some information that will help you in your forge builds. As an employee of Atlas Knife and Tool (a commercial forge building company located in pleseanthill IA). We have found that if you line your forge with Plistex 900f you won't have Flux chewing away at your refractory as the Plistex with turn into a ceramic after firing.
I’m actually retiring this forge and my video this weekend is the new forge build. Check that one out. I’ll have to look up this plistex though. Thanks for watching
Awesome forge man.
I may build another one soon. I love building forges. 😃
It's the other way round with the bricks, the insulating bricks are very slow to heat through and store very little heat. You can have one face glowing and the other side will be cool. Hard firebrick stores tons of heat but takes a long time to heat up.
Thanks. I guess I got it backwards but you know what meant. 😜
Replaceable bricks on the floor are very good option! the air forced burner looks great! Well done Denis:)!
btw: Long time ago I've try to make air forced burner but I failed. I hope that everything will go well in your case, but if you will have a problem with it, think about speed regulator in the fan. Sometimes the air pressure is right, but the speed it to high. That was my problem.
Thanks David, I'll keep that in mind.
From 25 to 3 psi. Nice!
Should be a big savings in gas!
Nice man.. I made a ribbon burner forge and it works pretty good but I think my blower is too small.. ill buy a bigger one and we shall see..lol
That’s what I’m a bit worried about, that the blower is too small. We’ll see.
my wife just got me a forge for Christmas from devil forge, and i cant wait to get to blade smiting
That’s great! Slap on the refractory and heat her up! 😜
@@TyrellKnifeworks just waiting for that, and i will make sure to tag you on the Instagram pictures
Looking forward to seeing your first blade!
@@TyrellKnifeworks have you got any general tips?
@@shaungreen679 take your time and don’t get in a hurry to get to the next step. Hit me on Instagram if you have questions throughout. 👍
Nice channel, subbed!
Welcome, Michael!
Did you use your Titanium welder to weld the steel casing and parts? I got the same welder last Christmas but haven't tried it out yet. I heard it works pretty good for thin steels.
Yup, used that titanium welder for everything. I’m pretty happy with it. It migs well and I’ve used it for tig as well. It only does lift-start tig but seems to work well enough for me. I’m certainly no expert welder though! 😜
@@TyrellKnifeworks Glad to hear it. I Should have some time soon to learn how to use it soon. Love the size of it.
Is it necessary to put an air filter at the intake of the blower?
I’ve never heard or seen anyone use a filter. I’m not really concerned if the air going into the forge is clean. Unless there’s something I don’t know? 🤷♂️
What type of refractory did you use? I'm trying a product called KS-4V, will see how it looks in a couple of days. (Just cast the burner today.)
I use mizzou refractory. There’s a link in the video description. Thanks for watching.
@@TyrellKnifeworks I was thinking about Mizzou but this stuff is supposedly a bit better, plus it ships from Canada so I'm giving it a try. Plenty to do a second casting with if I pooched the mix of this one.
Coming in 1.5years later how is the forge holding up? Im thinking of building this style myself. Thanks!
It’s going very strong. I’ve not repaired or replaced any part of it. The only thing I would change is making the ribbon burner longer so the heat was more even across the forge. It’s certainly hot enough to forge weld. 👍 Thanks for watching
@@TyrellKnifeworks I didn't happen to see how long yours was in tue video. Do you remember how long you made it?
It’s 18” long but the burner is only 8”, I would make it 12” next time so there’s only 3” on the other side.
@@TyrellKnifeworks thanks! 12" is exactly what I was thinking of doing for that same reason.
That is the only way to go if you want to build a forge that lasts , does not waste expensive gas and is very easely maintained. The ordinary hard firebrick is very cheap to replace. On the burner : imho the reason why most diy ventury burners dont give the same amount heat is because they never are able to suck in enough air to get at a perfect propane to air mixture. The best mix is about 24 parts air (by volume) to 1 part propane( by volume). A ventury burner never reaches that mix so you need to burn a lot more gas at a higher pressure to get a better venturi effect and to get enough heat. The only reason why any forced burner ( forced ribbon or forced single burner) works better is because of the air you can force in by a blower or compressor. A forced single burner and a ribbon burner give the same amount of heat per volume of gas used if it gets the same amount of air to burn. A lot of people building there own venturi burners will never get it to work as intended as they are not able to measure the right mix.......they basically have a very cheap forge build that becomes super expensive because of the gas they waste over a longer periode of time. You can see yourself when you have to little air and your forge is wasting gas when the flames come far out of the encasing and burn outside the forge....all those flames outside the forge is basically heat wasted. If you want to know the ideal for the gaspressure set and blower rpm....use a thermocouple and cheque regurarly using more or less air. Write it down or mark the valves. Using a blower at a much to high setting does no longer increase heat....it only makes the steel oxidize faster. You can get damascus (or any other metal laminate) to work without any borax or other flux.....a simple oxigen free encasing takes only a few minutes to make. If you want to cut and restack just weld the seams( tig, mig ,stick). Far more secure and no borax sticking to all objects and tools you use during forging. I have not been using borax for a long while. The only thing i get on the forge floor is oxidation skin. Thats easely removed with a brush after cooling. If i ever need to use borax i made a undeep stainless recipient (1/8 sheet metal) that is almost as big as the forge floor and that can be removed after use. It can stand a lot of heat and catches the spilled borax.
Thanks for the detailed comment. I’m excited to move to forced air for sure. I really have no love for those frosty T burners that everyone seems to like. You have no control of air flow at all, only has pressure. I think folks don’t understand the importance of controlling the air mixture to create a very gas rich or gas lean environment. Thanks for watching!
@@TyrellKnifeworks Just make sure you also install a simple electrovalve on the gasline. When there's a electric power failure...this valve needs to close and shut off the gas. If you do not have that safety : there's no power to the blower, that means no air to burn....so the flame goes out but the gas keeps on flowing. If you are in the shop when it happens you can act fast....but if you left the shop for a minute when the forge is still lit there's a chance things go BOOM. ;)
@@HoutmeyersP I thought about installing one but I don't leave the shop when the forge is on. I may look at installing one in the future for safety.
Can you make it with natural gas like in your house
Yes, you can. It takes some modifications in the regulator but certainly possible.