Yeah, the "results may vary" is doing some heavy lifting here. Show us sources, or sod off. Edit: A quick google search reveals that it has 1.6 stars out of 5 on trustpilot. It's a scam, and you should be ashamed of yourself for advertising this snakeoil. Quick edit: It's 1.5 now.
@johannageisel5390 It doesn't guarantee that, either. Just that it probably doesn't do serious harm, most of the time, to a majority of adults. Products that are banned in the EU are allowed in the US. You wouldn't want to interfere with business, would you?
Hey Stefan. Thanks for the joy over the years. I’m interested in Neanderthals in Africa. How strong is the evidence, what were they likely like, etc. Hope you do an episode on that.
Just this morning my wife and I were having one of our discussions about how You Tube, like television itself in prior years, has become so much a Vast Wasteland. Then I glanced at my feed, shouted out "STEFAN MILO RELEASED A NEW VIDEO!", she came running, and for a bit more than half an hour, all was right with the world.
Yes, YT has as much of a Vast Wasteland as TV used to have, probably more. Unfortunately, that "Vast Wasteland" pays the bills because more people like the Kardashians than PBS's _Nova._ But if people _choose_ to watch the Vast Wasteland rather than that which is useful, it at least pays for what I personally prefer. Even back in TV's days, I almost never watched more than about 2 minutes' worth of obvious garbage before changing the channel.
I just did a search to see if the Baltic existed at that time , if it would bar a northern expansion of neanderthal. It did , but it was also a warmer period in earths history. This kind of fits with something else I read recently. Apparently neanderthals were not adapted to temperature extremes as much as modern humans . They could not live in as cold or as hot environments as us
Hearing that there might have only been 70,000 of them around at a given time, and we're finding things over 100,000 years later...that's mind blowing to me. The fact we find anything about them at all is stunning.
Absolutely. And this is why I do not subscribe to the "Sapiens outcompeted them". 1) 70 000 people at the most=neanderthals, knowing the terrain were perfectly able to avoid Sapiens if they had thought Sapiens were hostile. 2)Neanderthals endured from 400 000 to 40 000 BC: in my book, that tells me they were very well adapted to their environment. 3) Considering the vast expanses of land and the small populations both of Neanderthals/Denisovans and also Sapiens, it is rather a miracle they did meet. And of course, once they met, they mated.
@@annepoitrineau5650 Your last point is a striking one I hadn't really thought about deeply (though I should have lol). When populations are so small, the likelihood of bumping into others has to become staggeringly small; unless you have the means, and the will to find them. There will be some "bottlenecks" that will make meetings more likely, but still; the world must have seemed awesomely big to them. Then again, over thousands of years, even unlikely things will happen many times.
couldnt have said it better my self. and theres probaly 1000ns if not 10.000ns of aboriginal tripes we will never ever learn about because they lived in rainforrest areas or deep in russian tundra areas where no sain humans ever go. but not only tribes with bizzar convelutet behaiviors. but also humans kinds we will probaly never know about because its frozen under 2 miles of ice. or eroded away millions years ago doe to weather. my best bet would be go yo huuuge desserts around the world and dig there. u do know the dessert in and around saudi arabia used to me a rain forrest right?
@@tommeakin1732u seem to forget 70.000 neanderthals in the at that time intire world. was way LESS than moderman walking out of africa in big big groups and stay together weather going to asia middle east or europe is a fare better strategi than neanderthals might have walked alone and one day by accident bumped into another neanderthal. choise is still. in the other neander....dinner. possible maid or a rival. modetn man traveled in town or family groups of aome sort and had their places within that group
@@Neilhuny Yes partly. As are all Europeans. Anyone with ancestry not exclusive to sub-saharan Africa has some neanderthal dna. With Europeans having the most. I am from the US and have more neanderthal dna than 97% of 23andme customers.
@@Neilhuny Recent studies have actually shown that danes have up to 34% neanderthal DNA which would go a long way to explain their general lack of culture and intelligence
Swede here! Not often Scandinavia is mentioned so we take what we get. I did a DNA test a few years ago since we can only trace my family back to mid 1800s, but it just came back "100% Scandinavian" , very uninteresting lol. Wonder how much Neanderthal I am though.
Hey Stefan just wanted to let you know you have helped me find a passion in paleo anthropology and I actually just got accepted into my first semester of IU Indianapolis for anthropology as my major!
My son and husband blank out on my ancient human obsession I made them sit through some of your vids and they both agree you’re cool and enjoy listening to you You’re amazing
@@dougcard5241 . Well my comment was initially directed at smileyzed, but that's okay too. Yeah, for some reason I prefer the run of the wild, the open spaces, the deep forests, and tall mountains. More than the sea, even though I was born next to it, and have spent most of my life around it. Often I do enjoy it, but I have too much respect for it. Its fury and violent storms, its deep areas and vastness, its coral reefs and the sea creatures in it. But the tall mountains and dark forests always bring me back, it calls to me. To run in its meadows and rivers and lakes and lagoons. The stag, the wolves, the bear, the mountain lion, the beavers and hares, the hawks and the eagles perched high in their nest. 'I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself. A small bird will drop frozen dead from a bough without ever having felt sorry for itself.'The woods are lovely, dark and deep,. But I have promises to keep,. And miles to go before I sleep,. And miles to go before I sleep.
This channel is the only one that doesn’t make my brain feel like it’s melting under the crushing pressures of the short form content being hurled at us second of every day.
Remember an other very old song, a pre- 10 CC (I'm not in Love, Wallstreet Shuffle, Dreadlock Holiday) outfit called Hotlegs. _I'm the Neanderthal man_ _You're the Neanderthal girl_ _Let's make Neanderthal love_ _In the Neanderthal world_ Accompanied by the requisite bang boom drum rhythm, of course
Doggerland is amazing! There was a big exhibition on it in Leiden. To make sure the sea doesn't sweep away all our beaches, something called "the sand engine" was created. They sucked up sand from the bottom of the sea and deposited it in a special shape on the beach. Now we can walk along the beach and find fossils from doggerland after high tide and stormy weather! An especially interesting piece that was found was this animal bone with a piece of a flint arrowhead inside it...
In a way, that's really cool, but it's also unfortunate because it removes the context of those artifacts and context is one of the most important things when it comes to knowing about said artifacts.
@@Lutefisk445 Absolutely, but unfortunately Doggerland is now 20m deep under water, and I doubt archeology has the budget to go excavating there. Maybe the construction of all those windmills might provide some opportunities?
So wild to think that whole cultures lived and died upon that landscape, regarding it as unchanging and immutable--a place eternal. Now it's all under the sea--their hunting grounds and villages, the meeting-spaces and the favoured rivers with all the best fish, the ambition of every young hunter chasing his first big stag. A lost world.
I’ve got my 12 year old daughter hooked on your videos. She’s been asking me if you’ve posted new content for the past few weeks. You should have heard her when she saw your newest video! We love your work. I can see your enthusiasm in every video you make and I’m happy that you’ve released this one! Thank you for just being real.
Fellow subscribers of Stefan, please remember to like his videos as well. You know, for the algorithm, but also to support and promote these fantastic videos. Cheers!
Daub and wattle buildings are easy to do and disintegrate into next to nothing. Flax grows in northern Germany and is easily processed into fibres that can be spun into yarn and knotted into fishing nets, corded into ropes, and used with bone needles for sewing leather and fur as well as turned into all kinds of clothing by nalbinding and crocheting with a wooden hooked needle is probably something that would occur naturally to anyone who ever made a fishing net. Macramee is another natural technique to evolve as soon as fibre has been spun into yarn. If your main prey is elephants, you need a lot of people to feed with one kill or have great means of food preservation and storage. That amount of food will take a lot of people to do processing, a lot of salt and wood for smoking and cooking, storage containers and a rather sedentary society as hauling such amounts of food around would be impractical.
Reckon those great catches like elephant, mammoth, rhino, were part of some kind of festive gatherings, like the potlatch traditions in north America. There's quite a bit of risk involved in hunting these large beasts, could easily get a man crippled for the rest of his life. Reckon reindeer and boar, size of wolf prey, would be the regular hunting target. Think also those mass slaughters of horse and other herd animals, were part of seasonal, or even once every so many years, parties. Folks back then weren't nuts, they were living _in_ nature , with nature, as aware of their needs as we are of how to navigate in heavy traffic. They wouldn't go about slaughter their resources for no good reason, and a great get together is one such reason.
What if they didn't use all of the animal and were very wasteful? There are native american tribes that were very wasteful hunters because prey were so plentiful and hunting in that way was so easy. I wonder whether there could have been an aspect of that to some neanderthal hunting.
@lowcostfish I doubt that they were wasteful at these low plains sites. The wasteful Native American sites are like Head Smashed In where whole herds of bison were driven over cliffs. The Northern German landscape did not lend itself to such hunting techniques.
@@allangraham970 makes perfect sense As an Australian myself I’m familiar with the practise. 🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺 I don’t think the world listens to our Aboriginal people anywhere near enough! They’re the oldest continuous race of people on earth, with proven stories going back to events 100,000 years ago
Loaded with great information, as always. Quite amazing to hear the population estimates, it really puts things into astounding perspective. And I love the droll humour. That Brexit joke got a large, albeit pained, guffaw out of me.
Read about the Dutch expedition to Nova Zemlya - they were looking for a shortcut to Indonesia. Obviously they did not find the shortcut, but they had some great polar bear stories.
Yo yo yo… I’m like 6 days late but I’ve been busy man, get off my back. You rock Stefan. Literally the first backlog video I went to. And yeah, I feel your excitement. I geek out on this too, along with many other geeky obsessions.
Quality stuff as always! Wish I'd heard a little about Neanderthals in Scotland but will need to look into that myself! Great video, absolutely infectious passion
It's so incredible to think that there are probably more people who study Neanderthals alive today than there were Neanderthals alive at any given point un time
Stefan I have probalem, I cannot stop watching your videos, I found your videos a little over a year ago and you have been a great educator to me through my studies in archaeology at university. You are such an inspiration to me and motivate me to pursue my dream of digging holes and finding some interesting things!
I hope that within my lifetime they'll find a half frozen Neanderthal body in the permafrost somewhere and it well know exactly what they look like, what they ate and what level of technology that they died with.
we got really close with Ötzi, but he wasn't a Neanderthal. however if he could be preserved for like, 10,000 years or so, and still be studied so well, I'm sure we will find a frozen Neanderthal some day.
@@Minty1337 Ötzi is from 5200 years ago, that's the neolithic. Neanderthal disappeared 40 000 years ago. It's absolutely not close. Ötzi is contemporary to Narmer and the invention of Sumerian cuneiform. Now it doesn't mean that we couldn't find a frozen Neanderthal, since the oldest frozen mammoth is 30 000 years old. But there's a whole order of magnitude between the age of Ötzi and the extinction of Neanderthal.
Yes Stefan Milo 🙌, I’ve loved this and I have been following for a while to see this video as I personally have always believed that Lehringen nor Creswell Crags was not their Northernmost extent (Hmm what about their Southernmost extent like the Neanderthal site near the Sinai Peninsula, that’s another good video idea 🤔) and that places like the Doggerland, Neumann-Nord Jutland Peninsula & Scandinavia being suitable habitats and so thank you 🙏 so much for the video and I’ll be supporting you and the NeanderEDGE project as long as I can. ❤️ ❤️ ❤️
Creswell Crags is slightly more North than Bontnewydd cave,(Pontnewydd, Denbighshire, Nr St Asaph/Llanelwy) but Bontnewydd is the most westerly Known site, although its is older occupation, maybe 170,000 years before Creswell Crags. Which is mind boggling.
I AM glad you have sponsors and get paid to make these fine videos. And can pay your subject-matter specialists a solid speaking fee. I _am_ somewhat miffed that keeps is aware of my growing baldness, or rather the predictability of a history nerd channel having enough balding men like me in the audience to justify the sponsorship. I´m feeling seen, and not in a good way.
Great!, a new SM video, always look fwd to these coming, time to watch with a cup of tea and a biscuit, as I always do, I guess you could call it a ritual.
I was just thinking yesterday -"That bloody Milo fella has been slack"- "About time we got another amusing and interesting piece from Stefan". :) 8:52 Perfect example of that "If not friend, why look like friend?" question.
I am an American with recent Appalachian Scots-Irish ancestry. I have decided to ignore the part of me that is Irish and totally embrace and identify with my 1.8% Neanderthal DNA. Most excellent video. Tomorrow is a new day and I am going out to find some stones to practice my Levallois flaking and collect some birch bark and make Neanderthal super glue. Wish me luck!
I have a bad cold with 39°C fever. TH-cam decided to lay this pearl in my feed. Thank you Stefan for keeping my hand in this moment of suffering. Really apreciate your work on youtube.
I mostly take offense to someone who clearly has lost the fight with male pattern baldness trying to sell me on a product they either don't use, or clearly doesn't work.
Well done Stefan. Another gem from you. I am always a little bit wiser after watching your videos! I studied Quaternary geology at university about 50 years ago now and it's wonderful to see how our knowledge and techiques have improved in those intervening decades. Thanks again for your clear explanations and beautiful presentation.
Damn. I was hoping for at least a mention of the discussion about the Neanderthal presence at the Wolf Cave in Kristinestad, near the Karijoki municipality in Finland.
Just a friendly reminder that Neanderthals actually has bigger brains than we do and were NOT some dumb brutes. We honestly shouldn't be "surprised" by anything we find.
Or… they could have been guided by aliens. Which, of course, the status quo doesn’t want you to think about. The woke crowd wants you to think Neanderthals are smart because they want you to vote for a Neanderthal like Biden.
The general depiction in anthropological articles about Europe of 200000 years ago is icy blizzards with Neanderthals hunting mammoths and other megafauna. And in the same article one would read most of north Europe was grassland at the time. These several factors seemed bit contradictory at least to laymen. Thanks Stefan, you have explained it through different periods of cold and warm from 200000 years ago to 40000 years ago and how Neanderthals kept adapting. Best of all you have explained it through simpler terms without much of scientific jargon to keep the non anthroplogy folks like me excited enough till the end of the video. Fantastic👍🏾
Wtf mate your videos are somehow better quality each one you upload. It's incredible how just passion took you so far, I'm totally getting to your Patreon
@BlaBla: Nope. The Dutch just didn't discovered it yet. At least if seen from a Western prospective. I'll bet the inhabitants of New Ginae, Salomon Achipelego or the Aboriginals knew where it was.
They were joking about how New Zealand is often left off of world maps. The Polynesian Maori didn't settle New Zealand until around the 13 hundreds AD/CE, and are believed to be the islands first human inhabitants. If those groups you mentioned new of it beforehand, they don't appear to have stayed.
20:20 "10 meters down, 20 meters down, that's such a challenge to excavate in, basically an impossible challenge to excavate. uhm.... i know this is archeology but uh.... i think 10-20 meters is very doable, especially if the sediment layers above don't contain any artifacts, and even then, I've heard of archeological digs that go more than 30 meters deep in places like Rome where the ground is basically made of artifacts (obvious exaggeration). to me at least, this seems worth the time to dig.
Yeah, honestly I don't have the best impression on the danish paleontologists we saw. They seem to both use unncessarily complex methods (why look for almost invisible lakes when you could seach for prehistoric bogs on the beach?) but also seem to be too shy to try actual excavations. If you want easy to access remains, you go on the beach and look for ancient bog. If you want to excavate an ice age lake, you must be prepared to remove a huge layer of modern sedimentation. And maybe use a place during summer to notice weird formations instead of purely geophysical, it helps to cover much more space.
@@Ezullof I think they just lack the funding that someone searching for Roman remains would have, maybe it’s a language barrier and they meant stagnant water bodies in general and not just lakes?
@duckpotat9818 Agreed its the funding. It's one thing to excavate down 20 meters in a place like Rome where you are guaranteed to find something. It's another when it's in the middle of nowhere and your not sure if anything is even there. I'm sure many people aren't willing to fund such things. Which is why I'm sure they are trying to find places with a high possibility of artifacts before starting.
@@duckpotat9818 yea funding is almost definitely the largest problem, but as i said, i think it deserves to have more effort into it, perhaps use those ground penetrating radars to scan an area to see if its worth digging, and if it is, then 20-30 meters doesn't seem like much to find some potentially important hints at our evolution, or the evolution of our nearest relatives.
Ah yes, lets define Scandinavians by a subculture of the worst men in Europe that are within the historical record. Imagine being from a land where the only thing you're known for is that some of your forefathers *one thousand years ago* were murdering slaver-thieves. God damn, that's sad. They have to have done *something* kind of good within that last thousand years
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It doesn't guarantee that, either. Just that it probably doesn't do serious harm, most of the time, to a majority of adults. Products that are banned in the EU are allowed in the US. You wouldn't want to interfere with business, would you?
Hey Stefan. Thanks for the joy over the years. I’m interested in Neanderthals in Africa. How strong is the evidence, what were they likely like, etc. Hope you do an episode on that.
Just this morning my wife and I were having one of our discussions about how You Tube, like television itself in prior years, has become so much a Vast Wasteland. Then I glanced at my feed, shouted out "STEFAN MILO RELEASED A NEW VIDEO!", she came running, and for a bit more than half an hour, all was right with the world.
This sounds like an elaborate "hey babe" comment, ngl. xD
seconding this!
Yep, by the time a new one is released, I am more than ready for it.
Its only a wasteland if you dont curate your feed. Your comment is an example of how their is a mountain of excellent content for everyone.
Yes, YT has as much of a Vast Wasteland as TV used to have, probably more.
Unfortunately, that "Vast Wasteland" pays the bills because more people like the Kardashians than PBS's _Nova._
But if people _choose_ to watch the Vast Wasteland rather than that which is useful, it at least pays for what I personally prefer.
Even back in TV's days, I almost never watched more than about 2 minutes' worth of obvious garbage before changing the channel.
Hi. I live in Finland. The ice age was nasty. We have one cave. And it's pathetic. Pls send more caves. Otherwise we can't find any neanderthal stuff.
Any permafrost? That keeps things fresh for years.
@@nomadpurple6154 No.
Well, yes, but so far up in the north there's no way neanderhals went up there. Also those pockets are small.
I just did a search to see if the Baltic existed at that time , if it would bar a northern expansion of neanderthal. It did , but it was also a warmer period in earths history. This kind of fits with something else I read recently. Apparently neanderthals were not adapted to temperature extremes as much as modern humans . They could not live in as cold or as hot environments as us
I am sorry, it seems as the caves were all sent to Iceland
we are going to keep them, the neanderthals need to live somewhere else
@@al3xisd3ad I am getting old! Need cave now! No more sleeping in snow!
Hearing that there might have only been 70,000 of them around at a given time, and we're finding things over 100,000 years later...that's mind blowing to me. The fact we find anything about them at all is stunning.
Absolutely. And this is why I do not subscribe to the "Sapiens outcompeted them". 1) 70 000 people at the most=neanderthals, knowing the terrain were perfectly able to avoid Sapiens if they had thought Sapiens were hostile. 2)Neanderthals endured from 400 000 to 40 000 BC: in my book, that tells me they were very well adapted to their environment. 3) Considering the vast expanses of land and the small populations both of Neanderthals/Denisovans and also Sapiens, it is rather a miracle they did meet. And of course, once they met, they mated.
@@annepoitrineau5650 Your last point is a striking one I hadn't really thought about deeply (though I should have lol). When populations are so small, the likelihood of bumping into others has to become staggeringly small; unless you have the means, and the will to find them. There will be some "bottlenecks" that will make meetings more likely, but still; the world must have seemed awesomely big to them. Then again, over thousands of years, even unlikely things will happen many times.
I mean it’s recorded that they have, many Europeans have around 1-2 % Neanderthal dna
couldnt have said it better my self.
and theres probaly 1000ns if not 10.000ns of aboriginal tripes we will never ever learn about because they lived in rainforrest areas or deep in russian tundra areas where no sain humans ever go.
but not only tribes with bizzar convelutet behaiviors.
but also humans kinds we will probaly never know about because its frozen under 2 miles of ice. or eroded away millions years ago doe to weather.
my best bet would be go yo huuuge desserts around the world and dig there.
u do know the dessert in and around saudi arabia used to me a rain forrest right?
@@tommeakin1732u seem to forget 70.000 neanderthals in the at that time intire world.
was way LESS than moderman walking out of africa in big big groups and stay together weather going to asia middle east or europe is a fare better strategi than neanderthals might have walked alone and one day by accident bumped into another neanderthal.
choise is still. in the other neander....dinner. possible maid or a rival.
modetn man traveled in town or family groups of aome sort and had their places within that group
They got as far as Clacton and realised the Fish and Chips were no good.
Suddenly thinking of Mr. & Mrs. Brian Norris' epic trek from Surbiton to Hounslow...
But the reindeer jerky is delicious.
THERR WERE NO FISH CHIPS IN NEANDERTHAL TIME!!
@@youknowwhoiam4432 Are you dumb?
@@youknowwhoiam4432 No evidence of that
Hej Stefan, dane here, glad to see us featured in your video. Keep up the great work.
Are you saying Danes are Neanderthals?
@@Neilhuny Yes partly. As are all Europeans. Anyone with ancestry not exclusive to sub-saharan Africa has some neanderthal dna. With Europeans having the most. I am from the US and have more neanderthal dna than 97% of 23andme customers.
@@kylerBDnope, everybody have Neanderthaler dna even in sub Sahara africa they just have less
@@Neilhuny Recent studies have actually shown that danes have up to 34% neanderthal DNA which would go a long way to explain their general lack of culture and intelligence
Swede here! Not often Scandinavia is mentioned so we take what we get. I did a DNA test a few years ago since we can only trace my family back to mid 1800s, but it just came back "100% Scandinavian" , very uninteresting lol. Wonder how much Neanderthal I am though.
Hey Stefan just wanted to let you know you have helped me find a passion in paleo anthropology and I actually just got accepted into my first semester of IU Indianapolis for anthropology as my major!
This is awesome!!
Con🎉gratulations!
@@magsterz123 thank you!! It’s very exciting
@@mjean6762 very very much so‼️
What kind of work can you do after getting the degree?
My son and husband blank out on my ancient human obsession
I made them sit through some of your vids and they both agree you’re cool and enjoy listening to you
You’re amazing
You're so lucky
You are probably a very outdoors nature type person, and they are not.
@@tatumergo3931 I like trees and wild animals better than humans, if that was your suggestion.
@@dougcard5241 . Well my comment was initially directed at smileyzed, but that's okay too. Yeah, for some reason I prefer the run of the wild, the open spaces, the deep forests, and tall mountains.
More than the sea, even though I was born next to it, and have spent most of my life around it. Often I do enjoy it, but I have too much respect for it. Its fury and violent storms, its deep areas and vastness, its coral reefs and the sea creatures in it.
But the tall mountains and dark forests always bring me back, it calls to me. To run in its meadows and rivers and lakes and lagoons. The stag, the wolves, the bear, the mountain lion, the beavers and hares, the hawks and the eagles perched high in their nest.
'I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself. A small bird will drop frozen dead from a bough without ever having felt sorry for itself.'The woods are lovely, dark and deep,. But I have promises to keep,. And miles to go before I sleep,. And miles to go before I sleep.
do you have any friends like you? haha. Where are the woman into this stuff...
This channel is the only one that doesn’t make my brain feel like it’s melting under the crushing pressures of the short form content being hurled at us second of every day.
"Neanderthals: modern humanity cousins and part-time lovers" - Stefan Milosavljevich.
Brilliant xD
I love it. Going to quote it :)
I hope they were our second cousins at the very least!
I prefer to think of them as "friends with benefits."
That's not how I remember the song going.
Remember an other very old song, a pre- 10 CC (I'm not in Love, Wallstreet Shuffle, Dreadlock Holiday)
outfit called Hotlegs.
_I'm the Neanderthal man_
_You're the Neanderthal girl_
_Let's make Neanderthal love_
_In the Neanderthal world_
Accompanied by the requisite bang boom drum rhythm, of course
I love how Stefan giggles. His enthusiasm for the topic is infectious.
Doggerland is amazing! There was a big exhibition on it in Leiden.
To make sure the sea doesn't sweep away all our beaches, something called "the sand engine" was created. They sucked up sand from the bottom of the sea and deposited it in a special shape on the beach. Now we can walk along the beach and find fossils from doggerland after high tide and stormy weather! An especially interesting piece that was found was this animal bone with a piece of a flint arrowhead inside it...
🤗 interesting
In a way, that's really cool, but it's also unfortunate because it removes the context of those artifacts and context is one of the most important things when it comes to knowing about said artifacts.
@@Lutefisk445 Absolutely, but unfortunately Doggerland is now 20m deep under water, and I doubt archeology has the budget to go excavating there. Maybe the construction of all those windmills might provide some opportunities?
So wild to think that whole cultures lived and died upon that landscape, regarding it as unchanging and immutable--a place eternal. Now it's all under the sea--their hunting grounds and villages, the meeting-spaces and the favoured rivers with all the best fish, the ambition of every young hunter chasing his first big stag. A lost world.
So envious!!
I’ve got my 12 year old daughter hooked on your videos. She’s been asking me if you’ve posted new content for the past few weeks. You should have heard her when she saw your newest video! We love your work. I can see your enthusiasm in every video you make and I’m happy that you’ve released this one! Thank you for just being real.
She probably just doesn't know what else you like that isn't lame lol. This is the common ground.
Fellow subscribers of Stefan, please remember to like his videos as well. You know, for the algorithm, but also to support and promote these fantastic videos. Cheers!
And to let those annoying ads to run to generate income.
Daub and wattle buildings are easy to do and disintegrate into next to nothing. Flax grows in northern Germany and is easily processed into fibres that can be spun into yarn and knotted into fishing nets, corded into ropes, and used with bone needles for sewing leather and fur as well as turned into all kinds of clothing by nalbinding and crocheting with a wooden hooked needle is probably something that would occur naturally to anyone who ever made a fishing net. Macramee is another natural technique to evolve as soon as fibre has been spun into yarn. If your main prey is elephants, you need a lot of people to feed with one kill or have great means of food preservation and storage. That amount of food will take a lot of people to do processing, a lot of salt and wood for smoking and cooking, storage containers and a rather sedentary society as hauling such amounts of food around would be impractical.
Reckon those great catches like elephant, mammoth, rhino, were part of some kind of festive gatherings, like the potlatch traditions in north America. There's quite a bit of risk involved in hunting these large beasts, could easily get a man crippled for the rest of his life. Reckon reindeer and boar, size of wolf prey, would be the regular hunting target.
Think also those mass slaughters of horse and other herd animals, were part of seasonal, or even once every so many years, parties. Folks back then weren't nuts, they were living _in_ nature , with nature, as aware of their needs as we are of how to navigate in heavy traffic. They wouldn't go about slaughter their resources for no good reason, and a great get together is one such reason.
What if they didn't use all of the animal and were very wasteful? There are native american tribes that were very wasteful hunters because prey were so plentiful and hunting in that way was so easy. I wonder whether there could have been an aspect of that to some neanderthal hunting.
@lowcostfish I doubt that they were wasteful at these low plains sites. The wasteful Native American sites are like Head Smashed In where whole herds of bison were driven over cliffs. The Northern German landscape did not lend itself to such hunting techniques.
Best content in the field. Thanks for doing what you do
Shout out to the team for the donation to UNICEF ❤ and thanks again Stefan, I love all your videos , especially the longer ones🎉
Oh it’s a golden day for me! Day off work after back surgery AND a Stefan Milo video !
Thankyou so so much
You’re worth your weight in Pure gold
I hope you recover quickly from your surgery.
@@brandyjean7015 Thankyou
Aboriginal people of Australia used fie to assist hunting. Maybe neanderthals did the sane
@@allangraham970 makes perfect sense
As an Australian myself I’m familiar with the practise. 🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
I don’t think the world listens to our Aboriginal people anywhere near enough! They’re the oldest continuous race of people on earth, with proven stories going back to events 100,000 years ago
I love your comment and your thankful positivity 🌞, I hope you recover well.
It is an excellent reminder that history is not static.
Just feeling a bit down this morning…then I got some caffeine, opened TH-cam and saw a new Stefan Milo video! Now it’s a good day 😊
Thanks! Excellent work!
"Humanity's distant cousin and part time lover" 😂❤ perfect!
We used to think that Neanderthals couldn't talk. Not only could they talk, they were fluent in the language of love.
Like Stefan has said before " the upper paleolithic was a bang fest"
Now I have Stevie Wonder singing in my head😊
And "the original brexit" 😂😂
Reality was probably far darker.
Loaded with great information, as always. Quite amazing to hear the population estimates, it really puts things into astounding perspective. And I love the droll humour. That Brexit joke got a large, albeit pained, guffaw out of me.
"NeanderEdge" is certainly an interesting project name, something our ancestors should be familiar with :)
For a sec I thought the title said "How far north did Netherlands get?" and I imagined Dutchmen expanding north as sea levels receded.
The Dutch, while usually very cosmopolitan, can be quite intrepid. It’s a good image!
The Dutch did settle in settle Scandinavia, Gothenburg for example was situated by them
I only realized that that wasn't what this video was about after I had clicked on it lol
We wouldn't have let the sea back in
Read about the Dutch expedition to Nova Zemlya - they were looking for a shortcut to Indonesia. Obviously they did not find the shortcut, but they had some great polar bear stories.
i’m not a nerd about this yet stefan but you’re helping with that
Great video as always, Stefan. This is really interesting stuff and you have a great way of distilling complex topics in a way that isn't pandering.
This channel is such a gem! Keep up the good work ☺️
Thank you Stefan, Trine, Peter and Emil for a delightful and interesting video. And a special applause for the generous donation to UNICEF.
It is so important to view archaeology as regards to MI Stages - so very good video. Thanks Stephan!
Yo yo yo… I’m like 6 days late but I’ve been busy man, get off my back. You rock Stefan. Literally the first backlog video I went to. And yeah, I feel your excitement. I geek out on this too, along with many other geeky obsessions.
Quality stuff as always! Wish I'd heard a little about Neanderthals in Scotland but will need to look into that myself! Great video, absolutely infectious passion
Just watched on Nebula, great video! Thanks to everyone for their time and help bringing such an interesting topic to TH-cam.
It's so incredible to think that there are probably more people who study Neanderthals alive today than there were Neanderthals alive at any given point un time
Oh that's so trippy to think about!
Wish you the best my friend, your videos are incredible. Love from Mesopotamia.
Stefan I have probalem, I cannot stop watching your videos, I found your videos a little over a year ago and you have been a great educator to me through my studies in archaeology at university. You are such an inspiration to me and motivate me to pursue my dream of digging holes and finding some interesting things!
I hope that within my lifetime they'll find a half frozen Neanderthal body in the permafrost somewhere and it well know exactly what they look like, what they ate and what level of technology that they died with.
I too am waiting for that day!!! 🤞🤞
we got really close with Ötzi, but he wasn't a Neanderthal. however if he could be preserved for like, 10,000 years or so, and still be studied so well, I'm sure we will find a frozen Neanderthal some day.
That would be AMAZING!
Just half? Don't downgrade your dreams!
@@Minty1337 Ötzi is from 5200 years ago, that's the neolithic. Neanderthal disappeared 40 000 years ago.
It's absolutely not close. Ötzi is contemporary to Narmer and the invention of Sumerian cuneiform.
Now it doesn't mean that we couldn't find a frozen Neanderthal, since the oldest frozen mammoth is 30 000 years old. But there's a whole order of magnitude between the age of Ötzi and the extinction of Neanderthal.
Great video! Thank you for the fascinating content regarding expanding our understanding the Neanderthal and the extent of their northern boundaries!
Yes Stefan Milo 🙌, I’ve loved this and I have been following for a while to see this video as I personally have always believed that Lehringen nor Creswell Crags was not their Northernmost extent (Hmm what about their Southernmost extent like the Neanderthal site near the Sinai Peninsula, that’s another good video idea 🤔) and that places like the Doggerland, Neumann-Nord Jutland Peninsula & Scandinavia being suitable habitats and so thank you 🙏 so much for the video and I’ll be supporting you and the NeanderEDGE project as long as I can. ❤️ ❤️ ❤️
Creswell Crags is slightly more North than Bontnewydd cave,(Pontnewydd, Denbighshire, Nr St Asaph/Llanelwy) but Bontnewydd is the most westerly Known site, although its is older occupation, maybe 170,000 years before Creswell Crags. Which is mind boggling.
Hey, Stefan your videos are awesome keep up the great work. Best wishes to you are your family, commenting for the Algorithm.
I don't know what that thing does for baldness but your moustache looks epic.
The beginning of an Ottoman mustache
Fascinating! One of your best videos so far, Stefan.
Yay! I got the notification on time! Thanks Stefan!
I REALLY needed this today..
I AM glad you have sponsors and get paid to make these fine videos. And can pay your subject-matter specialists a solid speaking fee.
I _am_ somewhat miffed that keeps is aware of my growing baldness, or rather the predictability of a history nerd channel having enough balding men like me in the audience to justify the sponsorship.
I´m feeling seen, and not in a good way.
Great work! Very thought provoking, one nerd to another!
Great!, a new SM video, always look fwd to these coming, time to watch with a cup of tea and a biscuit, as I always do, I guess you could call it a ritual.
As interesting and well presented as always!
I was just thinking yesterday -"That bloody Milo fella has been slack"- "About time we got another amusing and interesting piece from Stefan".
:)
8:52 Perfect example of that "If not friend, why look like friend?" question.
MY FAVOURITE TH-camR HAS UPLOADED!!!!
Great video, great team, and absolutely didn't need subtitles! Hell, Trine even pronounced "gif" correctly!
interaction for our brother
Totally brilliant... Thanks for such good video and the important project being done and ideas/possibilities of where neanderthals were
I am an American with recent Appalachian Scots-Irish ancestry. I have decided to ignore the part of me that is Irish and totally embrace and identify with my 1.8% Neanderthal DNA. Most excellent video. Tomorrow is a new day and I am going out to find some stones to practice my Levallois flaking and collect some birch bark and make Neanderthal super glue. Wish me luck!
Great content as always! I think it's awsome that you get all this profesionals to participate.👌
Another absolute banger from Stefan
Thank you, Stefan, and your guests. This video is excellent.😊
“Distant cousins, and part time lovers” will always be how I think of Neanderthals now 🤣
I have a bad cold with 39°C fever. TH-cam decided to lay this pearl in my feed. Thank you Stefan for keeping my hand in this moment of suffering. Really apreciate your work on youtube.
And now i have Stevie Wonder's "Part-time Lover" stuck in my head for the duration of the video...
Bah, bah, bah, bah, buh-dobba-dah🎶
A Stevie Wonder /Stefan Milo collaboration! What could be better?
Ditto
Thanks for the banger dad . I smoked up for this one . Worth it . I am a Neanderthal AMA
Stefan: "Hello Denmark"
Every danish person watching: "Hej der skaldede britte fra internettet"
Watch your language young lady.
@@joesands8860 Is calling someone British considered offensive now?
@@Carewolf That’s the joke. It’s another “British are bad” joke.
Well, he’s got more hair than me ....... 🤔
I mostly take offense to someone who clearly has lost the fight with male pattern baldness trying to sell me on a product they either don't use, or clearly doesn't work.
Another fascinating video and great work by the group! Good luck for finding evidence of Neanderthal presence further up north!
Thanks for making these wonderful videos!
Idk why, but I misread the title as How far north did the Netherlands get and it took me nearly 30 seconds into the video to realize it lol.
Exact same thing happened to me
As far north as they can build dykes. Just wait a bit and they’ll have dug up doggerland by then.
It took me nearly 30 secs to realize you actually wrote "the Netherlands"
@@laavalus696lol same.
@@laavalus696Same I was so confused
Well done Stefan. Another gem from you. I am always a little bit wiser after watching your videos! I studied Quaternary geology at university about 50 years ago now and it's wonderful to see how our knowledge and techiques have improved in those intervening decades. Thanks again for your clear explanations and beautiful presentation.
Damn. I was hoping for at least a mention of the discussion about the Neanderthal presence at the Wolf Cave in Kristinestad, near the Karijoki municipality in Finland.
Just love listening to you nerd out with a refreshing sense of humor to boot!
I think other human species were as smart as us. I don’t doubt they would be able to make it super far across the world.
Not actually another species - it’s the same species with some different variations of genomes that is almost the same.
I’m a nerd like you, Stefan! Always enjoy your videos!
When I Google "Neanderthal Range" I just get directions to The Range store in Luton.
Try "range of Neanderthals in Europe".
@@jturtle5318 same result!?!
@@adrians2190 you're not using Maps, right? LOL, I got several articles about Neanderthals in Europe.
@@jturtle5318 do any of them cover the range store in Luton?
@@adrians2190 🤔 no. 😆.
Love your work and passion for pre-history. Keep up the great work!!
Just a friendly reminder that Neanderthals actually has bigger brains than we do and were NOT some dumb brutes. We honestly shouldn't be "surprised" by anything we find.
Actually that's a myth. pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33459351/
Or… they could have been guided by aliens. Which, of course, the status quo doesn’t want you to think about.
The woke crowd wants you to think Neanderthals are smart because they want you to vote for a Neanderthal like Biden.
To survive and prosper that long ago.. you must be very smart,intelligent and intuitive with nature..
I’m pretty sure this is now the consensus my friend.
They didn't prosper. Neanderthals were limited in range and numbers.
The general depiction in anthropological articles about Europe of 200000 years ago is icy blizzards with Neanderthals hunting mammoths and other megafauna. And in the same article one would read most of north Europe was grassland at the time. These several factors seemed bit contradictory at least to laymen. Thanks Stefan, you have explained it through different periods of cold and warm from 200000 years ago to 40000 years ago and how Neanderthals kept adapting. Best of all you have explained it through simpler terms without much of scientific jargon to keep the non anthroplogy folks like me excited enough till the end of the video. Fantastic👍🏾
Great visuals! Great guests! Can imagine a day in the life of a Neanderthal ❤
And just a tad childish humor 😄
Wtf mate your videos are somehow better quality each one you upload. It's incredible how just passion took you so far, I'm totally getting to your Patreon
Well done!
New 35 minute video from Stefan Milo. Gonna roll one up and listen, occasionally pausing to ponder.
im as early to this video as humans were late to migrate to new zealand
Wild New Zealand mention 😋🩷
humans couldn't find NZ because it's not shown on many world maps
@BlaBla: Nope. The Dutch just didn't discovered it yet. At least if seen from a Western prospective. I'll bet the inhabitants of New Ginae, Salomon Achipelego or the Aboriginals knew where it was.
They were joking about how New Zealand is often left off of world maps.
The Polynesian Maori didn't settle New Zealand until around the 13 hundreds AD/CE, and are believed to be the islands first human inhabitants.
If those groups you mentioned new of it beforehand, they don't appear to have stayed.
Beautifully and intelligently delivered.
20:20 "10 meters down, 20 meters down, that's such a challenge to excavate in, basically an impossible challenge to excavate.
uhm.... i know this is archeology but uh.... i think 10-20 meters is very doable, especially if the sediment layers above don't contain any artifacts, and even then, I've heard of archeological digs that go more than 30 meters deep in places like Rome where the ground is basically made of artifacts (obvious exaggeration). to me at least, this seems worth the time to dig.
Yeah, honestly I don't have the best impression on the danish paleontologists we saw. They seem to both use unncessarily complex methods (why look for almost invisible lakes when you could seach for prehistoric bogs on the beach?) but also seem to be too shy to try actual excavations.
If you want easy to access remains, you go on the beach and look for ancient bog. If you want to excavate an ice age lake, you must be prepared to remove a huge layer of modern sedimentation. And maybe use a place during summer to notice weird formations instead of purely geophysical, it helps to cover much more space.
@@Ezullof I think they just lack the funding that someone searching for Roman remains would have, maybe it’s a language barrier and they meant stagnant water bodies in general and not just lakes?
@duckpotat9818 Agreed its the funding. It's one thing to excavate down 20 meters in a place like Rome where you are guaranteed to find something. It's another when it's in the middle of nowhere and your not sure if anything is even there. I'm sure many people aren't willing to fund such things. Which is why I'm sure they are trying to find places with a high possibility of artifacts before starting.
@@duckpotat9818 yea funding is almost definitely the largest problem, but as i said, i think it deserves to have more effort into it, perhaps use those ground penetrating radars to scan an area to see if its worth digging, and if it is, then 20-30 meters doesn't seem like much to find some potentially important hints at our evolution, or the evolution of our nearest relatives.
another absolute banger, thank you stefan for all of the work and love you put into every video!
"I am bald, and I think you are too!"
Me, a 23yo old woman with thick waistlength hair that scares hairstylists watching this:
Me a 45 yo guy with long hair and with a father who also got a full set of hair at almost 78 years old.
Well I’m jealous
'23 And Me' DNA testing service?
Do you dy your hair lighter like the female speaker 🔊?
Fascinating, as are all of your videos!
Love how he starts and ends videos with a fresh haircut, but halfway through production, he’s rocking that lazy, disheveled look!
Great content. Great tone. Enthusiastic, tough not tabloid. A great mix of scientific and popular. I simply love this channel
Thanks for the Neanderthal content 👊
Almost thought I hallucinated this video being posted when I was half sleep and saw the notification 😂 glad it's real
Love to find a Neanderthal in the permafrost
That day has gotta come right? I’m waiting for it too!
Babe, wake up, new Stefan video just dropped
Loved the hair treatment ad! Before and after shots of using the treatment was a nice touch and the neanderthal male model at the end made me laugh!
"Distant cousin, part time lover" omg 😂❤
Hope all goes well for you. We will be waiting and very happy to see you back again!❤
Hej hej from Denmark
♫ Aarhus, in the middle of aar street ♩
Stop this madness!!
Love your channel Stefan!! Keep up the good work. Cheers from Norway
Viking Neatherdrals
Ah yes, lets define Scandinavians by a subculture of the worst men in Europe that are within the historical record. Imagine being from a land where the only thing you're known for is that some of your forefathers *one thousand years ago* were murdering slaver-thieves. God damn, that's sad. They have to have done *something* kind of good within that last thousand years
I don't recall vikings being cannibals as a normal practice, but I might be wrong.
Sounds like a movie concept.
This is a great video Stefan! Thank you.
[quick, wet, cheek wobbling fart sound] is amazingly specific for the annotations
I love this channel, I love your work, I am grateful to the people who so graciously share their knowledge here. This channel is a shining light showing what the internet can do. (I like to imagine a distant future where a future Stefan Milo finds this channel somehow and uses it as evidence to show that we were not all idiots in the early 21st Century).
“The original brexit” 😂
Stefan sending out another banger love learning through your videos