Thank you. I am so enjoying this, chilling with a nice glass of red wine. I can never get enough of train trips in New Zealand. This is a particularly beautiful one. Hope you had a happy Christmas.
Hello Anna, I'm glad you enjoyed the video, it was nice to get back over to New Zealand after the enforced break. I'd rather have celebrated Christmas in New Zealand in glorious summer sunshine, it's wet, cold and windy over here in the UK. Happy New Year. Tim.
You live in a nice part of the world and visiting the Manawatu Gorge has become more difficult now that the road has closed. I'm glad you enjoyed the video and I'm sure the guys at Steam Incorporated would love to welcome you aboard one of their trains. You can find a link to their website in the video description. Cheers.Tim.
Very nice! I liked how you "looked around" every now and then, kind of like you were riding the train as a passenger rather than just looking straight ahead all of the time.
Hello Mike, I'm pleased you enjoyed the additional side views. This is one of my favourite train rides and the Steam Incorporated guys go the extra mile to make sure everyone enjoys their day out 😊.
It's one of my favourite New Zealand rail trips and there are only 3 or 4 passenger trains a year through the gorge making it a trip rarely featured on You Tube, I'm glad you enjoyed it Cheers. Tim.
Very interesting, Tim. On my infrequent trips to the North Island, I've never been through the gorge. It looks quite hairy, and not for the faint-hearted, as you say, and that includes me these days! Thank you!
Hello Jim, passenger trains through the gorge these days are few and far between, those that do run are usually special trains put on by Steam Incorporated. It's a ride to be remembered. I'm glad you enjoyed it.
Hi Jim, I'm glad you enjoyed the ride, if you go back to NZ you might be able to time your visit to coincide with one of these tours. Please click on this link to see what's on offer in the New Year - www.steaminc.org.nz/ . All the best from a wet and windy UK.
Its great to see train cab view rides here in New Zealand. I have seen a few from U.K., Croatia, Montenegro, Germany, and Norway. The Oslo to Bergen line is fantastic, summer, winter..
Hi, I'm glad you enjoyed the video, I enjoy watching cab ride videos from around the world, we are lucky that so many train drivers either make the videos themselves or allow a camera in their cab. I enjoy watching Geoff Mackley's channel; he posts some of the best New Zealand cab rides, often on freight only lines.
man that brought back memories, used to travel from "the village of the Danes" to Palmerston Nth a lot as a kid in the 80s via car, bus and train. Didn't realize they shut the road down, though as a motor cyclist I would be tempted to "run the gauntlet" with an adventure bike if I still lived in the area. Great seeing the G12 running as well, one of my favorite engine types. Been looking at getting my hands on the 3D printed bodies and modifying a drive so I can run them on my HOn3 track (I don't run meter gauge or S scale). I have good memories of seeing them parked up in Napier years ago before they moved the station and facilities and you could walk down the platform from the main station and look at them parked up. Can still smell them ;) thank you for posting.
Hi, I enjoyed reading you post, its nice read first-hand accounts about elements of railway history that are longer there for us to experience. I have been visiting New Zealand every couple of years for the last 20 years and I've noticed a lot of changes, no more English Electric units climbing the hill to Johnsonville or riding the Hungarian units to Paraparaumu. On South Island the shared road rail bridges are no longer. Riding the Stratford to Ohura line in a converted golf trolley is fun. I try to time my visits to allow me to ride the occasional special trains through the gorge; sadly there are no regular passenger train these days. I wish I'd visited New Zealand back in the days when the major cities were still served by regular passenger trains. There is something special about NZ trains, they look good in red. Glad you enjoyed the video.
You can walk or cycle through the gorge but a motorcycle wouldn't be able to get through the barriers. When I cycled through about 2 years ago I had to lift my bike over and slide it under several barriers as well as squeezing through holes cut in chain link fences. There is also one section where you have to scramble over a steep landslide. I personally believe that the gorge should be opened to walkers and cyclists at their own risk. It's a lovely ride and your chances of been killed or injured from a landslide or falling rocks must be far, far less than the risk of cycling on NZ roads.
Simply breathtaking scenery right through the whole journey. Have a few trips now on file from the Waikato, Bay of Plenty and King Country and now can add Manawatu to my list.
Hello, I'm pleased you enjoyed the ride, New Zealand is home to some of the world’s most scenic train journeys, commuters get to enjoy the Kapiti coast on their daily commute into Wellington, they don't read newspapers, they look out of the window to enjoy the ever changing views. If you are planning on riding any of the railways in the North Island it's well worth looking on Steam Incorporated’s website - www.steaminc.org.nz/ they run tours to places not served by regular passenger trains.
It's nice to know this video bought back memories of your days as a porter on the Endeavour, as a regular tourist to New Zealand I'd love to see the Endeavour re-introduced along with trains to Rotorua and Dunedin, it would make touring a lot easier.
Hello Keith and thank you for the New Year greetings, I'm glad you enjoyed the video, the guys who run this train are really nice people, they'll do everything they can to make sure passengers enjoy their day out. New Zealand is a lot like England in many ways with plenty of rain making it a green and pleasant land. How is Lady June? My heart goes out to you. Wishing you and your family all the best for 2024.
Awesome video. I've been through the gorge a handful of times, both by car and by train. The last time by car was in 2010, on the way back from Hastings to Porirua. The first time I remember by train was on the former Endeavour service from Hastings to Porirua in the 1970s, and a few years later on an excursion between Palmerston North and Woodville.
Hi, I'm pleased you enjoyed the video, on one occasion I drove through the gorge a day or so after a milk train had come of the rails, it was quite alarming to see, must have given the driver a real fright, on another occasion I was following the Northern Explorer, it had been diverted via the Gorge and the Wairarapa line to reach Wellington. This was my second trip through the gorge by rail, the previous trip being on an excursion train to Napier for the Art Deco Weekend. As a tourist to New Zealand I'd love to see KiwiRail adding Napier, New Plymouth and Rotorua to their passenger network, because at the moment getting around New Zealand by rail is impossible.
This comment sparked my curiosity, were there more platforms in the past, this photo answers the question "Why bother numbering a single platform"? - transpressnz.blogspot.com/2023/08/three-fiat-railcars-at-woodville-nz.html
Ah, legacy!.There's no excuse though for the digital announcemnets in British (or is it just Scottish?) stations with only one platform referring to it as 'Platform 1'!@@Timsvideochannel1
@@davidpanton3192 There is something I noticed in New Zealand, some stations such as Palmerston North, National Park, Woodville and Dunedin have one very long platform with a cross over to allow two trains to use the same platform, it’s not a common practice in the UK, but there are stations that accommodate more than one train in the same platform and that can be very confusing, especially if the trains leave in either direction, sometimes the same platform can have two numbers or occasionally 1a and 1b. I have to agree that in the case of remote stations with just one platform, giving it a number does seem pointless.
Hello Hans, your gift was put to good use and I'm glad you received my package, we are ready to enjoy Christmas and I'm guessing you still have a beer or two left over from your recent shopping expedition. I hope you and your family have a wonderful Christmas. Seasons greeting from Tim and Karen 🍺🎂🍰🍷.
So beautiful to see images from Nz again, we were their in 2004 on a very nice little campsite in Dannevirke; 2005 - 2009 and last time in 2019 sadly alone after my wife died in 2015. Perhaps one more time ??? thanks Tim sweet memories a get with those images. did only the kingston flyer though (south island)
Hi, I'm glad these scenes brought back good memories from your visit to Dannevirke and I'm sorry to hear that your wife died in 2015, I'd be devastated if I lost my wife. The Kingston Flyer is running again after a lengthy period of uncertainty about its future. My son lives in New Zealand and I visit as often as I can, usually about every 18 months although Covid prevented me from visiting for around 3 years. If you want to see more videos taken on my travels around New Zealand, please click on this link - th-cam.com/play/PLPdTWbkwx85pX8Zcf80fh3B2ggr_O_hLB.html
Thank You for youre reaction; indeed it is devasting. Part of my wife's familiy lives in NZ I live in Belgium at the border with the netherlands . Enjoy youre visits to youre son's place I gone enjoy the link . thanks Rob
@@robramael Hi, you live in a nice part of the world. I can only sympathise with your situation and it's a long way to New Zealand (I live in the UK), but it's a great feeling to finally arrive there to see my son and the many friends I have made over the years. I take the opportunity to stop over in Australia on the way out and on the return, a holiday becomes an adventure. If you do make one last trip, I think you'll find it a rewarding experience. Best wishes from the UK.
Have driven through the Gorge just once. Was amazing. Sadly it is now closed to vehicles due to yet another landslide and they deemed to expensive to keep open.
Like you, I've driven through the gorge in the past, it is sad that it is now closed, but looking at the road from the train I can understand why the decision to close it was made.
I hope you're having a great summer. It's just above 0°F at my home in Alaska and I am buried under fifteen feet of snow so far with two good snow months ahead😂
Hi, although I shot this video in New Zealand, I live in the UK and it's still winter here, just without the snow. It's nice to get 150mm of snow, enough to turn everything white, making everything look clean and tidy for a few days, but fifteen feet, Wow, I've only ever seen snow like that in Whistler, Canada and even then it probably wasn't fifteen feet although it did come up to the middle of the windows of our touring coach ❄☃
Rules around open viewing carriages have been tightened up in New Zealand recently although they are still a regular feature on KiwiRail's scenic trains as well as some private operators trains, such as this one. The bar that prevents people from leaning out too far has been move in making it almost impossible to lean out. The big plus is being able to take reflection free photographs because there is no glass. It would be nice to see open carriages included on some of the slower trains travelling along scenic routes such as the lines traversed by the Jacobite.
Hi, it's nice to know you enjoyed this journey through beautiful New Zealand. I'm sorry to hear that your health makes travelling difficult. I hope you find plenty of train trips to watch here on TH-cam 😊.
That trip takes me back. Must of have been 2006 or 2007 I took a trip from Paraparaumu pulled by one of Steam Incorporated's steam locomotives to Masterton. Haven't been down to NZ since 2012, maybe I'll make a final return trip at the end of this year.
Steam Incorporated still run the occasional trip with steam, through the gorge and to Whanganui. If you do make that final return trip to NZ, it's worth taking a look at their website to see if you can time your trip to allow you to join one of their excursion trains - www.steaminc.org.nz/
i used to take the endeavour from palm nth to napier / return or from wellington to palm nth / return late in the day., best most enjoyable job i ever had.
I wish I'd had the opportunity to ride the Endeavour, fortunately I have been able to ride the route between Paekakariki and Napier with Steam Inc and the rest of the route on the regular suburban trains. There are few more scenic routes to be found anywhere in the world, I love the Kapiti Coast Cliffs and I can fully understand why you loved your job.
Hi, New Zealand is a green and pleasant land, much like Ireland. I live in the UK and I still can't get used to speaking to my son in New Zealand as he is getting ready for work and I'm getting ready to go to bed. I'm glad you enjoyed the train ride.
The unstable hillside above the road along with frequent earthquakes resulted in too many serious landslides, the one that finally forced the issue can be seen from the train towards the end of the gorge.
The rock (argelite) above the road is of very poor quality and weathered badly resulting in multiple ongoing landslides over the road, closing it on frequent occassions. Have driven the gorge on the old road many times, and many times it has been down to one lane while a slip was cleared or attempts were made to stablise the hillside.
50+ years ago when drink-driving was a sport not a crime, we'd drive Pahiatua-Palmie and back for a night out, mandatory gear-braking only through the gorge
Done properly there were at least three overtaking spots in the gorge. Also, one evening, full of bravado, around the time of 'Corngate' (2002) we tagged the gorge with GE FREE PLEASE in 2 metre tall letters.
@@gsays-w4kI was too busy looking at the scenery to want to overtake, although I imagine tourists like myself were a right pain in the arse to regular users of the road who had to get somewhere quickly. Being a UK resident I wasn't up to speed with "GE Free Please", so I looked it up - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seeds_of_Distrust I remember similar protests in the UK around the same time, I guess the protests were successful, I haven't heard about it for a long time.
1:24:15 Obviously Dannevirke was *not* the final stop for this train as it reached Dannevirke at the 1 hour, 17 minute mark then carried on beyond the station.
My camera battery ran out in the middle of nowhere, as Dannevirke was the last station the train passed through, it made sense to use that as the destination, after all going further is a bonus and who doesn't like to get a little extra?
Love the video, thank you! Does it bother anyone that the camera positions the viewer to the right of the track? First time watching New Zealand. Maybe that's just how it has to be done with the train cabs there.
@@Timsvideochannel1 As a Dane, I HAD heard of the "Dannevirke" before! From when Bjelke Petersen was Premier of Queensland /Australia back in the day. HE was from Dannevirke, N.Z.. Funny thing, "Zealand" is the English name for Sjælland, the island where Copenhagen ( København) is. But yes, I DO know, that New Zealand/Aotearoa is named after the Dutch Province Zeeland, and NOT after Zealand/Sjælland!
@@k7u5r8t4Travel is fascinating, we learn so much about the countries we live in from a view point that can only be seen from an outsiders prospective. When I was younger I considered emigrating to New Zealand, at the time I lived in Chichester UK and the town I was considering moving to was Chichester in New Zealand. I wish I'd learned about Captain Cook when I was at school, I had to wait until I visited Australia and New Zealand to discover his amazing voyages and lucky escapes.
I checked the internet out for more info - www.steaminc.org.nz/our-rail-fleet/diesel-locomotives/da-1410/ The locomotive is a 2 stroke and if you love the sound they make, I think you'll enjoy this video - th-cam.com/video/JTdp9XbDxPs/w-d-xo.html
No. The road opposite the train track was closed and no-one is allowed through as the geology is unstable. Barricades,etc but plenty of people bike and walk there.
56:30 That's funny. Calling a road "State Highway 2" when New Zealand doesn't really have "states" as such. More like "Provinces" centred on Wellington, Christchurch, Auckland and Dunedin.
This is what the internet has to say - "State highways are those roads in New Zealand that form a nationally strategic purpose in moving people and goods nationwide. For example State Highway 1 runs the entire length of New Zealand. State highways are a Crown asset that we manage on behalf of central government".
The scaffolding was there to allow routine maintenance to be undertaken, the bridge itself is sound, but like any structure that has been standing a long time it requires a new coat of paint and parts of the wooden decking along with the hand rails need to be repaired or replaced as necessary.
This was taken from Wikipedeia - "A single track rail connection was established on the northern side of the gorge; it was completed in 1891 and is now part of the Palmerston North-Gisborne Line". Please click on this link to learn more - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manawat%C5%AB_Gorge#:~:text=A%20single%20track%20rail%20connection,the%20Palmerston%20North%E2%80%93Gisborne%20Line.
The railway will probably be OK and there is an alternative route via the Wairarapa Line, although for the time being that line has been mothballed. This could be a good news story if it comes to fruition - www.nzherald.co.nz/kapiti-news/news/government-pledge-for-trains-and-rail-track-upgrades-for-wairarapa-and-manawatu-welcomed/6ZIVVA22UVB6VJFQJ5ERPYFVRQ/
@@juliaforsyth8332 The road suffered from too many landslips, hence they are building a new road away from the gorge, the railway also suffers from occasional slumps, but nowhere near as badly as the opposite side of the river.
That would be the drivers view on a DA class locomotive - the driver sits to one side of the "Short hood". I guess thats where there is somewhere to clamp the camera to! Think about the practicalities perhaps?
@@ulge386 In vielen ehemaligen britischen Kolonien wurde Kapspur verwendet, da es kostengünstiger war, Eisenbahnen mit einer Spurweite von 3 Fuß 6 Zoll (1.067 mm) durch schwieriges Gelände zu bauen. Indien bildete mit 1.676 mm (5 Fuß 6 Zoll) die Ausnahme.
Hi, I included some information about the road in the video description. I am fortunate in that I did travel through the gorge by road on a number of occasions; it is difficult for photographers to take pictures of trains in the gorge today without first taking a long hike to reach the desired location.
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Растительные условия богатые, но деревьев первого яруса встречается совсем немного, отдельными куртинами. Вывод:леса материнские вырубались и были заменены вторичными породами деревьев.Нужно проводить рубки переформирования и высаживать породы деревьев первого яруса, способные сформировать полог, дающий укрытие подросту, подлеску. Так первозданный материнский лес будет восстановлен.
Здравствуйте, Новая Зеландия - очень плодородная страна с идеальным климатом как для пастбищ, так и для земледелия. Первые поселенцы отвечали за вырубку больших площадей леса для создания лугов для, вероятно, самой известной сельскохозяйственной деятельности Новой Зеландии - молочного животноводства. Многие из вырубленных деревьев были высококачественными лиственными деревьями, которые использовались в производстве мебели, судостроении и строительстве мостов. Сегодня высаживаются папоротники и естественные деревья, и существуют большие охраняемые территории, на которых местные растения и деревья растут так, как будто человека никогда не существовало. Новозеландцы осознают ущерб, причиненный вырубкой лесов, и делают все возможное, чтобы побудить большие территории вернуться в естественную среду обитания для многих из их редких и уникальных птиц и животных.
"Yes" the loco is GM and it was built in Canada. For more details pleases click on this link - www.steaminc.org.nz/our-rail-fleet/diesel-locomotives/da-1410/
As a tourist to New Zealand, I find it frustrating that I can't tour New Zealand by rail, especially when you consider that the tracks and stations are mostly there and ready to be used. If it were not for organisations such as Steam Incorporated it wouldn't be possible to occasionally travel by train to places such as Napier and Whanganui. If New Zealand is serious about Net Zero and its tourist industry it should reintroduce trains to its main tourist centres such as Rotorua, New Plymouth, Duneden and Kingston for sailings to Queenstown. Try to think of another country in the world that leaves all of its top tourist destinations without a rail link.
Funny how well maintained the tracks are under a nationalised rail owner. What a moron Richard Prebble was thinking hocking it off to the highest bidder was a good idea.
@@johnrauner2515 I noticed the track on the South Island deteriorated badly under Toll Rail, a lot of money was spent bringing it back up to standard when the government took over, sadly Mother Nature wrecked much of it. I hope KiwRail keep the tracks in good order and add a few more passenger trains. I'm a tourist to New Zealand and I can't help noticing that it is almost alone in the world in not running passenger services to its main tourist hotspots.
The road on the opposite side of the river was damaged beyond economic repair, a new road is being constructed away from the gorge. The railway has suffered from occasional slips, but to date it is still OK.
Really a beautiful place it's a lot like England's countryside and far nth Qld green & lush thanks Tim, Will they ever reopen the rd thru the gorge? happy new year cheers Bob. ps i posted 2 comments re the gulf lander pt 2 but i think they got lost in the "NEVER NEVER " slang for OZ outback.😁🦘🎆🎉🍷🍻🥳🤠
Hello Robert, New Zealand is a beautiful country, as a result of plenty of rain and a temperate climate, or as my wife puts it "it looks like Wales on stilts" because its wet like Wales but the mountains are a lot higher. There are no plans to reopen the road, instead a new road is being built away from the gorge. Sorry I missed your comments, I reply to all those that appear in my notifications, but for some reason, when a video is first posted I don't receive a notification for some comments although they appear with the video, I'll have a look for them after I've posted this comment. It's been a very busy period with my day job taking up far too much time, I'm having trouble finding time to edit enough videos. The videos I'll be posting over the next few months take a long time to do, I'll probably only manage 3 or 4 a month. All the best and a Happy New Year. Tim 🐊🪱🦘🦘🦘🪳😊.
Absolutely beautiful journey, New Zealand is amazing destination.
Thank you, I'm pleased you enjoyed the ride. New Zealand is a wonderful country to visit, so much to see and do.
Thank you. I am so enjoying this, chilling with a nice glass of red wine. I can never get enough of train trips in New Zealand. This is a particularly beautiful one. Hope you had a happy Christmas.
Hello Anna, I'm glad you enjoyed the video, it was nice to get back over to New Zealand after the enforced break. I'd rather have celebrated Christmas in New Zealand in glorious summer sunshine, it's wet, cold and windy over here in the UK. Happy New Year. Tim.
Beautiful green scenery and fantastic looking trees.
New Zealand is a very scenic country with wonderful wildlife and some of the most stunning scenery I've ever seen.
Have lived in Palmy my whole life and have never taken the train before. This was so good it makes me want to do this trip now. Thanks for sharing
You live in a nice part of the world and visiting the Manawatu Gorge has become more difficult now that the road has closed. I'm glad you enjoyed the video and I'm sure the guys at Steam Incorporated would love to welcome you aboard one of their trains. You can find a link to their website in the video description. Cheers.Tim.
Fantastic scenic journey. Thank you
Hello Keith, I'm glad you enjoyed the ride and Happy New Year, I look forward to more Smile videos.
Sir Thank-you very much to reply me God bless you good journey to rail fans
What a wonderful trip. Well, now I am off to Switzerland to take a vicarious night trip to Zurich. 😀🚞🚃🚃🚃
I'm pleased you enjoyed the ride and I hope you enjoy riding the night train to Zurich 😊.
Best train journey I ever had. Virtually 👍
I'm pleased you enjoyed the ride, it's one of my favourite train journey’s 😊.
Thrilling yet relaxing.
Sort of remember when these diesels came in. So I must be around seventy.....
Hi, this loco was introduced in 1955, you might find this information interesting - www.steaminc.org.nz/our-rail-fleet/diesel-locomotives/da-1410/
Great video,
Thanks for posting.❤😃
Thank you, I'm pleased you enjoyed it 😊.
Video toujours aussi interessante! paysages magnifiques. Merci pour votre partage.
Merci, c'est agréable de savoir que vous avez apprécié la balade 😊.
Very nice! I liked how you "looked around" every now and then, kind of like you were riding the train as a passenger rather than just looking straight ahead all of the time.
Hello Mike, I'm pleased you enjoyed the additional side views. This is one of my favourite train rides and the Steam Incorporated guys go the extra mile to make sure everyone enjoys their day out 😊.
A long comforting trip. The scenery was beautiful. Cloudy sky, but still picturesque! Thank you for the video, Tim.
See you on the next! ❤🙂👍🇺🇸
It's one of my favourite New Zealand rail trips and there are only 3 or 4 passenger trains a year through the gorge making it a trip rarely featured on You Tube, I'm glad you enjoyed it Cheers. Tim.
Very interesting, Tim. On my infrequent trips to the North Island, I've never been through the gorge. It looks quite hairy, and not for the faint-hearted, as you say, and that includes me these days! Thank you!
Hello Jim, passenger trains through the gorge these days are few and far between, those that do run are usually special trains put on by Steam Incorporated. It's a ride to be remembered. I'm glad you enjoyed it.
Very nice trip! Would love to “do it”. Been on the main lines on visits. Great vid. Cheers from Oz.
Hi Jim, I'm glad you enjoyed the ride, if you go back to NZ you might be able to time your visit to coincide with one of these tours. Please click on this link to see what's on offer in the New Year - www.steaminc.org.nz/ . All the best from a wet and windy UK.
Its great to see train cab view rides here in New Zealand. I have seen a few from U.K., Croatia, Montenegro, Germany, and Norway. The Oslo to Bergen line is fantastic, summer, winter..
Hi, I'm glad you enjoyed the video, I enjoy watching cab ride videos from around the world, we are lucky that so many train drivers either make the videos themselves or allow a camera in their cab. I enjoy watching Geoff Mackley's channel; he posts some of the best New Zealand cab rides, often on freight only lines.
It's very beautiful
"Yes" it is beautiful, I'm glad you enjoyed the ride.
Great film
man that brought back memories, used to travel from "the village of the Danes" to Palmerston Nth a lot as a kid in the 80s via car, bus and train. Didn't realize they shut the road down, though as a motor cyclist I would be tempted to "run the gauntlet" with an adventure bike if I still lived in the area. Great seeing the G12 running as well, one of my favorite engine types. Been looking at getting my hands on the 3D printed bodies and modifying a drive so I can run them on my HOn3 track (I don't run meter gauge or S scale). I have good memories of seeing them parked up in Napier years ago before they moved the station and facilities and you could walk down the platform from the main station and look at them parked up. Can still smell them ;) thank you for posting.
Hi, I enjoyed reading you post, its nice read first-hand accounts about elements of railway history that are longer there for us to experience. I have been visiting New Zealand every couple of years for the last 20 years and I've noticed a lot of changes, no more English Electric units climbing the hill to Johnsonville or riding the Hungarian units to Paraparaumu. On South Island the shared road rail bridges are no longer. Riding the Stratford to Ohura line in a converted golf trolley is fun. I try to time my visits to allow me to ride the occasional special trains through the gorge; sadly there are no regular passenger train these days. I wish I'd visited New Zealand back in the days when the major cities were still served by regular passenger trains. There is something special about NZ trains, they look good in red. Glad you enjoyed the video.
You can walk or cycle through the gorge but a motorcycle wouldn't be able to get through the barriers. When I cycled through about 2 years ago I had to lift my bike over and slide it under several barriers as well as squeezing through holes cut in chain link fences. There is also one section where you have to scramble over a steep landslide.
I personally believe that the gorge should be opened to walkers and cyclists at their own risk. It's a lovely ride and your chances of been killed or injured from a landslide or falling rocks must be far, far less than the risk of cycling on NZ roads.
Simply breathtaking scenery right through the whole journey. Have a few trips now on file from the Waikato, Bay of Plenty and King Country and now can add Manawatu to my list.
Hello, I'm pleased you enjoyed the ride, New Zealand is home to some of the world’s most scenic train journeys, commuters get to enjoy the Kapiti coast on their daily commute into Wellington, they don't read newspapers, they look out of the window to enjoy the ever changing views. If you are planning on riding any of the railways in the North Island it's well worth looking on Steam Incorporated’s website - www.steaminc.org.nz/ they run tours to places not served by regular passenger trains.
Beautiful and amazing
Thank you, I'm pleased you enjoyed the ride 😊.
great journey,thank you for sharing ;-)
Thank you, I'm pleased you enjoyed it :-)
thanks you for memory that this trip bought back for me . i was a porter on the old Endeavour line , Palmy to Napier
It's nice to know this video bought back memories of your days as a porter on the Endeavour, as a regular tourist to New Zealand I'd love to see the Endeavour re-introduced along with trains to Rotorua and Dunedin, it would make touring a lot easier.
VIEWED IT AGAIN 04/01/24. Magic......sight n sound video. BEST WISHES FOT 2024 TIM.
Hello Keith and thank you for the New Year greetings, I'm glad you enjoyed the video, the guys who run this train are really nice people, they'll do everything they can to make sure passengers enjoy their day out. New Zealand is a lot like England in many ways with plenty of rain making it a green and pleasant land. How is Lady June? My heart goes out to you. Wishing you and your family all the best for 2024.
Awesome video. I've been through the gorge a handful of times, both by car and by train. The last time by car was in 2010, on the way back from Hastings to Porirua. The first time I remember by train was on the former Endeavour service from Hastings to Porirua in the 1970s, and a few years later on an excursion between Palmerston North and Woodville.
Hi, I'm pleased you enjoyed the video, on one occasion I drove through the gorge a day or so after a milk train had come of the rails, it was quite alarming to see, must have given the driver a real fright, on another occasion I was following the Northern Explorer, it had been diverted via the Gorge and the Wairarapa line to reach Wellington. This was my second trip through the gorge by rail, the previous trip being on an excursion train to Napier for the Art Deco Weekend. As a tourist to New Zealand I'd love to see KiwiRail adding Napier, New Plymouth and Rotorua to their passenger network, because at the moment getting around New Zealand by rail is impossible.
46:28 I like the way that Woodville's sole platform is numbered...
This comment sparked my curiosity, were there more platforms in the past, this photo answers the question "Why bother numbering a single platform"? - transpressnz.blogspot.com/2023/08/three-fiat-railcars-at-woodville-nz.html
Ah, legacy!.There's no excuse though for the digital announcemnets in British (or is it just Scottish?) stations with only one platform referring to it as 'Platform 1'!@@Timsvideochannel1
@@davidpanton3192 There is something I noticed in New Zealand, some stations such as Palmerston North, National Park, Woodville and Dunedin have one very long platform with a cross over to allow two trains to use the same platform, it’s not a common practice in the UK, but there are stations that accommodate more than one train in the same platform and that can be very confusing, especially if the trains leave in either direction, sometimes the same platform can have two numbers or occasionally 1a and 1b. I have to agree that in the case of remote stations with just one platform, giving it a number does seem pointless.
19:45 Off in the distance, a Wind Farm! Nice crops of "gentle breezes" but not growing any "gales"! LOL
growing any gales ?
@@Mediawatcher2023 Too volatile! LOL😁
@@neilforbes416 Did you hear about the wind’s career change? It blew away all the competition! 😆
@@Mediawatcher2023 ~ groan ~
Merry Christmas 🎄Tim and many thanks for the wonderful gift 👍. I have send you a mail on Dec 20th. Best regards from Hans and Cheers 🍻🇦🇹.
Hello Hans, your gift was put to good use and I'm glad you received my package, we are ready to enjoy Christmas and I'm guessing you still have a beer or two left over from your recent shopping expedition. I hope you and your family have a wonderful Christmas. Seasons greeting from Tim and Karen 🍺🎂🍰🍷.
So beautiful to see images from Nz again, we were their in 2004 on a very nice little campsite in Dannevirke; 2005 - 2009 and last time in 2019 sadly alone after my wife died in 2015. Perhaps one more time ??? thanks Tim sweet memories a get with those images. did only the kingston flyer though (south island)
Hi, I'm glad these scenes brought back good memories from your visit to Dannevirke and I'm sorry to hear that your wife died in 2015, I'd be devastated if I lost my wife. The Kingston Flyer is running again after a lengthy period of uncertainty about its future. My son lives in New Zealand and I visit as often as I can, usually about every 18 months although Covid prevented me from visiting for around 3 years. If you want to see more videos taken on my travels around New Zealand, please click on this link - th-cam.com/play/PLPdTWbkwx85pX8Zcf80fh3B2ggr_O_hLB.html
Thank You for youre reaction; indeed it is devasting. Part of my wife's familiy lives in NZ I live in Belgium at the border with the netherlands . Enjoy youre visits to youre son's place I gone enjoy the link . thanks Rob
@@robramael Hi, you live in a nice part of the world. I can only sympathise with your situation and it's a long way to New Zealand (I live in the UK), but it's a great feeling to finally arrive there to see my son and the many friends I have made over the years. I take the opportunity to stop over in Australia on the way out and on the return, a holiday becomes an adventure. If you do make one last trip, I think you'll find it a rewarding experience. Best wishes from the UK.
Have driven through the Gorge just once. Was amazing. Sadly it is now closed to vehicles due to yet another landslide and they deemed to expensive to keep open.
Like you, I've driven through the gorge in the past, it is sad that it is now closed, but looking at the road from the train I can understand why the decision to close it was made.
I hope you're having a great summer.
It's just above 0°F at my home in Alaska and I am buried under fifteen feet of snow so far with two good snow months ahead😂
Hi, although I shot this video in New Zealand, I live in the UK and it's still winter here, just without the snow. It's nice to get 150mm of snow, enough to turn everything white, making everything look clean and tidy for a few days, but fifteen feet, Wow, I've only ever seen snow like that in Whistler, Canada and even then it probably wasn't fifteen feet although it did come up to the middle of the windows of our touring coach ❄☃
Wow -- well done m8! I look forward to watching more of your channel content - new sub here
Hello, I'm pleased you enjoyed the ride and it's nice to have you aboard, I hope you find plenty more videos to watch on this channel.
Lovely video, thanks. I wonder what the H&S people would say about an open viewing coach on the Jacobite?
Rules around open viewing carriages have been tightened up in New Zealand recently although they are still a regular feature on KiwiRail's scenic trains as well as some private operators trains, such as this one. The bar that prevents people from leaning out too far has been move in making it almost impossible to lean out. The big plus is being able to take reflection free photographs because there is no glass. It would be nice to see open carriages included on some of the slower trains travelling along scenic routes such as the lines traversed by the Jacobite.
Thank you sooo much. I have missed not being able to do my train journeys due to health restraints now. Would really love to board this one . 🎉
Hi, it's nice to know you enjoyed this journey through beautiful New Zealand. I'm sorry to hear that your health makes travelling difficult. I hope you find plenty of train trips to watch here on TH-cam 😊.
Special thank for crew
I'm sure the train crew will appreciate your "Thank you", they are nice people.
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Hello Shahid, I'm glad you enjoyed the video 😊.
One of the best! The destination was Takapu, not Danne Virke, but never mind. I've never been to New Zealand -- this is the next best thing!
Hi, I'm glad you enjoyed the ride, New Zealand is a beautiful country.
Thanks Tim heaps. Love Aotearoa.
Hi, it's always nice to hear from the "land of the long white cloud". I'm glad you enjoyed the video.
That trip takes me back. Must of have been 2006 or 2007 I took a trip from Paraparaumu pulled by one of Steam Incorporated's steam locomotives to Masterton. Haven't been down to NZ since 2012, maybe I'll make a final return trip at the end of this year.
Steam Incorporated still run the occasional trip with steam, through the gorge and to Whanganui. If you do make that final return trip to NZ, it's worth taking a look at their website to see if you can time your trip to allow you to join one of their excursion trains - www.steaminc.org.nz/
i used to take the endeavour from palm nth to napier / return or from wellington to palm nth / return late in the day., best most enjoyable job i ever had.
I wish I'd had the opportunity to ride the Endeavour, fortunately I have been able to ride the route between Paekakariki and Napier with Steam Inc and the rest of the route on the regular suburban trains. There are few more scenic routes to be found anywhere in the world, I love the Kapiti Coast Cliffs and I can fully understand why you loved your job.
Hi from Ireland. Superb Train journey n Scenery Wow Mts. In Distance can only imagine d George but it's long vid n it's late over here 🛤️⛰️🏈
Thanks Highlighter
Hi, New Zealand is a green and pleasant land, much like Ireland. I live in the UK and I still can't get used to speaking to my son in New Zealand as he is getting ready for work and I'm getting ready to go to bed. I'm glad you enjoyed the train ride.
Excellent
I'm pleased you enjoyed it 😊.
Why was the high way on the opposite side abandoned ??? Traffic accidents or some other reason ??? LOL🤔 Extra ordinary country indeed !!!
The unstable hillside above the road along with frequent earthquakes resulted in too many serious landslides, the one that finally forced the issue can be seen from the train towards the end of the gorge.
The rock (argelite) above the road is of very poor quality and weathered badly resulting in multiple ongoing landslides over the road, closing it on frequent occassions. Have driven the gorge on the old road many times, and many times it has been down to one lane while a slip was cleared or attempts were made to stablise the hillside.
50+ years ago when drink-driving was a sport not a crime, we'd drive Pahiatua-Palmie and back for a night out, mandatory gear-braking only through the gorge
Wow, things have changed in the last 50 years, what were you driving?
@@Timsvideochannel1 '62 Morris Minor (top speed 62mph downhill, tail wind), and '52 E83W Fordson - nice lil bout of nostalgia thank you
@@Jiapin-e3t Happy days 😊.
Done properly there were at least three overtaking spots in the gorge.
Also, one evening, full of bravado, around the time of 'Corngate' (2002) we tagged the gorge with GE FREE PLEASE in 2 metre tall letters.
@@gsays-w4kI was too busy looking at the scenery to want to overtake, although I imagine tourists like myself were a right pain in the arse to regular users of the road who had to get somewhere quickly. Being a UK resident I wasn't up to speed with "GE Free Please", so I looked it up - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seeds_of_Distrust I remember similar protests in the UK around the same time, I guess the protests were successful, I haven't heard about it for a long time.
1:24:15 Obviously Dannevirke was *not* the final stop for this train as it reached Dannevirke at the 1 hour, 17 minute mark then carried on beyond the station.
My camera battery ran out in the middle of nowhere, as Dannevirke was the last station the train passed through, it made sense to use that as the destination, after all going further is a bonus and who doesn't like to get a little extra?
@neilforbes416 that usually happens when you do a train video
@@Timsvideochannel1 thats the problem with cameras especially if its a camcorder it happens to me
@@Mediawatcher2023 Camcorder batteries never last long enough.
Goes on to Port of Napier.
Greetings from the UK! Anyone else noticed that, no matter where in the world, graffiti ALL looks the same? Great video though, from a lovely country.
Graffiti is the same the world over, just that there is less of it in some countries. I'm glad you enjoyed the ride 😊.
agreed entirely
😂
That's because there's only one brand of idiot
That’s part and parcel of having Blacks.
Love the video, thank you! Does it bother anyone that the camera positions the viewer to the right of the track? First time watching New Zealand. Maybe that's just how it has to be done with the train cabs there.
Noted!
Awesome
I'm glad you enjoyed it 😊.
I didn't expect that New Zealand uses a 1067mm gauge width, not standard gauge
All of the New Zealand national rail network is 3 ft 6 in (1,067 mm)
Interesting, I had not heard of a Dannevirke in New Zealand before.
It's surprising how many places in New Zealand are named after places in Europe "New Zealand" itself being one such case.
@@Timsvideochannel1 As a Dane, I HAD heard of the "Dannevirke" before! From when Bjelke Petersen was Premier of Queensland /Australia back in the day. HE was from Dannevirke, N.Z.. Funny thing, "Zealand" is the English name for Sjælland, the island where Copenhagen ( København) is. But yes, I DO know, that New Zealand/Aotearoa is named after the Dutch Province Zeeland, and NOT after Zealand/Sjælland!
@@k7u5r8t4Travel is fascinating, we learn so much about the countries we live in from a view point that can only be seen from an outsiders prospective. When I was younger I considered emigrating to New Zealand, at the time I lived in Chichester UK and the town I was considering moving to was Chichester in New Zealand. I wish I'd learned about Captain Cook when I was at school, I had to wait until I visited Australia and New Zealand to discover his amazing voyages and lucky escapes.
My town in this district like Dannevirke and Norsewood were settled by Scandinavians in the 1800's. @@k7u5r8t4
Magnífico
Estou feliz que você tenha gostado 😊
4:45, change of track at a high speed.
as someone who regularly goes from palmy to the bay, call me weird but i always wondered the different views train drivers had 😭
The train driver gets the best view.
Wow! This fellow moved along at a good speed! How fast was it? Looks like 60 or 70 mph!
70km/h max
The train did feel fast at times although I believe the top speed was around 45 - 50 mph.
oh, hang on I am wrong, 3 vehicles and 2 motorbikes Dezerted NZ where there are more sheep than people apparently. Very Nice.
Fun ride, can I go again?
I'm glad you enjoyed it and you can watch this video as many times as you want 😊.
Scenic!
Is that 2 stroke loco at intro?...
I checked the internet out for more info - www.steaminc.org.nz/our-rail-fleet/diesel-locomotives/da-1410/ The locomotive is a 2 stroke and if you love the sound they make, I think you'll enjoy this video - th-cam.com/video/JTdp9XbDxPs/w-d-xo.html
@@Timsvideochannel1 Alright, thanks...👌🏼
woohoo your'e back in NZ
I spent a most enjoyable week in New Zealand and hopefully it won't be too long before I visit again.
My cousins husband ,drives one of those trains.
I bet he looks forward to going to work, not many people can say that !!!
thought they turned this into a hiking/biking trail
No. The road opposite the train track was closed and no-one is allowed through as the geology is unstable. Barricades,etc but plenty of people bike and walk there.
The bridge at 39:00 is an interesting design
I believe it's a concrete bridge. You can find more photos and information by clicking on this link - www.shutterstock.com/search/manawatu-gorge
56:30 That's funny. Calling a road "State Highway 2" when New Zealand doesn't really have "states" as such. More like "Provinces" centred on Wellington, Christchurch, Auckland and Dunedin.
This is what the internet has to say - "State highways are those roads in New Zealand that form a nationally strategic purpose in moving people and goods nationwide. For example State Highway 1 runs the entire length of New Zealand. State highways are a Crown asset that we manage on behalf of central government".
@@Timsvideochannel1 thats correct
@neilforbes416 Do you live in a Provence or a local government area or a county as they are known in America
@@Mediawatcher2023 Don't forget in Louisiana the "county" level is a Parrish
@@irmafoster3933 in australia we call them local goverment area
1:25:12 seemed a bit unsecure.
The scaffolding was there to allow routine maintenance to be undertaken, the bridge itself is sound, but like any structure that has been standing a long time it requires a new coat of paint and parts of the wooden decking along with the hand rails need to be repaired or replaced as necessary.
That’s a really long tunnel. How old is it ?
This was taken from Wikipedeia - "A single track rail connection was established on the northern side of the gorge; it was completed in 1891 and is now part of the Palmerston North-Gisborne Line". Please click on this link to learn more - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manawat%C5%AB_Gorge#:~:text=A%20single%20track%20rail%20connection,the%20Palmerston%20North%E2%80%93Gisborne%20Line.
If that happened to the road how long has the railway got and is there an alternate route?
The railway will probably be OK and there is an alternative route via the Wairarapa Line, although for the time being that line has been mothballed. This could be a good news story if it comes to fruition - www.nzherald.co.nz/kapiti-news/news/government-pledge-for-trains-and-rail-track-upgrades-for-wairarapa-and-manawatu-welcomed/6ZIVVA22UVB6VJFQJ5ERPYFVRQ/
Different geology on the train side, so not much trouble.
@@juliaforsyth8332 The road suffered from too many landslips, hence they are building a new road away from the gorge, the railway also suffers from occasional slumps, but nowhere near as badly as the opposite side of the river.
Why is the way over to one side makes me want to fall over
That would be the drivers view on a DA class locomotive - the driver sits to one side of the "Short hood". I guess thats where there is somewhere to clamp the camera to! Think about the practicalities perhaps?
Good !! it's metric gauge ?
I'm pleased you enjoyed it, the track Gauge is 3 ft 6 in (1,067 mm)
1067mm auch bekannt als Kapspur weil diese Spurbreite vornehmlich in Südafrika aber auch in anderen Staaten des british empire verwendet wird.
@@ulge386 In vielen ehemaligen britischen Kolonien wurde Kapspur verwendet, da es kostengünstiger war, Eisenbahnen mit einer Spurweite von 3 Fuß 6 Zoll (1.067 mm) durch schwieriges Gelände zu bauen. Indien bildete mit 1.676 mm (5 Fuß 6 Zoll) die Ausnahme.
Are the tracks narrow gauge?
I'll bet you'll be giving us a Disneyland Driver's Eye View next.
That's a good idea :-)
Looks like that's a road on the other side, but not a vehicle to be seen...😮 Ok get it now, it's closed...
Hi, I included some information about the road in the video description. I am fortunate in that I did travel through the gorge by road on a number of occasions; it is difficult for photographers to take pictures of trains in the gorge today without first taking a long hike to reach the desired location.
sir may i ask which camera you are using?
Hello, this trip was filmed using a GoPro 12 camera.
is this Standard Gauge or 3'6" please?
Hi, it's 3'6" gauge.
What is the track width? In NZ?
The NZ track Gauge is 3 ft 6 in (1,067 mm)
@@Timsvideochannel1 Thanks!
Why two locos ?
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Hello Mahaveer and "Happy Birthday". I'm please you enjoyed the video, New Zealand is a truley beautiful country. Best wishes from the UK 😊.
3'6" track gauge?
"Yes" it is 3'6".
Lack of flowers?
I took a closer look and you are right, apart from a few daisies and buttercups before the train enters the gorge there aren't many flowers.
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I guess the old highway is too old to drive on
The old road was closed because it was plagued by landslips which often closed the road for months at a time; the last slip was a big one.
КРОШЕЧНАЯ КОЛЕЯ, НА ЯПОНСКУЮ ПОХОЖА 1067СМ?
да, в описании указано
Растительные условия богатые, но деревьев первого яруса встречается совсем немного, отдельными куртинами. Вывод:леса материнские вырубались и были заменены вторичными породами деревьев.Нужно проводить рубки переформирования и высаживать породы деревьев первого яруса, способные сформировать полог, дающий укрытие подросту, подлеску. Так первозданный материнский лес будет восстановлен.
Здравствуйте, Новая Зеландия - очень плодородная страна с идеальным климатом как для пастбищ, так и для земледелия. Первые поселенцы отвечали за вырубку больших площадей леса для создания лугов для, вероятно, самой известной сельскохозяйственной деятельности Новой Зеландии - молочного животноводства. Многие из вырубленных деревьев были высококачественными лиственными деревьями, которые использовались в производстве мебели, судостроении и строительстве мостов. Сегодня высаживаются папоротники и естественные деревья, и существуют большие охраняемые территории, на которых местные растения и деревья растут так, как будто человека никогда не существовало. Новозеландцы осознают ущерб, причиненный вырубкой лесов, и делают все возможное, чтобы побудить большие территории вернуться в естественную среду обитания для многих из их редких и уникальных птиц и животных.
I am from Malang East Java...Indonesia
Hello it's nice to hear from East Java. Greetings from the UK.
GM (EMD) loco, probably Canadian.
"Yes" the loco is GM and it was built in Canada. For more details pleases click on this link - www.steaminc.org.nz/our-rail-fleet/diesel-locomotives/da-1410/
Railway system in NZ is outdated and antiquated.
Better to have a cost effective outdated railway than no railway at all.
I can sleep soundly at night knowing we have your incredibly valuable input on the state of our rail services.
My be we all could in joy this trip if only NZ governments would restore public transport on the parmaston to napier route
As a tourist to New Zealand, I find it frustrating that I can't tour New Zealand by rail, especially when you consider that the tracks and stations are mostly there and ready to be used. If it were not for organisations such as Steam Incorporated it wouldn't be possible to occasionally travel by train to places such as Napier and Whanganui. If New Zealand is serious about Net Zero and its tourist industry it should reintroduce trains to its main tourist centres such as Rotorua, New Plymouth, Duneden and Kingston for sailings to Queenstown. Try to think of another country in the world that leaves all of its top tourist destinations without a rail link.
Privatisation.@@Timsvideochannel1
Used to ride All the way to Gisborne back in the day,
🤣 Lolzzzzz New Zealand's always green even when it's hot summer brown it's green!... Don't mind me... I'm just showing-off...
🤣haahaaahaaaa
I love North Wales and New Zealand, 2 places with very similar weather, if it's not raining, it's just stopped or it's about to start raining 😊🌂☂☔⛱.
Funny how well maintained the tracks are under a nationalised rail owner. What a moron Richard Prebble was thinking hocking it off to the highest bidder was a good idea.
Not a weed in sight and perfectly tamped track the whole way
@@johnrauner2515 I noticed the track on the South Island deteriorated badly under Toll Rail, a lot of money was spent bringing it back up to standard when the government took over, sadly Mother Nature wrecked much of it. I hope KiwRail keep the tracks in good order and add a few more passenger trains. I'm a tourist to New Zealand and I can't help noticing that it is almost alone in the world in not running passenger services to its main tourist hotspots.
Hi
Hello, I hope you enjoyed the video.
So the railway tracks didn't get destroyed. I fought slips would have destroyed the railway tracks 😂
The road on the opposite side of the river was damaged beyond economic repair, a new road is being constructed away from the gorge. The railway has suffered from occasional slips, but to date it is still OK.
Great Video. I just wish Kiwirail weren't a bunch of absolute wankers. :(
Hi, I'm glad you enjoyed the video 😊.
Theres my house
You live in a nice part of the world.
Terjemahkan bahada indonesia
Get a proper horn on this loco
Really a beautiful place it's a lot like England's countryside and far nth Qld green & lush thanks Tim, Will they ever reopen the rd thru the gorge? happy new year cheers Bob. ps i posted 2 comments re the gulf lander pt 2 but i think they got lost in the "NEVER NEVER " slang for OZ outback.😁🦘🎆🎉🍷🍻🥳🤠
Hello Robert, New Zealand is a beautiful country, as a result of plenty of rain and a temperate climate, or as my wife puts it "it looks like Wales on stilts" because its wet like Wales but the mountains are a lot higher. There are no plans to reopen the road, instead a new road is being built away from the gorge. Sorry I missed your comments, I reply to all those that appear in my notifications, but for some reason, when a video is first posted I don't receive a notification for some comments although they appear with the video, I'll have a look for them after I've posted this comment. It's been a very busy period with my day job taking up far too much time, I'm having trouble finding time to edit enough videos. The videos I'll be posting over the next few months take a long time to do, I'll probably only manage 3 or 4 a month. All the best and a Happy New Year. Tim 🐊🪱🦘🦘🦘🪳😊.
THANKS TIM HAPPY NEW YEAR.🥳😁🍺🍷🍾🎆🎉🎊@@Timsvideochannel1
oh, hang on I am wrong, 3 vehicles and 2 motorbikes Dezerted NZ where there are more sheep than people apparently. Very Nice.
More cows than people now due to more Dairy Farms.
My be we all could in joy this trip if only NZ governments would restore public transport on the parmaston to napier route