Nice to see a human being who cares about the enviroment. If this was in Brasil, the person would simply shut the stream and build hydro DAM in order to support a bigger genie to obtain more watts. Fantastic video series. All the best to you and family!
Good on you for trying something so new for yourself....and seeking out the help to get better at it. Lifelong learning is the key. Thanks for the video right on time as well. 10pm AEST. Enjoy your Monday
@@LandtoHouse Ive just installed my first solar battery set and am working a plan on some ram pumps to move some water around my property. Will let you know how I go. Hope all is well in NC
Great video series. Add a small pv array and you'll cover all ur demands on that leg of power during the day no prob. And probably at night on just the 1 nozzle. Well done
Awesome! Great job, go for 3 nozzles! Love the almost culmination of the series! I'll get some pics on water pumping page of some of water screens that people have built in the Kittitas Valley for irrigation purposes, to continue the other conversation that my OCD won't let go of.
Is it possible to have pressure on 2 nozzles coming from opposite sides to keep an equal opposing torque pressure against the bearings inside the unit. Even if each nozzle was only open half way or full. I would try to keep the pressure equal on each side to make your bearings last longer on the Turbine. You don't want all the torque on just one side of the unit from the water. It will last a lot longer for you. I hope I was able to convey the message correctly to you.
Interesting series with a lot fewer missteps than I make, it shows the research pays. Just a suggestion: The jets on the opposite side of the turbine are on a narrower feedpipe and it's likely that the pressure from the step down in size would increase the water jet speed for the same volume. Possibly worth concentrating on using them rather than the larger jets, or even using narrower jets on the bigger pipes. Doubling the speed of the jet provides x4 times the kinetic energy hitting the turbine (mass x velocity That won't translate exactly for narrow jets as less water-mass is going through the narrower jet, but should be easier to maintain a higher jet velocity to get the power you need than increasing the volume of water. Good job though, I enjoyed it.
There were a few big mistakes that caused the project to be a month longer than it should have been. But its working well! Soon I will be installing another nozzle that is 3/16" on the side. It should boost the power to 250 watts.
Wonderful project, I have watched the entire series. Little recommendation, when you open one nozzle, you have a bit of overflow, when two are open, there's underflow. It would be cool if you can control the opening and closing of the nozzles depending on the pressure using some microcontroller. You'll also be able to get the maximum power out of the turbine by opening and closing the nozzles at the right time.
Thank you for watching! Yes I am actually working with Langston alternative power to get a few different size nozzles. That will allow different flow rates. Perhaps someday I can try the micro controller.
I'm planning on something like this... I was just only planning a 220volt inverter w/limiter instead of your 110v inverter w/limiter. If (I really mean "IF") I understand power companies correctly, you need to push out of the inverter what your house takes in. Meaning, if one leg of the 220v(110v x 2 = 220v) coming in the house pulls a lot more than the other leg, you are charged which one Pulls the most. You pay for the most on whatever leg. Normally, they are about the same. Your house breaker box has 1/2 of your house one 110v leg and 1/2 on the other 110v leg. thanks for your thoughts...
Hmm, an idea, use an Arduino (or similar) to monitor the pressure. Using that, you could connect servo motors or install solenoids to automatically control the amount of jets in use. this would mean you are always getting 100% out of your system. again, just an idea. love how it turned out though!
i had an idea like this but using float switches in the main tank higher the level of water fo more valves open should be just a simple relay switcing system
@@LandtoHouse a suggestion I don't know if it would work or how well it would work because of how closely it borders on from perpetual motion is your waste water after it leaves your Hydro generator is to send it into a ramp pump pumping it back up to the top and recycling the water. Maybe this would allow you the extra water you need to open two or more valves?
Love the videos and I find this series inspiring. I'd do something like this just to be able to do it if I had a good creek. I think I missed something, you have 5 batteries => 60v @25% charged, 63.5v @100% charged, CC output for 'float charge' at 67.5v, I don't see how it can get up to 72v you mentioned as full charge to cut on the inverter....
Would it not be possible to get more water of the creek into your intake? I had to go back to Intake Screen Box Build and Install Micro Hydro 1/10, seems it would be possible to get more into it? Or do you only want to use a certain amount of water and keep the rest in the creek? Great project and well done!
I actually have a plan on getting more water. Most of the time the summer flow is low and I need more water. In winter there is more water than the 2" penstock can carry.
i would of like to of scene you turn all nozzles on see what prassure drops to if it does not drop then see what wattage your getting the jump to 300 plus watts suprised me
Currently there are four 1/4" nozzles in there. That would be 48gpm. My penstock can only flow 39.5 ish gpm. The jets would not allow it to work at full. Now when I install a couple 3/16" nozzles we will get some results.
The overflow at the turbine would be a long way to get water back to the source. Now I do have some small nozzles to use more of the overflow at the barrel.
Nice one :-) Anyway, what about an electronically adjustable valve for each nozzle? Yeah, a different water distribution scheme would be needed but then you can then fine-tune which nozzle (that can be a different size) is consuming how much water. You can also have an electronic sensor to check penstock pressure and adjust the system accordingly. Cheers ;-)
I must ask this... Is your current house meter have the ability to monitor both ways? If not, that 2,800 wH that the kill a watt just showed... Was actually seen as a chargeable wH. So you may just be making your electric bill higher that normal. When I installed PV 5 years ago. One of the crews left the system on. And the customer’s electric bill was more than double that month. So the PV had to pay for it and shut off the system until the electric company got out there and swapped the meter out.
Land to House I think it’ll be a good idea to turn off all breakers except for the breaker the inverter is attached to. And use a high current device, one that the inverter will match. Take a picture of your meter and turn that device on for 1 hour. After the hour take an other picture of the meter and turn the inverter off. Leave the device on and after an other hour take an other picture of the meter. I am willing to bet that there is a difference between the tests. When the inverter was on, it doubled the usage. And the meter saw it like that as well, thus charged double the usage.
This inverter is designed to read the house usage. The inverter power is ever slightly different than grid power so that the house pulls from it first. Let's say the house is using 100 watts. The inverter will feed 95 watts and the grid will feed 5 watts.
Land to House I understand what you’re saying. But unfortunately the electric company meter may not see it like that. It may see 195 watts being used, not 5.
as long as you put the water back into the creek when your through with it, what does it matter if you have overflow at the head??? and why not run all the nozzels all the time???
@@LandtoHouse Cheers for the reply only stumbled across this method last night and pretty keen to look into more.. my thinking is that why couldn't I set this up with a tank water set up and use a pump that is low wattage and just recycle the water as i don't have a creek through my property
8+ kilowatt hours a day is pretty awesome and will pay for itself in no time! Since you aren't sending power back onto the grid, where does excess power go if batteries are full and house is using much less than 300 watts? Is there a place you are dumping excess power? Look forward to you next hydro build!
At the moment our water supply is enough to make 200 watts and that comes out to 4.8kwh a day. I hope to get up to 400 watts in winter. From my understanding when the batteries hit float the charge controller slows the turbine way down. But we use enough power in the house that its not in float long.
@@LandtoHouse If you're putting out 400 in the winter and, for some reason, the house load drops quite low that power has to go somewhere, or something's going to get quite hot. Does the inverter have the ability to shift the load to a shunt? When I lived on microhydro I used a couple of $20 small 1000w space heaters in my garage as a "dump." They almost never turned on but when they did I'm glad the power had somewhere to go. I like your system design! The batteries act kind of like a flywheel. Not sure of the power rates in your area, but that constant 200-400 watts can really save a lot of money especially if you have a tiered rate system.
@@et5222 since both of you do not mind to mess with water why do you not put water to water heat pump there too? Some people make those heat pumps for less than $500 and you will not find COP 4 just laying on on side of road
I am all for generating your own power, I have been working part time with solar panels but have not yet completed my build yet. I am curious as to how much you have spent and how long you project it will take to break even or come out ahead. Thanks, keep up the good work!
Solar is next on my list. I will use the same batteries as the hydro. I went all out on this install and spent a lot. Around $3k. The pay back is going to be 5 to 7 years. (The actual payback with TH-cam videos is more like 2 years)
Is that turbine a brushed or brushless system? I’m only asking because of possible recurring maintenance on the device itself. Also, could you increase the size of your PVC from the sluice box to the collection barrel to increase your gpms, therefore allowing you to run 2 jets year round? Or is it a water source issue?
I am not sure about brush vs brushless. I hear the bearings need replacing after 5 years. My penstock can only carry 40gpm. So that is the limiting factor. The most power I could ever make is 580 watts.
Land to House That’s actually not that bad then. Bearing are not terrible. Brushes can burn out pretty quick but they’re kind of becoming obsolete tech over the last decade. I am still enthralled by micro hydro. I’m excited to see your setup evolve in the future. Hopefully you can go fully off grid at some point. Does French abroad Electric give credit if you put electricity back to the grid?
Hi Seth, What is the head height to your barrel and have you measured the gpm coming out of the waste pipe below the turbine with 1 nozzle and 2 nozzles? Thanks!
Ok so my ram pump works just fine only with a low head pressure. But its a slow output, so when I increase the head pressure to get more water through my 3/4 pump. But when i open the delivery pipe even just a little bit I can't get the pump to run again. I know that I have enough back pressure so whats my issue?
Sounds like you are having back pressure issues. When you try to lift with too much head pressure it causes the water to exit faster than its entering.
Put mv is worth it to try add another intake seriouswite the onw u had. Try to test thath then the the intake owerflow get used again in another intake. Mb then u get more water to the barrel
Why are you feeding the DC power into a charge controller and then into the battery bank, not first into the inverter and the excess energy that is not going into the house will go into the batteries via the charge controller? I am no electrical engineer but I thought that was how a solar+storage system works, as it reduces the number of cycles on the battery.
So because I've always been pretty ignorant about power, what is my questions would be: when the inverter is not on you're just using the electric company's power? And if that is the case then having a more productive/efficient Creek would make it to where you would never need a power company again???
The inverter pulls power from the battery and supplements the house power usage. When we use less in the house the inverter limits the output. The inverter can only output around 800w. There are plenty of times we are using 2000+ watts in the house.
@@LandtoHouse great series bro!! So are you pushing power back on the grid? And if not does the outback slow the turbine down to produce just what you are using?
The charge controller is making as much power as possible go into the batteries. The inverter reads the amps going into the house and feeds as much as possible to match that (up to 800watts). When the house is not using much power the inverter limits the output.
@@LandtoHouse ok thanks did you get your inverter from Langston as well? And also after watching your video on the little green tiller I bought one and must say it has a lot of power for such a little machine!! Very impressed!!
⚡️oho almost 200 wats. mot bad especailly for firs project and taht sanll creek. if you have more creeks on your prperrty you can interrelate them to same pipe and get couple more of little turbines ro one one couple small and one bigger. i have heart that electric truks have very good batteries and you can byou them very very cheap price if they are used because they discard them when they do not load over 80% and that is very good for homr use when you charge then littlebit all the time. or maybe couple of used electric car batteries beause many of these have even 100 kwh capacity when thwy are but i don`t know what used electric car batteries cost. very cool project and it`s have no impact to nature like the creek where you got all your water. i hope all go as planned and wish you nice moment with your gear, because i love to do all kind of constructions old electric component. be carefull with voltage especially with AC (alternative current) hello from one electrician from finland, ⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️
The only part I don’t like is the plug pins that go into the receptacle. They are potentially live and exposed when connecting and disconnecting. That is not foolproof and we’re all capable of being foolish.
365 days times 24 hours = 8760 Hours in a year - 8760 divided by 22 hours = 398.181818 x .45 cents = $179.18 of saving in a year.... All that time and cost of the materials doesn't seem worth the trouble.
So far its averaging $20 savings a month. That's $240 a year. After some modifications it will make 450 to 500w. That is more like $45 savings a month for the winter and spring.
@@LandtoHouse Yeah I just watched your cost break down video. The real question is how long will the generator last? If you have to replace it every 5 years or less then i'm not sure if it's worth it. I feel like if it can pay for it self in 5 years it's definitely worth it. but I've spent 5k on really dumb stuff so if it pay for it self in 10 years I guess it might be worth it too. Again how much maintenance and how often are you working on it and/or replacing things is the real questions. I guess only time will tell.
I would think that 2 smaller jets at 180 deg would be better than 1 large jet. No scientific reason just gut feeling. Oh I'm so thirsty for some reason😉. 🦀
You saved 50 cents per day x 365 = $182.50 per year with a project budget of how many thousands of dollars. 10 years later, the maintenance costs will put you in the red again, all while robbing nature of a stream being used by all sorts of deer and other animals. Sounds about right, huh?
@@LandtoHouse I'm quite sure the audience is not going to get it paid for when they install their own system, right? So, I'd be concerned about misleading them into a poor investment without telling them the actual cost savings and how minimal it really is. I can imagine what happens when you run a 2.5 ton air conditioner with it. They'd save more by not running an AC or buying one in that matter, which would be the better advice. Also, did you get in touch with the DNR when you decided to divert a natural resource? You never touched on that subject, or did you?
@@BelleRiverHeating A couple videos after this series is done I do a full walk through showing the cost between what I paid and what you can expect to pay As an average consumer. A system like this is more ideal if you are off grid and unable to get grid power to your place. For example I Filmed an off grid yurt. His system is making 250w as the only power out there.
@@BelleRiverHeating There is a Spring just below the the source of my intake. There's only about 20' of Creek that does not have much water. The water is still flowing in the Creek just through a pipe that returns to the Creek.
Nice to see a human being who cares about the enviroment. If this was in Brasil, the person would simply shut the stream and build hydro DAM in order to support a bigger genie to obtain more watts. Fantastic video series. All the best to you and family!
Good on you for trying something so new for yourself....and seeking out the help to get better at it. Lifelong learning is the key. Thanks for the video right on time as well. 10pm AEST. Enjoy your Monday
Hydro power is something I have wanted to do for several years. Like 8 years. Its so nice to actually have the turbine running.
@@LandtoHouse Ive just installed my first solar battery set and am working a plan on some ram pumps to move some water around my property. Will let you know how I go. Hope all is well in NC
Yes let me know. Things are good here!
Great video series. Add a small pv array and you'll cover all ur demands on that leg of power during the day no prob. And probably at night on just the 1 nozzle. Well done
Great job.
If you need more kWh it might be possible to upgrade by placing a turbine in series using the water that comes out of the turbine.
Nice insulation inside box
Hi I love your projects is very good amazing
Awesome project ...👍
Thank you! It's working wonderful.
Awesome! Great job, go for 3 nozzles! Love the almost culmination of the series! I'll get some pics on water pumping page of some of water screens that people have built in the Kittitas Valley for irrigation purposes, to continue the other conversation that my OCD won't let go of.
This winter/spring I can run the big tests when there is a lot more water.
Thanks for sharing ur knowledge. May God bless ur soul.
Cool system. You may want to look into lightening strike protection on your feed cable if you don't have it already.
Thank you so much for chronicling this project of yours. Amazingly helpful!
Thank you for watching! I learned a lot myself.
Is it possible to have pressure on 2 nozzles coming from opposite sides to keep an equal opposing torque pressure against the bearings inside the unit. Even if each nozzle was only open half way or full. I would try to keep the pressure equal on each side to make your bearings last longer on the Turbine. You don't want all the torque on just one side of the unit from the water. It will last a lot longer for you.
I hope I was able to convey the message correctly to you.
Interesting series with a lot fewer missteps than I make, it shows the research pays.
Just a suggestion: The jets on the opposite side of the turbine are on a narrower feedpipe and it's likely that the pressure from the step down in size would increase the water jet speed for the same volume. Possibly worth concentrating on using them rather than the larger jets, or even using narrower jets on the bigger pipes. Doubling the speed of the jet provides x4 times the kinetic energy hitting the turbine (mass x velocity That won't translate exactly for narrow jets as less water-mass is going through the narrower jet, but should be easier to maintain a higher jet velocity to get the power you need than increasing the volume of water. Good job though, I enjoyed it.
There were a few big mistakes that caused the project to be a month longer than it should have been. But its working well! Soon I will be installing another nozzle that is 3/16" on the side. It should boost the power to 250 watts.
Wonderful project, I have watched the entire series. Little recommendation, when you open one nozzle, you have a bit of overflow, when two are open, there's underflow. It would be cool if you can control the opening and closing of the nozzles depending on the pressure using some microcontroller. You'll also be able to get the maximum power out of the turbine by opening and closing the nozzles at the right time.
Thank you for watching! Yes I am actually working with Langston alternative power to get a few different size nozzles. That will allow different flow rates. Perhaps someday I can try the micro controller.
I'm planning on something like this... I was just only planning a 220volt inverter w/limiter instead of your 110v inverter w/limiter. If (I really mean "IF") I understand power companies correctly, you need to push out of the inverter what your house takes in. Meaning, if one leg of the 220v(110v x 2 = 220v) coming in the house pulls a lot more than the other leg, you are charged which one Pulls the most. You pay for the most on whatever leg. Normally, they are about the same. Your house breaker box has 1/2 of your house one 110v leg and 1/2 on the other 110v leg. thanks for your thoughts...
Hmm, an idea, use an Arduino (or similar) to monitor the pressure. Using that, you could connect servo motors or install solenoids to automatically control the amount of jets in use. this would mean you are always getting 100% out of your system. again, just an idea. love how it turned out though!
i had an idea like this but using float switches in the main tank higher the level of water fo more valves open should be just a simple relay switcing system
There are systems like that. For mine I think that I will just set it and leave it.
Really enjoying the series, I'm gutted I don't live near a river haha! One day I'll go off grid.
Thank you for watching! When I purchased this property it was because of the water.
@@LandtoHouse a suggestion I don't know if it would work or how well it would work because of how closely it borders on from perpetual motion is your waste water after it leaves your Hydro generator is to send it into a ramp pump pumping it back up to the top and recycling the water. Maybe this would allow you the extra water you need to open two or more valves?
The head pressure of the hydro unit is 163 feet. The flow rate back to the intake would be very low.
Loved it. Great series
Thank you.
Good job 👍
Thank you.
Excellent. Congrats on this wonderful outcome. This is very interesting. Keep em coming.:)
Thank you. 2 more hydro installs next
Love the videos and I find this series inspiring. I'd do something like this just to be able to do it if I had a good creek.
I think I missed something, you have 5 batteries => 60v @25% charged, 63.5v @100% charged, CC output for 'float charge' at 67.5v, I don't see how it can get up to 72v you mentioned as full charge to cut on the inverter....
Would it not be possible to get more water of the creek into your intake? I had to go back to Intake Screen Box Build and Install Micro Hydro 1/10, seems it would be possible to get more into it? Or do you only want to use a certain amount of water and keep the rest in the creek? Great project and well done!
I actually have a plan on getting more water. Most of the time the summer flow is low and I need more water. In winter there is more water than the 2" penstock can carry.
hi you use any curve power for the midnite using it for hydro or leave it as it is powered with solar??
i would of like to of scene you turn all nozzles on see what prassure drops to if it does not drop then see what wattage your getting the jump to 300 plus watts suprised me
Currently there are four 1/4" nozzles in there. That would be 48gpm. My penstock can only flow 39.5 ish gpm. The jets would not allow it to work at full. Now when I install a couple 3/16" nozzles we will get some results.
it needs electronic valves to turn on/off nozzles as needed
one thing i wounder is. is it better to have more jets on 1 turbine or is it better to have more tubines with an adjustable needle valve on each
In my case in don't have much water. So it is hard to say.
I don't understand; does the turbine feed the house or does the power co. feed it, or both? How does it know witch to use?????
Recently watched all series and very interesting. What size (Amp hour) batteries, Charge controller size and inverter size have you used?
Do a PV install series after this too
Yes! I already have all the stuff to install. I just need to film.
Am eager to see that,I'll install Pv too this weeknd before the hydro
@@LandtoHouse how many watts of solar you plan to install ? I think you had some solar panel laying around at some point
Nice! Solar seems like it is a lot easier.
I already have 4 panels installed for a total of 1000 watts. (800 realistically) now i need to get to the wire and electronics
That's good wattage.
Yes. I am looking to have even more this winter.
Hi Can you not pump the overflow bak up to the creak. Love the hole project Ernie
The overflow at the turbine would be a long way to get water back to the source. Now I do have some small nozzles to use more of the overflow at the barrel.
Nice one :-) Anyway, what about an electronically adjustable valve for each nozzle? Yeah, a different water distribution scheme would be needed but then you can then fine-tune which nozzle (that can be a different size) is consuming how much water. You can also have an electronic sensor to check penstock pressure and adjust the system accordingly. Cheers ;-)
What kind of batteries are you using, are these deep-cycle batteries?
I must ask this... Is your current house meter have the ability to monitor both ways? If not, that 2,800 wH that the kill a watt just showed... Was actually seen as a chargeable wH. So you may just be making your electric bill higher that normal.
When I installed PV 5 years ago. One of the crews left the system on. And the customer’s electric bill was more than double that month. So the PV had to pay for it and shut off the system until the electric company got out there and swapped the meter out.
I am using the limiter inverter that only allows power up to what the house is using. So there is no power going into the grid.
Land to House I think it’ll be a good idea to turn off all breakers except for the breaker the inverter is attached to. And use a high current device, one that the inverter will match.
Take a picture of your meter and turn that device on for 1 hour. After the hour take an other picture of the meter and turn the inverter off. Leave the device on and after an other hour take an other picture of the meter.
I am willing to bet that there is a difference between the tests. When the inverter was on, it doubled the usage. And the meter saw it like that as well, thus charged double the usage.
This inverter is designed to read the house usage. The inverter power is ever slightly different than grid power so that the house pulls from it first. Let's say the house is using 100 watts. The inverter will feed 95 watts and the grid will feed 5 watts.
Land to House I understand what you’re saying. But unfortunately the electric company meter may not see it like that. It may see 195 watts being used, not 5.
Good point Robert. Should be easy enough to compare the kill a watt meter consumption for a day to the house meter readings for the same period.
as long as you put the water back into the creek when your through with it, what does it matter if you have overflow at the head??? and why not run all the nozzels all the time???
If air gets into the penstock it greatly reduces the power.
What's the cost of the turbine??
The system is screaming out for a microcontroller and actuators to control the flow. I'd love to play with one.
Same thought! That’d be so fun!
Do you have a price break down? Also how long do those batteries last?
I have a general price. I need to make a video on that.
The batteries should last 8 years or more if I don't drop them below 60v. Let's hope.
@@LandtoHouse Cheers for the reply only stumbled across this method last night and pretty keen to look into more.. my thinking is that why couldn't I set this up with a tank water set up and use a pump that is low wattage and just recycle the water as i don't have a creek through my property
8+ kilowatt hours a day is pretty awesome and will pay for itself in no time! Since you aren't sending power back onto the grid, where does excess power go if batteries are full and house is using much less than 300 watts? Is there a place you are dumping excess power? Look forward to you next hydro build!
At the moment our water supply is enough to make 200 watts and that comes out to 4.8kwh a day. I hope to get up to 400 watts in winter. From my understanding when the batteries hit float the charge controller slows the turbine way down. But we use enough power in the house that its not in float long.
@@LandtoHouse If you're putting out 400 in the winter and, for some reason, the house load drops quite low that power has to go somewhere, or something's going to get quite hot. Does the inverter have the ability to shift the load to a shunt? When I lived on microhydro I used a couple of $20 small 1000w space heaters in my garage as a "dump." They almost never turned on but when they did I'm glad the power had somewhere to go. I like your system design! The batteries act kind of like a flywheel. Not sure of the power rates in your area, but that constant 200-400 watts can really save a lot of money especially if you have a tiered rate system.
@@et5222 since both of you do not mind to mess with water why do you not put water to water heat pump there too? Some people make those heat pumps for less than $500 and you will not find COP 4 just laying on on side of road
I am all for generating your own power, I have been working part time with solar panels but have not yet completed my build yet. I am curious as to how much you have spent and how long you project it will take to break even or come out ahead. Thanks, keep up the good work!
Solar is next on my list. I will use the same batteries as the hydro. I went all out on this install and spent a lot. Around $3k. The pay back is going to be 5 to 7 years. (The actual payback with TH-cam videos is more like 2 years)
Is that turbine a brushed or brushless system? I’m only asking because of possible recurring maintenance on the device itself. Also, could you increase the size of your PVC from the sluice box to the collection barrel to increase your gpms, therefore allowing you to run 2 jets year round? Or is it a water source issue?
I am not sure about brush vs brushless. I hear the bearings need replacing after 5 years. My penstock can only carry 40gpm. So that is the limiting factor. The most power I could ever make is 580 watts.
Land to House That’s actually not that bad then. Bearing are not terrible. Brushes can burn out pretty quick but they’re kind of becoming obsolete tech over the last decade.
I am still enthralled by micro hydro. I’m excited to see your setup evolve in the future. Hopefully you can go fully off grid at some point. Does French abroad Electric give credit if you put electricity back to the grid?
That power company does not allow sell back. Duke does if you have a pro install. Lots of $$$. That is why I went with limiter inverter.
@@LandtoHouse It should be brushless since it uses permanent magnets in the rotor and the coils are in the stator, much like the magneto in the ATV.
Hi Seth, What is the head height to your barrel and have you measured the gpm coming out of the waste pipe below the turbine with 1 nozzle and 2 nozzles? Thanks!
The total head pressure is 163 feet. I will be running those tests soon. Now that I know everything is working its time for playing around.
Ok so my ram pump works just fine only with a low head pressure. But its a slow output, so when I increase the head pressure to get more water through my 3/4 pump. But when i open the delivery pipe even just a little bit I can't get the pump to run again. I know that I have enough back pressure so whats my issue?
What is your input head pressure and lift when the unit shuts off?
Mpy head pressure is 5 ft and output is 23
Sounds like you are having back pressure issues. When you try to lift with too much head pressure it causes the water to exit faster than its entering.
Put mv is worth it to try add another intake seriouswite the onw u had. Try to test thath then the the intake owerflow get used again in another intake. Mb then u get more water to the barrel
I have a plan on getting all the water into the intake that is spilling out. That video will be some time in September.
@@LandtoHouse ok nice then thats more efficient i think yeah.
And do u fixed the leaks in the pipe?
Yes all penstock leaks are fixed.
Why are you feeding the DC power into a charge controller and then into the battery bank, not first into the inverter and the excess energy that is not going into the house will go into the batteries via the charge controller? I am no electrical engineer but I thought that was how a solar+storage system works, as it reduces the number of cycles on the battery.
if you have solar and wind, you could make a battery by pumping up hydro to the reservoir
We don't have wind here. Its just a light breeze most of the time.
@@LandtoHouse solar battery then?
I will use the same 60v battery bank for both solar and hydro.
So because I've always been pretty ignorant about power, what is my questions would be: when the inverter is not on you're just using the electric company's power? And if that is the case then having a more productive/efficient Creek would make it to where you would never need a power company again???
The inverter pulls power from the battery and supplements the house power usage. When we use less in the house the inverter limits the output. The inverter can only output around 800w. There are plenty of times we are using 2000+ watts in the house.
@@LandtoHouse great series bro!! So are you pushing power back on the grid? And if not does the outback slow the turbine down to produce just what you are using?
The charge controller is making as much power as possible go into the batteries. The inverter reads the amps going into the house and feeds as much as possible to match that (up to 800watts). When the house is not using much power the inverter limits the output.
@@LandtoHouse ok thanks did you get your inverter from Langston as well? And also after watching your video on the little green tiller I bought one and must say it has a lot of power for such a little machine!! Very impressed!!
The inverter is actually from Amazon. Link in the description of video 8 I think.
That tiller is really great!
Was interested in the mini hydro until i see the price tag like daaamn, gonna stick with doing it with an old washing machine motor it seems :c
⚡️oho almost 200 wats. mot bad especailly for firs project and taht sanll creek. if you have more creeks on your prperrty you can interrelate them to same pipe and get couple more of little turbines ro one one couple small and one bigger. i have heart that electric truks have very good batteries and you can byou them very very cheap price if they are used because they discard them when they do not load over 80% and that is very good for homr use when you charge then littlebit all the time. or maybe couple of used electric car batteries beause many of these have even 100 kwh capacity when thwy are but i don`t know what used electric car batteries cost. very cool project and it`s have no impact to nature like the creek where you got all your water. i hope all go as planned and wish you nice moment with your gear, because i love to do all kind of constructions old electric component. be carefull with voltage especially with AC (alternative current) hello from one electrician from finland, ⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️
Love it but it’s a bit above my head of understanding, sorry but i wish I could get something similar
When I started this project back in February I did not know much. Lots of time to learn.
It is pretty sketchy the way the inverter connect to the house electrical. If that black wire is unplugged you'll have power on the exposed prongs.
The inverter is autoislanding. No issue with exposed plugs.
The only part I don’t like is the plug pins that go into the receptacle. They are potentially live and exposed when connecting and disconnecting. That is not foolproof and we’re all capable of being foolish.
The inverters are islanding. Its as safe as a partially unplugged appliance. But as soon as the plug is removed the inverter is off.
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365 days times 24 hours = 8760 Hours in a year - 8760 divided by 22 hours = 398.181818 x .45 cents = $179.18 of saving in a year.... All that time and cost of the materials doesn't seem worth the trouble.
So far its averaging $20 savings a month. That's $240 a year. After some modifications it will make 450 to 500w. That is more like $45 savings a month for the winter and spring.
@@LandtoHouse Yeah I just watched your cost break down video. The real question is how long will the generator last? If you have to replace it every 5 years or less then i'm not sure if it's worth it. I feel like if it can pay for it self in 5 years it's definitely worth it. but I've spent 5k on really dumb stuff so if it pay for it self in 10 years I guess it might be worth it too. Again how much maintenance and how often are you working on it and/or replacing things is the real questions. I guess only time will tell.
I would think that 2 smaller jets at 180 deg would be better than 1 large jet. No scientific reason just gut feeling.
Oh I'm so thirsty for some reason😉. 🦀
I will be installing two 3/16" nozzles on the side soon for testing. Should give some fun info.
You saved 50 cents per day x 365 = $182.50 per year with a project budget of how many thousands of dollars. 10 years later, the maintenance costs will put you in the red again, all while robbing nature of a stream being used by all sorts of deer and other animals. Sounds about right, huh?
In my area the power cost around $0.18/kwh. So this install is around $1.20 per day. The youtube video series has made $10k + so its beyond paid for.
@@LandtoHouse I'm quite sure the audience is not going to get it paid for when they install their own system, right? So, I'd be concerned about misleading them into a poor investment without telling them the actual cost savings and how minimal it really is. I can imagine what happens when you run a 2.5 ton air conditioner with it. They'd save more by not running an AC or buying one in that matter, which would be the better advice. Also, did you get in touch with the DNR when you decided to divert a natural resource? You never touched on that subject, or did you?
@@BelleRiverHeating A couple videos after this series is done I do a full walk through showing the cost between what I paid and what you can expect to pay As an average consumer. A system like this is more ideal if you are off grid and unable to get grid power to your place. For example I Filmed an off grid yurt. His system is making 250w as the only power out there.
@@BelleRiverHeating There is a Spring just below the the source of my intake. There's only about 20' of Creek that does not have much water. The water is still flowing in the Creek just through a pipe that returns to the Creek.