To put into perspective how bad the ranked system is rn. HisWattson did a solo queue to pred while being able to do damage and he did it in 75 games while Sweet didn’t have to do damage and was able to solo queue to pred in 50 games.
@@PacCka_ i nvr said i could or i would 😂 it is still possible though with 2/3 maps being small and smaller maps means more fighting. from what i have seen from olympus and kc, lobbies will get to 8-10 squads left when it is ring 2 closing and you’re already at positive rp.
Shout out the people who were saying "it's not about kills" well there you go now you can hit pred without any, I'm glad we can reach pred without doing anything at all. That's not a problem!
Right. Lmao, these people are the worlds biggest idiots “DurRrRrrrr itS a bR” insert indented head drooling meme guy , smh at the state of the game. Yet I be gettin 16 LP in gold for 3 place and 2 kills 4 assists even tho the game says my placement alone is higher 🤣. Bonuses don’t always track, placement doesn’t even work. Pred with 0 kills and 0 damage.
All the bots defending this system wishing they can reach diamond so they can have a decent badge hoping no one will notice it’s from s17… we’ll notice big guy… we’ll notice.
Sweet is a martyr and testament to the absurdity of his occupation. Poor guy and those like him are caught in a viscous cycle of outrage and pleading for a game to be something it can not be: competitive and consistent.
The moment I see the patch note the moment I think this will happen. People will just rat. You can rat to master easy. Your rank don't mean anything this season. Ratting doesn't reflect your skill level.
This has yet to be my experience, it has been all out aggro 3rd party+++, like it was pubs & full of master/preds in the lobbys for me, grandet I was running with a pre made squad. Normally I run solo, so I do not know if this is a different experience or just more of the same as always!
your rank mean nothing this season but Ratting also have skill level(map knowledge) though, I mean I see Pro ratting to high position so It definitely reflect their skill level
@@zir456 Once players adjust, assuming players are able and willing which..... they're not.. It would actually be a great change. I personally believe that placement is more accurate of skills than just kills. There's a LOT more to the game than just killing people and placements tends to reward that, kills does not. Having said that. I have also said that for a placement system to work there needs to be big punishments for poor play. Bottom half need to have massive -0 while top 3 needs massive rewards. Make it a HUGE difference between the bottom and top 5. Like 500 rp swing.
The thing is.. Sweet and other pros previously said they should make ranked like comp. This is what you get though.. people don't want to play like it's comp because that's boring, so if you actually play ring it's easy to climb. I think we need to give it some time to see if people will adjust their playstyle. I doubt it though, people just want to frag out understandably.
Nononono. Ranked like comp would be great and fun. The reason why it failed in season 13 where it was good was because of all the cry baby's that couldnt get a decent rank that season without having any skill in the game. Apex ranked was always too easy and when they made it challenging, casuals cryd. The games are way more fun when everybody is trying not to lose points. The game has more than enough modes where you can brainlessly shoot ur gun.
@@Sheriko Agreed. Like. Every other competitive game ever has strived to create a system as similar to what we'd see on screen. The playerbase just doesn't understand the game they're playing though. If the players had any semblence and desire to play the game as intended then we'd actually have fun, hectic, adrenaline pumping endgames which IMO are the best part of a good BR. But the community is deadset on this game just being a long respawn timer TDM or some shit. There's plenty of games that cater to their desire, i dont see why they feel the need to force their prerogative on apex. They can simply play another game. BR's shouldn't reward mindless aggression. Placement heavy ranked systems are a much healthier than kill heavy systems. But the major argument that people will use can be summed up as ''well i feel.'' It doesn't matter what they feel. It matters what is.
No, the problem is you only lose 35lp if you die. One game I can push 5 squads and kill them, get a 500lp game. Next 5 games I can die on drop and still be positive on LP. It shouldn't work like that, you need to have an actual risk vs reward system, there is no risk, just requeue and go again.
@@Sheriko Yeah, such great fun. 30 minute games where 20 minutes is everyone ratting or running away from fights. Only fun for very few people who can grind for several hours every day(such as pros and streamers, and kids) and are interested in playing actual comp. It had nothing to do with being "challenging". You sound like the usual apex braindead idiots that think they are pros and everyone else sucks. It was not challenging if you have 2 brain cells. It was boring. Love playing a game where i can sit and have lunch in the middle of it, waiting for end game. Hey, some pros have done that in tournaments even. Ranked needs to find a good balance between placement and KP. Being able to take fights and win fights consistently a.k.a. having skill - should be rewarded properly. Playing hide and seek in a shooter is not the idea of fun for a lot of people.(player base is toxic and sucks but that's a different matter)
@@EmergencyChannel Ahh I see what you mean.. so there's too much inflation because the entry cost is too low? Makes sense, but it seems like the right solution is to adjust the numbers rather than redo the entire system. Probably with higher entry cost people will actually care more about placement
Story of this ranked system: Barely playing but good = High rank. Grinding but bad = Still high rank. Ratting? DEFINITELY HIGH RANK. Get top 5 normally, let's say 5 kp, you get +130 something in diamond. Get top 5 sitting in zone abusing heat shields and med crafting with 0 kp? Guess what, that is still +100. This ranked system doesn't punish being bad nearly enough. And that's why if you watch some of the top preds actually still running through the lobbies is because those people who would've been sitting in god spot in zone, doesn't care to 3rd party fights, even if it's a dumb fight, because if they lose it's only -20 anyway, you'll get that back top 10 next game EASILY.
@Nick so you think it's fair that little 12 yr old Timmy playing hard, getting 5 kp and getting top 5 is at +100 LP while dicklord123 rats in the gas with heat shields as a loba and then comes out of the gas when it's top 3 with no kp, getting +200 LP?
@@OnlyBlix you didn’t watch and it’s painfully obvious, he literally spent 99% the time running to cover points and ratting, keep quiet if you’re clueless lil bro
Lol ain't gonna happen if you're a normie trust me. Idk how this mf did this but we can't it's ridiculous. Respawn shouldn't change anything because this is not normal.
@@shalindelta7 u can def get masters this season just ratting lol. dont need to be that good just need to play for placements every game and avoid dying off drop. i came back recently after year break and got to dia 1 really fast queuing with 2 friends that are generally plat/diamond players. im a pred player but even so getting almost masters with 2 essentially plat players hasnt ever been possible before from what i can remember lmao. at least not with such little effort and total games played
Ngl right now I been in masters lobby since I was silver 2. The sad thing is I’m not even joking. I was literally playing against top 200 preds during my placement games. I’m a master in older season so not too much trouble anyway but still I didn’t play in 2-3 seasons so it was annoying
Raven called it. Band aid solution. They fixed the farmers but gave everyone a hand out to say "tou get to be master and you get to be master, everybody gets to be master". Holy shite. This is sad. Imagine outting in effort to kill people and get only 10-20 points difference from a guy who did 0 damage and had no gun. The ones who hyped this up or thought this was okay are people who say "we should get trophies for participating".
Except the whole problem is the idiocy of thinking kills should matter in a BR. Winning fights should matter because it keeps you alive, but running around ape'ing and int'ing so you can have a nice K/D is literally the reason ratting is viable because all a person has to do is wait for idiots to remove themselves from the lobby. If people were playing for wins then ratting simply wouldn't work because by zone 4/5 there would be too many teams alive to have a realistic chance of hiding.
I understand that EA is trying to make ranked games ALGS style where players land, loot, position themselves and are taking only necesary fights but such low entry fee acros all ranks makes no sense but to make bad players not feel discourage in playing ranked. Classic move by EA here, coping the spenders for the $s. Id either make the entry fee increase with every rank (gold 4,3,2 etc) or make it so only top 5 squads gets positive LP
this system is a joke and there will still be people who will call the people that dont like it bad players that dont understand anything about the game. welcome to the apex community i hope you enjoy your stay.
Imagine all the funding they put into this just to fail this miserably. What is Respawn doing. I really don't see this improving later in the season unless they re-adjust the ranks based on hidden mmr
@@powertrip6426 Except there is something to debate because its not as simple as people make it out to be. Yes, the system is stupidly inflated for what the rank values are and it makes the 'ranks' meaningless, but that's a problem with the arbitrary rank values not with how the system itself is functioning. Respawn could change nothing about how LP works and just shift the rank values or swap to a % based system to correct for that. The actual question about the system, which we won't know for a week or two is whether or not MMR based lobbies result in better quality games.
Bro how much you wanna bet all of these rank changes in the past year where just bc chaotic had 100,000+ rp #1 pred, and you where a masters with 50k rp and still couldn't become pred bc of how much rp everyone had, that's why the next season they changed the ranked system in costing more rp
The system makes no sense. I had a 2nd place finish with 5 or so kills and a handful of assists and got less points than he did for that last match with zero damage and zero kills. Like what?
I still don't get, why they feel the need to reset the ranks after each season. Doesn't make any sense to me. I'm taking breaks every couple of months and end up in bronze. There I'm either demolishing the server as an accidental smurf, or I end up getting killed by another pred/masters player. Till I'm back in diamonds and then the next break comes for me. If they need it to keep players playing for some sense of achievement, that still works with the season pass levels.
My friend thats been hardstuck Plat every single season is sitting in Diamond 2 rn prob getting Apex pred .-. Rat for 15-50hrs Guaranteed = Masters/pred
Him getting predator without shooting shows how worthless teammates are literally abandoning a core function of the game gives you better results than team play, apex players are the most mechanically challenged players in any game by far
Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t this very reason why they got rid of the split because it will level itself out? Like sweet was probably in lobbies with silver players. I mean no excuses that he should be able to do that but like how is that possible
The entire player base prior to this season has had no idea how to play the game cuz ranked rewarded kills too much, sweet was playing against preds that a couple weeks ago were inting everything and still getting pred
Idk why theyd do a flat rate -35 LP for each rank lmfao. It was easy to get out of in provincial matches, even in bronze, let alone in pred with top rank grinders and pros.. they should definitely increase it
new guides on how to hit pred about to be like tip 1 rat in tree, tip 2 rat in bush, tip 3 find a nook or cranny to rat, tip 4 repeat all previous steps
the emphasis on placement makes sense to avoid having higher skill players running down lobbies and if someone wants to rat then so be it. Late game fights should be more interesting once the ratings spread out and people begin to climb evenly. Resetting everyone to the same level is why its so broken rn
nah bruh -35 for diamond is ridiculous, I've been hard stuck diamond ever since I first touched ranked in season 9, I solo que only and this season I'm already closer to masters than I've ever been before and honestly because of how early it is in the split I wouldn't even be surprised if I could hit pred, even if it was just for the start of the season. Its ridiculously unbalanced and broken. I don't even feel any accomplishment from it either. Dying doesn't even feel bad anymore, just a small slap on the wrist that ill most likely make back next game if i place top 10 with even just one or 2 kills.
@@YungSmallington didn't add it because tbh its minor in terms of being able to be fixed in the future but yes I agree the entry costs should be fixed. I am also typically hard stuck in or very near diamond and part of what's nice is actually getting advancement through placement instead of going barely even in the top 5 with minimal kp. Top 4 would break you even last season with no kp in a br where placement should matter most
@@YungSmallington when kp is what matters, there will almost always be players that are more skilled and climb faster because they have more kills. Placing emphasis on placement ultimately makes it harder to get higher because anyone can walk away with kills but only one with the win
Emphasis on placement makes this game boring as fuck. Go prone in a random building corner on warzone bruh, apex was obviously built for aggressive gameplay.
@@kurtshafer9243 Go play another game then. BR's aren't intended for mindless aggression. They're a part of the survival genre. Survival should be rewarded. It's not my fault your dumbass cant think a bit strategically and you cant be patient enough to rotate towards a good spot for a good position.
Pretty much what I saw this weekend, had 12 kills and placed 5th cause of third party just got a few rp then my next match won with 2 kills cause teammates landed very far and that gave me so much rp, like tf??
This is what happens when you reward placement above all. Rat meta. Followed by scan meta. "sKiLL mEanS pLacEmEnT" stfu. This season is gonna be worse than S12 for inflated Masters.
The problem is people are braindead and push fights early and die. These rats are supposed to be killed late game by better squads, but the better squads are pushing fights and dying early so the rats get free LP. The rats are actually smarter than the people with better gun skills, it's funny. There should be 18 squads left in ring 3, minimum, but right now there is 8 squads on average because nobody knows how to play ranked the way it's being designed.
I mean to be fair the whole point of a battle royale game is to be the final one standing... But yeah this season is definitely for the causal players.. to just get into a diamond game I'm pretty sure it's only -26 LP.. literally all people have to do is get top three to get 185 LP compared to five points per kill... Pros going to hate it but the casuals are going to love it 🤷 you'll never be able to have both
I despise how my teammates have been playing lately. Had a teammate run from every fight just to die to ring because he knew better. I just want to play the game and have fun… 95% of us aren’t pros. Camping to masters doesn’t make you any better than a plat who fought his way up.
i hate sweet for this, im solo queueing and almost every other game i get a teammate trying to rat the whole match and i feel its because they saw sweet hit pred without doing damage
good. maybe respawn/ea will stop being lazy greedy fucks and fix their game. or just ignore it and continue to run the game into the ground. either one works
They shouldn’t give any ranked rewards, badges, dive trails, nothing this season. This was clearly a failed experiment which will see hardstuck plat4 players sit on crafters for the next 3 months crafting med kits for master and pred badges.
When everyone starts realising that you don't need kills to rank up.... Then ranked will be good! Imagine an end game with like 15 squads remaining haha 😮
That's the thing right. Right now people will jsut complain and quit. If people actually played the game as intended it wouldn't be this easy. It's just a huge change and the average, overly aggressive, neanderthal wont be able to comprehend ''why.'''
Its actually kind of boring because of how little fighting you do. Wait 15 mins just to get 2-3 kills in endzone. I hate this ratting meta. Whole squads just Valk ult if you break 1 shield.
@@tdestroyer4780 yeah I get that but it's also funny sometimes... I hide in the tree in the last zone and watched 7 teams fight it out.... I won by dropping down and punching the last guy 😂😂 worse season for ranked but also the funniest
They fucked the system up because they want hidden matchmaking so bad in it. It’s wrong and matchmaking should just be with other players in that current rank. If they didn’t match players across all ranks then they could have increased entry cost for higher ranks. You can’t increase entry costs for higher ranks if you’re gonna put bronze smurfs in diamond to pred lobbies with lower entry costs so they can push pros with higher entry costs.
I understand pros complaining coz they make a living from the game but average try hard joes are just salty that casual players can now get all the fancy badges they grinded for days with minimal effort🤣
The fact that he has a 2 Winstrea and a 10% winrate is crazy
He’s not on a new acc lol
tripods were the first na team to get pred
@@Dudeits3amhis first two games doing this were wins
@@KevinZePanda and? Has nothing to do with his 10% wins. Lul
@@Dudeits3am I think I may have misunderstood your initial comment? I cant tell what you were even trying to imply.
one of the Apex moments of all time
It is truly a classic
fr, ball dropped after a 3 season waiting for the pass
If they not change the system we need to try mid season
best*
To put into perspective how bad the ranked system is rn. HisWattson did a solo queue to pred while being able to do damage and he did it in 75 games while Sweet didn’t have to do damage and was able to solo queue to pred in 50 games.
it doesn't matter you'll never reach pred
You can actually make it to pred with your first ten qualifying games alone. The ranked designers really fucked this up.
@@kabeltelevizio whatever helps you sleep at night
@@PacCka_ seems like your parents never hugged you, mate.
@@PacCka_ i nvr said i could or i would 😂 it is still possible though with 2/3 maps being small and smaller maps means more fighting. from what i have seen from olympus and kc, lobbies will get to 8-10 squads left when it is ring 2 closing and you’re already at positive rp.
"This is a shooting game not a looting game" MandeDad 2022
it’s now a hide and seek game
@@lostinthesauce6385 Prop hunt, you mean?
its a br winning is literally the entire point😂
@@Awaks i mean its not really props it is more like hide and seek
Everyone: complaining
Some of us: my time has come lol
Real talk lmaoo
MOST
The badges this season will mean absolutely nothing lmao
@@redandsoulles132 sadly they look just like every other badge of every other season
@@SubKiller season 12 too but everyone knows it doesn't mean anything. This season will be more of a joke than season 12 tho.
Shout out the people who were saying "it's not about kills" well there you go now you can hit pred without any, I'm glad we can reach pred without doing anything at all. That's not a problem!
Right. Lmao, these people are the worlds biggest idiots “DurRrRrrrr itS a bR” insert indented head drooling meme guy , smh at the state of the game. Yet I be gettin 16 LP in gold for 3 place and 2 kills 4 assists even tho the game says my placement alone is higher 🤣. Bonuses don’t always track, placement doesn’t even work. Pred with 0 kills and 0 damage.
@@pf4934 I mean I don't even expect remotely close to perfection, but this is fucking dumb. Honestly I'm starting to hate this dumbass game.
Go try it then bruh, you'll never do it.
@@shalindelta7 rat alert
Spoken like a true gold player lmao 😂
All the bots defending this system wishing they can reach diamond so they can have a decent badge hoping no one will notice it’s from s17… we’ll notice big guy… we’ll notice.
no one is going to remember what the S17 ranked badge looked liked after a few seasons 😂
@@viktordelacroix6208 everyone that plays apex know the badges bro
who even unironically uses ranked badges if they aren't pred LMAO
@@9ineee me who has 3500hrs, been here since s0, has no fucking clue which badge is from which season.
lol mr goldstuck
If you don’t make it to pred within the next week, you’re not making it this season 🤣 theyll be at 100K points next week.
Exactly
I think that's what the system is aiming for hopefully
How the fuck did he get 400LP in that first clip ? There was no explanation in the matcg result.
@@shalindelta7 bruh it doesn't make no sense fr
@@shalindelta7 Diamond to pred rank up bonus
Entry cost: -35
Match Placement #3: +185
Bonus: 0
Ladder points earned: 400???
Seems legit. This is Arenas all over again
"The fact that he got to pred before the people who are actually shooting their guns" me out here shooting my gun guess I'm playing the game wrong 😅
Explain how he got 400 LP.
Truly an Apex Legends experience.
Sweet is a martyr and testament to the absurdity of his occupation. Poor guy and those like him are caught in a viscous cycle of outrage and pleading for a game to be something it can not be: competitive and consistent.
The moment I see the patch note the moment I think this will happen.
People will just rat. You can rat to master easy.
Your rank don't mean anything this season. Ratting doesn't reflect your skill level.
This has yet to be my experience, it has been all out aggro 3rd party+++, like it was pubs & full of master/preds in the lobbys for me, grandet I was running with a pre made squad. Normally I run solo, so I do not know if this is a different experience or just more of the same as always!
@@bergdk237 I believe they changed the system. If you’re in a pre-made you’ll fight tougher/pre-made teams too
@@TheS00th no shot, I mean I've seen some master and pred trails but it's really pretty easy. Hell it's easier than pubs right now.
your rank mean nothing this season but Ratting also have skill level(map knowledge) though, I mean I see Pro ratting to high position so It definitely reflect their skill level
@@zir456 Once players adjust, assuming players are able and willing which..... they're not.. It would actually be a great change. I personally believe that placement is more accurate of skills than just kills. There's a LOT more to the game than just killing people and placements tends to reward that, kills does not.
Having said that. I have also said that for a placement system to work there needs to be big punishments for poor play. Bottom half need to have massive -0 while top 3 needs massive rewards. Make it a HUGE difference between the bottom and top 5. Like 500 rp swing.
This is the best thing that ever fucking happened to the solo Q community. My brain dead teammates can now fly off the map and it won’t affect me
That screen shot literally explains all of rank this season 😂
The thing is.. Sweet and other pros previously said they should make ranked like comp. This is what you get though.. people don't want to play like it's comp because that's boring, so if you actually play ring it's easy to climb. I think we need to give it some time to see if people will adjust their playstyle. I doubt it though, people just want to frag out understandably.
Nononono. Ranked like comp would be great and fun. The reason why it failed in season 13 where it was good was because of all the cry baby's that couldnt get a decent rank that season without having any skill in the game. Apex ranked was always too easy and when they made it challenging, casuals cryd.
The games are way more fun when everybody is trying not to lose points. The game has more than enough modes where you can brainlessly shoot ur gun.
@@Sheriko Agreed. Like. Every other competitive game ever has strived to create a system as similar to what we'd see on screen. The playerbase just doesn't understand the game they're playing though. If the players had any semblence and desire to play the game as intended then we'd actually have fun, hectic, adrenaline pumping endgames which IMO are the best part of a good BR. But the community is deadset on this game just being a long respawn timer TDM or some shit.
There's plenty of games that cater to their desire, i dont see why they feel the need to force their prerogative on apex. They can simply play another game. BR's shouldn't reward mindless aggression. Placement heavy ranked systems are a much healthier than kill heavy systems. But the major argument that people will use can be summed up as ''well i feel.'' It doesn't matter what they feel. It matters what is.
No, the problem is you only lose 35lp if you die. One game I can push 5 squads and kill them, get a 500lp game. Next 5 games I can die on drop and still be positive on LP. It shouldn't work like that, you need to have an actual risk vs reward system, there is no risk, just requeue and go again.
@@Sheriko Yeah, such great fun. 30 minute games where 20 minutes is everyone ratting or running away from fights.
Only fun for very few people who can grind for several hours every day(such as pros and streamers, and kids) and are interested in playing actual comp.
It had nothing to do with being "challenging". You sound like the usual apex braindead idiots that think they are pros and everyone else sucks.
It was not challenging if you have 2 brain cells. It was boring. Love playing a game where i can sit and have lunch in the middle of it, waiting for end game. Hey, some pros have done that in tournaments even.
Ranked needs to find a good balance between placement and KP. Being able to take fights and win fights consistently a.k.a. having skill - should be rewarded properly. Playing hide and seek in a shooter is not the idea of fun for a lot of people.(player base is toxic and sucks but that's a different matter)
@@EmergencyChannel Ahh I see what you mean.. so there's too much inflation because the entry cost is too low? Makes sense, but it seems like the right solution is to adjust the numbers rather than redo the entire system. Probably with higher entry cost people will actually care more about placement
Story of this ranked system: Barely playing but good = High rank. Grinding but bad = Still high rank. Ratting? DEFINITELY HIGH RANK. Get top 5 normally, let's say 5 kp, you get +130 something in diamond. Get top 5 sitting in zone abusing heat shields and med crafting with 0 kp? Guess what, that is still +100.
This ranked system doesn't punish being bad nearly enough. And that's why if you watch some of the top preds actually still running through the lobbies is because those people who would've been sitting in god spot in zone, doesn't care to 3rd party fights, even if it's a dumb fight, because if they lose it's only -20 anyway, you'll get that back top 10 next game EASILY.
@Nick so you think it's fair that little 12 yr old Timmy playing hard, getting 5 kp and getting top 5 is at +100 LP while dicklord123 rats in the gas with heat shields as a loba and then comes out of the gas when it's top 3 with no kp, getting +200 LP?
sweet still has similar damage as nick in a normal pred split😂😂
Fax
nick not able to use linear controller aa is crazy. AA in other games may be balanced but the AA in apex is absurdly aimbotty
APEX LEGENDS ❌
RATTING LEGENDS ✅
I bet sweet with 0 dmg still played better then most of us....
Agree
Nope he just sat back and ratted for the majority of it while telling team mates where rat spots were
Sure. His IGL skill is already a big team buff.
How did he get 400 LP ???
@@OnlyBlix you didn’t watch and it’s painfully obvious, he literally spent 99% the time running to cover points and ratting, keep quiet if you’re clueless lil bro
Well, finally it's time to get masters
Lol ain't gonna happen if you're a normie trust me. Idk how this mf did this but we can't it's ridiculous. Respawn shouldn't change anything because this is not normal.
@@shalindelta7 well i just reach plat, no with 0 damage, just a few wins but mostly of the time afk
@@renzoandreherbasescobar8613 proof ? Upload a video of it.
@@renzoandreherbasescobar8613 yeah I would like to see the proof if you don’t mind
@@shalindelta7 u can def get masters this season just ratting lol. dont need to be that good just need to play for placements every game and avoid dying off drop. i came back recently after year break and got to dia 1 really fast queuing with 2 friends that are generally plat/diamond players. im a pred player but even so getting almost masters with 2 essentially plat players hasnt ever been possible before from what i can remember lmao. at least not with such little effort and total games played
Last season was actually a challenge to rank up once you hit diamond 3 that shit was throwing you in all masters lobbies
Ngl right now I been in masters lobby since I was silver 2. The sad thing is I’m not even joking. I was literally playing against top 200 preds during my placement games. I’m a master in older season so not too much trouble anyway but still I didn’t play in 2-3 seasons so it was annoying
Lol that’s because everyone is masters the masters your seeing is really hardstuck d4s bro
Nick says there’s a problem with new ranked. Like yea no shit if you were the 7th pred 😂😂
Tripods started the ranked grind earlier than others. So made sense they'd get top 10 spots before others.
I’m bout to get my first masters trail boys 😎
Me too!!!
So what's the method? Sit in storm for how long? And craft meds or what?
@Brandon Coleman pretty much .. play Loba or Crypto
Ayo same lmao
Players "ranked is broke"
Respawn " we hear you. So we going make it so broke so you know what broke truly is"....
If this is three months of Apex fucking devs, deciding how to remove should be there is no way in hell that this game is surviving 20 years.
Let that man cook.. thats legit harder than actually fighting lol..
Raven called it. Band aid solution. They fixed the farmers but gave everyone a hand out to say "tou get to be master and you get to be master, everybody gets to be master". Holy shite. This is sad. Imagine outting in effort to kill people and get only 10-20 points difference from a guy who did 0 damage and had no gun. The ones who hyped this up or thought this was okay are people who say "we should get trophies for participating".
Except the whole problem is the idiocy of thinking kills should matter in a BR. Winning fights should matter because it keeps you alive, but running around ape'ing and int'ing so you can have a nice K/D is literally the reason ratting is viable because all a person has to do is wait for idiots to remove themselves from the lobby. If people were playing for wins then ratting simply wouldn't work because by zone 4/5 there would be too many teams alive to have a realistic chance of hiding.
lulu does this every split why is this a shock now
somebody know any thing hahaha
people forget battle royal is about survival not straight uf killstreqks and 20bombs
I understand that EA is trying to make ranked games ALGS style where players land, loot, position themselves and are taking only necesary fights but such low entry fee acros all ranks makes no sense but to make bad players not feel discourage in playing ranked. Classic move by EA here, coping the spenders for the $s. Id either make the entry fee increase with every rank (gold 4,3,2 etc) or make it so only top 5 squads gets positive LP
The entry cost should be relative to the amount of people you queue with imo
I just dont know how the people making these changes ever got a job
this system is a joke and there will still be people who will call the people that dont like it bad players that dont understand anything about the game.
welcome to the apex community i hope you enjoy your stay.
This really shouldn't be a debate at all but some ppl just like to argue. You can't look at this and say this is a good ranked system
Imagine all the funding they put into this just to fail this miserably. What is Respawn doing. I really don't see this improving later in the season unless they re-adjust the ranks based on hidden mmr
Rank is trash I was wondering why I wasn't getting points for kills early in the game
@@kavid8120 dude.
its shit
@@powertrip6426 Except there is something to debate because its not as simple as people make it out to be. Yes, the system is stupidly inflated for what the rank values are and it makes the 'ranks' meaningless, but that's a problem with the arbitrary rank values not with how the system itself is functioning. Respawn could change nothing about how LP works and just shift the rank values or swap to a % based system to correct for that.
The actual question about the system, which we won't know for a week or two is whether or not MMR based lobbies result in better quality games.
Increase entry cost bring back kp
Bro how much you wanna bet all of these rank changes in the past year where just bc chaotic had 100,000+ rp #1 pred, and you where a masters with 50k rp and still couldn't become pred bc of how much rp everyone had, that's why the next season they changed the ranked system in costing more rp
The system makes no sense. I had a 2nd place finish with 5 or so kills and a handful of assists and got less points than he did for that last match with zero damage and zero kills. Like what?
This shit is heartbreaking. 😞
and they say the ranking system was better than the previous ranking system
I still don't get, why they feel the need to reset the ranks after each season. Doesn't make any sense to me. I'm taking breaks every couple of months and end up in bronze. There I'm either demolishing the server as an accidental smurf, or I end up getting killed by another pred/masters player. Till I'm back in diamonds and then the next break comes for me. If they need it to keep players playing for some sense of achievement, that still works with the season pass levels.
My friend thats been hardstuck Plat every single season is sitting in Diamond 2 rn prob getting Apex pred .-. Rat for 15-50hrs Guaranteed = Masters/pred
Him getting predator without shooting shows how worthless teammates are literally abandoning a core function of the game gives you better results than team play, apex players are the most mechanically challenged players in any game by far
Still apex ranked doesn’t prove your skill
@MrCaptcha123 at this point, video evidence I don’t think apex ranked will ever be able to actually determine your skill level
Especially with this rank system, Definitely yes
@@Candyyycoatedlies 💯🗣️
@@Moody15 true, many people rank look sus
@Rajon Rondo leaving fragment east with 10 kills and 2k damage.
Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t this very reason why they got rid of the split because it will level itself out? Like sweet was probably in lobbies with silver players. I mean no excuses that he should be able to do that but like how is that possible
The entire player base prior to this season has had no idea how to play the game cuz ranked rewarded kills too much, sweet was playing against preds that a couple weeks ago were inting everything and still getting pred
Idk why theyd do a flat rate -35 LP for each rank lmfao. It was easy to get out of in provincial matches, even in bronze, let alone in pred with top rank grinders and pros.. they should definitely increase it
new guides on how to hit pred about to be like tip 1 rat in tree, tip 2 rat in bush, tip 3 find a nook or cranny to rat, tip 4 repeat all previous steps
here we go once again with the pros wanting to ruin the game and constantly complain
I guess everyone's a pred now
Can't. It will be like 50% Masters and Pred only for the top 750 as always.
Then here I am 50 games and silver 2 😂😂😂
Finally some chance for me to get into Diamond / Master!
Wait where is Hal? is that his new set up or stream room? thats sick
They should change ranked back to season 13 ranked
I was qued with 97 pred who said I hide in bush
the emphasis on placement makes sense to avoid having higher skill players running down lobbies and if someone wants to rat then so be it. Late game fights should be more interesting once the ratings spread out and people begin to climb evenly. Resetting everyone to the same level is why its so broken rn
nah bruh -35 for diamond is ridiculous, I've been hard stuck diamond ever since I first touched ranked in season 9, I solo que only and this season I'm already closer to masters than I've ever been before and honestly because of how early it is in the split I wouldn't even be surprised if I could hit pred, even if it was just for the start of the season. Its ridiculously unbalanced and broken. I don't even feel any accomplishment from it either. Dying doesn't even feel bad anymore, just a small slap on the wrist that ill most likely make back next game if i place top 10 with even just one or 2 kills.
@@YungSmallington didn't add it because tbh its minor in terms of being able to be fixed in the future but yes I agree the entry costs should be fixed. I am also typically hard stuck in or very near diamond and part of what's nice is actually getting advancement through placement instead of going barely even in the top 5 with minimal kp. Top 4 would break you even last season with no kp in a br where placement should matter most
@@YungSmallington when kp is what matters, there will almost always be players that are more skilled and climb faster because they have more kills. Placing emphasis on placement ultimately makes it harder to get higher because anyone can walk away with kills but only one with the win
Emphasis on placement makes this game boring as fuck. Go prone in a random building corner on warzone bruh, apex was obviously built for aggressive gameplay.
@@kurtshafer9243 Go play another game then. BR's aren't intended for mindless aggression. They're a part of the survival genre. Survival should be rewarded. It's not my fault your dumbass cant think a bit strategically and you cant be patient enough to rotate towards a good spot for a good position.
I feel like the system would be good If people wouldnt abuse it
Are they aloud to change it ?
Pretty much what I saw this weekend, had 12 kills and placed 5th cause of third party just got a few rp then my next match won with 2 kills cause teammates landed very far and that gave me so much rp, like tf??
How did he get 400 ladder points!! 125 for 3rd place, were did the rest come from??
Hidden MMR is really something special
Welp its confirmed I'm going back to main caustic and I'm going to rat till I hit diamond again lol
This is what happens when you reward placement above all. Rat meta. Followed by scan meta.
"sKiLL mEanS pLacEmEnT" stfu. This season is gonna be worse than S12 for inflated Masters.
Just Dont play cry baby❤️
@@thiagosilvarodri7193 I bet you're so hyped to get carried to Plat 4 for the first time ever.
@@TommyTombstone yes cry baby ❤️
@@thiagosilvarodri7193 Call me baby one more time and imma light some candles.
The problem is people are braindead and push fights early and die. These rats are supposed to be killed late game by better squads, but the better squads are pushing fights and dying early so the rats get free LP. The rats are actually smarter than the people with better gun skills, it's funny. There should be 18 squads left in ring 3, minimum, but right now there is 8 squads on average because nobody knows how to play ranked the way it's being designed.
I mean to be fair the whole point of a battle royale game is to be the final one standing... But yeah this season is definitely for the causal players.. to just get into a diamond game I'm pretty sure it's only -26 LP.. literally all people have to do is get top three to get 185 LP compared to five points per kill... Pros going to hate it but the casuals are going to love it 🤷 you'll never be able to have both
Everyone trying this now
real question is how tf is sweet getting wins doing absolutely nothing his teammates mustve been insane 😭
Probably the buddy system matchmaking treating sweet as a bot and making a decent player carry him.
I watched him once, he played as crypto and gave info and commands to his teammates so they could win fights.
I despise how my teammates have been playing lately. Had a teammate run from every fight just to die to ring because he knew better. I just want to play the game and have fun… 95% of us aren’t pros. Camping to masters doesn’t make you any better than a plat who fought his way up.
i hate this rank system
So this is the "fixed" rank huh
was that valkyrie actually braindead or what
I watched him live it was so fun
How did he get so much LP for doing nothing ?
@shalindelta7 getting assist by scanning people as crypto and revives and just placing high
It's called give players a reason to fight
Maybe Nick has a chance to solo q masters now
They should just make top ten gives you zero and you get bonus LP for kills and it would be great imo
I agree..
i hate sweet for this, im solo queueing and almost every other game i get a teammate trying to rat the whole match and i feel its because they saw sweet hit pred without doing damage
good. maybe respawn/ea will stop being lazy greedy fucks and fix their game. or just ignore it and continue to run the game into the ground. either one works
“Fixed ranked” best joke of 2023
They shouldn’t give any ranked rewards, badges, dive trails, nothing this season. This was clearly a failed experiment which will see hardstuck plat4 players sit on crafters for the next 3 months crafting med kits for master and pred badges.
damn, I get the matchmaking issues but let people enjoy their trails and rewards lmao
so much for positive vibes
@@kingusagi9186 Why in the fuck would I be positive? You’re not a king of anything.
Because "ranked" is dog poop and doesn't mean sh1t. Every match, even Bronze, has Preds, and is rigged.
wait til everyone realises it’s camp to masters all the bots will be sitting in buildings shitting themselves
how can he jump from dia to pred instantly? why is the valk gold 2 in a dia/master/pred lobby?
People only go Dia> Master when all 750 predators are there. These streamers normally hit pred earlier
Proof that being a Predator means nothing.
It did mean smth. Now it doesn't.
When everyone starts realising that you don't need kills to rank up.... Then ranked will be good! Imagine an end game with like 15 squads remaining haha 😮
That's the thing right. Right now people will jsut complain and quit. If people actually played the game as intended it wouldn't be this easy. It's just a huge change and the average, overly aggressive, neanderthal wont be able to comprehend ''why.'''
algs every ranked game hell yeah baby
@@afficiopedal4325 yeah would be great!
Its actually kind of boring because of how little fighting you do. Wait 15 mins just to get 2-3 kills in endzone. I hate this ratting meta. Whole squads just Valk ult if you break 1 shield.
@@tdestroyer4780 yeah I get that but it's also funny sometimes... I hide in the tree in the last zone and watched 7 teams fight it out.... I won by dropping down and punching the last guy 😂😂 worse season for ranked but also the funniest
since i cant play ranked or Apex in general (because of a big packet loss problem thx EA) this is perfect. now i dont have to leave every ranked game
It’s wild I was talking about this challenge when season started with some of the pub peeps I was playing with yesterday
That...shouldn't be a thing. We gonna have a S13 repeat with S12 master trails everywhere
Sweet also isn't just any player, doubt everyone could do this, but still a problem
Anyone that gets a Pred badge this season should not be proud of it. Just like season two Pred badge with the bronze lobby glitch its not a flex.
Hey I have an idea, maybe we should have just implemented the 1 ress per KP😅 and are we not going to talk about why no damage = Diamond = gold...
Can someone explain how he’s getting 400 LP for top five with no kills or assist.
big chunk of that was bonus for ranking up, probably extra 200 or more for hitting pred.
@@boobhoop5671 ohh yea the promotion bonus. Thanks.
They fucked the system up because they want hidden matchmaking so bad in it. It’s wrong and matchmaking should just be with other players in that current rank. If they didn’t match players across all ranks then they could have increased entry cost for higher ranks. You can’t increase entry costs for higher ranks if you’re gonna put bronze smurfs in diamond to pred lobbies with lower entry costs so they can push pros with higher entry costs.
The fact that any gold players could get pred scares me
They most likely won't. Do the math. Entry cost: -35 Match Placement #3: +185 Bonus: 0 Ladder points earned: 400???
Even with a higher entry fee can’t you still 🐀 you’re way to the top ?
Just bring back the Season two ranked system....
Let’s goooo just like it started it burn and crashed
time to hit pred boyz
Definitely going to be trying this lol
Season 12 vibes anyone?
Season 14 was the best every one hard stuck plat
Now everyone is ratting not doing anything the whole match, not even being with teammates, thinking they will get pred also 😢
Which is the point, even now 2 weeks post launch its substantially harder to recreate this, in a month it'll be nearly impossible
Meanwhile I've played 80 games to his 50 and more wins and more top 10s and I'm in gold...
I’ll see you all in 40 games
They turned a shooter game into a hide n seek game. Congrats apex on having the #1 worst ranked system out of all games.
Well guys good luck to everybody
I understand pros complaining coz they make a living from the game but average try hard joes are just salty that casual players can now get all the fancy badges they grinded for days with minimal effort🤣