That's what I'm saying. In 2014 he feuded with Rusev and he was getting great pops from the fans. It's too bad he lost that feud, because that was pretty much it for him. Around that time is when they could've worked him into some sort of title run.
@@jay17764 , actually, that is easy to define and say. If they had waited till he had a clearly bigoted hate stereotype who had the belt (like Alberto Del Rio), Swagger getting over would have been easier. Or.. if they had let Koslov get higher in the latter.. Swagger, for all his faults, is solid in the ring, but the character they gave him was over the top even after JBL's infamous style without a clear antithesis.
Back then they put the title on people, thinking it gave them credibility. It just took the story of striving to be champion away from them. So when they lost the titles they were not seen as , former champs, they were just losers.
Yes, but the way he defeated Cena in '04 for the US title resonated with me, and I never really liked him because of that. The best out of 5 for the US championship was intense, and the way he just took it on Smackdown! pissed off a lot of Cena fans.
@@mikewitoZero What do you mean? The whole We The People gimmick with Colter was hella over. Swagger was actually ready at that point...but he screwed himself by getting that DUI.
@@TheViper4Life he got over as a tag team guy, but as a singles guy, he was very mid, they mainly just loved Dutch and Cesaro, but in a team, Swagger's weaknesses were incredibly hidden
@@Doshanko He was super over as a face vs Rusev. Swagger does have charisma, the unspoken kind. He was good with Colter and has been great as Jericho's heavy the last few years. It's all about finding the right role for him, something WWE failed to do. In another universe had they waited 5-10 years to debut him, let him grow into his current look and kept him far away from a microphone at all times he could've been decently convincing as a Brock type.
@@mikewitoZero Zeb ruined Jack Swagger when they massively broke kayfabe to stick it to some Fox news guy. In an era when kayfabe was dead he still looked foolish and destroyed any immersion fans may have had..
Good performers can outshine bad writing. Ok performers can be elevated by good writing, but absolutely buried by horrible writing. To be clear, this is in support of your comment.
Plus, just a few months before "WWE" had put the title on Sheamus, who many felt wasn't ready, too. No way they were going down that road just a night after WrestleMania. Swagger only had the title a few months on Smackdown, since he wasn't really even ready to be champion on that show.
Cena is right Jack Swagger is not world champion material. The facial expression he made when he won the big gold belt is so awkward he looks like he doesn't care about winning it
@@LILJAYSO777 oh sure put over a wrestler that can’t talk, was green in the ring, and whose character was “Kurt angle from Wish” that will definitely draw numbers 🙄
Sorry, but I don’t blame Cena for doing that, jack swagger winning the world heavyweight championship or giving him the money in the bank was probably the worst decision ever, I think McIntyre should’ve won or probably kofi at that time
It's crazy to me that they push or put the belt some these wrestlers that aren't that good but they won't push people like shelton benjamin john morrison etc
Cause Vince wants to polish a turd..... if you take a lets call it a 98 and put the belt on a 98 that turns them into a 100 but if you put a belt on a 60 at best then it's somehow a "brilliant idea" in Vince "creating" the "next big thing" does that make sense how I said it......
Cena isn't Hogan, he's shown multiple times that he's willing to put people over. But he's not just going to put anyone over. I love Swagger, but come on it's Jack Swagger lol 😂
Nah the thing is that this is unprofessional and bc of him Jericho had to lose his title and Cena didn't do this only once this man single handedly buried the Nexus
@@satyammysterio4911 personally I though the nexus whole team were awful wrestlers and still John cena agreed and apologized for that saying he was wrong. I still think he did the right thing. He won a match if you can get buried by one lose you weren’t going anywhere in wwe
Cena destroys Nexus: "What an egotistical bastard!" Cena buries Swagger on the mic: "Well actually he's got a good point, Jack Swagger does suck on the mic." Even though that isn't at all what Cena said.
Best for business he buried nexus in 2010!! because his stupid ego couldn't get beat even Edge and Jericho told him to let nexus win and they were on his team!!! smh
@@abikegavin9641the only member of Nexus that had any sort of hope of possibly being a main eventer was Wade Barrett & Swagger deserved it less than probably all of Nexus
@@RuanAntunes7Doesn't matter. The stable as a whole was over. They could have hammered out the details later. Even Cena admits not putting them over was a mistake.
Then fans may have felt Cena didn’t want to lose the belt but today I can look back and say he wasn’t wrong. Jericho should’ve dropped it to someone else too. That beautiful World title deserved better around that time.
@@LILJAYSO777 Dude, Swagger wasn't ready. It was way too early in his career for him to be the WWE Champ. Had it been in 2013/14 when Cena was WWE WHC, Swagger's assessment would have been correct. He was very over at that point. In 2010, though...nope.
“Hey Jack, so, we were going over some of the choices for your new slogan with Real Americans, and we think “we the people” works better for you”… “Why can’t we go with ‘god bleth the United Thtate-th?” “Well, you thee-SEE…”
Dude jack swagger looked like a disney channel bully. I couldn't even take him seriously in rey mysterio's svr 2011 road to wrestlemania. Say what you want about cena burying folks, he was correct here.
They had already made Cena lose a title to Sheamus in that stupid table match. Props to Cena for refusing to be everyone’s step ladder after carrying the WWE brand for years.
Yeah but meanwhile smarks would say he buried him lol but he putted many deserving guys over like AJ, Sami etc. You can't lose every single match to put over everyone and if you do you will become the next kane still feels bad how wwe made kane a jobber.
@@unbiasedguy8636 nah 2016 was the sign of Cena passing his prime years, so it's understandable if he was stepped by AJ, Sami, KO Dean Ambrose etc, he knew the youngsters and upcomers will be replacing him. But in 2010? When Cena really on the top of the moon? Getting stepped by some unproven rookie? No way he can accept it
No, he shouldn't. He was boring then too. No charisma or heat from the fans at all. The only good thing about that storyline was actually Zeb Colter, his manager. Unfortunately, he couldn't wrestle to save jack's ass.
Well, john was right. Jack swagger was literally the worst champion l think chris and jack were good friends as the both are together in aew for 4 years
Literally everybody has given the same lame ass excuses to say Cena likes to “bUrY yOuNg TaLeNt.” Truth is, the guys he “buried” were just absolutely terrible and definitely weren’t championship material. More notable being the Alex Riley situation; who actually gives a fuck about Alex Riley? What was special about him? Nothing. It’s why he didn’t get his title push. Engaging with Cena doesn’t automatically mean total career suicide, it’s just a proving ground and if you can’t cut it then you clearly don’t belong in there.
FAX. They bring up the nexus? They sucked, except for Bray and Daniel, and Wade. They buried their own selves and Cena HAS put over more people than he's "buried". He even let Brodus Clay have a WM moment or something along those lines.
EXACTLY!! I saw a comment saying Cena buried young talent during his us open challenge era, but he didn’t.. he always looked like he was gonna lose and gave the youngsters a time to shine and plus it’s the script.. it’s not his fault if he wins matches
Jack Swagger never stopped smoking weed when he was a WWE wrestler and opted instead to pay the monthly fine for years. That's part of why they never pushed him harder.
He's absolutely right and I don't blame him. Swagger have never drawn a dime, not in WWE, not in aew. Closest he got was his real American gimmick and he had to be carried by an elderly Dutch mantell.
He lost to Fandango and where is him now? not because you are a younger talent means that a top superstar should lose against him, obviously there are exceptions just like Theory right now but not with Fandango lol
Just because you are young and talented in ring, that doesn't mean you'll be loved by the public. It is ALL ABOUT CHARISMA. about how you connect with the crowd. If you draw almost zero heat from them, you can be kurt angle level of talent, you'll be tossed away into the jobber realm swiftly.
Considering he was still huge for another 8 years and even though jack swagger got many pushes, John was right at the end. Jack wasn't meant to be a main card wrestler
Triple H said that about Cena as a rookie. But Vince wanted to give Cena a chance. imagine if Cena was never put in a situation to get better. Imagine if the guy above you can decide that you're just not championship material. We would have never had Cena. and We definitely wouldn't have Roman. Diamonds are created under pressure. and if you want to see if a lump of coal can become a Diamond, you have to give it a chance under pressure. And Jack deserved alot more props.
Cena knew Jack didn’t have it to make it big in the WWE, even Stone cold said “they pushed him too early” on a post some years back. Cena disagreed to lose the title to him because he knew it wouldn’t even do anything that great for his career.
Its been noted that this was his backstage politic era. He squashed the nexus around this time too. Then CM Punk revived that group and led into the summer of punk.
Tf u mean? he was ready to get rid of the Nexus once he became a permanent main eventer. Punk fans always try to switch the narrative as usual. His run with the Nexus was forgettable & the only memorable moments with him as the leader was Orton punting every single one of em.
@@Hellraiser988 don’t forget to add bray tbh those names are all mid af I like Barrett guy is a legit tough man and is funny as all hell but idk seeing what he did after the group broke off was he really going to be the guy his matches were never anything to write home about cena put over people when it really counted just happy cena put over and had good fueds with people like punk, Bryan Kevin owens aj styles and Seth Rollins all people that were phenomenal and proven their worth ten times over cena ain’t a saint but he ain’t no hogan also how come no one talks about stone cold man did the same shit man didn’t even wanna share a ring with wrestlers he thought weren’t worthy
If you've seen Swagger in AEW then you'll know that Cena was absolutely right. I mean its likely you haven't seen swagger in AEW because no one can stand to watch that shit but he definitely proves he's not Championship material.
@@someone0 I was replying to someone who was calling AEW shit just giving back what he gave. Cry less if you don't want someone insulting you don't insult them.
I couldn't consider myself any kind of Cena apologist, but he was 100% right about this. Swagger might have broken Nash's impressive record of being the lowest-drawing champion in WWE history.
He put over Kevin owens in their first match when that guy was a rookie ( in wwe ) and not even on regular wwe programming at the time nxt was on the network I believe and he put over aj styles in their first match cena only puts over guys with talent or mega star power jack has neither 😂 the man did burry some people like nexus and bray Wyatt but let’s not say that for swagger the man is lucky he even got to touch a belt
@@funtimefoxygamer1295 That makes me like Jack Swagger even more. Instead of being dishonest, just say that him being “wacist” is the reason why you don’t like him instead of pretending like it’s something else.
Jack Swagger for me is a superstar who really benefitted from moving into AEW. As much as I am critical of AEW, I love the work they did on Jake Hager. I saw him legitimized in AEW. I felt in WWE they tried to artificially ripen him like a newly budded mango. He looked good but lacked the right flavor
😂😂😂 You serious? Cena would fold him easily in real life. Don't mistake Cena's wrestling character with his real life persona. Cena is one of the most strongest guy there is.
No he doesn't. There isn't a single thing I can remember about Swagger's stint in the WWE outside of the "We the People" gimmick which was carried by Cesaro and Zeb Colter. He was a really forgettable Midcarder who just wasn't ready for the main event scene
I cant remember anyone ever telling me that jAcK sWaGgEr is their favourite wrestler
He was my favourite wrestler for a couple years lol
@@lucasghattas1050 because you miss kurt angle
He was always mine. I still miss him
Not my favorite but I was a big fan of him. I thought he had a lot of potential.
He had potential but the world title killed his character for me but loved his in the all Americans group
WWE tried to make Jack Swagger the next Kurt Angle and it flopped
The Fact Is Angle is a Once in A Lifetime type of guy cause WWE have been triying to make then next Kurt Angle for a while and it always fails
There will never be another Kurt angle
Lets all thank Raven for crucifing Sandman on Kurt's first day in ECW. Otherwise we may of not seen Kurt in WWF
chad gable is very good option
@@amnzash9292 I agree Alpha Academy is a really good tag team and Chad really pulls the whole Heel who thinks he is a face gimmick
I hate when big names refuse to pit over younger talent, but he was absolutely right about this one.
He wasn't
He was
Jack suuuuucks tho
@@mrarmy8744he was, Jack swagger is ass lol
John cena is overrated. Even his finishers are shitty.
Swagger couldn’t even unhook the briefcase, that should have been an immediate red flag.
This.
You do realize this could have happened to anyone right?. The stupidity of some people
Jack Swagger's lisp ruined him more than his skill in the ring.
This is the most stupid comment I've ever read
The lisp isn't the only flaw in his mic game
Nah, Austin has a lisp, and it's noticeable in some cases, it's the fact he didn't have the ability to "fly solo" when he needed to
Dumbest thing I ever heard. That's an opinion, not a fact. I was a huge fan of the all American American American.
His skills in the ring were excellent but you’re right that Lisp probably didn’t do him any justice.
The problem with Jack isn't that he isn't championship material.. it is he just wasn't ready. He got pushed far too early.
That's what I'm saying. In 2014 he feuded with Rusev and he was getting great pops from the fans. It's too bad he lost that feud, because that was pretty much it for him. Around that time is when they could've worked him into some sort of title run.
U have to first define “ ready”
@@jay17764 , actually, that is easy to define and say. If they had waited till he had a clearly bigoted hate stereotype who had the belt (like Alberto Del Rio), Swagger getting over would have been easier. Or.. if they had let Koslov get higher in the latter.. Swagger, for all his faults, is solid in the ring, but the character they gave him was over the top even after JBL's infamous style without a clear antithesis.
Back then they put the title on people, thinking it gave them credibility. It just took the story of striving to be champion away from them. So when they lost the titles they were not seen as , former champs, they were just losers.
He’s not championship material sorry. Tag champ with cesaro sure but singles title? Hell no
"That doesn't work for me brother"-John Cena
He was right though. And he isn't afraid to put ppl over.
Jack sucked lol
Well Jack Swagger suck fr. So, Cena wasn’t wrong though.
*John Hogan
Carlito deserved that push more than Jack
Shelton Benjamin? I've never seen him after wm 26 MITB
Yes, but the way he defeated Cena in '04 for the US title resonated with me, and I never really liked him because of that. The best out of 5 for the US championship was intense, and the way he just took it on Smackdown! pissed off a lot of Cena fans.
@@slulzspot7583y’all are killing me with these names.. childhood hitting me like bricks
@@cjcampbell4799that’s funny, that moment is what made me love Carlito!
Facts
He's not wrong, 2023 and he STILL isn't wrong 😂
To be fair he’s Barely wrestles
@@Dark-Pikachu1 He’s boring asf, over ten plus year career and not a lick of charisma
Dude should've stayed in Bellator
@@Daniel-js2dk He did has charisma, as a bratty douche All American hero.
He was a less memorable champion to be honest I even forgot he won til this video popped up.
Not wrong, Swagger had all the tools to be Champion except one: Charisma. Fans just couldn't connect with him
Even Dutch Mantel aka Zeb Colter couldn’t get him over
@@mikewitoZero What do you mean? The whole We The People gimmick with Colter was hella over. Swagger was actually ready at that point...but he screwed himself by getting that DUI.
@@TheViper4Life he got over as a tag team guy, but as a singles guy, he was very mid, they mainly just loved Dutch and Cesaro, but in a team, Swagger's weaknesses were incredibly hidden
@@Doshanko He was super over as a face vs Rusev. Swagger does have charisma, the unspoken kind. He was good with Colter and has been great as Jericho's heavy the last few years. It's all about finding the right role for him, something WWE failed to do. In another universe had they waited 5-10 years to debut him, let him grow into his current look and kept him far away from a microphone at all times he could've been decently convincing as a Brock type.
@@mikewitoZero Zeb ruined Jack Swagger when they massively broke kayfabe to stick it to some Fox news guy. In an era when kayfabe was dead he still looked foolish and destroyed any immersion fans may have had..
Then when Swagger was getting super over in his feud with Rusev…they buried him like a total geek
He's right and I blame the writers not the performer
Good performers can outshine bad writing. Ok performers can be elevated by good writing, but absolutely buried by horrible writing. To be clear, this is in support of your comment.
Cena wasn't wrong.
When Swagger came back, basically nobody knew who he was.
Cena saw as much potential in Swagger as the WWE fans did
Cap
@@elizabethalvarenga6192 not a lie at all
Plus, just a few months before "WWE" had put the title on Sheamus, who many felt wasn't ready, too. No way they were going down that road just a night after WrestleMania. Swagger only had the title a few months on Smackdown, since he wasn't really even ready to be champion on that show.
Not wrong. He's currently getting carried by a fkin purple hat.
I LIKE THAT HAT😤
Woah bro, be careful...Hager really likes that hat.
I do like that hat, tho
It’s his gimmick and apparently it’s over also he’s loves that hat 😂😂
His character sucks and so does that hat
Jack Swagger: Owen Hart acting like Kurt Angle
It was the right thing to do… John knew he wasn’t ready yet and the win wouldn’t help his career.. it would actually taint it
Cena is right Jack Swagger is not world champion material. The facial expression he made when he won the big gold belt is so awkward he looks like he doesn't care about winning it
Well, he looked an All American according to his gimmick.
@@Abhijeet-pf9zo That gimmick is based on his background at OU
No he wasn’t correct dude what ? That’s unprofessional asf he should have put swagger over you ppl are wwe cena marks 😂 and it’s sad asf
@@LILJAYSO777 oh sure put over a wrestler that can’t talk, was green in the ring, and whose character was “Kurt angle from Wish” that will definitely draw numbers 🙄
@@LILJAYSO777 why are you commenting everywhere? Pressed cause Cena told your swagger he wasn't championship materials
Sorry, but I don’t blame Cena for doing that, jack swagger winning the world heavyweight championship or giving him the money in the bank was probably the worst decision ever, I think McIntyre should’ve won or probably kofi at that time
true
I don’t agree
How is that fair on Chris Jericho
@@tjgotsaucee oh well 🤷♂️
Or The Man Who Carried ECW(After CM Punk, Dirt Sheet & Lashley Left) Christian Cage
"Jack Sweagger lmfao 🤣🤣😂😂😂
It's crazy to me that they push or put the belt some these wrestlers that aren't that good but they won't push people like shelton benjamin john morrison etc
🗣️🔊💯
Cause Vince wants to polish a turd..... if you take a lets call it a 98 and put the belt on a 98 that turns them into a 100 but if you put a belt on a 60 at best then it's somehow a "brilliant idea" in Vince "creating" the "next big thing" does that make sense how I said it......
LMFAOO I would’ve refused that shit too I can’t lie..
@@jinfin221I would
@@jinfin221 but but you don't seem to understand what "would" means
Well , in that point Swagger was not credible as top champion to be honest
I don't know how he let sheamus who just debuted 3 months ago win the wwe championship in 2009. 😶
@@Abhijeet-pf9zo True
@@Abhijeet-pf9zo It was the right choice... Sheamus is way better than Jack
You do realize that older established talent need to put the younger less established guys over to be credible… right? That’s basic shiz
@@childishbuendeeno so John Cena had to put over that charisma vacuum with a speech impediment?
Cena isn't Hogan, he's shown multiple times that he's willing to put people over. But he's not just going to put anyone over. I love Swagger, but come on it's Jack Swagger lol 😂
Dam that hit hard to him. I have never heard about having jack swagger as a fav wrestler.
I would refuse to lose to him as well lol
I don't know you, but I'd rather watch you be champion than him.
Cena was right here, using his top guy status to not lose to a guy that couldn't work it was the right business move
Another triple H
Yaaaawn
@@I41535D not really Swagger sucked
@@brandonmorgan8975 yeah swagger just isn't good. To be a great wrestler you need to have a good character and good mic work. Jack had neither
@@themanofconstantsorrowelia1929 only thing he had was a decent look of he had the right character and worked on his skills maybe 🤔
@@brandonmorgan8975 even then he couldn't talk and really can't act. Remember that face when he won the championship
John channeling his inner Hulk Hogan
That is, if Hulk Hogan was sensible.
Jack Swayger??? I think you mean Swagger lol
Wow the GOAT didn’t want to do the favor for a guy who couldn’t work, couldn’t talk and couldn’t get over?? What a bully
Wait I thought the fans were eating him up back then or am I thinking of someone else?
@@Lore.n thinking of his tag partner Dolph ziggler
Nah the thing is that this is unprofessional and bc of him Jericho had to lose his title and Cena didn't do this only once this man single handedly buried the Nexus
@@satyammysterio4911 man the Nexus buried themselves their faction was lame at the end anyway so it doesn't even matter
@@satyammysterio4911 personally I though the nexus whole team were awful wrestlers and still John cena agreed and apologized for that saying he was wrong. I still think he did the right thing. He won a match if you can get buried by one lose you weren’t going anywhere in wwe
Swagger wasn’t over at the time, Cena was looking at was best for business for both himself and the audience
Cena destroys Nexus: "What an egotistical bastard!"
Cena buries Swagger on the mic: "Well actually he's got a good point, Jack Swagger does suck on the mic."
Even though that isn't at all what Cena said.
Best for business he buried nexus in 2010!! because his stupid ego couldn't get beat even Edge and Jericho told him to let nexus win and they were on his team!!! smh
@@abikegavin9641the only member of Nexus that had any sort of hope of possibly being a main eventer was Wade Barrett & Swagger deserved it less than probably all of Nexus
@@RuanAntunes7Doesn't matter. The stable as a whole was over. They could have hammered out the details later. Even Cena admits not putting them over was a mistake.
@RuanAntunes7 they all had potential but he treated them like jobbers and ruined any little momentum they had.
Then fans may have felt Cena didn’t want to lose the belt but today I can look back and say he wasn’t wrong. Jericho should’ve dropped it to someone else too. That beautiful World title deserved better around that time.
Well it ended with Kane so that’s good
Cena was correct, I was a huge fan at the time and was very very confused at what jack "swagger" was doing anywhere near the wwe
Lol yeah I hated Jack so much
No he wasn’t correct dude what ? That’s unprofessional asf he should have put swagger over you ppl are wwe cena marks 😂 and it’s sad asf
@@LILJAYSO777 Don't tell me with a straight face that you wanted Jack Swagger to be WWE champion...... especially being how he was back then
@@LILJAYSO777 Dude, Swagger wasn't ready. It was way too early in his career for him to be the WWE Champ. Had it been in 2013/14 when Cena was WWE WHC, Swagger's assessment would have been correct. He was very over at that point. In 2010, though...nope.
A lot of people will complain because it's Cena, but nobody can justify Jack with the title... His World Heavyweight run was forgettable
No It wasn’t cena is trash and could never wrestle
@@LILJAYSO777 A better draw than Jack Swagger 🤷
As much as I don’t like Cena it didn’t make him wrong about Jack Swagger, I see him as US champion or Intercontinental champion material at best.
Might be the worst WHC run of all time. Who's worse? Maybe Big Show?
bro the only reason I know jack swagger existed is cuz of that superstar game on nintendo back in like 2012 or smth.
Suddenly jack swagger is favorite wrestler of everyone in comment section
Well, he ain’t wrong. Bro couldn’t even unhook the briefcase correctly. I agree with John Cena here. He just didn’t have it then
😂 I just remembered that he took Forever to get this shit down. Making the end of the MITB awkward.
Wlat about now tho?
Is that a champion criteria?
-- A champion must be able to unhook a briefcase with ease?
Tbh john cena shouldve never won 2012 i didnt get it at the time regardless he has title shots
@@Kiddingyoumust No, but he's also boring and a charisma vaccuum lol
“Hey Jack, so, we were going over some of the choices for your new slogan with Real Americans, and we think “we the people” works better for you”…
“Why can’t we go with ‘god bleth the United Thtate-th?”
“Well, you thee-SEE…”
i’ve been watching wwe for 15 years who tf is jack swagger
Dude jack swagger looked like a disney channel bully. I couldn't even take him seriously in rey mysterio's svr 2011 road to wrestlemania.
Say what you want about cena burying folks, he was correct here.
I was gonna say he looks like Biff Tannen from Back to the Future 😆
I remember when Jack debuted the announcers called him Gary Busey.
You can tell by cenas tone and eyes he meant that from the heart
He's the Homelander of WWE
True
Triple H 😅
They had already made Cena lose a title to Sheamus in that stupid table match.
Props to Cena for refusing to be everyone’s step ladder after carrying the WWE brand for years.
Yeah but meanwhile smarks would say he buried him lol but he putted many deserving guys over like AJ, Sami etc. You can't lose every single match to put over everyone and if you do you will become the next kane still feels bad how wwe made kane a jobber.
Tbf, Cena and Sheamus are friends irl so it made more sense that Cena would help get Sheamus over
@@unbiasedguy8636 nah 2016 was the sign of Cena passing his prime years, so it's understandable if he was stepped by AJ, Sami, KO Dean Ambrose etc, he knew the youngsters and upcomers will be replacing him. But in 2010? When Cena really on the top of the moon? Getting stepped by some unproven rookie? No way he can accept it
@@fireflyric4516 he already putted over Sheamus in 10 he lost to punk and Bryan too.
@@unbiasedguy8636 put*
Cena did the "Doesn't work for me, brother."
You forgot to say at the right place and the right time
@@thewrestlingrebel3108 but cena’s not the right gay… guy. At the right place at the wrong time
@@Tsweeney12584 because cena ain't gay at all. Unlike the guy that wanna crack a knob till he reaches the breaking point.
@@thewrestlingrebel3108 right that’s what I was saying. I was riffing on Hogan’s botched promo.
That we the people gimmick was fire
That would explain why Swagger loves Jericho so much
Swagger should've been pushed to the world title picture when he was with Zeb Colter
No, he shouldn't. He was boring then too. No charisma or heat from the fans at all. The only good thing about that storyline was actually Zeb Colter, his manager. Unfortunately, he couldn't wrestle to save jack's ass.
@@iurietivladut7607 you probably like ziggler
@@tcbbctagain572 lol, the guy is dog water at promos compared to early baby face Roman after Seth's turn on The Shield.
@@tcbbctagain572 and that version of Roman is really bad at promos.
@@themanwhocantbemovedbyatru1988 that's why i said that he should've been pushed when he was with Zeb
Well, john was right. Jack swagger was literally the worst champion l think chris and jack were good friends as the both are together in aew for 4 years
Cena vs Swagger in an MMA Fight please 😹
Swagger called John the most selfish wrestler there was
But cena wasnt wrong
Yet Cena let Punk & Bryan beat him clean because they’re more qualified to be top stars than Sylvester swagger
@@mikewitoZero valid point, the popular theory is cena tried to redeem himself after he buried the nexus
@@cjmcclure6543 nexus run was better than shield crap
@@THECAR99 smokin that good good I see
Literally everybody has given the same lame ass excuses to say Cena likes to “bUrY yOuNg TaLeNt.” Truth is, the guys he “buried” were just absolutely terrible and definitely weren’t championship material. More notable being the Alex Riley situation; who actually gives a fuck about Alex Riley? What was special about him? Nothing. It’s why he didn’t get his title push. Engaging with Cena doesn’t automatically mean total career suicide, it’s just a proving ground and if you can’t cut it then you clearly don’t belong in there.
EXACTLY
FAX. They bring up the nexus? They sucked, except for Bray and Daniel, and Wade. They buried their own selves and Cena HAS put over more people than he's "buried". He even let Brodus Clay have a WM moment or something along those lines.
@@devitt89 Exactly. Only Barrett had potential from the OG nexus, followed by Wyatt and Ryback
EXACTLY!! I saw a comment saying Cena buried young talent during his us open challenge era, but he didn’t.. he always looked like he was gonna lose and gave the youngsters a time to shine and plus it’s the script.. it’s not his fault if he wins matches
truth is, he did the same shit to Roman, and Roman proved him wrong. Cena was wrong.
Good. Swagger makes watching paint dry look like Vader vs Cactus Jack.
Jack Swagger was good to play with on smack down vs raw 2010
Thank goodness. That would have been a business killing decision
A purple hat is more over than Hager, speaks volumes.
A purple hat? Dude Jack has got nothing on Cena never will stop being stupid
Swagger was good as biff in back to the future
The Nexus - Hold my beer...
Dude couldn’t even pull the briefcase off properly and they made him world champion 🤣
Never knew the WWE championship was a live object and refused to be worn
Lmfaooo Jack god damn Swagger. I forgot all about that dude
Jack Swagger never stopped smoking weed when he was a WWE wrestler and opted instead to pay the monthly fine for years. That's part of why they never pushed him harder.
He's absolutely right and I don't blame him. Swagger have never drawn a dime, not in WWE, not in aew. Closest he got was his real American gimmick and he had to be carried by an elderly Dutch mantell.
Don't forget he got carried by a purple hat as well
I mean Cena wasn't wrong-
Exactly
He wasn't wrong for that time frame but in 2013 swagger was world title material instead he lost to Alberto
Woah this felt eerily similar to when Cena told Theory the fans don’t believe him (theory).
I was a jack swagger fan. I saw him wrestle in another company and it was good
Jerico is not scared to put over someone.
He lost to Fandango and where is him now? not because you are a younger talent means that a top superstar should lose against him, obviously there are exceptions just like Theory right now but not with Fandango lol
@@elprincipeamarillo386you never watched 90s 2000s wrestling
Just because you are young and talented in ring, that doesn't mean you'll be loved by the public. It is ALL ABOUT CHARISMA. about how you connect with the crowd. If you draw almost zero heat from them, you can be kurt angle level of talent, you'll be tossed away into the jobber realm swiftly.
Good choice John 😂
Considering how hard Jack Swagger's title run failed I'd have to agree with John
Swagger wasnt ready for a title run
Jack Swagger was a beast. Goofy on the mic but could perform in the ring. John Cena was at the peak of his career & likely didnt wanna give that up.
Considering he was still huge for another 8 years and even though jack swagger got many pushes, John was right at the end. Jack wasn't meant to be a main card wrestler
No that was cena being an asshole stop with this nonsense
Shout-out to jericho for constantly putting over younger talent
But what did it cost? Swagger worst title reign in 2010
@@absoluteking95 He got his bag shout-out to everyone fulfilling their purpose.
@@REALINCARNATE hE gOt HiS bAg 🤡
Jack swagger vs Kurt angle would be a fun match
Jericho had a nice feud with edge at the time I think they should’ve kept the belt on him and made Jack Swagger wait a couple months before cashing in
He was absolutely right. Dude even had the worst reaction to becoming champion that I've probably ever seen 💀
Triple H said that about Cena as a rookie. But Vince wanted to give Cena a chance. imagine if Cena was never put in a situation to get better. Imagine if the guy above you can decide that you're just not championship material. We would have never had Cena. and We definitely wouldn't have Roman. Diamonds are created under pressure. and if you want to see if a lump of coal can become a Diamond, you have to give it a chance under pressure. And Jack deserved alot more props.
And Stephanie Mcmahon.
Roman was always given the opportunities with a golden spoon, what are you on about?
The difference is Cena had charisma and the ability to talk
@@chicomac8450 cm punk would've been a better example. roman was chosen to be the face day 1
@@dawkinshater101 you literally proved my point
Did anyone else notice when it said Jack Sagger? 😂
Cena knew Jack didn’t have it to make it big in the WWE, even Stone cold said “they pushed him too early” on a post some years back. Cena disagreed to lose the title to him because he knew it wouldn’t even do anything that great for his career.
Its been noted that this was his backstage politic era. He squashed the nexus around this time too. Then CM Punk revived that group and led into the summer of punk.
You mean Punk did nothing to help the group and abandoned it to move on to the Summer of Punk
Tf u mean? he was ready to get rid of the Nexus once he became a permanent main eventer. Punk fans always try to switch the narrative as usual. His run with the Nexus was forgettable & the only memorable moments with him as the leader was Orton punting every single one of em.
Jack Swagger wasn’t it chief, a jobber since his debut but was getting pushed like a wwe superstar
Cena has proved he is all about getting people over. If it's not good for business it's not going to happen.
Hahahahahaha, putting people over. Gtgoh. Dudes as notorious for burying people as hogan and HHH.
Jack wanted to elevate his position a little too soon but wanted to use a veteran like Cena as a stepping stone, which is a bad move.
Those golden shovel tactics by super cena
Damn John! What a way to bury Jack 😹
I doubt jack was going to get over anyway look at him now cena wasn’t wrong
@@tubbymontana7090 I agree
I get that alot people agree with cena, but he could have put over swagger and let him improve while being champ.
Swagger had his chance as world champion and failed
That’s not how it works.
We are in 2023 here and look at Jack Swagger in AEW feuding over stupid things. Cena was right.
@@DarkCloud3000 Many people improved as champions
@@darianterrell5689 Moat failed.
I was at that WrestleMania with my mom and niece it was a awesome night
I actually liked Jack Swagger in the early days
Given how many times Cena has put other people before him I highly dout this was the case
Wade Barrett and Mr.Anderson would like a word with you
@@Hellraiser988 orton got kennedy fired
@@Hellraiser988 don’t forget to add bray tbh those names are all mid af I like Barrett guy is a legit tough man and is funny as all hell but idk seeing what he did after the group broke off was he really going to be the guy his matches were never anything to write home about cena put over people when it really counted just happy cena put over and had good fueds with people like punk, Bryan Kevin owens aj styles and Seth Rollins all people that were phenomenal and proven their worth ten times over cena ain’t a saint but he ain’t no hogan also how come no one talks about stone cold man did the same shit man didn’t even wanna share a ring with wrestlers he thought weren’t worthy
If you've seen Swagger in AEW then you'll know that Cena was absolutely right. I mean its likely you haven't seen swagger in AEW because no one can stand to watch that shit but he definitely proves he's not Championship material.
You are right he's more of MMA material where he has to interact less and fight more
LOL AEW is better than the trash WWE puts out.
@@kunal354_ Jake is the type who was better suited for wrestling over in Japan. His legitimate wrestling background certainly has helped him in mma
@@xXSinForLifeXx cliche fan who always thinks everything is a war
@@someone0 I was replying to someone who was calling AEW shit just giving back what he gave. Cry less if you don't want someone insulting you don't insult them.
Crazy that I remember those two events so clearly, considering the years
I couldn't consider myself any kind of Cena apologist, but he was 100% right about this. Swagger might have broken Nash's impressive record of being the lowest-drawing champion in WWE history.
Golden Shovel John. Can’t be a fan of someone who stops an up and comer’s career.
He was right. Swagger was ass. Still is tbh
He put over Kevin owens in their first match when that guy was a rookie ( in wwe ) and not even on regular wwe programming at the time nxt was on the network I believe and he put over aj styles in their first match cena only puts over guys with talent or mega star power jack has neither 😂 the man did burry some people like nexus and bray Wyatt but let’s not say that for swagger the man is lucky he even got to touch a belt
Imagine the face of the company putting over the most boring wrestler on the roster 😂
You know what, you gave me a reason to keep being a john cena fan 😂
Cena put over those who deserved it, Owens, Shinsuke, Balor, Styles etc
Lispy Queen didn't deserve a push and still doesn't.
Jack Swagger Is A Rip Off Kurt Angle I Don’t Blame Cena💀
John Cena is a gay ripoff of Hulk Hogan
@@SpongeBob5000_ atleast John Cena wasn’t a racist lier to get sympathy for losing 💀
@@funtimefoxygamer1295 That makes me like Jack Swagger even more. Instead of being dishonest, just say that him being “wacist” is the reason why you don’t like him instead of pretending like it’s something else.
@@SpongeBob5000_ Who was also successful
@@SpongeBob5000_ Roman Reigns was a gay failed ripoff of Cena until he turned heel
Bro he had a great finisher. What a waste of talent. Glad he is in AEW now
Jack Swagger for me is a superstar who really benefitted from moving into AEW. As much as I am critical of AEW, I love the work they did on Jake Hager. I saw him legitimized in AEW.
I felt in WWE they tried to artificially ripen him like a newly budded mango. He looked good but lacked the right flavor
Cena was 1000000% correct on this one
Bizarre this because swagger is legit and would smash cena in real life
He also would have smashed ratings as WWE champion
Okay? Wrestling isn’t real lol
😂😂😂 You serious? Cena would fold him easily in real life. Don't mistake Cena's wrestling character with his real life persona. Cena is one of the most strongest guy there is.
Swagger was lucky to win Money In The Bank tbh, he didnt deserve to
The problem was that he just doesn't have any fans at all. Maybe a few but not enough and it really shows that Swaggers destined to be a heel
Cena is the real undertaker - burying people unapologetically.
Nah he did the right thing Swagger was never a world title material to begin with & even he was dude couldn't get everyone over & put them to sleep
@@absoluteking95 maybe you're right! I just like to see new guys get a chance and see what they can do
@@DennisVSyoutube the so called new guys are not getting over except for few.
Swagger has more talent than Cena and they both knew it.
Lol, wtf
No he doesn't. There isn't a single thing I can remember about Swagger's stint in the WWE outside of the "We the People" gimmick which was carried by Cesaro and Zeb Colter. He was a really forgettable Midcarder who just wasn't ready for the main event scene