Early Launch - RX 9070 XT Final Specs & Release Date
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Early Launch - RX 9070 XT Final Specs & Release Date
Okay, so the RX 9070 XT and the 9070, these are two cards which at least I have definitely been looking forward to. However, there's been a lot of mixed information when it comes to the release date as well as the performance of these cards. But recently we got a ton of new information, so let's go ahead and dive into it, starting off with some information that comes from videocards.com in relation to the release date for these brand new cards, which should hopefully be competing with the 5070 and the 5070 Ti, yet offering you a good 16 gigabytes of VRAM at hopefully a much lower price. But in any case, according to videocards.com, they state, "It looks like AMD is set to formally announce the new series by the end of this month as revealed by BenchLife," which BenchLife actually stated, "If nothing unexpected happens, AMD will hold a press conference for the RX 9000 series based on the RDNA 4 GPU architecture at the end of February." But the details are still being confirmed, so that would definitely be a pretty big update as the last bit of information we got from AMD is that it was going to be, I guess you could say, delayed until March. A lot of people were originally actually expecting them around January, as apparently there was a pre-briefing at CES for a bunch of various different reviewers and press, but for some reason, they just simply didn't actually show it at CES. And I surmised that, hmm, maybe Radeon was once again following into their old bad habits of waiting to see what Nvidia does, being scared and then trying to drop like $50 off the price and thinking that was going to be good enough. But the more we hear, the more I'm starting to think that maybe that's only part of the story and maybe Radeon isn't pulling Radeon and you might actually get a really good graphics card this year around.
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I'm personally not selling anywhere else unless I have to now.
Jawa is pretty vacant, I tried looking for a good used rtx 3080 zip zero zitch just a rtx 3080ti
So, you think AMD will sell RTX 9070 XT for 449 USD MSRP?
To be frank I wonder how hard it would be for AMD to implement a transformer model into FSR4 since it is AI based? heck I wonder if AMD has designed FSR4 with transformer model in mind and has not spilt the beans?
Ofc it will be worth it! 4070Ti Super performance at 550$? Anyone not playing on 4k ultra will throw money at AMD.
Anyone notice that a lot of Nvidea cards are aging very poorly due to the VRAM.
Yup. Every card in the Ampere line-up except the 3060 12GB and 3090 cards and every card below the 4090 (the 4080/4080 Super would have aged well if the price were lower). Currently swapping between a 7900 XTX and a 3090 depending on what I’m doing.
@@perlichtman1562the 4070 and up are all fine. The 4060 is fine too as long as you have realistic expectations, which is perfect for a lot of people who just want to play esports. Only bad card from the 40 series was the 4080 which got replaced and the 4060ti which has come down in price tbf but it needs to come down more
Tell me about it I have a 3070 lol. High settings and generally ok but not ultra or any DLSS except quality
It's a scheme to get consumers stuck in a upgrade cycle. Nvidia is purposely stingy with the VRAM so you have to buy a new GPU every few years.10GB 3080 might have been ok 5 years ago, but 10 GB doesn't stretch too far now. They tried to do it again last gen with the 4080 being 12 GB. It was so laughable they had to scratch it/ rename it 4070 Super.
I have a gtx1080, finally looking to upgrade. I got booted out of a game lobby for inactivity before I was loaded in to select a character.. I think that's a good sign. But almost 8 years later. That's not bad
I'm buying a 9070XT, and I don't even need a GPU. It should be a nice step up from a 3060 for my kid, though.
The exact upgrade I’m making too 🤣
Good dad.
Good Parent 👍
@@stephanhart9941 heck yeah
AMD FSR4 and overall GPU performance and visuals are superior to the competition.
Dont care anymore, bought a 7900XT. Nvidia gpus are going for much higher than I thought - the 5070 doesnt have 4090 performance. the 5080 is boring af, the 5090 is a 4090TI. AMD waited too long to give us any prices or any real specifications - so I dont even care anymore. Im dippin out for the next few generations.
@@neavo8421 5090 is more than would 4090TI be , but you can't go wrong with 7900xt , you will be fine for long time.
Yea IDK I tried to piece out a new build and everything's just ****ing expensive, particularly considering my first build scratched $1100 I'm just like "why torture yourself with it when it still plays titles on your screen fine?"
20 gigs of vram wil be nice for a few years. I am debating the same thing right now
Aye man, whatever works for you. As long as you're happy with your GPU, you need not concern yourself with the market. Besides, RDNA4 is "dead" after this generation since UDNA is replacing it when AMD goes back for the high end market.
By dead, I mean it's only on this series of cards for AMD.
that sums it up pretty well.
Don't care about upscaling. Not even a bit. Nor do I care about fake frames.
So for me AMD might be the pick this time around.
"don't care about upscaling" then you will struggle in modern unoptimized games which basically require upscaling to reach playable framerates. Also thanks to TAA being everywhere nowadays, native res with TAA often looks worse than DLSS Quality in many games and always looks worse than native res with DLAA. Both are Nvidia technologies. This is why I will be buying 5070 Ti. I don't care about frame gen either, only DLSS, DLAA and Ray-reconstruction. Currently have RX 7800 XT and it sucks not being able to turn on DLSS, DLAA and Ray-reconstruction.
@@Ignisan_66 just don't buy modern unoptimized games lmao
@@Ignisan_66 I’m new to all of this.what is DLSS and DLAA?
@@THEPOSSUMNUTS Deep learning super sampling and Deep learning anti-aliasing. Rendering images at lower resolutions, then using some form of upscailing technology to bring up the lower resolution to higher resolution. Sometimes it works well. Sometimes you get some odd visuals.
@@Tennyson999 Yeah play snake then 😂😂😂😂
doesnt matter if the 50 series is better you cant find them its a paper launch lol
I'm enjoying my free RTX 5090 from an eBay scalper because I'm gonna return it in 24 days due to "random freezes" LUL
@@brssu7500 😂😂😂
I mean that’s literally GPU launch in the past 15 years
Yeah it's a paper launch for a paper weight because you know nvidias drivers are bricking the 50xx series cards 🤣 So now you got a paperweight if you own one and if you don't well...good for you tbh?
@OneTomato nah wasn't an issue pre covid atleast I never had any issue getting a gpu
I'll buy a 9070xt. I'm bored of Nvidia paper launch and crazy prices. I'll play red that gen.
@@morganm4845 same
unless AMd will have same paper launch too
I'm holding on to my 3080 for my main rig and already bought a B580 to play around with. If the 9070XT turns out to be good value maybe I'll pick one of those up as well but Intel is the only one currently exciting me.
they will. it will be the exact same situation. minimal performance increases and impossible to get your hands on for msrp.
Still holding on my 3090 too for now. As i need a grafx card with a waterblock, the only question for me is which aib will have one. Wiĺl know more in a month.
This is AMD's chance to take back heaps of market share from Nvidia if they price it right
they just need to update VSR to have AI downscaling and they have a huge winner on their hands this gen. IK damn well RDNA4 will eventually have this support. DLDSR is whats keeping me with NV for pve/singleplayer titles.
If they get the ok from Nvidia, lol. Idk if they secretly work together, but I wouldn't doubt it. These hardware companies are sleezey, even more sleezey than Graphically Challenged's porn stash, which I must say suits this industry quite well.
At the next CES Nvidia should come out with clowns juggling, a man breathing fire and let a bearded women explaing the new gpus. ''It has DLSS SUPREME, That can magically turn your Gpu into a Quantum Computer'. 5 Billion FPS for a tiny tim 2999.99.
Comes with extra Box Greese.
...and if they can deliver in quantity.
well the 7900 XTX are now selling like hot cakes and are temporarily unavailable, so AMD already gets market share at the moment
@ I'm pretty sure AMD stopped making these in October, so while they are hard to buy, it's more due to no supply being left. Part of the reason for the delay in the 9070 XT was to allow the supply channel to sell off all their stock of 7900 XTs and 7900 XTXs.
With the launch of the 5x Series , NVidia has literally pushed the consumer straight into arms of AMD
MSI and Asus just increased their prices for the 5080 and 5090.
bruh they think we are made of money greedy bastard
@@saifwar7251 Right
Tariffs.
@@VoldoronGaming only two companies got hit with tariffs?
@@hydrow6others will follow suit.
I'm going Radeon when these drop if the Price/Performance/Power Draw is right, performance should be good (my older games will still play better) and they will get even better with Driver updates/Game Patches & Optimisations - I don't do Video Encoding or AI stuff so I feel all my recent Nvidia Cards are a bit of a waste - I just need a good GAMING card that doesn't need a Nuclear reactor to power it 👍
Isn't dlaa Dlss better than native blurry TAA ?
Current plan: I have a 7900 XT on order for $650, if the price performance is better on the 9070 XT, I'll have like 30 days from Feb 15th to return the 7900 XT.
i would recommend you just keep the 7900XT
@@utopic1312 We have a time traveler here.
@@utopic1312thats dumb. The 9070xt have FSR4 and a much lower powerdraw which means lower temps
@@thor.halsli it'll get fsr4 first but an upscaler is hardly a reason to buy the GPU but I will give you the lower power draw as that is a reason to buy the 9070xt but if you're looking for better performance the 7900xt is a better buy in my opinion
Probable only14 days to return Computer parts? 9070 will be about $200 more than what u got the 7900 for...
my 1660 ti has served me well for many years but its showing its age, this launch came at a good time for me
Me too. Time for Upgrade.
The 1660s and ti were such good cards. I upgraded to a 3070 but my old 1660s carried my old pc so much
In testing, the RX 9070XT matches the RTX 4080 (RTX 5000 was not out at the time of testing). Its ray tracing performance is impressive plus Ai upscaling. It will be worth the wait with clock speeds of 3.1-3.2GHz stock. Pricing is $549.99 for the 9070 XT & $449.99 for the 9070 non XT. Ive worked very hard with our amazing Engineering Team at AMD on this series of graphics cards.
Are you serious
If this is true they will sell decently but to really take back some market share they need to be 499 and 399
Price will be higher if 4080 raster performance is reached. Think its between 4070ti and 4080 Super depending on some “leaks“. For the price of the 9070xt would say about 799
Hope you're right
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It will be $599.
That would be awesome. IF it beats the 5070 Ti, and it is $150 cheaper, it should sell very, very well.
There is no air quotes for the delay. It is truly a delay. All reports state that stock has been sitting in retail hands waiting for the green light. I don't think retailers would have bought all that stock for it to collect dust in their storage rooms purposely.
No and you can bet they are starting to get pissed off too. I hope the wait is worth it.
The situation is extremely weird. Given the stock is out there, and retailers have purchased it, surely what this card is and how much it costs should be much more firmed up?
I mean. If *you* were running a business, would you buy a load of stock without understanding your profit margin, or potential market?
If your answer is yes, are you sure you should be running a business?
@@VesiustheBoneCruncher I'm guessing the play is AMD is trying to get FSR4 ready. That or they've been trying to get supply ready so that they don't run into what Nvidia is doing.
What reports? Sounds like bs.
@@TheEchelonOne report I saw described a pallet of them in the back room at Microcenter, even as the Microcenter shelves were nearly bare of GPUs for sale. The only plausible reason for the delay is a some sort of driver issue. It is important for AMD that when they do release them, they work, and work properly.
The other day I decided to stop waiting and get a 7900xtx and then they all sold out before I could get one and now they are 5080 prices. So guess I’m back to waiting
I bought a 7900xtx on eBay a month ago for $750, sold it two days ago for $1200. Lolol
@@OctagonalSquare I had one already. Didn't give a toss about this gen. Then it died two days ago. Sold out worldwide. Now I'm fucked. And have to care about this next gen.
Techpowerup has rx 9060 xt specs listed now as well, at 175w 12gb vram rdna4 card. Cant wait to see pricing on these since rumors from retailers outside rhe usa are claimimg 20-35% price hike on 5060 and 5060 ti vs 4060/4060ti pricing
Yes, sacrifice a small % of performance for a noticeable discount ... definitely.
its just not worth it to me until they update VSR on RDNA4 to entail 4k rendering and ai downscaling on my 1440p monitor or for ppl on 21:9 1440p even 38" where the ppi is somewhat in-ideal....A much needed update to VSR for ai downscaling.....is a major WINNING factor for RDNA4. Even in titles with no raytracing or fsr4 support like older/AAA titles. Forza horizon 5 or the hunter call of the wild as examples. Thats basically what you get with DLDSR with NV. Id pay 100$+ just for that feature vs a similar performing amd card...bc the LOD and image quality is a huge boost to QOL when gaming or owning a gpu for 3+ years before selling and upgrading. And helps avoid having to spend on a 4k monitor/tv or even considering a 5k 21:9.
NEEDS MO RAM!! My 7900XTX had 24gi of vram.
@@deemcclanahan yeah unfortunately the 9080 and 9090 was cancelled so the 9070 xt is the toppest in this gen the highest Vram demanding games won't take more than 15G of it but yeah it's hard to buy it if you have 20 or 24 vram
Wait for UDNA
ram is one thing BANDWIDTH is another...and IMO bandwidth is a lot more important than vram unless you have dev/ai needs or play some niche titles where vram is a factor bc of optimization issues or forced raytracing(indiana jones)....tbf i dont really care to play indiana jones or outlaws myself. I think VSR being updated for ai downscaling is a bigger selling point for me...since DLDSR is a huge win for NV. Older titles with zero raytracing or dlss/fsr support is still a win when i can render at 4k and ai downscale to my 1440p monitor the LOD/image quality is pretty astonishing. With no ai downscaling like DSR or VSR(amd)....theres a major performance hit. Regardless im waiting for that 2nm samsung node the generation after this with nv/amd....and the newer am5 chips/platform-chipset which will have higher fabric/divider speed support.
And how much did it cost?
@@anhiirr that's the problem with this 'gen' of ti's, its on the same node, so its inefficient. IDK what AMD is doing, if they are going smaller or matching Nvidia...Its starting to look like a fake gen with fake frames.
If they release it for $499 MSRP. That would give AIB's a little wiggle room say $50 to $100 bucks. So $600 for an AIB 9070XT with 16GB better RT Performance and Better AI implementation with FSR 4. I think thats a Win. Especially if it Beats the 5070TI handedly and comes close to the 5080 in some titles. You cant really beat that.
If it s true that it is 3% faster than the 4080 super, I can not see how the 5070 ti would be faster than the 4080 super with 1300 less cuda cores, lower tdp and lower clock speed, 9700 xt might be the best gpu of this generation with a real price of max. 600$. 5070 ti will not cost 750$, it will be around 1000$, whil 5070 will be around 700$ but with 12gb ram it s a bad card for this price.
@@qwertyqwerty-zi6dr too high. $499 for the 9070 XT and $429 for the 9070.
@@garytrawinski1843 as I said, the real price, not the msrp. 5070 will not be 550$ and 5070 ti will not be 750$ as Nvidia said
No one is going to buy it if it's 100 dollars less than the Nvidia card. It needs to under 500 dollars
more like 699$ if performance will be as 4080super
For me if thats the price I`m going for it
Leaked benchmarks from AMD's internal testing shown by moore's law is dead saying it's closer to a 5080 in raster and beating the 7900XT and sometimes beating the 7900XTX as well as 4070+ levels of RT performance. with AFMF2 + FSR4 that things gonna be beast if it's priced well.
But remember, they'll cherry pick their best titles to highlight this - so don't overhype it before reviews. Pointless. It won't cost less than $600 either IMHO.
@@H-4-D3423 It was a list of like 16+ games, I wouldn't call that cherry picking.
@@bes12000 16 games is cherry picking, that's why the best independent reviewers will look at double that. Open your fekkin eyes man.
@@H-4-D3423 16+ games is a decent sample size, especially if those games are recent releases. You don't know what you're talking about. What's more, who are these "independent reviewers" you're talking about?
@@onilink888 Go be happy with your 26 cherry picked titles. You do your own research, I've done mine. Whilst we're on topic, of course team green cherry pick too.
how does the 9070XT compare then to the 7900 xtx?
Equal in raster but faster in rt
@@VoldoronGamingyep even beats it by a lot in some games
I have an xtx. I've owned vega 64 and 6800 non xt. Both nvidia and AMD lie about leaks regarding performance. It's really, really simple and they use influencers to act as proxies for their message. Just see what the performance is on launch.
@VoldoronGaming how do you come to that conclusion? On paper from leaks the 9070 is definitely not looking more raw power but I can see it being close with fsr 4 and it definitely will be way better in ray tracing. But right now the 7900xtx isn't even that far off 5080s
@@VoldoronGaming NOT equal in rasterization and less Vram but a bit faster in RT if you choose.
I sincerely hope they push the 9070xt heavily on prebuilt retail options. I’m tired and want to buy my rig with one ready to go. Fingers crossed, it's nearing 5080 performance or better.
Thinking of pulling the trigger on a 9070 XT since my R9 Fury has served me well for literally 10 years now. (its time lol)
550 for the XT would be a dream, but I do think it's wishful thinking
it is AMD we're talking about after all
if the 5070ti is a flop...expect the XT to cost around that price point esp for triple connector BEEFY BOIS cards. The leaks were already priced around that range. FWIW VSR needs a much needed AI downscaling update....to be on par with nv/DLDSR. Its a huge boost to image quality LOD and can be ran with dlss quality.....An ai downscaling VSR paired with FSR4 is going to be a huge feature amd can support/offer with RDNA4...for PVE/AAA singleplayer titles....and help push performance into sub max refreshrate fps yields to KEEP frame matched/adaptive sync and a no tear experience a maximized End user experience. Not to mention titles with no raytracing or dlss/fsr support or needs...like forza horizon 4 or the hunter call of the wild....it makes those games look like they got a next-gen update. With a minimal performance hit.
@@anhiirrThe triple port cards will be 700, guaranteed.
I’d say that if the 9070 XT has at least 90% of the raster performance of a 5070 Ti with an MSRP 20% lower or less than it’s going to be very successful. So that would mean $600 or less if the performance estimates are right. The 9070 would need to slide in with a 7800 XT MSRP or less (so $500 or less) from my perspective as the 7800 XT was already a good value.
If it’s in stock it’s gonna go crazy
TBH it just needs sooner than later VSR update...ai downscaling with higher resolution than native rendering. Its an insane boost to image quality/visuals/immersion for essentially FREE. It makes older titles look like they have a next gen update...with a minimal performance hit that you would have if you dont have ai downscaling like DSR vs DLDSR...Once VSR is updated/supported for RDNA4 its going to be a huge game changer for singleplayer/PVE titles and g-sync/freesync per frame matched no tearing fun. UPPING rendering/scale and the inherent hit to performance is actually viable for those titles/non multiplayer settings...bc you are insuring sub/max refreshrate at 240hz-165hz....and a tear free experience with a huge boost to LOD. Then you can use FSR4 quality...or play older titles with no fsr support and still have a BEAST of a gpu to do the job. W.O having to spend on a 1000$ 4k oled tv or 4k oled monitor...or more expensive 5k2k 21:9. And go with a 34-38" oled 21:9 or a quality IPS and enjoy great fidelity on a good cost effective solution gpu/monitor etc.
No it's not, no one is going to buy a 800 dollar GPU from AMD without dlss or cuda because it gives 90% of a 1000 dollar Nvidia card
7:13 assuming the 9070 xt is faster than the 5070 by 10-25%, and the quality upscaling would look similar to balanced DLSS, yes. I’d grab one immediately
My only concern is early driver issues with AMD. Currently have a 6800xt but really want a 9070xt if its going to be $549 like ive been hearing. Just dont want to commit to a trade in that im going to regret
At $550, it would be a must buy. That being said I'm not a fanboy and will buy what is the best deal.
AMD change the pattern? Instead 9700XT they named it 9070XT? 🤔🤔🤔 I'm confused
Currently in my country where its confirmed to have radeon 9000 in stock there is a scramble sale for 22 days (until 3rd of march) to try and sell the old stock of the AMD GPU's.
AMD 9000 series will launch between the 3-6 of march 99% sure.
As much as I'd like the 9070 and the XT have an MSRP $450 and 550 respectively, I think they're going to be more like 500 and 600. I could even see the XT releasing at 650. These prices would be justifiable if recent leaks, especially about raytracing performance are correct, but it wouldn't be great from a market share pov.
I have the 7900XT so I am curious to see benchmarks. I keep seeing it was going to be as fast as the XTX maybe minus a couple fps. I will wait for the 9090XTX or 9900XTX whatever it will be called.
Everyone before AMD lauching GPU: This is just like second coming of Christ, we saved.
Everyone after AMD launching GPU: oh. oh no. Not again!
Like guys, how many times we saw this? I will not hype myself up. I will just sit and wait.
4080 Super owner here... See you guys at the 60 series launch
My 3090 Ti is OK @ 4K in MSFS, but I have to use DLSS Quality, upscaling from 2K to get consistently smooth FPS/latency. If I could get a 4080 Super for around $600 I'd probably upgrade. DLSS 4 Transformer leans me towards nVidia. Maybe once the 6xxx cards are released...😅
Bro I went to jawa and the prices 😮made me run 😂😂the old cards are the same price as the new ones 😂😂
There might be better prices if you go to the desert and find the sand crawler. ;)
Considering Nvidia's complete lack of availability, I don't even think they warrant being part of the conversation.
I havent even been on the pc gaming scene for any gpu launch, only cpu...but i do feel like AMD is wanting to really lock this launch down. Seems like Lisa is sick of Radeon failing. So yeah, it should be a very solid card. I might get one
Could not care less about upscalers how these cards compare at native resolution is what matters to me and many others
$550 would be the price point I'd have interest in purchasing it if the perf leaks are true. Anything higher is meh.
Am curios if you can overclock/volt the 9070 to make it close to the XT though....
It's AMD, of course you can.
only 16gb of vram ? the 7900 xtx has 24gb so will there be a xtx version of the 9000 series that has 24gb ?
Never underestimate AMD's ability to shoot itself in both feet.
I just got a 7900xtx today. I guess if the 9070xt is very close for a lot less it might be going back or sold for cost. Excited to see what happens though!
Still have a 1080. It's a potato but still going strong. My case is missing a side pannel. Somehow everything works. But its time to upgrade after so many years, and I'm getting a 9070xt along side a full new build. Im stoked to toss the potato and have a computer. Anything is an upgrade at this point but this looks great
Still standing by to see if upgrading from 6800 to 9070xt is worth it. One thing I do know is it definitely looks like won't be going back to team green any time soon.
Well I'm upgrading from GTX 970 so I'll get a big performance boos wether I want it or not :D But I am waiting for benchmark to see if it will be batter to go for 5070 or 4070. I don't think that AMD can compete in raytracing yet, even at 1080 (taking some future proofing into account), which is my monitor limit.
If AMD has something fairly decent in the 9070 XT which leaks seem to suggest it's maybe better than the projected performance of the 5070Ti then they absolutely need to get that reviewed before the 5070 & 5070Ti because what always ends up happening is Nvidia will get their reviews in and sure they haven't been great lately but unfortunately buyers will still say "well there isn't anything else on offer so what choice do I have", and even after the 9070 XT is out people will still be Google "Nvidia GPU reviews" then reading/watching those won't have the 9070 XT in if AMD plays this waiting game!
But if AMD released their cards first, and obviously need to be at a way more attractive price than the already known 5070 and 5070Ti prices then the Nvidia reviews would be absolutely DOA, but if they release after then the buys that just glance at end performance chart will just think "ok it's not great but the only option I have it seems"
Basically, AMD shouldn't want to see a single 5070 or 5070Ti review out there that doesn't have a 9070XT on there showing it's faster (if this is right) and it's cheaper (if AMD wants market share).
AMD please take the lead, be bold, give customers a no brainer this generation!
dunno about the overclocking room on amd but the 5080 overclocks quite consistently at over 500mhz gaining on average a 8% to 14% improvement over stock clocks. Which give the 5080 a generational improvement of closer to 25%
I think if you want to play games at 1440p and full ray tracing, the 9070 xt will be an excellent choice
Dude's getting that Teddy Roosevelt mustache goin' on
@@Kryptic1046 He kinda reminds me of Freddy Mercury a little bit. 😁
@@dronos11I can see it.
Hope the 9070 will be great, but eyeing the 7900XTX if it doesn't...if its still available for the same price that is. (Think it would be a good update over the 3070)
Same man I think I’m just going to buy it already. This market seems so uncertain and deceptive.
Love it. Will build a sff the moment these come out.
if it's 200usd price delta which I doubt and has similar raster it would be great regardless of creatures, now fsr4 being any close to dlss3 would be epic, if it was actually implemented widely, but even fsr3 isn't so even if it's mostly a drop in dll upgrade as teased it will still take a lot of time to be useful - which is weird, one would expect all console games to have fsr3 implemented already
"The plan" was actually $899.99.
Still happy with my 7900 xtx. I play all my games at 1440 p @ 165 fps . Dont need more!
hows the whiplash bro 😂
I just hope FSR comes through. Nobody really cares about frame gen, but the new DLSS Transformer model looks fantastic. It's going to be really hard for any current RTX user to go back to something equivalent to the old model.
I guess i did the right thing getting a 4080 on sale two years ago.
3440×1440 beast with a good few years in it.
But if I can get an msrp 5090 I will
$/£450 for the non-XT, 550 for the XT sounds about right to me. Anymore and it's RDOA, if they sell it for 50 less per model, it'd be a guaranteed seller.
I think the 9070xt will easily beat the 5070ti. It will fall just below the 5080 and beat the 4080.
@@andrewdaley4894 sounds about right.
You really think it's going to slot perfectly in the 10 percent difference between the 4080 and 5080?
@@InfernusdomniAZI think it will fall short of the 4080. If it's close though then that would be cool.
@@InfernusdomniAZ If their aim was to beat the 4080, which probably was the case, then yes.
@ I actually think it will be closer to the 5080.
It's worth getting the 9070xt if it's how it looks, not because is 200 bucks less... because it will probably much more cheaper than that in real world pricing... especially here in europe. The 5080 is going for 1400€ and up here. The 5070Ti is gonna be at least 1000€
I’m worried there won’t be any 9070 xt avaialbale because of scalping. They are going to instantly sell out just like nvidia did I think
Ive seen 1 AIB model at 3.1ghz, so for sure could overclock it to maybe 3.35/3.4ghz
My body is ready!
We won't be able to buy these for like 6 months.... The scalping will be insane!
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(Typical AMD Owner Cope):- Who needs MFG or RT or Path Tracing. I only care about native Frames
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I’m not assuming the recent rumors of sky-high performance with the 9070XT to be true until benchmarks prove otherwise. I’m still operating under the assumption we’re looking at roughly 4070ti performance for the XT and maybe 4070 Super performance for the non-XT. We heard lots of exuberant rumors about RDNA3 where what we now call the 7900XTX was supposed to have a realistic shot of squeaking out ahead win against the 4090 in raster and we all know where that went.
$550 and $450 would be excellent if they can swing it…and they probably can. But I hate saying it, it’s probably too optimistic. AMD needs to find a way to miss this opportunity (at least we know that’s what they think they need to do), and my guess is $600 and $500 is the best we can hope to steer AMD into.
The 5070ti will probably average somewhat faster, which on top of still-better RT and yes *much* more widely-used and still-better DLSS, AMD had better not risk trying anywhere over $600 for the XT.
The 5070 I’m guessing will fall in between the 4070 and 4070 Super. Depending on where the non-XT 9070 performs it might actually meet or exceed the 5070 in raster. Along with 16GB vs only 12 for the 5070, counterbalanced by the DLSS and RT arguments favoring Nvidia, AMD actually could probably “get away with” their usual “Nvidia minus $50” shenanigans and $500 will still look decently good. But enough to meaningfully move the needle as far as what people actually buy? That we’ll just have to see.
The memory speed of the RTX 5070ti is 28Gps and has 896 GB/s. It also has 8960 cores, and that is double that of the RX 9070 XT. I need a graphics card that I can use in my current rig and then reuse it in my next rig. For me to buy the Radeon RX 9070 XT, they need to keep the price at around $500, and they really should have considered giving us 20 GB of GDDR6. My concern is if the AMD graphics card will even be relevant in the next few years. Unless they can keep the price point of the RX 9070 XT at $500, I'm out.
I was interested in the 9070XT but it looks like it takes 3 full slots which is a deal breaker for me. Hopefully I'm wrong.
Yeah it has 3 8 slots just like the 3090 if I remember correctly
$450 for 16gb would be great, but I'll believe it when I see it, there's hope though.
I'm changing my 2080 with a 9070XT or a 5070ti. Depends on the price. If the 9070XT is less than 150$ cheaper than the 5070ti i will go with the 5070ti because of drivers/DLSS4.
Earlier I was saying the pricing that AMD would need to do well, but if we’re talking about the bare minimum they need to do, I’d say at least $100 lower than Nvidia’s competing card for the 9070 XT and at least $100 lower than that for the 9070.
Those 16gb ram are seriously scary. I'm still on a 2080, i'm considering a 7900xt or xtx
I'm confused with the new naming. Is the 9070 xt equivalent to the old 7700 xt or the 7900 xt? If it's the latter, then what's the equivalent of the 7800 xt? 9060 xt?!
If it’s 10% less performant I think people will go more for 5070 ti. With that being said I think they are targeting equivalent. Especially with the 4080 super being their target.
Current trends are showing that everything in the 50 series is getting about a 10% bump maybe less. So I don’t even think the 5070 ti will hit 4080 super numbers. There is a legit chance that they could beat the 5070 ti. For me I just built a new computer and I’m waiting to see. This does come down to how much stock is available. I’ve waiting for 2 months by the time AMDs cards come out. At that point I am going to get the one that is available for either the 5070 ti or 9070 xt.
I feel like it's actually possible for the 9070 XT to get pretty dang close to the 5080 in raw performance, considering that the 5080 is only about 10% better than the 4080 Super. If the 9070 XT is even just 5% better than the 4080 Super I don't see how the 5070 Ti will compete. Plus, there are some games where the 7900 XTX does better than the 5080, and the 9070 XT should be at least more performant than the 7900 XTX
@@HDMFanatic Not sure if 5080 is quite in reach but I won’t discount it entirely. I would love to see AMD come in and have something that’s like 5% off a 5080 but at like 500 or 600 dollars. I would be scrambling to get one haha.
@ To be entirely fair, hearsay will only really be just that until the facts are out. I'm not exactly holding my breath, especially where ray tracing is concerned, given that I don't see it possible that the 9070 XT is 4080 Super tier for ray tracing. It'd probably be closer to 4070 Ti Super tier for ray tracing performance. Though for the right price, that wouldn't be a big deal for me.
Well, how low can they go?
From what we have seen so far, FSR4 is not only not comparable to DLSS 3, let alone 4, but it is even less effective than XeSS.
In RT, no matter how much AMD says that its RT cores have doubled their capacity, that would leave them close to the Xe cores in their first interaction, and very possibly not reach the Xe2 cores with the same cores.
I also don't think they will reach the efficiency of the RTX 4000's RT cores and, of course, they will be far from those of the RTX 5000, although any progress is good.
In rasterization it is possible that the RX 9070XT is very close, if not, higher than the RTX 4070 TI Super, but if we average RT and DLSS cores I have many doubts that it will be tied with it (and whoever believes that it will be at the height of the RTX 5070 TI, I am afraid that they will suffer a strong disappointment).
What's more, the problems for the Rx 9000 will begin when the B770 and B780 come out, because it is possible that the RX 9070 XT and not XT series are superior to the Intel ones, but they will be cheaper, so close access to the RX 9060 series and lower, because they are most likely as powerful or more powerful than these but with better performance in RT and SR.
And all things being equal, it is difficult for the RX 9050 series to compete with the B580.
I think AMD is doing the only thing it is master at, giving false expectations and selling smoke and confusing the staff... until reality catches up with them.
That said, I think that the only ones of all the RX 9000 that can make a place for themselves even by scraping a little, are the RX 9070 series... and beware, that in less than a year, they may have to face RTX 5000 super with 3GB memory modules instead of 2 GB modules, which will mean 50% more memory with same data bus, and to top it off, with a Celestial X3 ready for launch at the beginning of 2026 at the latest, if not the end of 2025.
I hope AMD has a plan for 2026 because if these cards are not yet presented, it is what they will have throughout 2026 is going to be very difficult and fateful for them.
I'm hoping for another ATI 9700 pro moment 🙏 it's overdue
What makes you think the 9070s will have more overclocking headroom over the 5070's ? Considering how well the 5080 overclocks ( 12% boost over stock on games ) i find that hard to believe and i haven't hear any mention of its overclocking ability...as for the prices, $549 would be a no brainer. The 9070xt should be ahead of the 5070ti in raster and basically on par with it in RT. FSR4 looks very promising, I see no drawbacks to it so far. $549 should gain back some marketshare, i think they'll price it at $599 though because its AMD, let's be honest...not a horrible price but also not that exciting and i don't think it will sway people from nvidia at that price
Bought a 4070ti super for 880 euro. Is a lot, but a new 4070 super is 730 euro, and i want my GPU to last at least 5 years , so i payed the 150 tax for 4GB of ram. The prices are insane, i didn't go AMD just because i don't see the point of spending that much money for not using new techs in game and go only in raster. But, if my budget was smaller, i would have grabbed the 7800xt, which is beetween 500 and 550 here in Italy. If you have a budget of 600 euro and lower, going AMD is a no brainer. If you have more budget, then go nGreedia (unfortunately).
I need at least 24GB of onboard memory... and amd needs to catch up with nvenc hardware and they need to do a lot of work on ROCm as they're years behind CUDA
You guys need to remember that AMD's Shader Cores work differently than NVidia's Cuda Cores. The AMD RX 7900-XTX beats the Nvidia RTX 4080-Super in Raster Performance with 6144 Shader Cores. The 4080-Super has 9728 Cuda Cores. AMD Cores are NOT a 1-1 comparison with Nvidia Cores.
That being said, we can APPROXIMATELY guess the 9070 and XT's performance by comparing to current-gen AMD cards. So, the 9070-XT is very likely to match or at best slightly outperform the 7900-XT because it has 1000 less shader cores, but extremely high boost clocks in comparison. The 9070 Non-XT will likely match or at best slightly outperform the 7800-XT because it has about 250 less cores, but again higher boost clocks - just not as extreme of a difference in clock speeds as the XT is. Combine that with an expected slight improvement from the new RDNA-4 Architecture and the fact that AMD themselves said they are not targeting the high-end market (5080 or 5090) and you start to get a good idea of what is probably going to happen.
The 9070-XT is very likely to perform a bit worse than the $750 RTX 5070-Ti 16GB but offer a better value in exchange for a bit worse Ray-Tracing Performance and slightly lower quality upscaling. Meanwhile, the 9070 Non-XT targets the $550 RTX 5070 12GB by pretty much matching its performance but offering more VRAM with the same loss in Ray-Tracing and Upscaling at a slightly lower cost. People don't realize how big the gap is between the RTX 5070-Ti 16GB and the RTX 5070 12GB. The non-Ti has 6144 Cuda Cores. The Ti has 8960. The "Ti" branding is not just a slightly faster 5070, its an entirely different class of GPU.
The 5070-Ti will be capable of 4K gaming at high settings with good frame rates. The 5070-Ti will come pretty close to the Original RTX 4080 in performance, but it will not beat it. The 5070 12GB is a 1440p card. The RX 9070-XT will be a card somewhat capable of 4K gaming but will be better suited to 3440x1440p (2K UltraWide). The RX 9070 non-XT will be a 1440p card just like the RTX 5070 12GB.
Is anyone really that surprised? Its literally what happens every single generation. The RX 9070-XT is likely to cost either $599.99 or $649.99, depending on just how close it can get to the RTX 5070-Ti 16GB in terms of standard native Raster Performance. Then the 9070 non-XT will probably be priced at $499.99, to offer a better value than the RTX 5070 12GB with more VRAM and steal away as many of those mid-tier sales as possible.
Theres no way to know exactly 100% for sure, but its not difficult to come up with an educated guess that both makes sense and is realistic by using realistic methods of comparing specs and performance. Come on guys, did you really think you were going to get the performance of an RTX 4080-Super for $500 with no downsides? That is a fever dream - it will NOT happen. AMD is NOT your friend; they are a company - the same as Nvidia. They are here to make money by offering a competing product, not to offer you fever dreams. Have some realistic expectations.
So I just bought an 7900XTX, which means that I've made a good choice, considering the 9070XT is not going to beat it (in raster)?
@baboka2616 as long as you got it for a decent price, then ya.
@@wallacengineering8096 I'm from Europe, there is no decent price, got the MERC 310
@@baboka2616 Well, that sucks...
@@wallacengineering8096 Also, when the 9070XT launches: if it will be 600$/€ MSRP, AIB price 680€ PLUS 25% tax which would make it cost 850€, but probably closer to 900€
Delayed till March.....Now coming early in March. Title had me thinking they caught on to Nvidias screw up and decided to hit them before end of February.
Never ever will the 9070XT cost 550. Although the card might not be as good as a 5070TI raytracingwise, it should be able to be at the same raster performance. The card is made in the 4nm process and thus it has some cost to it, which AMD needs to bring in through price. 9070XT will be around 659 to 699, but not less.
Did they produce more than 60?
Glad i waited. This why im getting the 5700x3d so i can upgrade to this GPU. Target resolution is 1440p and 4k maybe.
Right now, I don't even see the 5090 or 5080 as part of the discussion since they don't exist, lol. May as well throw in the 6090 and 6080 since they have the same amount of those floating around
9070 xt for 499-549 would dominate
if it performs similarly to 5070 ti (-5% at most)
it needs to be at most 599 to be viable
i hope not, i'd begrudgingly buy it at that price
hoping for 499-549
I'm predicting $500 for RX 9070 and $700 for the RX 9070 XT. AMD has no idea how to value DLSS, Navida's market share, and Navida's branding.
They don’t want to blunder and release early and creat a fake demand like someone else selling bricks 😂
I think the most important part is actually having something to buy in stock. Otherwise, who cares what the price is?!?!!😂
Final specs? What are u talking about, cards are already at retailers. The only thing amd is doing, they are busy replacing stickers.
9070 xt @ $550 that is closeish to the 7900 xtx will be a snap buy. the AIB cards overclocked for a extra 5%? yea, ez card to sell
I may just stick with my 6950xt for another couple years
I am long over due to replace my RX580 by most peoples standards. But to be frank? None of the games I play need that much for graphics. Sure it would be nice to have higher fidelity etc, but considering I played the original Doom at 320p? Ive got no issue being at 1080p low, or 720p medium. Sooner or later I will need a 16gb card. But by then they should be cheaper on the used market.
Those specs you listed, have been out for a really long time and they just don't say anything at all pretty much.
Too bad they are continuing to use slower VRAM. GDDR6 is obsolete. They should be using GDDR6X or GDDR7. It's unfortunate they are no longer offering products for performance PC enthusiasts.
Does anyone know what the physical dimensions of 9070xt might be? Like will asus have an astral beheomoth?