Finally some sound advice, I speak 8 languages and I'm sure that if I didn't engage in personal conversations in each one of these languages I wouldn't have learned any of them. When I'm simply reading or listening in other languages I'm in a state of crippling boredom, you have to be somehow mentally stimulated or otherwise your brain will never be deeply focused for extended periods of time.
Hi Will, thanks so much for this video. I think it's a bit strange in the Immersion Learning community this notion of "Don't speak until you're fluent because you'll develop bad speaking habits". With this logic, we shouldn't speak as children because we'll develop childish speaking habits forever 😂 If you're immersing regularly and getting feedback from native speakers, I think there is little chance you will cement bad habits. I do think that you shouldn't force yourself to speak until you feel ready or you really want to. I've been studying Japanese the past two and half years and just recently started speaking. It's great! Although I make mistakes and am still limited in what I can say, it's super motivating getting to communicate with native speakers. Your ability and success in learning Chinese speaks for itself! I hope you become a well-known figure in the Immersion Learning online community.
Thanks so much for your comment, totally agree, speaking definitely helped me and I've managed to avoid cementing bad habits with a combination of feedback and tons of input and output. All the best with Japanese!
Listening to your favourite Mando pop song etc, but theres still a difference between knowing what the singer is singing and conversational chinese plus all the dialects.... BUT the more you listen the easier it is to pick out words then an entire sentence! i noticed this when i wasnt looking at the screen and the subtitles of whatever was on tv and understood it! BUT you have to be willing to learn the basic everyday Chinese like YES NO etc to get used to the "Different" ways YES NO can be said and in context etc... Im still not good, but i can pick out words in a conversation on a tv downstairs etc, the more you hear it, the more you will begin to learn or understand
Hey Will, recently burnt out learning Chinese after a year or so, trying to get back into it again. My biggest drawback was always my fear of speaking, it's hard to pinpoint why but I just can't push myself to speak it, ironically my partner is a native mandarin speaker haha. Did you ever struggle with this yourself? Any tips for both me and my partner (to push me to do better from her perspective), would greatly appreciate? Thanks.
Hey! That's a tough one, I think maybe set some side a time daily or weekly where you both sit down and speak Mandarin? You can increase this time gradually as you get more confident. I think you just have to get over that mental barrier and start speaking, at least with your partner you aren't going to be judged or criticised.
Hey will thanks for such great content. I have been studying Korean for more than 6 years now. However I still struggle alot when watching K dramas. I generally only understand maybe 40-50%. The words are usually not the problem, its just that I don't understand words that I already know. At this point I feel as though you need natural aptitude in order to learn such a difficutl language and If you don*t have that you will just never really be fluent in when it comes to listening. It seems doing more listening is just not gonna cut it. What can I do? I can't see how self talk would help with that either.
Listening is definitely difficult, I think it's a combination of improving your vocabulary and just doing lots and lots of listening. What methods are you using at the moment?
@@willhartmandarin I am currently watching Avatar the last airbender in Korean and whenever I can I use listen to the condensed audio. I also watch youtube videos about politics mostly. So thats what I do for listening. I know around 9k words I believe. I am currently adding 15 new words every day. And I also read a bit, perhaps 30 min a day.
@@aljoschadietrich9040 It sounds like you've already got a decent vocabulary, do you do much conversation practice? I found conversations really helped my listening.
@@willhartmandarin Interesting theorie. I hardly do conversation practice, only once every 2 weeks. Because I feel, even if I can get fluent when it comes to talking, I will still not understand news or movies in the language. But if conversations actually helped with listening then I am going to try self talking in korean
There are apps like HelloTalk, Italki, etc as well as various discord servers and the language learning subreddit where you can meet language partners!
Finally some sound advice, I speak 8 languages and I'm sure that if I didn't engage in personal conversations in each one of these languages I wouldn't have learned any of them. When I'm simply reading or listening in other languages I'm in a state of crippling boredom, you have to be somehow mentally stimulated or otherwise your brain will never be deeply focused for extended periods of time.
Totally agree. Especially with the crippling boredom comment. I MUCH prefer speaking as its much more engaging.
I enjoy speaking so much more too! 8 languages! That's so impressive!
Hi Will, thanks so much for this video. I think it's a bit strange in the Immersion Learning community this notion of "Don't speak until you're fluent because you'll develop bad speaking habits". With this logic, we shouldn't speak as children because we'll develop childish speaking habits forever 😂 If you're immersing regularly and getting feedback from native speakers, I think there is little chance you will cement bad habits. I do think that you shouldn't force yourself to speak until you feel ready or you really want to. I've been studying Japanese the past two and half years and just recently started speaking. It's great! Although I make mistakes and am still limited in what I can say, it's super motivating getting to communicate with native speakers. Your ability and success in learning Chinese speaks for itself! I hope you become a well-known figure in the Immersion Learning online community.
Thanks so much for your comment, totally agree, speaking definitely helped me and I've managed to avoid cementing bad habits with a combination of feedback and tons of input and output. All the best with Japanese!
Totally agree with this. Speaking is much more engaging and helps me personally remember things. I always try to speak asap.
Definitely!
Listening to your favourite Mando pop song etc, but theres still a difference between knowing what the singer is singing and conversational chinese plus all the dialects.... BUT the more you listen the easier it is to pick out words then an entire sentence!
i noticed this when i wasnt looking at the screen and the subtitles of whatever was on tv and understood it! BUT you have to be willing to learn the basic everyday Chinese like YES NO etc to get used to the "Different" ways YES NO can be said and in context etc...
Im still not good, but i can pick out words in a conversation on a tv downstairs etc, the more you hear it, the more you will begin to learn or understand
Hey Will, recently burnt out learning Chinese after a year or so, trying to get back into it again. My biggest drawback was always my fear of speaking, it's hard to pinpoint why but I just can't push myself to speak it, ironically my partner is a native mandarin speaker haha. Did you ever struggle with this yourself? Any tips for both me and my partner (to push me to do better from her perspective), would greatly appreciate? Thanks.
Hey! That's a tough one, I think maybe set some side a time daily or weekly where you both sit down and speak Mandarin? You can increase this time gradually as you get more confident. I think you just have to get over that mental barrier and start speaking, at least with your partner you aren't going to be judged or criticised.
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Hey will thanks for such great content. I have been studying Korean for more than 6 years now. However I still struggle alot when watching K dramas. I generally only understand maybe 40-50%. The words are usually not the problem, its just that I don't understand words that I already know. At this point I feel as though you need natural aptitude in order to learn such a difficutl language and If you don*t have that you will just never really be fluent in when it comes to listening. It seems doing more listening is just not gonna cut it. What can I do? I can't see how self talk would help with that either.
Listening is definitely difficult, I think it's a combination of improving your vocabulary and just doing lots and lots of listening. What methods are you using at the moment?
@@willhartmandarin I am currently watching Avatar the last airbender in Korean and whenever I can I use listen to the condensed audio. I also watch youtube videos about politics mostly. So thats what I do for listening. I know around 9k words I believe. I am currently adding 15 new words every day. And I also read a bit, perhaps 30 min a day.
@@aljoschadietrich9040 It sounds like you've already got a decent vocabulary, do you do much conversation practice? I found conversations really helped my listening.
@@willhartmandarin Interesting theorie. I hardly do conversation practice, only once every 2 weeks. Because I feel, even if I can get fluent when it comes to talking, I will still not understand news or movies in the language. But if conversations actually helped with listening then I am going to try self talking in korean
Totally agree! from a native speaker.
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So basically I won’t become fluent until I move to Taiwan is the real answer
Don't you have locals in your country that speak Chinese?
There's a dozen ways you can have conversations (,including ai) without moving to where the language is spoken
@@carnivoreisvegan Talking to Ai is pathetic
There are apps like HelloTalk, Italki, etc as well as various discord servers and the language learning subreddit where you can meet language partners!
Actually it's well documented that Will learned to speak Mandarin fluently in 1.5 years withOUT leaving England.