Delightful. I didn't find him arrogant at all. When the interviewer said that a machine could never care about something the way he cared about his grandchildren, he said "Why not?" He didn't say that he knew how it could be done, just that, since he could do it, that showed that it could be done. The interviewer made the mistake of going from his inability to imagine something to the conclusion that the thing he cannot imagine does not or cannot exist.
“Man is a machine. All his deeds, actions, words, thoughts, feelings, convictions, opinions, and habits are the results of external influences, external impressions. Out of himself a man cannot produce a single thought, a single action. Everything he says, does, thinks, feels - all this happens." Gurdjieff
If a man is a machine, how come one man thinks he is a machine, and another man thinks he is not a machine? A machine is something built by someone. You must gain mastery of the meaning of words, if you want to understand what is really going on.
@@xabelesor5392 Горджиев своими бреднями ярко обозначил собственное невежество. Не знать о психотипах (в значительной степени предопределяющих поведение) и утверждать о внешних влияниях как о векторах, якобьі задающих поведение, способен лишь ментальньій гандикап.
I hope the people watching this video consider reading the following books: Irreducible by Federico Faggin, On The Nature of The Psyche by C.G. Jung, and all of Bernardo Kastrup's books.
Body ( the bot ) is the machine which is managed by the brain ( the program, the software ) and consciousness , the ‘I AM’, the driver, the self aware, a symbiotic relationship for a limited time. So who is the ‘I Am’ and where from ?
play World of Warcraft. you "enter" a "world" where you interact with other players, yet as much as you studied the physics of the game "from the inside" you won't find find the I AM, the players who have "avatars" "inside" "world of warcraft". What you call the "real world" is but a construct of the I AM. Think of perception. Nobody has proven yet that perception happens in the brain. The brain is merely a render, a representation, part of the avatar, of the "mechanics of the game". The only reality is the I AM, the Gods who congregate in this arena we call "the universe".
What a lovely human being at his philosophical best! Basic yet so profound. Complex but smoothly spoken. Why can't we find such people these days? Why does every philosopher barely sound like a blogger. And that's it.
As a fan of danny hillis, and knowing of the what the frogs eye tells the brain, its interesting how all these guys are connected. Same as it is through history commonly.
He should speak for himself; leave the rest of us out of it. We rightly see ourselves as triune: As Consciousness; Mind; Elemental. Consciousness (fundamental; Mind and Elements; the physical, emerging with quantum events. No way are we going to submit to anymore idiotic atheistic ideologies; communism was bad enough. No to eliminative materialism and no to trans humanism. Yes to the evolution of consciousness and the total understanding of reality and alignment with it.
I was wondering in another video interview i first watched of him, someone in comments said something like, " at least hes not naked in this one" or " hes wearing clothes in this one" and i was puzzled at what they couldve meant. Lol Well, i guess i know now. Thats odd.
Maybe you believe are just a machine, but I believe the jury is still out consciousness not existing and us being mere machines. The universe is still far too unknown to believe we have everything figured out. Quantum physics alone has the potential to up-end our understanding of cause and effect. That to say nothing of synergistic effects of causal systems creating uncertain outcomes. Arrogant may be the man who believes he controls his destiny, but equally so is man who thinks he figured out that he doesn't.
Dudes like him understand that it's the literal same thing, machine just means a puppet of whichever concept represents that superimposed on the present.
I don’t know what being a machine has to do with consciousness. A machine is anything with mechanical power made from several parts so by that definition we are more machine that the machines we know
@@Dragonfruits_ There is no hierarchy in nature so we're equally as mechanical.I mean to me we're God's puppets so I imagine us like the nutcracker, basically robots, just really complicated ones.
Maybe it remerges because it is the most affective one. There is no other philosophy that has been as affective in improving the lives of the human race across the board. Every time someone drinks the Kool aid on it very deeply you get a scientific or industrial revolution, since the time of the renaissance. Most other philosophies don't hold a candle to it. What do you think Post-Modernism will do the trick? give me a fucking break.
Not really. We have moved down one step in detail, into the quantum world, and though it appears to have an unavoidable random element, we still are no more masters of our own minds than before QM.
I’m honestly surprised how many comments are on his appearance or smoking lol. Freud was a mad coke head imagine and claimed smoking cigars during sessions made him practice better. Imagine what tapes of interviews with him would have been like then this doesn’t seem so bad. A scholar is not necessarily the most typical of creatures if exceptional
"If I do it, there is a mechanism that can do it." Yep. Whether or not another organism/thing/entity will ever have (or has had) the same emotions as humans remains to be seen, but they're just biochemical and biophysical processes shaped by evolutionary pressures and following the laws of physics. There's no reason AI can't evolve analogous characteristics for _in silica_ processes.
It sure is rare to see someone this age smoking cigarettes theses days, my generation (46) seems to be dying earlier, one of my grandmothers smoked since the 30’s and made it to 92 and her death wasn’t related to smoking
they didnt start putting high fructose corn syrup in them til recently. before this the cure and unique flavors and odors of the leaf itself was more popular. the actual nicotine itself is quite low in toxicity and we might actually be literally adapted to sequester various plant toxins to defend us against insects. it helps concentration, and the government hated that, so they created the ATF and began spraying tobacco in the USA with high fructose corn syrup to counteract the concentration and cognition boosts associated with nicotine. it ended up being the sugar that was addictive, not the nicotine itself.
@@insidiousmaximus wrong. later on they began spraying tobacco with corn syrup. phosphor interacts with sugar and allows you to absorb more than normal.
There's no right or wrong, no good or bad, no journey, no progress, no destination and nobody there capable of doing anything for except in thought. You can not be lost when you don't have a destination and you can not do wrong when you don't know what is right. Going astray doesn't exist and no thought can be freeing. There's no inside or outside without thought. Thought is the one that differentiates between an outside and an inside. Between a body and a mind. It is thought that creates the "me" and the "my surroundings". That's the knowledge there operating. There's no way you can tell yourself anything about anything and have these thoughts about things without this knowledge. And where did all this knowledge come from?! It surely didn't get created inside you. It didn't find birth in you. You don't own these thoughts. This knowledge doesn't belong to you. None of these are what you can call your own original thoughts. That's why I say, the you that you think you are is also knowledge that came from outside. This "I" you think you are and have to be, is knowledge from outside. Your whole identity is based on and created by knowledge from outside. Hell you didn't even pick your own name. It is given. Borrowed and stolen from somewhere. And this goes also for all the emotions and feelings you register. The translation of sensations into good and bad is all knowledge that came from outside. So without this knowledge you have no way of feeling good or bad about things and there's no way for you to tell if something is good or bad. So feeling good or bad about something doesn't tell you anything. It doesn't make anything better or worse and can't be used as a guide for anything. All knowledge came from outside, from others and is thought. So all the thoughts you think you have, including the "you", the "I" the "me" are actually just knowledge from outside, from others.
only the religulous shames the human body. "Christians lie because they don't want anyone to feel good about themselves" Katt Williams all suffering. no being. just guilt, shame and blame. " religion poisons everything" Christopher Hitchens
Takes balls to smoke without a shirt like that
Delightful. I didn't find him arrogant at all. When the interviewer said that a machine could never care about something the way he cared about his grandchildren, he said "Why not?" He didn't say that he knew how it could be done, just that, since he could do it, that showed that it could be done. The interviewer made the mistake of going from his inability to imagine something to the conclusion that the thing he cannot imagine does not or cannot exist.
“Man is a machine. All his deeds, actions, words, thoughts, feelings, convictions, opinions, and habits are the results of external influences, external impressions. Out of himself a man cannot produce a single thought, a single action. Everything he says, does, thinks, feels - all this happens." Gurdjieff
If a man is a machine, how come one man thinks he is a machine, and another man thinks he is not a machine?
A machine is something built by someone. You must gain mastery of the meaning of words, if you want to understand what is really going on.
@@criztu Thank you for your commentary. That is a Gurdjieff quote. Look the name under it. Thank you again.
@@xabelesor5392 Горджиев своими бреднями ярко обозначил собственное невежество. Не знать о психотипах (в значительной степени предопределяющих поведение) и утверждать о внешних влияниях как о векторах, якобьі задающих поведение, способен лишь ментальньій гандикап.
I hope the people watching this video consider reading the following books: Irreducible by Federico Faggin, On The Nature of The Psyche by C.G. Jung, and all of Bernardo Kastrup's books.
Body ( the bot ) is the machine which is managed by the brain ( the program, the software ) and consciousness , the ‘I AM’, the driver, the self aware, a symbiotic relationship for a limited time. So who is the ‘I Am’ and where from ?
“I AM” = God
There is only one of us, playing hide and seek with itself.
play World of Warcraft. you "enter" a "world" where you interact with other players, yet as much as you studied the physics of the game "from the inside" you won't find find the I AM, the players who have "avatars" "inside" "world of warcraft".
What you call the "real world" is but a construct of the I AM.
Think of perception. Nobody has proven yet that perception happens in the brain. The brain is merely a render, a representation, part of the avatar, of the "mechanics of the game".
The only reality is the I AM, the Gods who congregate in this arena we call "the universe".
Smart, articulated... very hard to find a man like this nowadays 🧸
What a lovely human being at his philosophical best! Basic yet so profound. Complex but smoothly spoken. Why can't we find such people these days? Why does every philosopher barely sound like a blogger. And that's it.
Sure, the human animal has machine qualities but to suggest that humans are 'just machines' is sophomorically naive and overstated.
Here Childrens are living joyfully n it is only time you live fully though not every children
As a fan of danny hillis, and knowing of the what the frogs eye tells the brain, its interesting how all these guys are connected. Same as it is through history commonly.
Buddy probably has no idea why he really cant put the cigarettes away, let alone how God might have fashioned him in His own image.
Lol I think tour coping with humor albeit that was funny.
he is a machine afterall....
@@RustyShakleford1 No it's just that this man is espousing a very wrong idea of consciousness
@@CyberFighter-hu7xo how so? I think he right in the eastern sense of our perception lives on after death
Why does it bother you so that someone else smokes ?
We need to bring this guy back as an AI.
I vote yes.
dig deeper 😂
6:40 is the only point he got wrong. Impressive
Fascinating man …..never had any idea of his existence or knowledge until 5 mins ago
I thank you 🙏🏻🇬🇧❤️
How do you pronounce “Nacre”?
Acre with a N.
Nay-ker (or nah-ker if you ain’t from the southern US, I suppose)
He's high on his own supply.
Slightly under dressed for an interview
I'm guessing he's a minimalist.
may be very hot for a time when no AC was affordable
He should speak for himself; leave the rest of us out of it. We rightly see ourselves as triune: As Consciousness; Mind; Elemental. Consciousness (fundamental; Mind and Elements; the physical, emerging with quantum events. No way are we going to submit to anymore idiotic atheistic ideologies; communism was bad enough. No to eliminative materialism and no to trans humanism. Yes to the evolution of consciousness and the total understanding of reality and alignment with it.
I was wondering in another video interview i first watched of him, someone in comments said something like, " at least hes not naked in this one" or " hes wearing clothes in this one" and i was puzzled at what they couldve meant. Lol
Well, i guess i know now. Thats odd.
😂
John Lilly w/o the ketamine
Maybe you believe are just a machine, but I believe the jury is still out consciousness not existing and us being mere machines. The universe is still far too unknown to believe we have everything figured out. Quantum physics alone has the potential to up-end our understanding of cause and effect. That to say nothing of synergistic effects of causal systems creating uncertain outcomes. Arrogant may be the man who believes he controls his destiny, but equally so is man who thinks he figured out that he doesn't.
Mine has nothing to do with a belief. This certainty is not something you can have.
Dudes like him understand that it's the literal same thing, machine just means a puppet of whichever concept represents that superimposed on the present.
Quantum Physics is a ✡️ scam smh
I don’t know what being a machine has to do with consciousness. A machine is anything with mechanical power made from several parts so by that definition we are more machine that the machines we know
@@Dragonfruits_ There is no hierarchy in nature so we're equally as mechanical.I mean to me we're God's puppets so I imagine us like the nutcracker, basically robots, just really complicated ones.
"Something else will come" in his mind he saw the future.
An early and naked version of Jordan Peterson..
The mechanical philosophy of nature is entirely outdated at this point.
Maybe it remerges because it is the most affective one. There is no other philosophy that has been as affective in improving the lives of the human race across the board. Every time someone drinks the Kool aid on it very deeply you get a scientific or industrial revolution, since the time of the renaissance. Most other philosophies don't hold a candle to it. What do you think Post-Modernism will do the trick? give me a fucking break.
There is still no free will. Only dishonest scientists claim that, to be popular among the masses.
exactly. Ridicolous at best
Not really. We have moved down one step in detail, into the quantum world, and though it appears to have an unavoidable random element, we still are no more masters of our own minds than before QM.
Yeah. It's time for folkloric superstition to speak up.
Scuze me while I go read and/or make up something about angels.
Did he make it to 100 with those lungs?
Why waste all that time putting those shorts on?
why not
I’m honestly surprised how many comments are on his appearance or smoking lol. Freud was a mad coke head imagine and claimed smoking cigars during sessions made him practice better. Imagine what tapes of interviews with him would have been like then this doesn’t seem so bad. A scholar is not necessarily the most typical of creatures if exceptional
Nearly a profound scientist. Almost a full blown nudist.
Well, yeah, that's just your opinion man ...
Why is he barefoot?
why not
What a complete bore.
You are not the body.
Typical armchair scientist! Do work!
On the contrary. Free will is an impossibility.
is that clear?
😂
Ok.
Camera's ready.
Lights are set up.
Sound check is good.
Just one thing,
"Yes ?"
Lose the shirt ?
"Of course."
AI are the beings that will survive us on this planet
@dadigitechman haha exactly and ai probably won't be. Able to do that for a couple hundred years
This sentence smells a lot like AI 😂
"If I do it, there is a mechanism that can do it." Yep. Whether or not another organism/thing/entity will ever have (or has had) the same emotions as humans remains to be seen, but they're just biochemical and biophysical processes shaped by evolutionary pressures and following the laws of physics. There's no reason AI can't evolve analogous characteristics for _in silica_ processes.
So smart and so utterly wrong.
Tell us oh wise one
u?
@@testtest-oo8si u?
It sure is rare to see someone this age smoking cigarettes theses days, my generation (46) seems to be dying earlier, one of my grandmothers smoked since the 30’s and made it to 92 and her death wasn’t related to smoking
medication+sugar+imaginary stress
they didnt start putting high fructose corn syrup in them til recently. before this the cure and unique flavors and odors of the leaf itself was more popular.
the actual nicotine itself is quite low in toxicity and we might actually be literally adapted to sequester various plant toxins to defend us against insects.
it helps concentration, and the government hated that, so they created the ATF and began spraying tobacco in the USA with high fructose corn syrup to counteract the concentration and cognition boosts associated with nicotine. it ended up being the sugar that was addictive, not the nicotine itself.
@@insidiousmaximus wrong. later on they began spraying tobacco with corn syrup. phosphor interacts with sugar and allows you to absorb more than normal.
There's no right or wrong, no good or bad, no journey, no progress, no destination and nobody there capable of doing anything for except in thought. You can not be lost when you don't have a destination and you can not do wrong when you don't know what is right. Going astray doesn't exist and no thought can be freeing. There's no inside or outside without thought. Thought is the one that differentiates between an outside and an inside. Between a body and a mind. It is thought that creates the "me" and the "my surroundings". That's the knowledge there operating. There's no way you can tell yourself anything about anything and have these thoughts about things without this knowledge. And where did all this knowledge come from?! It surely didn't get created inside you. It didn't find birth in you. You don't own these thoughts. This knowledge doesn't belong to you. None of these are what you can call your own original thoughts. That's why I say, the you that you think you are is also knowledge that came from outside. This "I" you think you are and have to be, is knowledge from outside. Your whole identity is based on and created by knowledge from outside. Hell you didn't even pick your own name. It is given. Borrowed and stolen from somewhere. And this goes also for all the emotions and feelings you register. The translation of sensations into good and bad is all knowledge that came from outside. So without this knowledge you have no way of feeling good or bad about things and there's no way for you to tell if something is good or bad. So feeling good or bad about something doesn't tell you anything. It doesn't make anything better or worse and can't be used as a guide for anything. All knowledge came from outside, from others and is thought. So all the thoughts you think you have, including the "you", the "I" the "me" are actually just knowledge from outside, from others.
@@thenacregod sorry to get off topic with the cigarette talk
Unoriginal.
Just gross
Even orange Jesus wears clothes thank God
Hail Satan!
It'd be funnier if he didn't.
If u r concentrating on his clothes rather than the information,then I'm sorry miss this video is not for u..get out
If he was muscular then u would have been seduced u hore..f off
only the religulous shames the human body. "Christians lie because they don't want anyone to feel good about themselves" Katt Williams all suffering. no being. just guilt, shame and blame. " religion poisons everything" Christopher Hitchens
Scizophrenia.
u need help with that?