9:15 Embla only prevents her turn being ended by Duo Lyon's "End of turn" penalty, which is different from Duo Seidr's. Duo Seidr works differently: She ends your turn and then inflicts Time's Grip, but she only does this if you don't have Time's Grip already. Since Embla removes Time's Grip every turn, she is always open to have her turn ended by Duo Seidr every turn. I use Duo Seidr in a Player Phase team in AR-O, and in Light season, I always leave Embla as the last foe, just to freeze her for multiple turns until I get the pots.
Heidr should definitely be a 9.5, such a sleeper unit. Also hi! I remember you being my friend in FEH waaaaay back in the day in 2017 and early 2018 when I made my first account but I quit then for multiple years, until I came back in early 2022 with a new account and have been with the game since. Glad to see you are faring well!
I miss the days when people really dedicated themselves to making a genuine tier list. It's sad that all we have left is this one which is half baked IMO.
Its too tough to do one with every unit now. There's just too many. Generally speaking, only about 50~ish units are relevant for the competitive modes anyway
I would love to see a tier list of relevant meta units! Some fehtuber (or heck a collab of FEHtubers) should do that for a video. 😉 I know y'all have done some in the past but an up to date one would be 🔥!
Oh for sure. I'm just saying it seems odd to single her out at 9.9 over all the other really good dancers. I'd say there's a group of about 5~ dancers right now including her that are all relatively equal
Give them props for being a good resource for the new. Help them by putting lists up. Though stop the just give them this and they will be great. Unless “this” skill is something the average player can pick up at any time.
There's WAY too many units in the game at this point to seriously do a tier list with everyone in it. I usually just condense it into a top 5 or a top 10
Ya'll have to realize hey don't very rarely update these tier lists, especially for the lower levels. That means old units like Hapi and Zeke are still in 9.0 along with new ones like Male Young Robin and Framme, which is objectively not true. Halloween Corrin isn't going to fall for a while, and Legendary Corrin is almost certainly not rising.
Fallen Julia should be 9.5 in my biased opinion. With ploy, she is doing so many Dubuffs on the foe, and can do so safely. Yes I’m biased, but man is she so good to use.
ah yes brave Marth and his no quarter vantage loop / Diamant and Laguz friend are definitely in the same category as malice and her...huh...stats on dragonflowers, makes sense I think they just don't use the lower rankings enough, no way Shinon and lego corrin are in the same category unless you're snorting refine stones
Like the use of mh rise music. Also I'll be both happy and sad if brave tiki gets a good refine. Happy cuz it's good but sad since i use her even now and then suddenly people will care when they didn't before.
Us having to wait until the very end is crazy for Duo Micaiah lmao. No way they value Yune over her. Also as a person who runs HarmoTana religiously in AR O, i would say her utility still makes her stand up in the ratings. Her damage potential went down though against modern tanks. Like i mainly use her for: Canto Support, Guidance 4, Disarm trap, and her being able to refresh Peony or Plumeria duirng their seasons. My Askr is a GaleForce Askr, so her giving him an extra turn is clutch. Plus SS has a good list of offensive Cav Nukes/GaleForcers.
Summer F. Shez really doesn't even need skills inherited to be good. An unmerged neutral Shez with her base kit and Blade session seal can one round Emblem Ike with no support, and this is against a +10 Ike. With skill investment and merges she can basically kill anything in the game.
My issue is seriously "I would bump this unit up to 9.5." "This unit should be in 9.5." "Nah, this unit is 9.5." "Oh! Woahhh no, this unit is 9.5." "Just slap Laguz Friend on this unit, they are 9.5." Unfortunately 9.5 kinda lost its meaning.. lmao Also, as much as I like Young Eliwood, I think his combat isn't great. But I guess supporting the dumb units helps him.
@@tacho9427 Its nice to see the tierlists, but I totally get why everyone quit those when they realized units can perform under very specific circumstances and theres just too many flavours to choose from.
Winter Dimitri might be food for all those melt units? I don't think so since melt damage doesn't kill, you need to attack to kill him but if he vantages you it's the end for the "melt attacker". He is one of the few great counters to the "melt meta" IMO he is like Ninja Camilla (but way better. She doesn't get acces to a pre-charged dmg reduction piercing special every time you engage into combat like him for example) and doesn't really care for melting or any other offensive threat at the moment. He is way better than any other Dimitri, and the "upgraded" B!Dimitri with Laguz Friend is still behind him. It's a similar case for W! Claude, (the best Claude atm) people use to undervalue these green units for some reason I always fail to comprehend 😅😅
@@tacho9427 True. For some reason I forgot D! Lyon could do that too😅(that's why he's cracked) Indeed, Firesweep is basically his main counter (and up till this point he doesn't have access to null-c since he is a cavalry class, perhaps it will change in the future who knows...) but all things considered is a pretty low weakness if you ask me (there are currently very few impactful/cracked units with null-c right now such as E!Ike, and that's why he's at the top atm). Since Dimitri also heals after combat thanks to his weapon (and is kinda easy to give him extra healing after combat with allies or mystic boost as an S skill) as I was previously saying "melt" per se is not a "weakness" for him in particular since he is "vantage" unit. "Vantage meta" is probably one of the best counters to the suffocating "melt meta". However, as u well said, Vantage meta is right now weak to Firesweep if they don't have access to a null-c effect Few impactful units like E! Ike has null-counter nowadays this
Yeah, I'm questioning why they have Legendary Corrin lower than Halloween Corrin. Yeah back then Halloween was better then Legendary but now she has her refine and Negating Fang II. How is Halloween Corrin still considered better? W Monster Hunter Rise music.
Irs so funny to decide on a 1-10 scale but then go 9.9 and 9.5 like... what is the point of the scale then guys??? Same as people being like a-e and then add s and ss and sss
I never used him, but I never took him lightly whenever I faced him. Remember I had to unfortunate luck of running into one with the skill set up that makes it he has the miracle effect up at all times.
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The real number one unit in feh. Laguz friend
Basically lmao
9:15 Embla only prevents her turn being ended by Duo Lyon's "End of turn" penalty, which is different from Duo Seidr's. Duo Seidr works differently: She ends your turn and then inflicts Time's Grip, but she only does this if you don't have Time's Grip already. Since Embla removes Time's Grip every turn, she is always open to have her turn ended by Duo Seidr every turn.
I use Duo Seidr in a Player Phase team in AR-O, and in Light season, I always leave Embla as the last foe, just to freeze her for multiple turns until I get the pots.
Game8 will never be Gamepress
I agree.
They would never do something as goofy as make Laslow (a 2017 unit) Tier One.
Long live tier 1 Laslow 👑
10:30 I heard "You can give her Crocs", and I was like "a ninja in crocs?"
Ohhhh a podcast for the road. Thanks Tacho, you're such a homie!
"A pimp named 'Slickback'" I understood that reference.
Heidr should definitely be a 9.5, such a sleeper unit. Also hi! I remember you being my friend in FEH waaaaay back in the day in 2017 and early 2018 when I made my first account but I quit then for multiple years, until I came back in early 2022 with a new account and have been with the game since. Glad to see you are faring well!
I miss the days when people really dedicated themselves to making a genuine tier list. It's sad that all we have left is this one which is half baked IMO.
Its too tough to do one with every unit now. There's just too many. Generally speaking, only about 50~ish units are relevant for the competitive modes anyway
I would love to see a tier list of relevant meta units! Some fehtuber (or heck a collab of FEHtubers) should do that for a video. 😉
I know y'all have done some in the past but an up to date one would be 🔥!
I do think L!Ninian is probably still a top tier unit, specifically for Arena
Oh for sure. I'm just saying it seems odd to single her out at 9.9 over all the other really good dancers. I'd say there's a group of about 5~ dancers right now including her that are all relatively equal
Give them props for being a good resource for the new. Help them by putting lists up. Though stop the just give them this and they will be great. Unless “this” skill is something the average player can pick up at any time.
There's WAY too many units in the game at this point to seriously do a tier list with everyone in it.
I usually just condense it into a top 5 or a top 10
Game8 is always so wack lmfao
Ya'll have to realize hey don't very rarely update these tier lists, especially for the lower levels. That means old units like Hapi and Zeke are still in 9.0 along with new ones like Male Young Robin and Framme, which is objectively not true. Halloween Corrin isn't going to fall for a while, and Legendary Corrin is almost certainly not rising.
Me and my smoothie are ready to watch 🙃
Dude, brave Tiki remix let’s go! I have mine at +10 the ceada attended skill, Ike ring and Luguz friend, it’s nasty.
Fallen Julia should be 9.5 in my biased opinion. With ploy, she is doing so many Dubuffs on the foe, and can do so safely. Yes I’m biased, but man is she so good to use.
I agree 100%
ah yes brave Marth and his no quarter vantage loop / Diamant and Laguz friend are definitely in the same category as malice and her...huh...stats on dragonflowers, makes sense
I think they just don't use the lower rankings enough, no way Shinon and lego corrin are in the same category unless you're snorting refine stones
I like men
Me too they are so cute
nice
Timerra is 9.9 in my heart
tbh if only Timerra had more HP I would be willing to use her more.
Like the use of mh rise music. Also I'll be both happy and sad if brave tiki gets a good refine. Happy cuz it's good but sad since i use her even now and then suddenly people will care when they didn't before.
Us having to wait until the very end is crazy for Duo Micaiah lmao. No way they value Yune over her.
Also as a person who runs HarmoTana religiously in AR O, i would say her utility still makes her stand up in the ratings. Her damage potential went down though against modern tanks. Like i mainly use her for:
Canto Support, Guidance 4, Disarm trap, and her being able to refresh Peony or Plumeria duirng their seasons. My Askr is a GaleForce Askr, so her giving him an extra turn is clutch. Plus SS has a good list of offensive Cav Nukes/GaleForcers.
TACHO NACHO SHOW!
_I came here early, so just commenting for the algorithm._
Summer F. Shez really doesn't even need skills inherited to be good. An unmerged neutral Shez with her base kit and Blade session seal can one round Emblem Ike with no support, and this is against a +10 Ike. With skill investment and merges she can basically kill anything in the game.
My issue is seriously "I would bump this unit up to 9.5."
"This unit should be in 9.5."
"Nah, this unit is 9.5."
"Oh! Woahhh no, this unit is 9.5."
"Just slap Laguz Friend on this unit, they are 9.5."
Unfortunately 9.5 kinda lost its meaning.. lmao
Also, as much as I like Young Eliwood, I think his combat isn't great. But I guess supporting the dumb units helps him.
With 1000+ units, yeah there are going to be a lot of stuff in the same tier.
I mean even 9.9 should realistically have like 15 units
@@tacho9427 Its nice to see the tierlists, but I totally get why everyone quit those when they realized units can perform under very specific circumstances and theres just too many flavours to choose from.
Summer fjorm absolutely can use laguz friend, especially at high merges. Res stacking in ARO is easy and I've had her up over 85 in combat res before.
I literally looked at their tier list yesterday and every character was either a 9 or 9.5. Their tier list is terrible.
Winter Dimitri might be food for all those melt units? I don't think so since melt damage doesn't kill, you need to attack to kill him but if he vantages you it's the end for the "melt attacker". He is one of the few great counters to the "melt meta"
IMO he is like Ninja Camilla (but way better. She doesn't get acces to a pre-charged dmg reduction piercing special every time you engage into combat like him for example) and doesn't really care for melting or any other offensive threat at the moment. He is way better than any other Dimitri, and the "upgraded" B!Dimitri with Laguz Friend is still behind him. It's a similar case for W! Claude, (the best Claude atm) people use to undervalue these green units for some reason I always fail to comprehend 😅😅
Vantage wont save him from Firesweep
@@tacho9427 True. For some reason I forgot D! Lyon could do that too😅(that's why he's cracked)
Indeed, Firesweep is basically his main counter (and up till this point he doesn't have access to null-c since he is a cavalry class, perhaps it will change in the future who knows...) but all things considered is a pretty low weakness if you ask me (there are currently very few impactful/cracked units with null-c right now such as E!Ike, and that's why he's at the top atm). Since Dimitri also heals after combat thanks to his weapon (and is kinda easy to give him extra healing after combat with allies or mystic boost as an S skill) as I was previously saying "melt" per se is not a "weakness" for him in particular since he is "vantage" unit. "Vantage meta" is probably one of the best counters to the suffocating "melt meta". However, as u well said, Vantage meta is right now weak to Firesweep if they don't have access to a null-c effect
Few impactful units like E! Ike has null-counter nowadays this
Yeah, I'm questioning why they have Legendary Corrin lower than Halloween Corrin. Yeah back then Halloween was better then Legendary but now she has her refine and Negating Fang II. How is Halloween Corrin still considered better?
W Monster Hunter Rise music.
mozu's ability to cuck my auto-battles makes her a 0.1 to me
I recognized that MH Rise music from anywhere
Why are you dumping on Ratatoskr!!! I love her!! And right before was King, King King Freyr, bruh she smacks him around
Yeah I agree this tier list is a little wonky. Rearmed Lif ought to be at the very top.
Lol. No
Scoring 195 on the hunk scale
35:22 SUMMER SHA🅱️IR 🗣🔥‼️
ryoma at 9 lol
Irs so funny to decide on a 1-10 scale but then go 9.9 and 9.5 like... what is the point of the scale then guys??? Same as people being like a-e and then add s and ss and sss
Hey it's my boi Tacho
I gave up a long time ago.
people always say brave seliph is still good yet no one is ever using him and even when he was knew was he already kinda mid from my experience.
I never used him, but I never took him lightly whenever I faced him. Remember I had to unfortunate luck of running into one with the skill set up that makes it he has the miracle effect up at all times.
I see him pretty frequently still in SD, he's also still a fantastic AR-O Galeforcer
Seliph along with Chrom have both been meta units since their release, both are still used on cav teams in Summoner duels