I did repairs for a large middle-man furniture for over 20 years. This method works well but leaves too much color work after the glue sets. I made a jig to bore a slightly oversized hole (the depth of the holes depended on how far the bad grain extends) on both broken pieces. I sometimes had to use 12" bits to get the depth I needed. I would use a 1/2" bit for a 7/16" dowel, 5/8" bit for a 9/16" dowel, etc. I would cut my dowel to the needed length and insert it into the break with enough epoxy to fill the hole and clamp it together. The squeeze-out glued the broken area. After it set, a little clean-up, a little wood marker of the appropriate color ,and a generous application of spray lacquer finished the job. Great video. Keep up your fine work.
@@mercedesjerseygirl6100 the glue will hold the leg back together but it will most likely break again at the areas in the wood right next to the glue. That’s why he then proceeded to add reinforcement which gets a good grip into both sides of the leg from the break.
A very nice repair young man, a well thought out repair, there’s good money In furniture repair. That spline you made was ideal. I’m glad you realized, that a face to face gluing was not enough. You should look into finishing products like clear spray lacquer , toners, ground pigment, and how to use padding lacquer. You would never be without work.
Half of $500 is FREE?? Nice repair, reminds me of a few Gibson headstock repairs I've done.. Adding the spline makes the repair 10X stronger.. Way to go!! Most repairs are FREE for friends & family.. Hell it gave you something to do anyhow. And I know it takes longer to film & edit these videos than to do the work.. ROCK ON! Gary/Hk
500$ in my country is a full paycheck... And to give all that money for one chair, lol... 6 years ago we bought very good and comfortable chairs for 50€ each... Never broke...
watching more and more of your videos, and seeing constant reference to grain patterns it would be awesome if you did a full on video on grain, and strength. a fun strength test video like how you played around with the box joints and dovetails with the car jack.
Is it stronger to put the inserts on the sides of the legs where it will push and pull instead of one the sides where the insert would "bend" pushing against the sides of the slots? when leaning
In the past, I've passed up on furniture, even when it was free. After watching this video, I may have to re-evaluate my thinking when given the next offer.
Very interesting fix I'll keep that in mind if my wooden chairs break, before this I would of just glued it then drill some holes and countersink wood screws in it, then try to cover up the abomination, fail and give it to goodwill haha
Hey Matthias i have heard you mention that you have had to make trips to Canadian tire which means you live in canada as do I but where in canada do you live
After the first 1:00, I thought this was going to be a *FAIL!* video. I never would have believed that this fix would work, even with the spline. No leaning back on two legs in this chair!!
Well, you fixed it good. I'm surprised that the manufacturer didn't foresee the grain direction problem. One thing is for sure, the chair will not break at that point again.
One question left - how strong is fixed leg? Can you please make two tests with your bath scale and car jack? We know you can fix broken chair legs nicely :)
Wenns am falschen Grain liegen würde, hätt er nicht so brechen dürfen! Das liegt wohl eher am lumpigen Holz , das wo überhaupt kein Grain nicht hat. Und deshalb haben Sie es richtig gemacht mit einem nachträglich eingefügten Grain.
Hi Mathias, I've been following your site for quite some time now and I really enjoy when you build some incredible contraptions like marble machines and other (although most of your work has practical appliances). When I saw this movie Amazing Flexible Wooden Bowl I instantly thought that it is something you might enjoy building, using some fancy wood perhaps.
I don't know his reasoning, but I could see getting the holes exactly right could be tough. On the other hand, i could also see him building a cool and complicated machine to do it perfectly
Wow, that is really awesome. I agree that this is probably the best way to go with the repair, but couldn't be possible (and probably enough) to just insert one or two dowels perpendicular to the glue line? I'm asking just in case I come across a similar problem (and I don't own a router yet) :)
The dowel couldn't go very deep that way and you'd just move the problem up or down a few centimeters. And mechanically the center of a post is not strained at all when bending while the opposite outsides or compressed and strained. So a single dowel would not take much of the load.
Shannariano: Essentially, you are correct. I've done lots of these repairs, and the important thing is to make the mortise deep enough to get past the area of the most bending load when weight is applied at an angle. It is not an easy repair to proper align, but careful measuring and patience will help you get it right. I can guarantee you that one of two things happened here... either the chair was dropped on the foot of that leg with force, or someone of significant mass leaned back on the rear legs. This kind of a break almost never happens under proper use, even when the grain runs in the 'wrong direction,' unless there is some other defect in the wood. And now we finally see an example of why our mothers yelled at us for leaning back on our chairs...
It isn't. But it's not an end grain joint, it's a side grain joint because the grain is all in the wrong direction. Which is why the reinforcement is needed.
$500 EACH? Come on, Rick... maybe $500 for the SET, eh? Nice repair if the appearance is not that important. Best would have been to create, essentially, a loose tenon joint in the break. I've done dozens of this exact kind of repair. It takes practice, and aligning the mortises can be a challenge, but you can make an almost invisible job of it if done right.
If I was your friend, I think I'd take a close look at the back legs of the other chairs of the set. Might be some more ticking time bombs in there. Not that I'd necessarily pre-emptively start routering the whole set, but I might move that chair around the table away from the rambunctious boy who keeps tilting his chair. :-)
At the beginning, I thought you said you would repair it for half the original cost of $500. Then, at the end, you said you did it for free... Am I missing something? Great video for do it yourselfers and please keep them coming!
Sorry. I didn't get that. I know typing conversations through social media is very tricky to convey a true emotion. I did not mean anything negative. I love your show and listening you reason through your work, from one engineer to another. Thank you.
rdouthwaite It makes me not want to ask questions when I am made fun of, but I'll take it as a joke and try to not let it bother me. I guess I set myself up for that one. I was asking a serious question and hoping for a serious answer. I really like this channel and want to continue feeling welcome here.
U used sawdust..I just wonder y not internal towels of wood or metal...I watch the carriage wheel master build a new piece for a worn out Oregon carriage that he was restoring for a lawn decoration.i just wondered y not put a dowel in the broken piece so b original lawn ornament.but I'm not the master..
thanks man, my legs feels a lot better now
sure
I feel up to the challenge now that my leg's fixed
+Wooden Chair *Sits on you * .... wait are you calling me fat?
I'm calling me thin and weak
my turn, ..you know what they say:chair and chair alike.
my gf is a table
I did repairs for a large middle-man furniture for over 20 years. This method works well but leaves too much color work after the glue sets. I made a jig to bore a slightly oversized hole (the depth of the holes depended on how far the bad grain extends) on both broken pieces. I sometimes had to use 12" bits to get the depth I needed. I would use a 1/2" bit for a 7/16" dowel, 5/8" bit for a 9/16" dowel, etc. I would cut my dowel to the needed length and insert it into the break with enough epoxy to fill the hole and clamp it together. The squeeze-out glued the broken area. After it set, a little clean-up, a little wood marker of the appropriate color ,and a generous application of spray lacquer finished the job. Great video. Keep up your fine work.
Seems the way 👍🏻
This is the way
Free is very cost effective. I believe $500 each is a lot for a chair like that.
"As good as new but unfortunately, not good enough" LOL
I did not understand that comment. Sounded like it was fixed and then proceeds to use all his fancy machines the average person does not own.
@@mercedesjerseygirl6100 the glue will hold the leg back together but it will most likely break again at the areas in the wood right next to the glue. That’s why he then proceeded to add reinforcement which gets a good grip into both sides of the leg from the break.
@@sssiod in that case then, if the fracture is more longitudinal (that is, along the length of the leg), will glue be enough?
A very nice repair young man, a well thought out repair, there’s good money In furniture repair. That spline you made was ideal. I’m glad you realized, that a face to face gluing was not enough. You should look into finishing products like clear spray lacquer , toners, ground pigment, and how to use padding lacquer. You would never be without work.
It actually made me wince when you used that table saw. So glad you're a big time TH-camr now.
What’s wrong with the table saw?
@@davidmcgrath6507 Well, actually, I don't remember...
Half of $500 is FREE??
Nice repair, reminds me of a few Gibson headstock repairs I've done..
Adding the spline makes the repair 10X stronger..
Way to go!! Most repairs are FREE for friends & family..
Hell it gave you something to do anyhow. And I know it takes longer to film & edit these videos than to do the work.. ROCK ON! Gary/Hk
500$ in my country is a full paycheck... And to give all that money for one chair, lol... 6 years ago we bought very good and comfortable chairs for 50€ each... Never broke...
jel realno da sam na ovo naiso?🤣
@@kik52112 je
"This is now good as new... which, unfortunately, isn't good enough." :D Loved that part.
Nice. Most of the time you can get away with just glueing. Nice to see you went that extra bit to make it right.
Very nice repair on that chair. Matching the finish is the hardest part of the job for me.
I knew that you weren't done after simply gluing the leg back together haha
i was expecting a screw inside the leg :D
and pocket holes
Excellent video. Used this technique to repair a chair back. Used a flush trim bit to clean-up excess.
Thanks for posting.
watching more and more of your videos, and seeing constant reference to grain patterns it would be awesome if you did a full on video on grain, and strength. a fun strength test video like how you played around with the box joints and dovetails with the car jack.
you definitely have a gift. i am blown away.
Such practical projects and super fine work.
Is it stronger to put the inserts on the sides of the legs where it will push and pull instead of one the sides where the insert would "bend" pushing against the sides of the slots? when leaning
Big fan of your work, very nicely done
Did you put sawdust on top after the glue for the added support piece?
In the past, I've passed up on furniture, even when it was free. After watching this video, I may have to re-evaluate my thinking when given the next offer.
I have learned a great deal from this video! Thank you Mathias
Awww Matt love your ideas!
Was thinking "fixing a broken chair leg! That's it!?" Now thinking "Ahh Wandel does it again!" Thanks Bro. I Never miss an upload.
Nice job, on the chair repair. I was wondering why you did not use dowels. Matching the leg of the chair is real challenge.
Thanks for the video I found it very informative. What a about a cylindrical shaped leg?
I like it. At 3:12 why dont use a router trim bit!
That was really amazing. I wish had this skill
Wow fantastic video! Well done!!!
Very interesting fix I'll keep that in mind if my wooden chairs break, before this I would of just glued it then drill some holes and countersink wood screws in it, then try to cover up the abomination, fail and give it to goodwill haha
Does it matter if the spline is made of a different wood species from the chair?
I liked the way the repair looked before it was hidden. I think they would have looked nice if all the chairs were reinforced like that.
Proper fix! :)
What’s the name of the glue that you used ?
$500 for one chair or the whole set and table ?
Hopefully for the set...
Solid wood furniture is costly now. I paid $250 per chair 7 years ago. A similar repair now is the same price.
Hey Matthias i have heard you mention that you have had to make trips to Canadian tire which means you live in canada as do I but where in canada do you live
500 each? Why? I bought couple of chairs for like 30 each and legs were done from solid wood.
I was about to say, that poor bastard got taken
After the first 1:00, I thought this was going to be a *FAIL!* video. I never would have believed that this fix would work, even with the spline. No leaning back on two legs in this chair!!
I kept looking at the time and knew there was going to be something more to it than simply gluing it back together.
Leaning back on two legs???? What are you 5 years old??? Your not supposed to be "leaning back" on these type of chairs in the first place!
Using callipers to set table saw !! Brain just went DUH!
Great job there Matthias. But I think I've seen chair like that sold at ikea.
Well, you fixed it good. I'm surprised that the manufacturer didn't foresee the grain direction problem. One thing is for sure, the chair will not break at that point again.
Now I don't need to throw a broken legg cchaaairr! Wow! Good video sir...
(Y) Thanks for all you videos.
Is it possible to have drilled a hole in the chair leg and used a dowel instead of making splines?
Possible, but not as good a repair. I want the reinforcement to be entirely on the tension side of the leg
this guy is good!
One question left - how strong is fixed leg? Can you please make two tests with your bath scale and car jack? We know you can fix broken chair legs nicely :)
$500 for a chair...that can't be right. Great fix though.
Hello. What kind of glue is best to use?
whichever glue is best for the application. That's why there are so many different types of glue.
I belive thats one hell of a repair
what abut drilling a hole down the middle ov the leg and inserting a dowel rod ?
Please someone help, what type of glue was used??!
It's just regular yellow glue/carpenter's glue
Most likely, judging by the colour of the glue; he used Titebond III. It also dries in darker colour than regular yellow glue.
Wonderful technique
Phew, he did it for free in the end.
si muy buena esa reparacion gracias por su enseñanza
Which gum use wood
You did it for free cause you seem like an awesome guy! :)
He did it for $250.00
lol, I guess I'm a little slow! :P
Lee Spoon watch the end. No one charges their friend $250 to fix a chair.
Looks like a strong repair.
What kind of glue is that
Wow, that's some sideways manufacturing there. Good job fixing that train wreck.
What glue did you use in the beginning?
Jozy DLC wood glue
how did you made the exact color of the chair??
Taro O watch the video
Matthias Wandel I think he ment how did you find and mixed the color, I didn't see it in the video.
+Bobany It's clear that he used acrylic paints. By mixing Raw Sienna and Burnt Umber, he got the color close enough to the chair
+The Painting Piper Thanks. I was wondering how he matched the colors.
Hey Mr Wandel I really enjoy your videos thanks and keep'm commin...
Do you sharpen your own chisels? If so, I want to see a video on that too.
Wenns am falschen Grain liegen würde, hätt er nicht so brechen dürfen! Das liegt wohl eher am lumpigen Holz , das wo überhaupt kein Grain nicht hat. Und deshalb haben Sie es richtig gemacht mit einem nachträglich eingefügten Grain.
Hi Mathias, I've been following your site for quite some time now and I really enjoy when you build some incredible contraptions like marble machines and other (although most of your work has practical appliances). When I saw this movie Amazing Flexible Wooden Bowl I instantly thought that it is something you might enjoy building, using some fancy wood perhaps.
Nice job, your a good friend
Awesome MATT!!!!! but why not use a dowel or domino in between and avoid the cosmetic touch ups?.....
I don't know his reasoning, but I could see getting the holes exactly right could be tough. On the other hand, i could also see him building a cool and complicated machine to do it perfectly
If the glue is stronger than the wood then what good is the second step?
Kenny 劉健聰 He should just make a chair out of glue.
It prevents the same failure happening elsewhere in that piece.
love the "whoa! I can fix it for half of that!"
I bought the same darn chairs. But my wife threw away the other part. Any way to fix this with out the needed part?..
Muito bom, obrigado por compartilhar!
What do you do when a similar break is on the very bott9m of the chair leg
Yeah.. They weren't $500 each
noob, he ment $5000 it was a "verbal misstype" :p
He worked for the government and bought them with tax payers money.
what type of glue did you use?
davielove11 wood glue
@@davidmcgrath6507 Thanks.
Wow, that is really awesome.
I agree that this is probably the best way to go with the repair, but couldn't be possible (and probably enough) to just insert one or two dowels perpendicular to the glue line?
I'm asking just in case I come across a similar problem (and I don't own a router yet) :)
The problem was the grain going in the wrong direction. this affects the whole leg. :)
The dowel couldn't go very deep that way and you'd just move the problem up or down a few centimeters. And mechanically the center of a post is not strained at all when bending while the opposite outsides or compressed and strained. So a single dowel would not take much of the load.
Shannariano: Essentially, you are correct. I've done lots of these repairs, and the important thing is to make the mortise deep enough to get past the area of the most bending load when weight is applied at an angle. It is not an easy repair to proper align, but careful measuring and patience will help you get it right.
I can guarantee you that one of two things happened here... either the chair was dropped on the foot of that leg with force, or someone of significant mass leaned back on the rear legs. This kind of a break almost never happens under proper use, even when the grain runs in the 'wrong direction,' unless there is some other defect in the wood. And now we finally see an example of why our mothers yelled at us for leaning back on our chairs...
3:15=Canadian! :) The word "out" is a revealer for you folks! :)
I think "woodgears.ca" is another clue too :)
I suppose there is that! :)
***** I just cannot believe I randomly found your comment. Huge fan :)
I went back to 3:15 and did not hear anything unusual but then I am Canadian.
Shouldn't it be easier to drill holes in both pieces of the legs and use a wooden dowel to join and reinforce them?
Try it and you will realize it isn't.
Okey. Would it still be sterdy with the wooden dowel or would the dowel be to weak?
Easier? No! You have one chance to get the angles right. ONE!
Actually IT IS.
@@MrGnom99 it would be if the end grain wasnt all curly
WAS THE CHAIR IN A BAR FIGHT?
Why do you simply put a dowel into the leg of the chair?
Rick sounds like a salesman's wet dream
this is advanced! I am trying to fix my broken chair leg... maybe a metal clamp around it forever?
how can a end grain glue up be "good as new" without re enforcement?
It isn't. But it's not an end grain joint, it's a side grain joint because the grain is all in the wrong direction. Which is why the reinforcement is needed.
Hey, what's that face on the seat of the chair at 3min37seg?
Brilliant. Thanks
$500 EACH? Come on, Rick... maybe $500 for the SET, eh? Nice repair if the appearance is not that important. Best would have been to create, essentially, a loose tenon joint in the break. I've done dozens of this exact kind of repair. It takes practice, and aligning the mortises can be a challenge, but you can make an almost invisible job of it if done right.
well you know Rick
If I was your friend, I think I'd take a close look at the back legs of the other chairs of the set. Might be some more ticking time bombs in there. Not that I'd necessarily pre-emptively start routering the whole set, but I might move that chair around the table away from the rambunctious boy who keeps tilting his chair. :-)
nice repair and for free !!!
with the orientation of the curly grain ill bet more legs need fixing in the future if the owner is not careful...
Oh is that when you find the back legs 🙀
You may do this work different way. Drill the hole at the base and insert piece of metal rod or wooden dowel, I think wooden dowel will be better
Everyone keeps suggesting dowels. A tremendously bad ideao for this repar (see some of the more knowledgeable replies as to why)
Be honest. was this a Chinese export?
At the beginning, I thought you said you would repair it for half the original cost of $500. Then, at the end, you said you did it for free... Am I missing something?
Great video for do it yourselfers and please keep them coming!
Perhaps a sense of humor?
Matthias Wandel Beat me to it by seconds...
Sorry. I didn't get that. I know typing conversations through social media is very tricky to convey a true emotion. I did not mean anything negative. I love your show and listening you reason through your work, from one engineer to another. Thank you.
rdouthwaite
It makes me not want to ask questions when I am made fun of, but I'll take it as a joke and try to not let it bother me. I guess I set myself up for that one. I was asking a serious question and hoping for a serious answer. I really like this channel and want to continue feeling welcome here.
Thanks Alex. I agree.
A few more details would have been nice. Type of wood? How to make without the flaw? I know there's something else missing?
Don't mess up
I think he means $500 Canadian
did you say 500$ a chair?!
And he bought "a bunch". Wow.
i dont see that chair being worth 500$? did St joseph build it or something lol
0:08 So you are charging him $250? 3:43 What?
*****
I know, I was just goofing.
Perfect!
If you're good at something... never do it for free.- The Joker
Once you give one away for free, they expect them all for free.
U used sawdust..I just wonder y not internal towels of wood or metal...I watch the carriage wheel master build a new piece for a worn out Oregon carriage that he was restoring for a lawn decoration.i just wondered y not put a dowel in the broken piece so b original lawn ornament.but I'm not the master..
$500 ea for dining chairs? Did I hear that right?