I'm not mad Kenzie won but Charlie played the best game. His only fault was out playing someone with an unhealthy ego. Maria was bitter she wasn't as good as she thought she was.
His fault was not admitting to Maria that he had been targeting her as well, allowing her to apologize to him, then sending her to ponderosa to hear all of his backstabbing from Q, Tiffany and Venus. That s a BIG mistake. A game losing mistake for someone that had such a narrow path to victory in the first place because he failed to see Kenzie as a threat.
@@Jiorgiapeach Nobody saw Kenzie as a threat and you could say Kenzie made the same mistake. Charlie was her biggest competition for the win and she never saw that. She underestimated him completely. Kenzie would have counted Maria as a Charlie vote, so she chose what should have been a losing path if Maria had been a normal #1 ally.
@@matta6395 Sorry, but the best player does not always win. If jurors will only vote for a woman or will only vote for someone who they feel they are at the stage of life that they need money the most....none of that is based on the game. You can't change your gender or your age. In some cases you can say that a player did not manage the jury properly but the jury loved Charlie and there is nothing Charlie could have done about Maria's bitterness and OTT ego. Tiffany also obviously had a huge influence on the jury in a very biased way. Maria should have been that person for Charlie, but that is on Maria.
@@debbiemccune1952 you don’t understand the game them. Survivor is a social game based on relationships. The very definition of the “game” you describe of survivor from Jeff Probst Himself is: getting to final tribal and “convincing a jury of ppl you had a hand in voting out to vote for you to win sole survivor and the million dollar prize.”
Way to go Charlie for setting healthy boundaries with a person who is not showing up for you the way she said she would. Best of luck for the future. 😊
I normally just watch these player interviews but I'm so disappointed in Maria's vote and reasoning that I just have to comment. That scene when it zooms in to Charlie chugging his wine while Maria is explaining behind him was so painful to watch
Her reasoning was already bullshit to begin with. She said she voted for Kenzie because of the fire-making challenge yet when Jeff asked the jury which of them changed their votes at FTC she didn’t raise her hand. How you gonna say you voted for her because of fire while at the same time admitting you were already voting for her before you even knew that was happening. She’s a liar and a phony.
@@uiripriest298 In her interview on RHAP she said she voted for Kenzie because Kenzie needed the money more. She’s given 2 different reasons for voting for Kenzie and they are both equally stupid reasons to give someone the win but neither of them are genuine, truthful answers.
He deserved to win. I'm glad most of the fanbase can see that, so as far as survivor gameplay goes, he's the real winner anyway. As for the money, I'm sure he will manage without it given he's going to be a harvard educated lawyer. Wish him all the best and hope to see him on Survivor 50!
He did not deserve to win. He failed to see Kenzie as a threat and he failed to manage the jury. Blindsides alone are not a winning game. He was socially unaware. He let Maria apologize to him for voting for him without admitting that he was plotting against her. He then sent Maria to ponderosa to hear about his dirty work from Q and Tiffany and Venus. That’s a game losing error.
@@Jiorgiapeachlol, you mean the “apology” where she she lied and said she didn’t want to vote for him, but those other 3 meanies FORCED her to write his name down?
@@Jiorgiapeach You need to stop! Your reasoning is a lie. It has come out that Charlie did tell her he was also coming for her. Maria lied really badly in the scene that was in the edit (pretending the others held a gun to her head and tricked her into voting Charlie out!). Later, they talked honestly about both realizing the had to take each other out. Kenzie was not seen as a threat by anyone and Kenzie did not realize that Charlie was playing a far better game than her. Since Kenzie would have counted Maria as a Chrlie vote, she made a huge error in letting Charlie get to F3.
@@debbiemccune1952 my reasoning is not a lie. Charlie burned Maria. Whatever he did to her it was not the right to do. He didn’t get her vote. Thats evidence that he did something wrong. He failed. He could have made sure Liz was in the final 3. He could have made fire. He could have helped Liz learn fire. He could have brought Maria in To the q elimination. He could have apologized that night for targeting Maria. He could have kept q and Venus and went to the end with them. There are about a dozen or more mistakes he made in the blast 1/3 of the game. His biggest mistake was that he underestimated Kenzie and overestimated himself. Jury didn’t Like his dirty game play and didn’t want to hear cheesy Taylor swift garbage. Jury loved kenzie’s authenticity and kindness. Winning by being a good person is a viable strategy in survivor. Just as viable as being a backstabber if not more so .
Good, I’m sure Hunter and Maria and Venus and many others felt the same pain when he nodded at them right before stabbing them in them back . He is owed nothing. You play dirty. U get done dirty. He’s still playing dirty. He’s still throwing Maria under the bus . He can’t own that he failed jury management. He can’t own that he lacks social awareness.
@@Jiorgiapeach That's the name of the game. You need to put an alternative persona to win sometimes. At the last tribal council, the game is over so there shouldn't be deception anymore. And how is he throwing Maria under the bus? He is clearly stating the facts. Maria tossed herself under the bus by acting so bitter.
@@kaatherineyoung The game is not over at FTC. The jury’s vote is their chance to reward the person that they think played the best, most honorable game. That’s why there is a jury. If it was just a contest about who did the most blindsides, they could put a scoreboard up and tally up statistics at the end to crown the winner. The point of the game is to get to the end while maintaining the respect of enough of your castmates to win. Charlie failed miserably. Point blank period .
@@Jiorgiapeach I don't agree that people vote for the "best, most honorable game", there is clear bias when it comes to voting. It's clear as daylight that Tiff would've voted for Kenzie no matter what, unless she said something stupid in the final tribal council. And honestly, within the recent seasons, it seems like being under the radar and not steering any votes gets you the win which is disappointing. Seems like jury only considers their feelings, how they were treated by the finalists, and how they plan on spending the money. Seems like there is no honorable consideration on who actually played the best strategic game of survivor. And yes you may say that a large aspect is the social game, but being strategic already considers your social game. If you're able to strategize with others, then you've already solidified some aspect of the social game to gain one's trust.
Love how clear the message we can hear on the opposite directions he developed on his relationships with Ben vs. Maria, through and out of the game. Great insights Charlie! We all love how great Charlie shows as a player and a person with integrity, so it implies much the positive characters of Ben and oppositely for Maria.
Fantastik interview n insites to Charlies perspective on his game. I feel bad 4 him n i think he is handling things relatively well n maturely... seems quite heavy 4 him to do a number of exit interviews asking him to repeatedly open up these wounds to divulge the proper explanations, that is needed.. props to all 5 who did their exit press interviews today! 🎉
Her stated reason for why she voted Kenzie was an outright lie and she lied to Charlie’s face about how she would vote for him at FTC. I think it’s fairly obvious that she expected herself to be in Final 3 and Charlie to be on the jury and vote for her but when that didn’t happen she became bitter and jealous that he was in the spot that she thought should have been hers. She only told him that she would vote for him because she wanted him to return the favour. She never had any intention of voting for him because she never even considered that he might be there longer than her. She just wanted to lie and manipulate him into promising her his vote if she made it tot the end.
Survivor is not about making big moves and expecting to win. It’s possible to make big moves and lose because u made big moves that hurt the wrong people. It’s about managing social relationships while playing the game To The end. He failed to manage his relationship with Maria and a few others. He still refuses to acknowledge this. He needs to take accountability and stop dogging that lady. She owes him nothing.
we would have seen much more of charlie and Ben's fun relationship if it was a tie and ben had to vote for charlie. feel like we were robbed of Charlie and Ben's closeness because they needed to show Kenzie have this "great social game" and what made her so likable was how kind she was to Ben when he was struggling. But if we look at Kenzies social game it was basically "have Tiff be my ride or die - then let Tiff try to influence evryone at ponderosa why im so amazing" but im really dissapointed at how this season ended. a Charlie win off of a tie would have been amazing. A kenzie win without getting maria's vote would have been easier to swallow as well. I think the only world where we are so upset with the finally is a world where Maria decided to vote kenzie and charlie loses by the 1 vote swing... and thats the world we actually are living in.
Exactly. I am really upset at the edit after listening to all of Ben's interviews. Ben claims that Kenzie never did more for his panic atacks than Charlie and Liz and that he remained closest to Charlie all season. I am not sure if Ben himself realizes why the editors did this (we know it was to find a way to prop Kenzie up), but he did say the edit was not accurate and that he was dissapointed that his relationship with Charlie was only visible pre-merge & the vanished from the edit post merge. He detailed how Charlie & Liz both supported his panic attacks and general state of discomfort in the game. I guess all the editors could find that was good about Kenzie was her also helping Ben and Bhanu calling her a mermaid-dragon!
Ben has said in the event of a 4-4 tie he would have voted for Charlie as the tiebreaker. Charlie has a right to feel betrayed by the bitter back stabbing Maria. She cost him a million dollars. In hindsight, had Charlie convinced Ben to take Kenzie to the final 3 and let him make fire against the inept delusional Liz, that might have been enough to not make Tevin change his mind and vote for Charlie. That was the one stumble that cost him a million (even with the bitter Maria voting with Q, Venus and Tiffany.
Tevin would've voted for Liz. He respects a game and he thinks emotionally too. Liz said she was exaggerating her wealth to make it seem like she wouldn't win so that people can take her to the end. That is a form of strategy that others may respect. And, she is the reason Tevin is out, so he would also consider how she did actually did outplay them.
@@kaatherineyoung Liz is lying now just to get attention. If she was intentionally exaggerating her wealth, it would have been in her confessionals. The entire jury has said they would never have voted for Liz. If you listen to everyone's various exit press, the jury actually told Liz that she would have received 0 votes. Liz is NOT the reason Tevin was voted out. She just wanted credit for a group move. Tevin was between Charlie & Kenzie even at F5.
So far, most of the jurors have said that fire made no difference. Charlie's final tribal answer that he would have taken Liz with him to F3 if he had won immunity was considered the only correct answer. Kenzie actually lost some jury respect when she said she would have done the same thing Ben did. The jury could not understand how anyone could have thought Liz had any chance of getting votes.
Maria is pretending that she is the good guy. That was what she portrayed but she was planning to get him out when she hooked up with Q. She just thought she had out smarted him and then lashed out in anger and jealousy because she was bitter 😮😮😮😮😮
If Charlie brought Venus rather than Kenzie in final 3, then he wins. He was stuck under Maria's thumb for so long. The jury did not even recognize his gameplay at all. Maria claimed those moves.
Maria was arrogant, bitter and manipulative. Would have like to see Charlie win but in the end he will be remembered for his character and grace something money can’t buy!
It's too bad that Charlie chose Maria as his "ride or die." I found Maria's behavior in so many ways to be offensive, such as when she acted so wounded ("daggers") by Venus at tribal council on account of her simply showing the courage and integrity to call Maria out on her beyond appalling, transparent and fake behavior in picking Q for the food reward, claiming her decision was based upon whose body was "breaking down" the most. Then she proceeds to leave the two who are literally STARVING and picks Q, the guy who just ate but whom she previously stated she wanted to "use" for his vote, i.e., to serve her own purposes. In reality, she should be ashamed of her behavior. I'm really glad she will see for herself the episode that airs during which virtually EVERYONE in the cast views Maria's behavior the exact same way as Venus did! She relentlessly badmouthed Ben prior to tribal council in a desperate attempt to avoid being voted out and then tenderly touches his shoulder during that same tribal council - so two faced and fake. While Kenzie had a great social game, I feel Charlie had the best all-around strategic, physical and social game. I guess it was too quiet a game for people to take note of. It was obvious that Maria withheld her vote for Charlie at final tribal out of spite and jealousy. If I were him, I would not have anything to do with her after her betrayal of him. I do not consider her the wise pillar of morality she envisions herself as being.
Great player. I get that everyone has their own valid perspective, BUT Maria's decision seemed quite bizarre and 'unfair' based on the relationship durign the game.
Why? She apologized to him for voting for him. He didn’t come clean about his plots to get rid of her. He then sent her to ponderosa to hear about all of it from Q and Venus and Tiff. What did he think was going to happen? That she owed him a vote? She carried his ass and then he dogged her and refused to admit it. That’s his error not hers.
@@FellDownTheCornHole ya nobody wants a friend like Charlie ? Imagine throwing ur friend under the bus to the public like Charlie is doing right now. Dude is not a good person And was never Maria’s friend . He used her and threw her out . She realized it and took control of her vote. Good for her
I think it makes sense for Tiff to vote for Kenzie just because they have that really close bond. It's hard to separate clear logic to strong emotions. Q is understanding, but sees the money as something that may be life changing, so I understand his decision. I think Tevin thinks like that too, but I thought he was more logical than emotional. I thought Tevin would've voted for Charlie. Hunter is clearly a logical person making his decision very clear. Soda is also logical. Liz said she would've voted for Ben just because Ben complimented her just showing that she is over her head. However, she ended up voting for Charlie because of something he said in the tribal council. Venus probably voted for Kenzie because she was the nicest to her and because Venus just talks about woman empowerment. As a woman, I think that's a stupid reason to vote someone to win in a game. Venus also most likely considered Kenzie's story too with what she would do with the money. Then, obviously, Maria's vote is the one that is most talked about because it makes 0% sense. Clearly shows that she is a salty bitch. That being said, I think if Kenzie didn't talk about her upbringing, which I found to be completely manipulative and irrelevant to a game, I think Tevin would've voted for Charlie and then Ben said he would've voted for Charlie making Charlie win. So the honest swing vote was Tevin.
Sometimes viewers think that jury "got it wrong". I don't think this is the case here. I feel like it was very VERY close, closer than any of the seasons i watched. A great all-rounder with no downsides to his game whatsoever VS an outstanding social game with an above average standing in other facets. It's just a very slight difference born out of jury personality compositions. Maria got a LOT of heat, but i understand how she, as a woman and mother, got swayed to prop up another woman starting a family. I disagree, but i don't fault her. Charlie is one of the most solid gamers of the new era, he did NOTHING wrong, it was simply not enough by a very tiny margin (judging by twitter, Ben would break tie towards Charlie).
@@woodykusaki9970 she has no reason to be bitter against Charlie. Even if social media proves that it actually was bitterness, i feel that womanly/motherly sympathy played a BIGGER role in that decison, than a feeling of betrayal, which was mutual (and didn't even happen to her).
@@GoodGoga what does womanly/motherly sympathy has to do with her vote? She's a mother of 3 boys so Charlie should have made more sense. You think she voted for Kenzie because she's a woman? That's even worse. Sexist entitled feminists giving preferential treatment to females solely because their women is not a good thing. lol
Wtf does being a Woman/Mother have anything to do with winning Survivor? The jury should be voting on who they thought the BEST player was. Not who shares the most immutable characteristics with you. Identity politics...
I agree with your post other than about Maria's vote. Maria even admitted to Charlie after the game that she was bitter because of some BS Tiffany had told her at Ponderosa. For the past year, Maria has said she wished she had voted for Charlie. Then when faced with having to tell all of her press she regretted her decision, she got scared and told Charlie a new story..about not being able to have regrets in life. I think Maria was just generally too jealous that Charlie got to the F3 instead of her and refused to reward him. Tiff may have pushed her over the edge, but her bitterness was already festering.
Charlie is the real champ of survivor 46(mind you I was rooting for Hunter more) even his view counts compared to Kenzie say it all. SMH This is why Survivor Australia beats US.
Marias explanations have been so inconsistent. A flip flop. One thing I thought Charlie needed to do was come for Maria at tribal council. I hated that Tiff boxed him in so much. Love her but that was nasty business. If Charlie was more upfront on how he used Maria, and what part he had to play in her downfall. Play to his social game and likeability. I think it was a better gamble to win the votes. He was playing to Maria, thinking she would vote for him, when really he should've risked her vote and shown the others that they did not play the same game. Bringing up the six was a bad mistake too. Still Charlie was so deserving so is Kenzie. Good run this season.
We only saw 20 minutes of a 2.5 hour final tribal. Charlie said he talked about all of his strategy. Tiffany was a total bitch to Charlie and Ben..that part really bothered me. Who made her the boss of the jury and of the final tribal? She tried to shut down anything negative about Kenzie and push an anti-Charlie narrative.
Charley will graduate as a Harvard Lawyer & make a lot of money. His his fame as being on Survivor will open doors for him. He has to forgive and move on. Kenzie really needed the money to change her life. Charley needs to think about the good things and all the friends that he made. ❤❤❤❤
Nothing evil about it. He did her dirty. Kenzie didn’t do anyone dirty. Maria was all about loyalty and honesty. She wanted to show her kids that good wins. She wanted to show them that dirty game play is not rewarded if people decide that to be the case. No means no and Maria said hell no. Good for Maria.
This coddling of Charlie is very bizarre. There is only one winner. Most players get voted out by people they trust. This scenario is no different. His entitlement to anyone's vote is jarring, and if your chance at winning is a tie and a revote, then really your win equity isn't very strong. It's not a dig at his game; many great players don't win or even make it to the top three. Unfortunately the perception by the jurors that he was Maria's puppet. While its not true, he didnt do enough in the game and tribal counsel to show wasn't. In not taking credit and hiding his moves, it untimely hurt him. Coupled with passive response during tribal counsel.
BIG difference between getting voted out by your #1 and not getting the final vote from your #1. She knew full well he played the better game. That's why she was gunning for him and not Kenzie! I think it's disgusting that they can ask questions about "what you'll do with the money". They are a jury, there to decide who WON the game. If it's just about who needs the money the most you could just figure that out on day 1 and not even have a show. I'm not watching anymore.
@badbgp She was gunning for him because her game was similar to his not Kenzie's. She stands out a lot more sitting next to Kenzi. But irrespective of that, no vote is guaranteed, whether they are your number one or not. To assume so is a bit entitled.
@@ameenasama8018 It was not assumed. Maria told him 24 hours earlier that she was voting for him & would be advocating for him. He held her hand as she was voted out. Charlie did not just assume anything.
By your warped reasoning, Kenzie played an even worse game. She never even thought of targeting her biggest jury threat and she would have naturally assumed Maria was a Charie vote. So, by your own words, Kenzie played a losing game by choosing a narrow path where she would at best get a tie that would be broken against her.
@@debbiemccune1952 Charlie assumed that her opinion couldn't change. Also, are we just going based off what Charlie said that Maria said or did we hear Maria say this as well?
LOL outplayed by who? Maria’s bitterness? Tiffany’s influencing at Ponderosa? Q voting for the person that needed the money more instead of who played the better game? Half the jury was crap and came into it with their own personal agendas and biases.
@@ryanjohansson8950 I personally think he outplayed himself. He played one of the best strategic games but Kenzie had better jury management. Like Charlie said, the jury always gets it right
if anything, he misplayed the end game, the Venus vote truly sunk his game, If Venus stays and Kenzie goes that vote Charlie beats everyone left outside of Maria
I'm not mad Kenzie won but Charlie played the best game. His only fault was out playing someone with an unhealthy ego. Maria was bitter she wasn't as good as she thought she was.
His fault was not admitting to Maria that he had been targeting her as well, allowing her to apologize to him, then sending her to ponderosa to hear all of his backstabbing from Q, Tiffany and Venus. That s a BIG mistake. A game losing mistake for someone that had such a narrow path to victory in the first place because he failed to see Kenzie as a threat.
The “game” of survivor is getting to final tribal and getting the jury to vote for you. He didn’t play the best game
@@Jiorgiapeach Nobody saw Kenzie as a threat and you could say Kenzie made the same mistake. Charlie was her biggest competition for the win and she never saw that. She underestimated him completely. Kenzie would have counted Maria as a Charlie vote, so she chose what should have been a losing path if Maria had been a normal #1 ally.
@@matta6395 Sorry, but the best player does not always win. If jurors will only vote for a woman or will only vote for someone who they feel they are at the stage of life that they need money the most....none of that is based on the game. You can't change your gender or your age. In some cases you can say that a player did not manage the jury properly but the jury loved Charlie and there is nothing Charlie could have done about Maria's bitterness and OTT ego. Tiffany also obviously had a huge influence on the jury in a very biased way. Maria should have been that person for Charlie, but that is on Maria.
@@debbiemccune1952 you don’t understand the game them. Survivor is a social game based on relationships. The very definition of the “game” you describe of survivor from Jeff Probst Himself is: getting to final tribal and “convincing a jury of ppl you had a hand in voting out to vote for you to win sole survivor and the million dollar prize.”
ok but can we talk about the fact that Charlie is wearing Ben's merch for the exit press? what a friend
Yea it's sweet. I saw picture of them together.. in suits.
Shows the brotherly love between them after the game
Way to go Charlie for setting healthy boundaries with a person who is not showing up for you the way she said she would. Best of luck for the future. 😊
Maria set her boundary when she voted for the better player. Stop trying to gaslight people.
I would love to see Charlie and Carson together on season 50! They remind me of each other so much.
I normally just watch these player interviews but I'm so disappointed in Maria's vote and reasoning that I just have to comment. That scene when it zooms in to Charlie chugging his wine while Maria is explaining behind him was so painful to watch
Crazy that Maria is still changing her reasoning to this day
Narcissists can’t ever tell the truth
did she really?
Maria knows she was wrong and bitter,.she now has to live with her evil.self.
Her reasoning was already bullshit to begin with. She said she voted for Kenzie because of the fire-making challenge yet when Jeff asked the jury which of them changed their votes at FTC she didn’t raise her hand. How you gonna say you voted for her because of fire while at the same time admitting you were already voting for her before you even knew that was happening. She’s a liar and a phony.
@@uiripriest298 In her interview on RHAP she said she voted for Kenzie because Kenzie needed the money more. She’s given 2 different reasons for voting for Kenzie and they are both equally stupid reasons to give someone the win but neither of them are genuine, truthful answers.
He deserved to win. I'm glad most of the fanbase can see that, so as far as survivor gameplay goes, he's the real winner anyway. As for the money, I'm sure he will manage without it given he's going to be a harvard educated lawyer. Wish him all the best and hope to see him on Survivor 50!
He did not deserve to win. He failed to see Kenzie as a threat and he failed to manage the jury. Blindsides alone are not a winning game. He was socially unaware. He let Maria apologize to him for voting for him without admitting that he was plotting against her. He then sent Maria to ponderosa to hear about his dirty work from Q and Tiffany and Venus. That’s a game losing error.
@@Jiorgiapeachlol, you mean the “apology” where she she lied and said she didn’t want to vote for him, but those other 3 meanies FORCED her to write his name down?
@@Jiorgiapeach Respectfully disagree! Kenzie is one of the worst winners ever imo.
@@Jiorgiapeach You need to stop! Your reasoning is a lie. It has come out that Charlie did tell her he was also coming for her. Maria lied really badly in the scene that was in the edit (pretending the others held a gun to her head and tricked her into voting Charlie out!). Later, they talked honestly about both realizing the had to take each other out. Kenzie was not seen as a threat by anyone and Kenzie did not realize that Charlie was playing a far better game than her. Since Kenzie would have counted Maria as a Chrlie vote, she made a huge error in letting Charlie get to F3.
@@debbiemccune1952 my reasoning is not a lie. Charlie burned Maria. Whatever he did to her it was not the right to do. He didn’t get her vote. Thats evidence that he did something wrong. He failed. He could have made sure Liz was in the final 3. He could have made fire. He could have helped Liz learn fire. He could have brought Maria in
To the q elimination. He could have apologized that night for targeting Maria. He could have kept q and Venus and went to the end with them. There are about a dozen or more mistakes he made in the blast 1/3 of the game. His biggest mistake was that he underestimated Kenzie and overestimated himself. Jury didn’t Like his dirty game play and didn’t want to hear cheesy Taylor swift garbage. Jury loved kenzie’s authenticity and kindness. Winning by being a good person is a viable strategy in survivor. Just as viable as being a backstabber if not more so .
Hate to hear that he saw Maria nodding and took that as a positive sign. I'm sure that was such a painful blindside.
Good, I’m sure Hunter and Maria and Venus and many others felt the same pain when he nodded at them right before stabbing them in them back . He is owed nothing. You play dirty. U get done dirty. He’s still playing dirty. He’s still throwing Maria under the bus . He can’t own that he failed jury management. He can’t own that he lacks social awareness.
@@Jiorgiapeach That's the name of the game. You need to put an alternative persona to win sometimes. At the last tribal council, the game is over so there shouldn't be deception anymore. And how is he throwing Maria under the bus? He is clearly stating the facts. Maria tossed herself under the bus by acting so bitter.
@@kaatherineyoung The game is not over at FTC. The jury’s vote is their chance to reward the person that they think played the best, most honorable game. That’s why there is a jury. If it was just a contest about who did the most blindsides, they could put a scoreboard up and tally up statistics at the end to crown the winner. The point of the game is to get to the end while maintaining the respect of enough of your castmates to win. Charlie failed miserably. Point blank period .
@@Jiorgiapeach I don't agree that people vote for the "best, most honorable game", there is clear bias when it comes to voting. It's clear as daylight that Tiff would've voted for Kenzie no matter what, unless she said something stupid in the final tribal council. And honestly, within the recent seasons, it seems like being under the radar and not steering any votes gets you the win which is disappointing. Seems like jury only considers their feelings, how they were treated by the finalists, and how they plan on spending the money. Seems like there is no honorable consideration on who actually played the best strategic game of survivor. And yes you may say that a large aspect is the social game, but being strategic already considers your social game. If you're able to strategize with others, then you've already solidified some aspect of the social game to gain one's trust.
Love how clear the message we can hear on the opposite directions he developed on his relationships with Ben vs. Maria, through and out of the game. Great insights Charlie! We all love how great Charlie shows as a player and a person with integrity, so it implies much the positive characters of Ben and oppositely for Maria.
Fantastik interview n insites to Charlies perspective on his game. I feel bad 4 him n i think he is handling things relatively well n maturely... seems quite heavy 4 him to do a number of exit interviews asking him to repeatedly open up these wounds to divulge the proper explanations, that is needed.. props to all 5 who did their exit press interviews today! 🎉
Kenzie was my winner pick from pre season but i wouldve been happy with a charlie win. Hope he comes back for season 50!
I felt the same❤❤❤
Maria was bitter that Charlie got to the end and she didn’t and that’s why she didn’t vote for him. Plain and simple. Sour grapes.
Charlie played the best game! And no one can convince me that Maria wasn’t bitter! Just sayin
Her stated reason for why she voted Kenzie was an outright lie and she lied to Charlie’s face about how she would vote for him at FTC. I think it’s fairly obvious that she expected herself to be in Final 3 and Charlie to be on the jury and vote for her but when that didn’t happen she became bitter and jealous that he was in the spot that she thought should have been hers. She only told him that she would vote for him because she wanted him to return the favour. She never had any intention of voting for him because she never even considered that he might be there longer than her. She just wanted to lie and manipulate him into promising her his vote if she made it tot the end.
Survivor is not about making big moves and expecting to win. It’s possible to make big moves and lose because u made big moves that hurt the wrong people. It’s about managing social relationships while playing the game To The end. He failed to manage his relationship with Maria and a few others. He still refuses to acknowledge this. He needs to take accountability and stop dogging that lady. She owes him nothing.
@@Jiorgiapeach all your comment sound so stupid is the Maria on a burner account? 🤡🤡🤡
How did he fail to manage his relation with Maria?
@@badbgp He didn’t. He did nothing to wrong her. Maria was bitter she lost and was gaslight by BS gossip from Tiffany at Ponderosa.
we would have seen much more of charlie and Ben's fun relationship if it was a tie and ben had to vote for charlie. feel like we were robbed of Charlie and Ben's closeness because they needed to show Kenzie have this "great social game" and what made her so likable was how kind she was to Ben when he was struggling. But if we look at Kenzies social game it was basically "have Tiff be my ride or die - then let Tiff try to influence evryone at ponderosa why im so amazing" but im really dissapointed at how this season ended. a Charlie win off of a tie would have been amazing. A kenzie win without getting maria's vote would have been easier to swallow as well. I think the only world where we are so upset with the finally is a world where Maria decided to vote kenzie and charlie loses by the 1 vote swing... and thats the world we actually are living in.
Exactly. I am really upset at the edit after listening to all of Ben's interviews. Ben claims that Kenzie never did more for his panic atacks than Charlie and Liz and that he remained closest to Charlie all season. I am not sure if Ben himself realizes why the editors did this (we know it was to find a way to prop Kenzie up), but he did say the edit was not accurate and that he was dissapointed that his relationship with Charlie was only visible pre-merge & the vanished from the edit post merge. He detailed how Charlie & Liz both supported his panic attacks and general state of discomfort in the game. I guess all the editors could find that was good about Kenzie was her also helping Ben and Bhanu calling her a mermaid-dragon!
Ben has said in the event of a 4-4 tie he would have voted for Charlie as the tiebreaker. Charlie has a right to feel betrayed by the bitter back stabbing Maria. She cost him a million dollars.
In hindsight, had Charlie convinced Ben to take Kenzie to the final 3 and let him make fire against the inept delusional Liz, that might have been enough to not make Tevin change his mind and vote for Charlie. That was the one stumble that cost him a million (even with the bitter Maria voting with Q, Venus and Tiffany.
Tevin would've voted for Liz. He respects a game and he thinks emotionally too. Liz said she was exaggerating her wealth to make it seem like she wouldn't win so that people can take her to the end. That is a form of strategy that others may respect. And, she is the reason Tevin is out, so he would also consider how she did actually did outplay them.
@@kaatherineyoung Liz is lying now just to get attention. If she was intentionally exaggerating her wealth, it would have been in her confessionals. The entire jury has said they would never have voted for Liz. If you listen to everyone's various exit press, the jury actually told Liz that she would have received 0 votes. Liz is NOT the reason Tevin was voted out. She just wanted credit for a group move. Tevin was between Charlie & Kenzie even at F5.
So far, most of the jurors have said that fire made no difference. Charlie's final tribal answer that he would have taken Liz with him to F3 if he had won immunity was considered the only correct answer. Kenzie actually lost some jury respect when she said she would have done the same thing Ben did. The jury could not understand how anyone could have thought Liz had any chance of getting votes.
Marie is Grasping at straws trying to pick the reason that sounds best.
I love Kenzie and Charlie ...Please 50 fir Charlie...
Maria is pretending that she is the good guy. That was what she portrayed but she was planning to get him out when she hooked up with Q. She just thought she had out smarted him and then lashed out in anger and jealousy because she was bitter 😮😮😮😮😮
Compared to Charlie, Maria is the good guy. Maria was way more loyal and dependable . Charlie was double dealing throughout. He used maria
@@Jiorgiapeach Maria chill out...we know your handwriting
Maria was very bitter. You can tell by her body language when Jeff asked her why she voted Kenzie and not Charlie.
If Charlie brought Venus rather than Kenzie in final 3, then he wins. He was stuck under Maria's thumb for so long. The jury did not even recognize his gameplay at all. Maria claimed those moves.
Maria was arrogant, bitter and manipulative. Would have like to see Charlie win but in the end he will be remembered for his character and grace something money can’t buy!
It's too bad that Charlie chose Maria as his "ride or die." I found Maria's behavior in so many ways to be offensive, such as when she acted so wounded ("daggers") by Venus at tribal council on account of her simply showing the courage and integrity to call Maria out on her beyond appalling, transparent and fake behavior in picking Q for the food reward, claiming her decision was based upon whose body was "breaking down" the most. Then she proceeds to leave the two who are literally STARVING and picks Q, the guy who just ate but whom she previously stated she wanted to "use" for his vote, i.e., to serve her own purposes. In reality, she should be ashamed of her behavior. I'm really glad she will see for herself the episode that airs during which virtually EVERYONE in the cast views Maria's behavior the exact same way as Venus did! She relentlessly badmouthed Ben prior to tribal council in a desperate attempt to avoid being voted out and then tenderly touches his shoulder during that same tribal council - so two faced and fake. While Kenzie had a great social game, I feel Charlie had the best all-around strategic, physical and social game. I guess it was too quiet a game for people to take note of. It was obvious that Maria withheld her vote for Charlie at final tribal out of spite and jealousy. If I were him, I would not have anything to do with her after her betrayal of him. I do not consider her the wise pillar of morality she envisions herself as being.
Great player. I get that everyone has their own valid perspective, BUT Maria's decision seemed quite bizarre and 'unfair' based on the relationship durign the game.
Why? She apologized to him for voting for him. He didn’t come clean about his plots to get rid of her. He then sent her to ponderosa to hear about all of it from Q and Venus and Tiff. What did he think was going to happen? That she owed him a vote? She carried his ass and then he dogged her and refused to admit it. That’s his error not hers.
Not “friends” lol. No more uncle Charlie.
He dogged her pretty hard in confessionals . I wouldn’t bring him around my kids either. Just saying
Yes im so sure 48 year old Maria cares soooooo much about losing a 23 year old as a friend.
@@FellDownTheCornHole ya nobody wants a friend like Charlie ? Imagine throwing ur friend under the bus to the public like Charlie is doing right now. Dude is not a good person
And was never Maria’s friend . He used her and threw her out . She realized it and took control of her vote. Good for her
I think it makes sense for Tiff to vote for Kenzie just because they have that really close bond. It's hard to separate clear logic to strong emotions. Q is understanding, but sees the money as something that may be life changing, so I understand his decision. I think Tevin thinks like that too, but I thought he was more logical than emotional. I thought Tevin would've voted for Charlie. Hunter is clearly a logical person making his decision very clear. Soda is also logical. Liz said she would've voted for Ben just because Ben complimented her just showing that she is over her head. However, she ended up voting for Charlie because of something he said in the tribal council. Venus probably voted for Kenzie because she was the nicest to her and because Venus just talks about woman empowerment. As a woman, I think that's a stupid reason to vote someone to win in a game. Venus also most likely considered Kenzie's story too with what she would do with the money. Then, obviously, Maria's vote is the one that is most talked about because it makes 0% sense. Clearly shows that she is a salty bitch.
That being said, I think if Kenzie didn't talk about her upbringing, which I found to be completely manipulative and irrelevant to a game, I think Tevin would've voted for Charlie and then Ben said he would've voted for Charlie making Charlie win. So the honest swing vote was Tevin.
I wish Charlie showed a little fire at being so betrayed.
Sometimes viewers think that jury "got it wrong". I don't think this is the case here. I feel like it was very VERY close, closer than any of the seasons i watched. A great all-rounder with no downsides to his game whatsoever VS an outstanding social game with an above average standing in other facets. It's just a very slight difference born out of jury personality compositions.
Maria got a LOT of heat, but i understand how she, as a woman and mother, got swayed to prop up another woman starting a family. I disagree, but i don't fault her. Charlie is one of the most solid gamers of the new era, he did NOTHING wrong, it was simply not enough by a very tiny margin (judging by twitter, Ben would break tie towards Charlie).
Nah. Maria was very bitter. You can tell by her body language when Jeff asked her why she voted Kenzie and not Charlie.
@@woodykusaki9970 she has no reason to be bitter against Charlie. Even if social media proves that it actually was bitterness, i feel that womanly/motherly sympathy played a BIGGER role in that decison, than a feeling of betrayal, which was mutual (and didn't even happen to her).
@@GoodGoga what does womanly/motherly sympathy has to do with her vote? She's a mother of 3 boys so Charlie should have made more sense. You think she voted for Kenzie because she's a woman? That's even worse. Sexist entitled feminists giving preferential treatment to females solely because their women is not a good thing. lol
Wtf does being a Woman/Mother have anything to do with winning Survivor? The jury should be voting on who they thought the BEST player was. Not who shares the most immutable characteristics with you. Identity politics...
I agree with your post other than about Maria's vote. Maria even admitted to Charlie after the game that she was bitter because of some BS Tiffany had told her at Ponderosa. For the past year, Maria has said she wished she had voted for Charlie. Then when faced with having to tell all of her press she regretted her decision, she got scared and told Charlie a new story..about not being able to have regrets in life. I think Maria was just generally too jealous that Charlie got to the F3 instead of her and refused to reward him. Tiff may have pushed her over the edge, but her bitterness was already festering.
Charlie is the real champ of survivor 46(mind you I was rooting for Hunter more) even his view counts compared to Kenzie say it all. SMH This is why Survivor Australia beats US.
Marias explanations have been so inconsistent. A flip flop. One thing I thought Charlie needed to do was come for Maria at tribal council. I hated that Tiff boxed him in so much. Love her but that was nasty business. If Charlie was more upfront on how he used Maria, and what part he had to play in her downfall. Play to his social game and likeability. I think it was a better gamble to win the votes. He was playing to Maria, thinking she would vote for him, when really he should've risked her vote and shown the others that they did not play the same game. Bringing up the six was a bad mistake too. Still Charlie was so deserving so is Kenzie. Good run this season.
We only saw 20 minutes of a 2.5 hour final tribal. Charlie said he talked about all of his strategy. Tiffany was a total bitch to Charlie and Ben..that part really bothered me. Who made her the boss of the jury and of the final tribal? She tried to shut down anything negative about Kenzie and push an anti-Charlie narrative.
Charley will graduate as a Harvard Lawyer & make a lot of money. His his fame as being on Survivor will open doors for him. He has to forgive and move on. Kenzie really needed the money to change her life. Charley needs to think about the good things and all the friends that he made. ❤❤❤❤
Charlie is deeply in debt and Kenzie is a successful business owner. Kenzie has owned her own hair salon for 6 years. She did NOT need the money more.
Maria was bitter and sought vengeance. Not a nice look on Maria.
Charlie should have won!! Maria is not a true friend!
maria was not and continues not to be a friend. She is opportunistic... we saw it in game play, using Q to get ahead for instance
Ben is a friend
When you realize just how evil Maria is!
Nothing evil about it. He did her dirty. Kenzie didn’t do anyone dirty. Maria was all about loyalty and honesty. She wanted to show her kids that good wins. She wanted to show them that dirty game play is not rewarded if people decide that to be the case. No means no and Maria said hell no. Good for Maria.
You don’t know these people
I mean this is literally the hunger games. ONly one person can win.
This coddling of Charlie is very bizarre. There is only one winner. Most players get voted out by people they trust. This scenario is no different. His entitlement to anyone's vote is jarring, and if your chance at winning is a tie and a revote, then really your win equity isn't very strong. It's not a dig at his game; many great players don't win or even make it to the top three. Unfortunately the perception by the jurors that he was Maria's puppet. While its not true, he didnt do enough in the game and tribal counsel to show wasn't. In not taking credit and hiding his moves, it untimely hurt him. Coupled with passive response during tribal counsel.
BIG difference between getting voted out by your #1 and not getting the final vote from your #1. She knew full well he played the better game. That's why she was gunning for him and not Kenzie! I think it's disgusting that they can ask questions about "what you'll do with the money". They are a jury, there to decide who WON the game. If it's just about who needs the money the most you could just figure that out on day 1 and not even have a show. I'm not watching anymore.
@badbgp She was gunning for him because her game was similar to his not Kenzie's. She stands out a lot more sitting next to Kenzi. But irrespective of that, no vote is guaranteed, whether they are your number one or not. To assume so is a bit entitled.
@@ameenasama8018 It was not assumed. Maria told him 24 hours earlier that she was voting for him & would be advocating for him. He held her hand as she was voted out. Charlie did not just assume anything.
By your warped reasoning, Kenzie played an even worse game. She never even thought of targeting her biggest jury threat and she would have naturally assumed Maria was a Charie vote. So, by your own words, Kenzie played a losing game by choosing a narrow path where she would at best get a tie that would be broken against her.
@@debbiemccune1952 Charlie assumed that her opinion couldn't change. Also, are we just going based off what Charlie said that Maria said or did we hear Maria say this as well?
Charlie played a great game, but he got outplayed in the end
LOL outplayed by who? Maria’s bitterness? Tiffany’s influencing at Ponderosa? Q voting for the person that needed the money more instead of who played the better game? Half the jury was crap and came into it with their own personal agendas and biases.
@@ryanjohansson8950 I personally think he outplayed himself. He played one of the best strategic games but Kenzie had better jury management. Like Charlie said, the jury always gets it right
if anything, he misplayed the end game, the Venus vote truly sunk his game, If Venus stays and Kenzie goes that vote Charlie beats everyone left outside of Maria
No chance of Venus voting for a man either
@@badbgpYeah, definitely red flags from her when she started trying to make it a women vs men thing and specifically target men.